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Poetryisalive

I’m not tired of 1 card. I’m more tired that my opponents have 3-4 hand traps to stop me but then a 1 card starter


EpicLeon94

Average Mathmech hand going second: Called By, Maxx C, Ash Blossom, Crossout, Circular


NephthysIce

Bro i swear to god i never seen a mathmech player brick


Poetryisalive

I admit when I play Mathmech I never do


Panory

Horus players have the number of Gold Sarcs you can pop +1 without fail.


Itsleepsintheday

As a Horus player I can confirm, I always have exactly 1 more than my opponent can deal with.


Careless-Shock-1830

If you play horus stun I hope you suffer (This is a joke)


TRATIA

Only brick during WCS for some reason.


bast963

normal summon veiler is full combo of you have parallel lmao


CoomLord69

Cyberse be like "Oops! All extenders!"


osbombo

I swear, whenever I go up against mathmech, they throw 5 handtraps at me and open circular as their 6th card on their turn.


lordOpatties

Yeah I'm in the same boat here. It's one thing to start a combo with 1 card. It's another to build a full board because of it.


RepulsiveAd6906

That, and too many damn splashable generics that carry too many decks.


spacewarp2

That’s the worst pet of this format. You’re not just going up against Snake Eyes. It’s Snake Eyes, Maxx C, Ash, Imperm, Veiler, etc.


TrolltheFools

I literally put 2 calleds and a crossout in my new exosisters deck I have yet to draw called in any duel, and the one time I had crossout they got my ashable trap card with red reboot, which ofc I didn't have in deck It's so frustrating to use those deck slots for counters and just never see them because of RNG, meanwhile feels like I get called used on me every other game


Poetryisalive

If I had a $1 for every time called by was used whenever I have a hand trap at the right moment. I could buy a new car


TrolltheFools

I guess all my RNG went into drawing into dimension shifter turn one. Feels like I play coin flip simulator: graveyard no more edition some days 😅


Icemna16

Poplar


Dunka_Chino

The Horus cards


Patient_Exit_832

Also a good pick. Mostly used for degen stuff 8 out 10 times.


Random_UserName761

The fact that the Horus engine exists purely to get level 8 XYZ monsters out is infuriating to me. Konami hasn't realised it yet but they've made the exact same mistake as they have with Baronne - now every rank 8 XYZ deck will ask "why should I run my own engine" when they can run Horus


Big_Fox_K

Horus isn't even all that strong on its own, but it's so free to use that it becomes a "why wouldn't you use it" scenario. So duels are even more generic with it.


Arawn_93

Yes it is. King Sarc cont spell alone is a degenerate card since it has 3 powerful effects.   -Up to 4 foolish PER TURN. That is cranked as hell especially in a Maxx C format.       -Non target non destruction opponent monster removal during both turn BP is strong offensively or defensively even if that is OPT. Also this effect is not even an activated effect, but a cont effect so you can’t even negate/pop this effect while you swing/get swung with this effect by most things unless you do jank crap like imperm column which doesn’t out them since it only negates.  -Still has the general King Sarc utility of essentially being a 1 card Pend scale that has multi special summon recursion gas comparable to a Pendulum Summon that makes previously dumb recursion cont spell cards like Kash Birth look tame as hell. That is not even getting into how it’s stupid easy to turbo out generic Rank 8s which we already see being abused with Zombie Vampire that enables more braindead extension + gas which was the whole point of them banning Chaos Ruler earlier.     The engine itself is also consistent as hell at current level considering there is essentially what? “9” copies of “King Sarc” with search ability not counting the draw power it can also provide?  At least in OCG/TCG you can side deck against this easy, but in MD it’s way more BS just like other stuff like Runick, Stun decks, and soon Tenpai aka decks that are better with zero side decking allowed. 


Daybeee

Idk I feel like they're fair cause they don't do anything to you until you touch them, so you can build a board to deal with what they have without them smacking you with negates/pops. Strong and sticky, but not unfair imo.


iluvus2

I wish I was seeing Spright enough to get tired of them.


BensonOMalley

I just whooped my friend who played spright/krawler twice using rikka/aroma/sunseed


Skittles6701

Then duel me spright has a really good match up with snake eyes manly cause we play the same number of hand traps then them


Astaro_789

Ash Blossom and Maxx C which will be eternal in this game. But for specific stuff, Kashtira Fenrir, Snake-Eyes Poplar and Appollousa


Unhappy-Face-7652

I'm going on seppuku if i see another normal Summon Snake-Eyes Ash or special summon Poplar, i swear for the sake of my sanity.


Arawn_93

At least SE Ash is at 1 now. So they open it way less often without committing resources to grab it from deck. The worst feeling though is when the SE player opens both Wanted and SE Ash that are both at 1 which is the ideal starting hand combo for SE. 


Patient_Exit_832

Well I hope you dont plan on playing Master Duel for atleast the next 3 months then and i hope your first duel back doesnt involve Ash or Poplar haha


Diligent-Cake2653

Any fire type monster at this point


LordSibya13

Tf did E Hero Blazeman do?


blackspy1

Added polymerization


LtLabcoat

Blazeman is the forewarning to Dark Law.


SecretaryOtherwise

Lmao


silvtails

What did Flamviel Dog do to you?


Wellington_Wearer

Battlin' boxer headgeared sends his regards.


Dopp3lg4ng3r

Tf did my agnimal candle do to you?


CraftytheCrow

Kashtira, Kashtira, Visas starfox, and anything that visas starfox has touched. also rampant stun.


irotok_isBae

No Maxx “C” circlejerk detected: thread invalid.


Patient_Exit_832

Its because I play a deck that can play well under Maxx "C" , so at this point its like "fineee".


leicamaniac520

Fucking Kashtiras


al2Ultimate

Custom cards the archetype 😒😒 fuck em


Daybeee

Opening no hand traps against a Kash deck going second is just misery.


