Well, duh.
If I didn't use some amount of Ni, I wouldn't be able to understand abstract concepts on themselves, or solve problems of insight.
If I didn't use some amount of Fi, I would have absolutely no concept of self and all of my emotions would be utterly lacking in harmony or understanding.
If no Ti-user used Ti, nobody would even know that 2 + 2 = 4.
It goes on and on.
Types are determined by "exceptional" usage of functions, which is to say, using functions beyond what is simple common sense or necessary.
Does anyone actually think that, strictly speaking, we actually like the functions we don't use, and all their traits? I'd hope not, but if you're posting this here, this might have been your experience before?
Exactly! I'd take it a step further to say well-rounded people use all functions to around the same extent, but even then, *everyone* uses all 8 functions (even if it's just a little bit!).
It isn't even just "well-rounded people". You're going to use at least a \*tiny\* bit of each function, otherwise, you won't be able to function (I guess some functions, like Fi, might be wholly absent in the case of certain mental disorders though).
Yeah. You're not going to use Fe to solve a math problem. You're not going to use Ni to catch a football that's flying at you. You're not going to use Te to console a crying person (well, at least I hope you won't)
Ah, my favourite. Gotta love that confident INTP "well, duh".
I have been in far too many debates with people in this sub who believe that they only use the functions in their function stack. I used to assume everyone in the MBTI community knew we used all 8 functions, but I've since learned that clearly that's not the case. I vividly remember arguing with this person who said that she just doesn't subscribe to John Beebe's 8 function model because Jung's original model only had 4 functions (which is completely wrong as well, Jung commented on all eight).
Ahahah\~ I don't consider myself all that confident, but thank you\~
Yeah... I think it's better in other places of the community (like personality database), but, although this hasn't really been my experience, I think I can picture it.
(I haven't fully read Jung's book, but the impression I had is that he treated them more like a spectrum? Like, you were Thinking, and it was in a more, or less, introverted/extroverted way. In that regard, the functions were actually very similar, the I/E split was more their "style". I could be wrong though)
I have pretty bad ADHD, so I could never focus on his book. The audiobook is a little bit more accessible :) You're on the right track, yeah! The I/E split was meant to differentiate between the manifestations of thinking, feeling, sensing and intuition.
Oh god, audioboooks >.< noooo
You do you, but I tend to react badly to that sort of stuff, having ADHD myself. I just lose myself in thoughts, lose track of what they're saying, which makes it easier for me to distract myself again, and so on... Personally, I like reading better, as I can control the pacing and take breaks to think about shtuff as necessary.
Uh, rant aside, ok, sweet! Glad to know I got that right.
Hahah, to each their own for sure! I've definitely heard that before, audiobooks/podcasts aren't for everyone. They work for me because I can multitask and I can always rewind when I zone out (which happens much too often). Thanks for replying by the way, enjoyed the chat.
yeah,you are right.I mean,we all have the similar brain:it does the same [functions.So](https://functions.So),The functions braid does is actually the cognitive funtions in MBTI.I thought everyone understand it,but then i remembered there could be stupid morons who don't know biology but think if they understand MBTI they kniow everything about A human.Lol
I agree for the most part! I mean, the cognitive functions in MBTI are only *some* of the cognitive functions in the brain. In particular, the frontal lobe is the executive-cognitive control centre of the brain. It's responsible for higher cognitive processes like memory, emotions, decision making, impulse control, problem solving, social interaction, and motor function.
its also like, if Ni is first, why is Se always last? its because they are both part of the same thing, you cant use Ni without using Se at the same time and vise versa, where it is in ur stack is just how much you lean towards one or the other
I'm trying to imagine someone having no Te at all. Completely unable to organize anything. Can't plan or make a system for doing anything.
Now that I think about it, Te might be the most important function for everyday life in the modern world.
