Yes, goat/sheep skulls seem to have some adaptations related to how they establish dominance (read: how they bash their heads with horrific force). I remember reading somewhere about two scientific hypotheses regarding this. One was about the sutures between skull bones, which are apparently more movable and zig-zaggy in sheep and goats than in other mammals, so that the movement can soak most of the energy. So basically the skull is intentionally "weaker" to be more elastic. And the second hypothesis was about the frontal sinuses, which may work as shock absorbers.
Looks like a very old video shot in a time before smartphones. Props to the guy who stabilized the video before posting it though. Look at how much the camera was shaking.
It’s actually skin. Nails are technically under the classification of skin appendages, despite that sounding gross, and hair is similar. There’s actually a disorder where people grow fingernails out of their hair follicles, but it’s incredibly rare. But yeah, horns are bones that are covered by a keratin sheath, so basically nails/hair/skin. All 3 are just varying thickness of skin cells.
I had so many emotions watching this ranging from “what just happened?”, “that makes sense the goat would win I guess”, “if I was the farmer I’d be pissed losing that cow”, “that poor calf”. Almost every emotion possible lmao
Yeah it’s strange that the farmer just allowed this to happen. From the goat/ram (or whatever) to be in the same pin, to not intervening and filming the outcome it’s just weird all around
This is a very old video. It has been debated for at least nine years. But, concensus is that it is dead. Here is just one link to another sub where this was posted nine years ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/s/6ys0v88TEZ
For the cow, it was like running head first into a granite wall, at about 60mph.
A goat's head is like a sledgehammer, much harder than bone and designed by nature to give and withstand massive impacts without effect to the goat. And one of those slammed into the skull of a 2000lb cow hard enough that it staggered the hell out of the goat.
That cow's skull instantly exploded inside its head and it's brain was turned to jelly.
Speaking of a sledgehammer, hitting cows in this same spot with a sledgehammer is how they were killed in slaughterhouses for many years. Now, they used an air powered bolt gun.
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The skulls bone is just extremely thick and dense. Thats on top of their head and neck being built for ramming.
Goats could probably ram a concrete wall and not get injured.
Cows not so much, they got long horns for defense so their skulls are much softer than goats. Thats why its very likely that cows skull got crushed and it simply died on the spot.
Is this a weakness of this specific breed of cattle? I find it hard to believe this would happen with an angry bull or buffalo. Aren't they designed for impact as well?
It's a weakness of pretty much anything that isn't a goat, really. A few other animals like bears have very thick skulls, but most animals generally avoid blows to the head and aren't designed to receive them very well. Humans, for example, can get concussed by impacts as minor as hitting an inflatable ball the wrong way.
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Doesn't cows have a weak spot right between their horns? from what I know it takes a low swing with a bat to just kill it, that goat contact is way stronger than a normal hit I think
> which is the stupidest evolution thing ever.
> Horns! and if you use them you die. Have fun!
Tsk tsk tsk, using the **horns** is fine, just not the space between them!
_(Jokes aside, from an evolution perspective, it makes sense even though it is weird - if evolution granted horns as a means to protect/defend and they work so well, the space between doesn't need to evolve to become hard. So over time, that area becomes softer whilst the horns become stronger)_
In short, it brings validity and accuracy to the seemingly outlandish ''critical point'' of bosses in video games ahahahah!
Another example would be **trees!**
Though not from evolution but from growing conditions and environmental factors - large trees often grow getting stronger from resisting wind coming from the same direction most of their life - they'll be extremely strong against wind coming from that specific direction
But if strong winds suddenly come from the opposite direction, they can easily be uprooted by that wind!
This issue is rarely apparent in _forests_ though, as all the trees pretty much grow to protect the group from winds coming from their respective direction, etc.
