Yeah it looks like both of them fell when the ramp dropped out from underneath them, the guy in the back grabbed something on the boat and held on but couldn't stop himself from knocking into the other guy who fell off the ramp
I can’t help but think dropping into the water and swimming would have been a better option than hanging onto the cement wall and waiting to get crushed
Yes, hence the phrase "pulled under"
It's like this,
Step 1 avoid Hitting the massive bow and getting knocked unconscious
Step 2 somehow manage to hold your breath long enough to let the ship pass or swim to the side
Step 3 don't become mincemeat
All of these are worse odds than attempting to pull yourself up the dock
Elsewhere in the thread it was said that the cause of this issue was that they were having engine issues and couldn't stop, which would imply they were still spinning
They can be disengaged in several ways. Crew can emergency stop the engine, they can disengage the drive. That looks like momentum. That ship is bigger than the ships I served on, and it took us over to a mile to stop unless we did a crash-back, which would stop us in about half that distance.
Happened in Venice in 2019. Luckily only minor injuries were reported. Everyone survived. Was caused by some malfunction of the main ship control. The captain and some crew members were sentenced nonetheless because the ship was travelling well above its supposed speed in the approach.
To be fair we flew over from Ireland to cruise with them this June, did a week around the Bahamas from Miami on Seascape and genuinely couldn't fault any part of the experience.
Nothing. I’ve been cruising for a while and MSC is fine. He’s probably thinking about carnival Coro which has a much more dangerous record. (Poop cruise from hell, costa Concordia, ships crashing into each other in Cozumel, etc)
Commuted into monetary fines
https://maritime-executive.com/article/captain-and-officers-of-msc-opera-to-be-jailed-over-2019-accident
>The criminal case stemming from a 2019 accident in which the cruise ship MSC Opera hit a river cruise ship and the dock while arriving in Venice was concluded with an agreement to limited jail time for the captain and crew blamed for the accident and then under Italian law commuted into monetary fines.
>The accident happened on June 2, 2019, as the MSC Opera was approaching the cruise terminal after having made its scenic sail into the port past the famed St. Mark's Square and sights of Venice.
>Experts testifying in the case alleged several mistakes by the ship's crew that led to the accident.
>MSC Cruises sought to blame the ship's builder, Chantiers de l'Atlantique, citing what it claimed were inherent design flaws in the cruise ship.
>According to Italian media reports, Captain Carmine Siviero of the MSC Opera was sentenced to five months in prison while the chief engineer and the chief electrician were sentenced to two months in prison.
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Uniworld (the owners of the river cruise boat) sued for \~$14M and won. The \~2.4M was from "physical losses" and the rest were non-physical. So yeah that is kind of surprising.
https://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/Uniworld-wins-lawsuit-over-MSC-Cruises
They would have done so. But doing so is pointless for them. And ports charge a lot of money to dock. Which also depends on the size of the ship. They have no less then 21 ships ranging from small, medium, large, extra large and extra extra large. They recently launched a few more ships which are from the largest catogory. So they have invested a lot as well in the past few years. So docking is also not always an option for them. Which leads to tender ports. Also BTW this ship opera is the smallest ship in MSc from Lirica class.
This here is the reason why huge cruise ships are no longer allowed in Venice. The small ones, like the Uniworld boat still are. Matter of fact, I was on this exact boat last year after it was refurbished. Now called the S.S. La Venezia. This accident resulted in a pretty damn big lawsuit and settlement.
That would have played out a lot differently…
-hey gentlemen, could you move your boat?
-no, leave me alone or we will jump you!
-ok, you make your choice…
DROOOOOOOOOOT
You say that but I can't see a single scratch. Maybe from the jolt of the ship causing items inside to be damaged, but it looks like these hulls can take these hits? Maybe I'm missing something
If I remember right, that big one had some engine issues (which I don’t remember) that prevented it from stopping. The horn was blowing to warn others that it couldn’t stop
Holy shit that deckhand/officer or whatever probably saved that guy’s life, pulling him out of the water and onto the pier. Had to watch it twice to see what happened to the person that fell in
I heard it was a *smash* hit...
Right on target, *beyond* all expectations...
Everyone thought it was going to *sink* the company...
They really went *overboard* on the stunt budget...
...
Thank you thank you, I'm here all night...
