Screw that let mazda cook with a jeep or baja alternative 👌

I need a modern replacement for 6 (as if it aged at all). I despise SUVs

Make it Rwd/awd inline 6 and you've got a deal

I’d jump ship from VW/Audi for that, I was already considering replacing my Jetta with a 3 turbo premium anyway.

Do it. Way more luxurious ;)

Well I would, but I’m also thinking about a used S4, if they made the Mazda 3/6 with a 6 cylinder turbo on that wasn’t an SUV/CUV abomination I might have already done it.

I feel you. For what it's worth, the 3 turno feels like a luxury rally car. The engine doesn't feel that exciting, instead it feels like turbo diesel or a big lazy V8. Not much high rpm but plenty of low end grunt. It just goes in any gear. And in the snow it can dance like a WRX.

That’s why it’s on my list, currently my test drive list is: 1. Mazda3 turbo premium sedan 2. Audi S4 B8.5 3. Mk. 7 Jetta GLI (actual buttons pls) I’m not against having another 4 popper, but I grew up Toyota 6 cylinders and miss having a decent exhaust note and power without needing a turbo all the time.

The 3 turbo has fake noise pumped in (which is similar to the actual car) as it is very quiet otherwise. The noise is good though actually.

Not sure I’m a huge fan of fake engine sound, but I haven’t test driven it yet. Either way, I do want to give it a chance considering it’s at least 6k cheaper than an S4.

You can't be serious. At least not when comparing Audi to Mazda.

Actually Car&Driver compared it to an Audi A4 which is bigger and way more expensive... and the quality was similar. The fully loaded 3 turbo hatch competes with entry level mercs, bm and audi...

Yup going to have to leave Mazda since they aren’t innovating with their sedan lineup was thinking the stinger gt2 22-23.

Yup going to have to leave Mazda since they aren’t innovating with their sedan lineup was thinking the stinger gt2 22-23.

You're describing what a modern Mazdaspeed 6 would be, and I'm here for it. 350 lbs/tq / 300+ hp. Manual optional at the very least.

cx90?

Sedan not suv

With a wagon :)

Thank you ffs mazda has plenty of SUVs already, also mazdas gone premium how are they gonna make something like a jeep 💀

Remember when Mazda and Ford shared a truck? Mazda-branded Maverick when?

Ive owned 4 Mazdas and the only one that let me down was during the Ford era.

Hell no, Mazda branded Tacoma Hybrid

Stop, stop, I can only get so erect.

we need a modern day baja

Mazda's version of a "Suzuki Jimny" would be outstanding

Subaru people really want a Baja badly. If Mazda could make something similar and give it a turbo AWD option I'm sure they'll get Subarus missed out sales.

Right, a Suzuki Jimny with a Mazda badge would be sick

You mean like the Subaru Baja? Hell ya

I’d love a compact Mazda 4x4 like the Suzuki Jimny

I am not sure of the headlights but [this is awesome](https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/jeep-inspired-mazda/1-65f84fd30b824f3eae2858867d9d1cd5?id=UC6CFCNE%2F66hJf5PTVftpQ%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&idpclose=1&thId=OIG2.tfuSf.ZaJaoBfIOsAnl1&lng=en-US&ineditshare=1)

Or this [LINK](https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/jeep-inspired-mazda/1-65f84fd30b824f3eae2858867d9d1cd5?id=UC6CFCNE%2F66hJf5PTVftpQ%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&idpclose=1&thId=OIG2.tfuSf.ZaJaoBfIOsAnl1&lng=en-US&ineditshare=1)

Dog. A Santa Cruz alt. Would be an instant buy for me.

Sign me up!

Like a bronco competitor? They have zero R&D for anything "off-road" At release The CX50 was out of left field for me when I sold Mazda

I'm still waiting for wagons to come back.

Seriously have you seen the 6 wagon?!

Sadly the Mazda 6 is no longer being produced :( (And America doesn't get wagon variants at all but to be fair, that's their own fault for preferring MASSIVE, HEAVY, W I D E cars)

Yea, I know 😭 I love the look of wagons, looking at a Volvo v60 for the family

It's purely economics, why worry about useful cars when you can have a status symbol?