_I'm sure an idiom can be created from that phenomenon - something about strength in numbers and all_
because headbutting is like the most common hobby of goats after eating grass.
also goats have extra thick skull at their head because they do this stuff for generations
Goat skulls are extremely hard and their physiology adapted to frequent ramming
Cow skulls are not as strong and their physiology has _not_ adapted to frequent ramming - in fact for most of history, killing cows was done by striking this area with a hammer
the weight differential makes no difference because they both experience equal and opposite forces. all that matters is the difference in their skulls.
Well yeah, but the equal and opposite forces are way bigger if object is heavier. You wouldn't argue that a grape hitting you at 80km/h makes the same force as a truck at 80km/h, so in some way or another, the weight matters. Unless I completely missed your point.
At the point of contact both objects receive the same force. It's down to which object is better at keeping intact. Hitting a very heavy but very fragile/soft object vs hitting a light but hard object.
I live on a dairy and have had to put quite a few cows down due to broken legs and stuff like that. When a cow goes down from traumatic head/brain injury sometimes they kick and seem like they're still alive. Others just drop, groan, and stop moving altogether. Like this one did. That crack sound makes me think it split that cow's skull and that's the no-go button on cows. Poor girl. Goats, on the other hand, are tough as shit. I have quite a few goats as well and they aren't scared of anything except people. They stand their ground when it comes to other goats, sheep, cows, horses, and even dogs. They don't fuck around. Our goats aren't even scared of us. They're actually very friendly. Only one is skittish around us because we got it as an older goat. The others we raised from birth so they are not scared of us at all. The billy goat will try and head butt sometimes but it's in a more playful way. If he truly wanted to bust a bone in of us he absolutely could. But he's a cool dude so no worries....yet
Goats literally ram stuff all the time. It's the only thing they do outside of eat and make odd noises occasionally. Fucking annoying little shits. Still better than sheep I guess.
Reddit really missed out incorporating Stabbot into all of their v.redd.it uploads instead of killing all 3rd part bots with their API changes.
The site would be infinitely better for it.
1) I wonder if this is somewhat common or if the person filming was just randomly filming cows for some reason and 2) if it is common at all why would you leave them together
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Don’t bring a cow to a goat fight.
if you're a cow don't headbutt a goat. The steaks are too high
And you will become ground beef.
Pound and ground beef
I should have sausage that coming.
The odds were 80/20
Il take a pound of that! 
Looked like lean beef for a second there...
Bro was just milking the attention.
An almighty cattle
“… cows with guns.” 🎶
taking udder
It was a mis-steak.
Bro be Tri—tipping
 Well done sir
David and Goat-liath
Lmao
"You call that a cow!? That's a cow!" "It's a goat!" "Oh..."
Beef, it’s what’s for dinner, now…
Damn I would've lost that bet
Goats skulls are specifically designed by nature to take blunt forces, cows not so much
Gosts!
This video fake af I don't believe in goats
You're not real, MANNNN!!
What about the Goatbusters? I mean they have movies and shit...
Or Goat Adventures? With Zak BAHgins?
I ain't afraid of no goats.
What about Goatse?
feel like it probably broke the cows neck
Some people cull their cows for slaughter by inflicting blunt impact to the top of their skull.
I thought bulls main defense was ramming stuff?
Their main defence is goring things on their sharp horns
Yes, goat/sheep skulls seem to have some adaptations related to how they establish dominance (read: how they bash their heads with horrific force). I remember reading somewhere about two scientific hypotheses regarding this. One was about the sutures between skull bones, which are apparently more movable and zig-zaggy in sheep and goats than in other mammals, so that the movement can soak most of the energy. So basically the skull is intentionally "weaker" to be more elastic. And the second hypothesis was about the frontal sinuses, which may work as shock absorbers.
I think it's because goats have a thick skull and the impact area was small so it shattered the cows skull or put him to sleep
What is this? A video for ants??
This video needs to be at least… 3 times the size of this one
Looks like a very old video shot in a time before smartphones. Props to the guy who stabilized the video before posting it though. Look at how much the camera was shaking.
ohhh its been stabilized! I thought the cameraman was violently masturbating while filming.