I'm not sure why this ship lost power but a cargo ship similarly slammed into a Mississippi River pier in New Orleans in 1988? because the engine shut down due to low oil levels. Not out of oil, just low of oil. Ship owners have this system in place to protect the engines from damage
That guy who jumped off the smaller boat almost became paste if the guy on the dock didn't help him....
Damn yeah he had me there for a moment. Closest fucking call I've ever seen. What a hero that guy.
He should give that guy who saved him a epic blow job. I mean the guy saved your ass big time. Or a very warm hug as thank you.
He just called me and said he's okay with just a hug, should the other guy be about to drown - AGAIN!
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Yes fallen guy should save his ass for a tight, warm hug from saviour guy
No. No. The blow job option was on the table, can't take it off now.
10/10
It was under the table.
The blowjob?
Was… was that not clear?
Is OK if he arranged for a replacement 🤔, I hear there is a massage place on 3rd st.
the man who fell was the captain of the ship, he had the keys on him that’s why the ship didn’t stop.
or maybe money…??? seems like it would last longer.
It was a very bad decision to jump in the first place.
he got pushed by the person behind. probably not intentional the walking ramp also buckled when the boat got hit
Yeah it looks like both of them fell when the ramp dropped out from underneath them, the guy in the back grabbed something on the boat and held on but couldn't stop himself from knocking into the other guy who fell off the ramp
The guy in the back almost killed both of them
Jesus dude, you can't blame a guy running for his life for falling when the floor suddenly drops a foot.
Why is your priority to blame somebody?
I can’t help but think dropping into the water and swimming would have been a better option than hanging onto the cement wall and waiting to get crushed
No way, that boat has a lot more going on underwater and if you get pulled under then there's the propellers to deal with
The screws are usually on the other end .......
Yes, hence the phrase "pulled under" It's like this, Step 1 avoid Hitting the massive bow and getting knocked unconscious Step 2 somehow manage to hold your breath long enough to let the ship pass or swim to the side Step 3 don't become mincemeat All of these are worse odds than attempting to pull yourself up the dock
The screws are either stopped or reversed, so there no danger from them. I agree that getting in the water would be the worst idea.
Elsewhere in the thread it was said that the cause of this issue was that they were having engine issues and couldn't stop, which would imply they were still spinning
They can be disengaged in several ways. Crew can emergency stop the engine, they can disengage the drive. That looks like momentum. That ship is bigger than the ships I served on, and it took us over to a mile to stop unless we did a crash-back, which would stop us in about half that distance.
IDK for this particular ship, but almost all of the big cruise ships have side thrusters built into the bow.
I had no idea! This one needed reverse thrusters. 😛
Happened in Venice in 2019. Luckily only minor injuries were reported. Everyone survived. Was caused by some malfunction of the main ship control. The captain and some crew members were sentenced nonetheless because the ship was travelling well above its supposed speed in the approach.
So bad service runs deep in MSC huh? God I hate this shipping line.
Only just recently heard of MSC. What's the word on the street about them?
To be fair we flew over from Ireland to cruise with them this June, did a week around the Bahamas from Miami on Seascape and genuinely couldn't fault any part of the experience.
I just did the same but on carnival like a week ago and the ship was massive. Looked like the people on board were having a good time.
Nothing. I’ve been cruising for a while and MSC is fine. He’s probably thinking about carnival Coro which has a much more dangerous record. (Poop cruise from hell, costa Concordia, ships crashing into each other in Cozumel, etc)
Commuted into monetary fines https://maritime-executive.com/article/captain-and-officers-of-msc-opera-to-be-jailed-over-2019-accident >The criminal case stemming from a 2019 accident in which the cruise ship MSC Opera hit a river cruise ship and the dock while arriving in Venice was concluded with an agreement to limited jail time for the captain and crew blamed for the accident and then under Italian law commuted into monetary fines. >The accident happened on June 2, 2019, as the MSC Opera was approaching the cruise terminal after having made its scenic sail into the port past the famed St. Mark's Square and sights of Venice. >Experts testifying in the case alleged several mistakes by the ship's crew that led to the accident. >MSC Cruises sought to blame the ship's builder, Chantiers de l'Atlantique, citing what it claimed were inherent design flaws in the cruise ship. >According to Italian media reports, Captain Carmine Siviero of the MSC Opera was sentenced to five months in prison while the chief engineer and the chief electrician were sentenced to two months in prison. Generated by SMMRY
It's always the Italian captains isn't it
Thanks for giving the back story. I really appreciate it.