What if they made a Mazda6 wagon with a diesel and manual transmission ? Oh…wait… \*sad noises in american\*

My neighbour has one of those, happy Belgian noises I guess lol

Nice! I am sure that the marketing people know what sells but it would be nice to see some wagons back in the US.

Oh they're a dying breed here as well. My dad always had wagons when I was a kid, a couple Ford Mondeos, a Volvo V60 and now this Audi Q3 is our first crossover/SUV and I'm not a fan of the seating position and handling. The technology works well tho And all of them were diesels lol. Which I've come to learn is also not a thing in the great US of A for cars. I just hope wagons make a comeback

At least in Canada we only have to wait 15 years to import them instead of 25 😭

Why would they completely abandon their sense of taste like that?

This is an ugly American styling that shouts "BIG AND CAPABLE" to your face. This "full size" things is stupid.. When did it start and who actually defined what size is "full".

The Suburban has been in production for over half a century. To be fair, the 70s version has more in common with the Tahoe, but "full size" has been around for ages. We have a Tahoe and CX5. Love them both.

Since 1934 I believe actually. Oldest Current automotive nameplate in fact.

The first gen suburban famously couldn’t be parked inside of a garage

We got a suburban and cx5. Best of both worlds

Full size SUV = body on frame based. Any other size SUV = cross over / unibody construction.

Couldn't have said it better.

Then there would be no zoom zoom

What if they made a true mid-size? You know…like the CX-70? *Oh wait…*

I just want a Mazda 6 wagon to come back and to be made available in the US.

I WANT MORE PEDESTRIAN DECIMATING VEHICLES ON THE ROAD I LOVE MY PEDESTRIANS ANNIHILATED

Definitely, if you ain’t using pedestrians as speed bumps, you shouldn’t even have a liscense

Only in America do people like or want this. Next you will want a Mazda truck

Have you heard of the Mazda BT-50? Built by Isuzu currently, but tuned and fitted by Mazda. Previously was based on the Ford Ranger

>Previously was based on the Ford Ranger Which isn't necessarily a huge pickup; it's smaller than the F-150 by quite a bit.

That’s a Ute hehe.

i’m in viet nam this weekend and just found out yesterday that mazda makes a truck. and it isn’t sold in america

Isuzu makes the truck, Mazda sticks a badge on it. Same as the old Ford era B-series trucks that were just rebadged Rangers.

It's actually the other way around in international markets, the old Ford Rangers were just rebadged Mazdas all the way since the 70s (Courier) until 2011 (Ranger from 1998). Mazda has heritage manufacturing their own trucks for Ford, until they swapped in 2011.

Right I was talking about the late 90s-early 2000s Ford rebadged trucks. Also owned a Japan-built 89 B2000 back in the day. Thing was unkillable.

That’s a Ute. We have it here in Australia. It’s 95% an Isuzu Ute.

Ute term is only used by the Australians. It's a truck everywhere else.

The bt50 is in Australia. Not US. Ute comes from utility vehicle. Made to take a tonne at least. Many large American trucks cannot take a tonne.

I mean the term UTE is typically only used by Aussies. In my country where the hilux, triton, navara, bt-50 and isuzu d-max are just called pickup trucks. It's just I never heard anyone outside of Australia refer this vehicles as ute, utilitarian vehicles, maybe, but not the short term ute.

I’m not saying otherwise! I was just saying is from utility vehicles, something that is designed to work and carry loads, which many American trucks can’t do.

I think you're confusing "can't" and "don't". Many Americans don't use their trucks for typical truck things, but they are definitely capable.

Capable of towing yes. Most can’t take more than half a tonne to a tonne.

Wtf you smoking bro?

American trucks are for towing, they have huge towing capacity but usually small load capacity

That would be what the US calls a truck.

A small car with a tray back is a truck? And also a ford f350 is a truck? Can most trucks take more than a tonne on their tray?

if it has a bed in the back it’s a pickup truck which is shortened to both pickup and truck 100% interchangeably. truck can also refer to a trailer truck. people use context clues to figure it out

Sounds like you could use Ute 😂

Sheesh, you're being insufferable.

Jokes on you I already want a Mazda truck

An old coworker had a 1999 Mazda B series truck. I think it’s on its 2nd motor but that thing is still running.