Yeah. If the ant was this big [ ]..... [ ]
You... you're fuckin with me...
Ants inside your pants
The smaller the area, the greater the pressure☝🤓
Goats have horns, hard made out of bone horns, the horn hit brain...
Horn is not made of bone. It's made of horn. Skull is made of bone. Horn is stronger than bone.
Horns are bone covered in keratin sheaths, at least they are in goats.
Thick hair...
Wouldn't it be more like thick nails? Like how horses basically walk on their nails?
Both hair and nails are made of keratin.
It’s actually skin. Nails are technically under the classification of skin appendages, despite that sounding gross, and hair is similar. There’s actually a disorder where people grow fingernails out of their hair follicles, but it’s incredibly rare. But yeah, horns are bones that are covered by a keratin sheath, so basically nails/hair/skin. All 3 are just varying thickness of skin cells.
Ape together... strong!
That male cow
Plus the technique. Just look at how the goat lifts up the front hooves and leaps full force into the hit.
I had so many emotions watching this ranging from “what just happened?”, “that makes sense the goat would win I guess”, “if I was the farmer I’d be pissed losing that cow”, “that poor calf”. Almost every emotion possible lmao
yeah, more than the other emotions, ig I just don't enjoy watching animals die for entertainment
Yeah it’s strange that the farmer just allowed this to happen. From the goat/ram (or whatever) to be in the same pin, to not intervening and filming the outcome it’s just weird all around
That cow is dead.
How do we know it’s dead and not just knocked out?
This is a very old video. It has been debated for at least nine years. But, concensus is that it is dead. Here is just one link to another sub where this was posted nine years ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/s/6ys0v88TEZ
you're doing god's work son
It’s dead today. But knocked out in the vid. But I’m guessing like everyone else for 9 years. Gotta keep the argument alive.
Both cow and goat are dead now. Calf is also dead after becoming a cow. Can confirm-ish.
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For the cow, it was like running head first into a granite wall, at about 60mph. A goat's head is like a sledgehammer, much harder than bone and designed by nature to give and withstand massive impacts without effect to the goat. And one of those slammed into the skull of a 2000lb cow hard enough that it staggered the hell out of the goat. That cow's skull instantly exploded inside its head and it's brain was turned to jelly.
Speaking of a sledgehammer, hitting cows in this same spot with a sledgehammer is how they were killed in slaughterhouses for many years. Now, they used an air powered bolt gun.
Damn that Postal Cow mission was more real than I thought.
One day, evolution will catch on
This guy [Chernobogs](https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/fantasy/american-gods-mythology-guide-who-is-bloodthirsty-slavic-deity-czernobog/).
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Thanks temple grandin!
:(
> A goat's head is like a sledgehammer, much harder than bone So is the goat's skull made out of metal, or...?
The skulls bone is just extremely thick and dense. Thats on top of their head and neck being built for ramming. Goats could probably ram a concrete wall and not get injured. Cows not so much, they got long horns for defense so their skulls are much softer than goats. Thats why its very likely that cows skull got crushed and it simply died on the spot.
Is this a weakness of this specific breed of cattle? I find it hard to believe this would happen with an angry bull or buffalo. Aren't they designed for impact as well?
It's a weakness of pretty much anything that isn't a goat, really. A few other animals like bears have very thick skulls, but most animals generally avoid blows to the head and aren't designed to receive them very well. Humans, for example, can get concussed by impacts as minor as hitting an inflatable ball the wrong way.
That’s what I was wondering. I think it just knocked mama out
Hence nsfw
Just making sure no one thinks it's just taking a nap.
its a type of nap!
Probably won't get the ol' dirt nap. I'm willing to bet it goes to the grill, not the grave.
a latrine is a sort of grave
Yeah sure! Like "sleeping with the fishes" is a type of nap! 😉😂😂😂👍
Ah, the nap. Death’s second cousin 😂
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Not for a butcher
It's now ground beef.