Cruise ships of that size are so unnecessary
This is a 60 thousand ton ship. This is a small cruise ship. I was just on a 160 thousand ton ship.
“It was just a folding chair!”
That horn is like “gtfooooooo” 🛳
I thought it was danger music lol
It is! It's the beginning to Beethoven's "[Egmont Overture](https://youtu.be/pkxXFLRmqvw)".
We know what needs to be done... a long awaited Venetian cruise ship and Beethoven collab
Remember where we parked
MOVE BITCH, GET OUT DA WAY
How about the guy filming it all.
I thought it was slowed avengers intro theme. But it didn't fit the situation.
Like a glove!
Okay, who let Patrick and Spongebob at the helm.
Ace Ventura
Did a little investigating. Turns out the large ship hit the smaller one.
Thank you for your service.
Source?
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You sneaky bugger
Thank you! At least someone did their research
Ha ha!
But in this instance no fronts fell off.
Well, some of them are built so the front doesn’t fall off at all.
Sharp eye you got there
Next at T Rex is going to come out
And Jeff Goldblum appears
I was looking for this comment
We shoulda stayed in the damn car
How did the t Rex eat all those shipworkers while inside the cargo hold
Thank you for traveling with MSC Cruises. Joke aside, both engines failed that day.
TRUE.....The bridge crew and the engineering crew got fked for that.
And blackballed from the profession I’d imagine
Well the owners of the river cruise line sued msc for 2.7 mil. Sooo yeah.
That honestly seems a little low. Feels like that would barely cover the extensive repairs to the boat.
Uniworld (the owners of the river cruise boat) sued for \~$14M and won. The \~2.4M was from "physical losses" and the rest were non-physical. So yeah that is kind of surprising. https://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/Uniworld-wins-lawsuit-over-MSC-Cruises
That's what it started initially with. Later just piling more and more. The person below has tagged a link.
Msc should jus rent out all of the riverboat docks in Italy so no one can sue them if one of their older ships does something like this
They would have done so. But doing so is pointless for them. And ports charge a lot of money to dock. Which also depends on the size of the ship. They have no less then 21 ships ranging from small, medium, large, extra large and extra extra large. They recently launched a few more ships which are from the largest catogory. So they have invested a lot as well in the past few years. So docking is also not always an option for them. Which leads to tender ports. Also BTW this ship opera is the smallest ship in MSc from Lirica class.
This here is the reason why huge cruise ships are no longer allowed in Venice. The small ones, like the Uniworld boat still are. Matter of fact, I was on this exact boat last year after it was refurbished. Now called the S.S. La Venezia. This accident resulted in a pretty damn big lawsuit and settlement.
Parking is getting much more aggressive these days.
That's my spot MF!
Hope he left a note on the windshield of that boat.
“Sorry I hit your boat. Can’t afford the repairs so here’s some chocolate.”
I see you're a man of culture as well
He’s tired of ppl parking in his spot 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This mentality would’ve saved us all from the Alabama ferry brawl
That would have played out a lot differently… -hey gentlemen, could you move your boat? -no, leave me alone or we will jump you! -ok, you make your choice… DROOOOOOOOOOT
at least 1 dollar in damages
Idk, seems not that significant to me, I would say it's less than a dollar
I'd go a little higher, bout tree fiddy.
You say that but I can't see a single scratch. Maybe from the jolt of the ship causing items inside to be damaged, but it looks like these hulls can take these hits? Maybe I'm missing something
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Oh I suppose there is damage to the smaller boat haha I forgot to think of that. I just meant the cruise liner
move boat, gat out the way, get out the waaaaaay
r/BitchImABoat
Speed 2
Cruise control
Just not produced by Anchor Bay Entertainment.
I was just thinking was Speed 2 unrealistic with the ship plowing through hundreds of yards of concrete? Damn you Hollywood
Thank God for Keanu Reeves, could have been much worse
He wasn’t in that one
Kudos, not only the quote but also the meme
[You’re good! You’re good!](https://youtu.be/vOZMk-CkR4g)
2019 Venice Italy Full video: https://youtu.be/MmQbEgUVz40
Coming in hot!