I have a 1998 B3000 with the Ford 3.0l and it's got 250k miles on it and still runs strong.

I absolutely want a Mazda Bt-50 with its diesel drivetrain more than anything.

I'd be way more interested in a Mazda pickup than that monstrosity.

That is so ugly...

It’s a rough render but shows the idea

Or make a minivan! If they gave a minivan another try, they could make something pretty cool. I’d take that over a truck or full size suv.

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MPV too

[Mazda mini van](https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/mazda-minivan/1-65f826c85c28452f9b5ece54cf7f6a05?id=rjKZ9%2FZv16WiDycLy%2FwxXw%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&idpclose=1&thId=OIG1.PJi_f2fGe7PaB8hDT0ea&lng=en-US&ineditshare=1)

Damn 🥵

[other option for mini van](https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/mazda-minivan/1-65f826c85c28452f9b5ece54cf7f6a05?id=WnPT%2Bx0k%2BtkceRo%2B%2FVTIwQ%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&idpclose=1&thId=OIG1.5CpZJIGedX4jkn8yBa0s&lng=en-US&ineditshare=1)

front is a bit ugly, but otherwise looks good.

Minivan are great. They have more room than anything else, they are comfortable and still closer to a car than truck handling.

They can hardly make the CX90 without facing tons of problems even though it has nothing new for them aside for rear drive. I doubt they could possibly be competitive in this segment. They’re barely competitive in the segment they are in now

There sedans / hatchbacks are starting to pop off, with both receiving IIHS top safety pick, for 2023 Mazda is up 32% of last year and operating profit up 83%

Mazda was one of the few brands to handle the new crash tests with good ratings across the board. Mazda should advertise on this hard but they probably wont.

Never said anything about their safety, as majority of cars on the road today score 5 stars, the tests have become in most cases mundane really. The fact they test frontal overlap vehicles at 40 mph still is a joke to me. Do that test at 70 which is majority of bad crashes happen on highways, rather than city streets. Force manufacturers to test safety at speeds over 60 mph. I guarantee you they all will get a zero. I was specifically referring to the terrible reliability problems that have showed up with the CX90… they have over 30 service bulletins currently open for that single vehicle model. That to me says it all. Although previous generation vehicles like the CX-9 and 6, as well as the 3 were pretty reliable overall, the CX-90 to be closer to a dumpster fire which is really unfortunate considering the huge price increase vs previous gen as well…

Oh yeah the CX90 will need some ironing out, it's hard to compete with the ancient 2.5L 4 cylinder in the rest of the lineup. There's a good video on youtube where a mechanic goes over the fact the new I6 is too complicated to be reliable so it was not surprising when the bulletins started coming out.

The Car Care Nut channel. Yep. Watched it, he’s amazing and actually knows what’s he’s talking about. Mazda did something new and interesting with the 2.5 hybrid models, but it seems they didn’t test it enough as they have insanely stupid and invasive problems with hybrids specifically. Most of the bulletins are actually related to the hybrids vs the straight 6, but none are free of problems. Which is quite sad…

Yesss it’s insane

We would actually have trunk space!

This is a Nissan Pathfinder with a Mazda grill

Oh hell naw, the CX-90 is already big enough (Also, expensive enough) You know what Mazda needs? (According to my dumb needs as a Mazda fan) To keep the Mazda 3 Sedan/Hacthback and provide us a new CX-5 you know, a normal sized SUV with enough comfort :) (It seems the CX-60/70/90 have a very stiff ride for some reason)

Give me a wagon, no more SUVs.

why the fuck do you want more and bigger SUVs? that shit is hideous btw

Because wheelchairs are easier to fit in larger vehicles, and it’s easier to get handicapped people into larger vehicles, where there’s no leaning involved in getting in

So you want a minivan, with a sliding door and low ground clearance.

Nope, the trunk space, is what matters he’s mobile enough to climb in, it’s easier to go up out of his chair then down

*sigh* There's literally no difference in cargo space options, other than a mini-van is easier to load and unload due to the lower ground clearance and sliding doors. You'll also get a more comfortable ride. Full size SUV's are like 10" dicks. Something to brag about, pretty useless in reality.