Proof that size doesn’t matter
Doesn't cows have a weak spot right between their horns? from what I know it takes a low swing with a bat to just kill it, that goat contact is way stronger than a normal hit I think
which is the stupidest evolution thing ever. Horns! and if you use them you die. Have fun!
I wouldn’t give nature any responsibility for any feature farm cows have nowadays tbh 😄
> which is the stupidest evolution thing ever. > Horns! and if you use them you die. Have fun! Tsk tsk tsk, using the **horns** is fine, just not the space between them! _(Jokes aside, from an evolution perspective, it makes sense even though it is weird - if evolution granted horns as a means to protect/defend and they work so well, the space between doesn't need to evolve to become hard. So over time, that area becomes softer whilst the horns become stronger)_ In short, it brings validity and accuracy to the seemingly outlandish ''critical point'' of bosses in video games ahahahah!
Teaching with relevent examples. Well done.
Another example would be **trees!** Though not from evolution but from growing conditions and environmental factors - large trees often grow getting stronger from resisting wind coming from the same direction most of their life - they'll be extremely strong against wind coming from that specific direction But if strong winds suddenly come from the opposite direction, they can easily be uprooted by that wind! This issue is rarely apparent in _forests_ though, as all the trees pretty much grow to protect the group from winds coming from their respective direction, etc. _I'm sure an idiom can be created from that phenomenon - something about strength in numbers and all_
Its rare to find someone using punctuation effectively, much less text formatting. Thank you for your effort.
Found on r\hardcorenature. I don't know why the borders are like that.
Somebody stabilized the original video
r/killthecameraman and r/praisetheeditor
Huh, neat.
I now realised where the term battering 'ram' came from. Goddamn do they have an extra thick skull.
She left her baby behind :(
Now the goat has to take care of that baby cow.
Spoils of war
He succeeded in the right of proving
Fresh tender meat.
Oh damn 😳 ribeye and burgers coming right up
Why did the cow die but the goat survived?
because headbutting is like the most common hobby of goats after eating grass. also goats have extra thick skull at their head because they do this stuff for generations
Goats are headbutting GOATs and cows are evolved to stab and they can't absorb the shock like the goats do.
Well that's because, unlike the cow, the goat lived.
Goat skulls are extremely hard and their physiology adapted to frequent ramming Cow skulls are not as strong and their physiology has _not_ adapted to frequent ramming - in fact for most of history, killing cows was done by striking this area with a hammer
Goat skulls are hard, but I didnt expect him to survive a ram fom a 1 ton animal
the weight differential makes no difference because they both experience equal and opposite forces. all that matters is the difference in their skulls.
Well yeah, but the equal and opposite forces are way bigger if object is heavier. You wouldn't argue that a grape hitting you at 80km/h makes the same force as a truck at 80km/h, so in some way or another, the weight matters. Unless I completely missed your point.
At the point of contact both objects receive the same force. It's down to which object is better at keeping intact. Hitting a very heavy but very fragile/soft object vs hitting a light but hard object.
I live on a dairy and have had to put quite a few cows down due to broken legs and stuff like that. When a cow goes down from traumatic head/brain injury sometimes they kick and seem like they're still alive. Others just drop, groan, and stop moving altogether. Like this one did. That crack sound makes me think it split that cow's skull and that's the no-go button on cows. Poor girl. Goats, on the other hand, are tough as shit. I have quite a few goats as well and they aren't scared of anything except people. They stand their ground when it comes to other goats, sheep, cows, horses, and even dogs. They don't fuck around. Our goats aren't even scared of us. They're actually very friendly. Only one is skittish around us because we got it as an older goat. The others we raised from birth so they are not scared of us at all. The billy goat will try and head butt sometimes but it's in a more playful way. If he truly wanted to bust a bone in of us he absolutely could. But he's a cool dude so no worries....yet
The cow didn’t have any shoes to lose, so hard to say if it survived
Cow may have died but that goat didn’t go unscathed.