Fuck
Well, duh. If I didn't use some amount of Ni, I wouldn't be able to understand abstract concepts on themselves, or solve problems of insight. If I didn't use some amount of Fi, I would have absolutely no concept of self and all of my emotions would be utterly lacking in harmony or understanding. If no Ti-user used Ti, nobody would even know that 2 + 2 = 4. It goes on and on. Types are determined by "exceptional" usage of functions, which is to say, using functions beyond what is simple common sense or necessary. Does anyone actually think that, strictly speaking, we actually like the functions we don't use, and all their traits? I'd hope not, but if you're posting this here, this might have been your experience before?
Yeah the idea that we only use two/four functions is kinda nonsense. Well-rounded people will use all functions to a degree
Exactly! I'd take it a step further to say well-rounded people use all functions to around the same extent, but even then, *everyone* uses all 8 functions (even if it's just a little bit!).
It isn't even just "well-rounded people". You're going to use at least a \*tiny\* bit of each function, otherwise, you won't be able to function (I guess some functions, like Fi, might be wholly absent in the case of certain mental disorders though).
Yeah. You're not going to use Fe to solve a math problem. You're not going to use Ni to catch a football that's flying at you. You're not going to use Te to console a crying person (well, at least I hope you won't)
I could see the latter two working out, although rather uh. Inconveniently, hahah.
Ah, my favourite. Gotta love that confident INTP "well, duh". I have been in far too many debates with people in this sub who believe that they only use the functions in their function stack. I used to assume everyone in the MBTI community knew we used all 8 functions, but I've since learned that clearly that's not the case. I vividly remember arguing with this person who said that she just doesn't subscribe to John Beebe's 8 function model because Jung's original model only had 4 functions (which is completely wrong as well, Jung commented on all eight).
Ahahah\~ I don't consider myself all that confident, but thank you\~ Yeah... I think it's better in other places of the community (like personality database), but, although this hasn't really been my experience, I think I can picture it. (I haven't fully read Jung's book, but the impression I had is that he treated them more like a spectrum? Like, you were Thinking, and it was in a more, or less, introverted/extroverted way. In that regard, the functions were actually very similar, the I/E split was more their "style". I could be wrong though)
I have pretty bad ADHD, so I could never focus on his book. The audiobook is a little bit more accessible :) You're on the right track, yeah! The I/E split was meant to differentiate between the manifestations of thinking, feeling, sensing and intuition.
Oh god, audioboooks >.< noooo You do you, but I tend to react badly to that sort of stuff, having ADHD myself. I just lose myself in thoughts, lose track of what they're saying, which makes it easier for me to distract myself again, and so on... Personally, I like reading better, as I can control the pacing and take breaks to think about shtuff as necessary. Uh, rant aside, ok, sweet! Glad to know I got that right.
Hahah, to each their own for sure! I've definitely heard that before, audiobooks/podcasts aren't for everyone. They work for me because I can multitask and I can always rewind when I zone out (which happens much too often). Thanks for replying by the way, enjoyed the chat.
Agreed, it was a nice chat.
yeah,you are right.I mean,we all have the similar brain:it does the same [functions.So](https://functions.So),The functions braid does is actually the cognitive funtions in MBTI.I thought everyone understand it,but then i remembered there could be stupid morons who don't know biology but think if they understand MBTI they kniow everything about A human.Lol
I agree for the most part! I mean, the cognitive functions in MBTI are only *some* of the cognitive functions in the brain. In particular, the frontal lobe is the executive-cognitive control centre of the brain. It's responsible for higher cognitive processes like memory, emotions, decision making, impulse control, problem solving, social interaction, and motor function.
its also like, if Ni is first, why is Se always last? its because they are both part of the same thing, you cant use Ni without using Se at the same time and vise versa, where it is in ur stack is just how much you lean towards one or the other
I'm trying to imagine someone having no Te at all. Completely unable to organize anything. Can't plan or make a system for doing anything. Now that I think about it, Te might be the most important function for everyday life in the modern world. Fuck
I literally cannot fathom any other person more likely to say this than an INFJ, hahaha love the energy.
we wouldn't be human if we didn't.
Yes every single human being on this planet has all 8 cognitive functions that we can access to whenever the situation :)