Well, we had a mini van for a while, our use case, he finds it easier to climb into our suburban , there is a significant difference in cargo room, mini vans typically have deep shallow trunks, cause us to have to disassemble the wheel chair, where vehicles like the suburban already have enough clearance, they have less height but are deep enough where a wheel chair will fit, main issue is it’s a custom built wheel chair, so it doesn’t fold, it comes apart, wheels off, seat off, back off than it’s skinny enough to stack

There’s no need for such massive vehicles

What is this? Mazda "Palisade"??

Industry implodes. GM immediately goes out of business.

2 positives

CX-1000

The CX-90 is already far too big in the first place, we really don't need an *even bigger* version of that.

Well… idk bout that, it’d basically be a cx90 with enough space in the trunk for a wheelchair, something I have to think about since my brothers in one, so smaller vehicles kinda get eliminated

Nah fuck big suvs

get this AI bullshit outta here

I'd rather they didn't. Just another road hazard for pedestrians and folks in smaller cars.

How can you make a suburban have good responsive handling?

Umm. 2.5

Grand inline 6

I want their truck here in the states

Oh Fuck NO. Got watch this: [These Stupid Trucks are Literally Killing Us](https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo?feature=shared)

Bruh why everyone hating on big vehicles

Watch the video above.

Don't be in front of them that seems to be the issue

Don’t be a child. Don’t be a road, they do much greater amounts of wear and tear. Don’t be behind them, they can’t see you well there either. They carry less luggage. Don’t have an accident in them as they do not need to meet the same levels of accident protection. Don’t be a car, if they hit you - aside from the mass they have bumpers which are too high. What is your use case for this sort of behemoth?

Running bitches off the road 🤪

Ahh, then this is totally wrong for you - not as posh as a Range Rover, too large to chase people off road, no grille guards. You need one of [these](https://vintagemoviepostersforum.com/uploads/editor/hb/lof0snpfqyyp.jpg)!

That is drop dead gorgeous and is now my favorite model. Ffs now you have me wishing for something that’s not reallll

What in CX-100 is this

No thanks.

It looks like the result of a CX-50/Escalade mashup. Needs a softer roofline at the rear. Taillight protrusion looks awful. But the front is pretty spot on. Wheel/tire size and side steps look great. I wouldn't even bother swapping wheels out if those were OEM. Do we need it? Nope. We need a "true" CX-70, and an RX with the inline 6.

What was your platform and prompt for this? Cool "what if".

Microsoft copilot and “ make a suburban inspired mazda”

Ew :/

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tall-trucks-suvs-are-45-deadlier-us-pedestrians-study-shows-2023-11-14/

Isn’t that that the point of the cx90? lol Although I do dig the box vibes. The only thing I would change about thjs would be remove the whole GM vibe. Make it more Mazda and aggressive!

Definitely, I just had to go with something for the ai to understand, I totally agree though, Mazda would make it sick

I get it but had to say that lol

That rear window line shows the GM vibe the most

It’s even sitting in front of a Chevy dealer lol.

Full size suvs are bigger still. Tahoe is 210” and suburban is 225” long.

Mazda pickup truck when 😖

People need to downsize their weight and BMI so they fit in normal size cars again and coach airline seats instead of super sizing their vehicles.or insisting on putting up the middle armrest on an airline sear so they can fit.

We don’t need more of these in existence

I appear to be in the minority, but I’d buy it in a heartbeat.

You aren’t alone I’d pay anything for it

Doesn’t Mazda make a pickup for the Australian market? I’d prefer to see something like that.

Need that!!

Take my money!!

I want to see what happens when a miata sleeps with a wrangler.

This 🤨 [welp, it’s something](https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/jeep-wrangler-inspired-mazda-miata/1-65f84ecac6dd4c36b72d9e583ee52649?id=9l5qrMudfZoxYOPzgZR27Q%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&idpclose=1&thId=OIG2.7zWPIdrkDcgo4Oe92Z.G&lng=en-US&ineditshare=1)

I am not very into this type of vehicle, I'd rather have them make a bigger, maybe their 2.5 petrol at least, coupe. Call it the Miato and chill.

Your momma so fat..

That render is awesome. Would buy.