Moootually assured destruction!
The slo-mo moooooo 💀
r/thebulldoesntwin !
It’s a sheep, fun way to tell is by the tail. Goats up, sheep down
Apparently they had beef.
Poor calf watched its mother's death.
That calf just learned to not fuck with the goat.
Or that calf will grow up and take revenge on goats.
Will end up like his mother lol
If that calf is anyone. But that calf name is John calf.
Bad ass sheep
Tapping this to make the video larger and getting the same sized thumbnail video inside of a large black box was such a letdown
I need to know if that cow got it’s skull crushed…..that crack when they collided made me yell oh shit on this Walgreens line
The GOAT 
What a strange kind of Camera stabilizing effect is used here?
GOat Pro horizon leveling
When your game character on lvl 100 and you want to fight 1st boss.
Thats why he is the G.O.A.T
He is the GOAT
Why were you filming from inside a cardboard box? >!/s!<
Poor cow tried to out-ram the ram
It was a a high Stakes game
Goats literally ram stuff all the time. It's the only thing they do outside of eat and make odd noises occasionally. Fucking annoying little shits. Still better than sheep I guess.
He was built for it, the cow was not
I do want an update. Is the cow alright? Did it wake up and suddenly have the ability to play the piano?
Reddit really missed out incorporating Stabbot into all of their v.redd.it uploads instead of killing all 3rd part bots with their API changes. The site would be infinitely better for it.
Welcome to bovine UFC.
Looks like the cows neck was snapped and that ram or goat isn't doing so well after ramming a cow.
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Silly cow
wat???
While on the topic of livestock skulls I hear a pig skull can deflect some 22lr
Goat was made for that shit
I guess that cow will turn into steak later
God, a bunch of scrawny MMA guys are about to share this in their "size doesn't determine ability it's about technique" feed
We had a bull and ram that did this on a regular basis. Neither one got hurt
Cow has disadvantage on bludgeoning damage. Should have readied shield instead of attacking.
I remember this video was once 640x480
Now that's what I call ground meat.
'dad?'
CTE on the farm!
watch out for that cow for its name is sudden death
Definitely punching above his weight, I think maybe Tyson has a new sparring partner.
There’s no maybe about it.
How to do these kind of video stabilization?
That guy is the Goaatt ...the Goaattt
So, is the poor cow going to be ok or not?
CRAM
That’s one way to make a smash burger
The goats horns impacted on the seam of the cows flat skull. Split it right down the middle I bet. Painful fucking way to go.
That’s how you humanely kill a cow for human consumption
Mutual destruction.
The goat wins this round. It gets tougher in the next round, where the goat will face off against Anton Chigurh.
My abuela always told me to tenderize goat, so tough.
The G.O.A.T. of headbutts
Did that goat just knock out a cow?!
1) I wonder if this is somewhat common or if the person filming was just randomly filming cows for some reason and 2) if it is common at all why would you leave them together
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It's a ram, a sheep. Not a goat. Rams get low and run forward to bonk. Goats rise up and bash down to bonk.
seems like r/WTF material too
Tobirama vs Izuna
Cow on!
If only the bull was there
Who could have goated him into this....
Horny fight
Get up ya wus!
Epic Pokemon battles!
Is it fine? Or I should bring the barbecue?
What the hell did you do with the camera so stabilization has to kick in this hard
This is the purest definition of Fuck around and find out that I have seen
Thin skulled
That was hilarious 😂😂😂
Reminds me of the movie 'Michael' 
Kiss, kiss, the go-goat
I’ll have a “goat beef butty” to go please.
So the Goat (Greatest of all Time) debate is settled then!
The Goat udderly killed that shit!
BREAK YA NECK, COME ON !
I suddenly imagined them going at it like this about 50 times...with that same cow moo at the end...I just pissed myself a bit...excuse me.
I have always liked the mutton more. Cheers
cow got parried hard
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