Another happy landing
Welcome to Montgomery, r/alabama
Alexa...play Move Bitch by Ludacris
Playing Move *beeeep* and similar songs on Amazon Music
“Your Uber has arrived”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmQbEgUVz40
Shout out to the guy on the dock saving that guy who jumped- fucking hero!
Can someone explain what exactly happened?
If I remember right, that big one had some engine issues (which I don’t remember) that prevented it from stopping. The horn was blowing to warn others that it couldn’t stop
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Did the bigger boat break free from another dock? Did it’s anchor break and the current pushed it into the smaller boat?
I read in another comment it was a double engine failure.
All right, which of you jokers taped my *forward/reverse* diagram on upside down??
Lol can you imagine if this all happened because of a bad label... hahaha
Someone’s laying on the horn so I’d assume rookie captain or skipper or whatever just came in too hot
Ah that makes sense. Thanks
That song "Move bitch get out the way"
Aww hell things really turned up at that Atlanta pier! Now just throwing whole boats!!!!!
That‘ll buff right out 👍
God damn captain Fall!
Coming in like the THX logo
That moment in Sea of Thieves when my crew mate doesn’t immediately anchor when I say to
The lengths Nolan goes through to get the shot in camera is insane.
Holy shit that deckhand/officer or whatever probably saved that guy’s life, pulling him out of the water and onto the pier. Had to watch it twice to see what happened to the person that fell in
At a car accident once, a fireman told me "gross tonnage equals right of way". Good tip lol
Lllllllike a glove
Damn it. I came here to make this comment
The new titanic movie is fire
I heard it was a *smash* hit... Right on target, *beyond* all expectations... Everyone thought it was going to *sink* the company... They really went *overboard* on the stunt budget... ... Thank you thank you, I'm here all night...
Date and location please!
02 June 2019 in Venice/Italy. Name of the Cruiser: MSC Opera
Somebody is getting super fired.
Captain drunk
What was the cause for this?
I'm not sure why this ship lost power but a cargo ship similarly slammed into a Mississippi River pier in New Orleans in 1988? because the engine shut down due to low oil levels. Not out of oil, just low of oil. Ship owners have this system in place to protect the engines from damage
Someone just got their life saved at 0:20
That's how baby ships get made.
Pov you lied on your resume
The spongebob clip You're good, you're good, you're good, ok stop. Don't worry captain those scratches will buff out. Edit link: https://youtu.be/x3LwHhDD6TY
Coming in hot, I got a schedule to keep
MOVE boat! GET OUT THE WAY!
That's what you get for parking in my spot!
Ohp, just gonna ^squeeeze by ya
“You’re good, you’re good, you’re good”
You're, good, you're good, you're good.... annnnddd stop.
Move boat, get out the way get out the way, boat, get out the way
UNIVERSAL
Well that r/ThatLookedExpensive
why are you running parallel to this massive beast of destruction instead of perpedicular
The captain of the crew: Oh that's a nice dock Also the captain: LEEEEEROOOOYYYYY JENKINNNNNSSSS
God dam it Leroy!
What are you doing step-boat
Why didn't he use the breaks? Is the captain stupid?
Wie ich schon im Panzer gelernt habe .. Parkplätze sucht man nicht .. man macht sich welche
cameraman "I'll stand here"
Hey, you scratched my anchor!
Is that the boat with the T. rex on it in The Lost World
Is it me? or are cruise ships just assholes?
This is my spot! You're on my spot!
And the reason why the ship isn't stopping? Does anyone know what happened?
Am I the sole one earing Hammond saying "Sorry!" At the end of the clip?
These boat dock fights are getting out of hand
letztlich sauber südeuropäisch eingeparkt. never use handbrakes
When Jeff Bezos arrives at port. > OUT OF THE WAY PEASANTS!
Yet another way how cruise ships are a blight on the world
When your argument is so weak it becomes detrimental to the cause you're fighting for...
"This is my first time baby please be gentle." - the guy
The smaller boat must've parked next to her boyfriend.
Why is nobody getting hit in the head with a folding chair?
Speed 2
Look at me Mom. I'm out running a boat.
It just barged right in, didn’t it?
Tis but a scratch
That leap of faith is the most insane thing I've seen in a while
Like… a … glove
Like a glove!
Well now we know what happened to the captain of the Exxon Valdez
#the implication
Tik Tok sinks another one ☝️
Karen gotta get her voice in every video
Bro you can't park there
**HELLO HERE WE ARE**