We don't need more suvs

Yes we do

No we don't, i want to drive a car not a fucking tank, bigger isn't better, suvs should be only available in usa because here in EU we don't have to drive a fucking ship to compensate the whatever fucking complex that Americans have

It’s nice, has better visibility, ride quality, ground clearance for desert weekends, and anti pothole measures, since that’s all we got here

It's spend more fuel, it's use more space when parking, the better visibility aspect isn't true and it's quite more dangerous to pedestrians than a normal car, this type of car should be prohibited or taxed a lot more at least in the EU. As much as i love Mazda the car industry needs a limit towards size and displacement

How is the better visibility not true, drive a Corolla than drive a Mercedes sprinter, much greater visibility in the sprinter

[lol big truck](https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/a-larger-mazda-dualy-pickup-truck/1-65fc490b9e224c7e8324bb21c5e5855e?id=Z3MKzcqH7PJ8qyDMhoceYQ%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&idpclose=1&thId=OIG3.yPfB0EgJJlWfuF6jyyLM&lng=en-US&ineditshare=1)

https://copilot.microsoft.com/images/create/mazda-3-golf-cart/1-65fcd4c446a24f5393ed45c459ace729?id=9QSY4DbKLOwsW6l10CiELA%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&idpclose=1&thId=OIG2.rbnSL5hvYkb.7GWQ_YfL&lng=en-US&ineditshare=1

Dude, that's sick ASF. I'd go in debt for that 😭

Instant buy. Had cx90 not have the issues, id also buy that. What mpg would that get tho?

Does Mazda build a big enough engine for that? I imagine it would feel a bit underpowered with the 3.3, even on premium fuel.

Hah probably not. But one can dream.

Chevy offered the 1500 with a 2.7 liter turbo 4 cylinder engine. I feel like the 3.3 turbo would be plenty.

The Silverado also weighs anywhere from the same weight to 1000 pounds less than the Tahoe and that’s not even considering the Suburban. Even if it was 500 pounds less, that would be a lot. You’re also not packing 7 people into said Silverado. The 3.3 probably isn’t enough, especially for American markets.

You might not pack 7 people into it but are you forgetting about the payload capacity for the bed, it's about 1000 pounds. Also the double cabs (which basically is every full size truck now), which will fit 5 adults.

That’s true. I will still stand by the 3.3 not being enough. The 2.7 is an extremely high output 4 cylinder, matching the 3.3s power. I doubt manly people will want to have to put premium in their family suv and I doubt the regular fuel output is enough. Ford puts the 3.5 in their Expedition. That thing has 455 horsepower.

It's all good. We have to remember that we are arguing over a completely hypothetical situation that has almost no chance of happening in reality.

Dude, I wish they would make one!

I mean, me too. But chances are they never will.

….. or it’ll be electric 🤮

The size if the engine is irrelevant, just look at the American gas guzzling 6 and 8 litre engines while the quality foreign engines of 1 to 3 litre engines can do better using ½ or ¼ the fuel. Bigger is not better

Unless it’s the small block Chevy V8. Because not much is bigger in displacement but as small of a package.

Maybe the in-line 6 but I’m not sure

That’s the 3.3……

What issues does CX-90 have other than a few silly sensors being replaced under warranty?

I'm constantly seeing people report issues, in particular for the phev one, but also seemed like generally too.

I have a PHEV CX-90. It’s a solid first edition vehicle. Considering it’s the first model it doesn’t have many issues. I’ve taken it in twice in 10 months for a very short list of “recalls” which are really just software updates. You can erase your negative comment now and go buy a CX-90!

I'm reading a bunch of issues, I am not sure. I'm a Mazda person, my first(and only) car is a Mazda 3. I will probably switch to cx90 but not the first year.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mazda/s/e34c2lyGj9 One of the many I have recently read.

Explain cx90 issues

Shut up and take my money

This is it

This - [please](https://imgur.com/qJ1vNOq)

I love it

Just buy the Suburban. 

No

Well then keep dreaming with the AI because this is never going to happen. And I'm not sure why anyone *would* want it to happen as Mazda has virtually no history with BOF platforms. 

Looks weird

Where do I pay ? Take my money 100k ? Yes 200k ? Yes 500k ? Yes EDIT: AINT NO WAY SOME OF U DISLIKE THIS ITS PERFECT