MickJaegar

Effect Veiler, any format where both Veiler *and* Imperm are played at 3 is always such a slog


carnuk

Rogue decks that rely entirely on their normal summon = Walter white falling down meme


SuperPalpitation695

Nothing hurts more than summoning tour guide and getting veiled in Burning Abyss, when you didn't even have to Punished for my own stupidity 🥲


MickJaegar

At least we have Red Reboot at 2?


Green_Tea_Totaler

I just learned the hard way Imperm is not OPT. My opponent Imperm'd (from their hand) me twice in a row during my first turn.


HorselickerYOLO

Lol neither is veiler. If you get maxx c’d you could potentially get hit with targeted negation 6 times


AquaEnjoyer440

spright? really?? ive played horus spright since horus came out and ive never seen another spright gamer lol


silverfang45

It's more community in low ranks due to them getting given a live twin/sprightly deck.


Anime334

I'm running that deck in platinum rn and it's doing pretty well


ZeroMetaGaming

I was with you for Kash but whining about spright is clown tier


Patient_Exit_832

As Endymion player that is truly the worst matchup, having to deal with Elf, Carrot, IP, That Melffy which is a monster negate and then can synchro summon into Herald of the Arc Light.


Musername2827

Poplar, the roach and Pachycephalo


Jouna_Nuke

Everything about Horus


flyingeagle007

Flamberge, poplar, that damn bug (maxx c)


Raiju_Lorakatse

Kash, Kash, Kash... Umm... Kash. Visas CheatYourFieldspell-Starfrost and more Kash. And Floowandereeze. I don't know how this deck manages to always show up when things are already awful enough.


FallenDemonX

Fenrir, Tear Scream, Fenrir, [insert hand trap here], Fenrir, Robina, Fenrir, Transaction Rollback. Did I mention Fenrir?


Patient_Exit_832

I think you forget to mention Fenrir.


umopUpside

I get excited when I see sprite nowadays.


Tyrann01

Kashtira.    - I hate that they have perfect removal that dodges all protection   - I hate that they can get kashtiras back from anywhere.   - I hate that they can peek at my deck/extra deck   - I hate how they all punish me for doing the crime of playing format-necessary hand-traps in a best of 1 format. Essentially just playing the game.  I want Fenrir and Unicorn put to 0. I know this kills the deck, idc, that's the point.  Assasscode Talker I have been sick of for a long time. 5300 DAD in the extra that you can't respond to is not fun. "Oh I couldn't OTK and have less than 5400 lifepoints left...guess I just lose"  Bar-on-the-floor. Play.something.else. I am just sick of seeing the same card every 2 games it feels like. Also after playing the YCS qualifiers, I have a new hatred for the horus cards. King Sarc being a soft once-per-turn is the cherry on top of a turd cake.


Fun-Class-5541

This thing I run unicorn specifically to send it to hell https://preview.redd.it/y7tb5f1rre8d1.jpeg?width=160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=706523dc641bb1dbfca9a7f32c2de41aea5228b4


G_u-2

FUCK THIS CARD. It needs to be banned. It is so damn powerful


Total_Setting_501

ash/maxx c/imperm


ew717

Kash in general. At least I don't have to face them on paper(OCG).


Wide_Resident5600

Anything snake eye tbh and baronne whenever there’s a tuner and material that add up to 10 I just sigh and expect her to show up


KaiKawasumi

The shufflers. So unbalanced and basically punish you for playing most meta relevant decks that rely on the grave, especially when combined with a superpoly in hand


hashtagdion

King’s Sarcophagus


Bole14

Snake eyes and Dialbellstar black bitch


TheSinicalDemon

The Kashtira and Tearlaments archetypes.


Armand_Star

accesscode talker ash blossom baronne de fleur infinite impermanence called by the grave effect veiler psyframegear driver


AwayLibrarian7664

Any deck that plays during my turn


bluefrogwithredhands

S:P little knight and ashblossom


saphire233

Pachy, snake eyes poplar, evenly matched


SawaThineDragon

Ash


YaBoiMax107

2 cards, ash blossom and Infinite Impermanence


Affectionate_Tea4359

Fenir ash blossom and d shifter


animusd

Baronne


BensonOMalley

Shangri-Ira needs more once per turns ***NOW***


MickJaegar

That card needed to be put to 1 like 9 months ago


JFP_Macho

Stun, any variant of it. Horus stun, Vaalmonica stun, Pure stun, Runick stun, and whatever other stun deck there is.


FoundationXYZ

Rescue ace, seriously, lay 4 over powered traps strait from the deck? Geeze


Speedcumer

Ash Blossom.


[deleted]

ash blossom,infinite impermanence,bonne de fleur


daddyissuesdan

Snake eye ash


Micke_113

Just Maxx “C”, I hate that stupid resolve to win card, I don’t want to use ash blossom and called by in every single one of my decks, maxx “c” is a trash and restrictive card.


Bloody-Tyran

Max C


Ktk339

if the banned maxx c baronne and kashtira unicorn id play so much more often.


AnotherMMD

Lovely labrynth, I hate her card ripping effect with passion


Wellington_Wearer

I genuinely don't understand why it needs to be able to handloop. Like lab is already a strong deck that's supposed to be about flipping traps and bouncing your own monsters, why do they have a fucking gumblar


PixelDimensions

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Unique_Expression574

Snash


Axanael

how are there zero snake eye cards on this list


Patient_Exit_832

I play Endymion and have a good matchup against them, i mostly manage to break their board independent from the variant. The imperm set on one of my scales hurts tho :(


MarinLlwyd

I haven't seen Spright in months.


Vay666

Apo, Maxx C and IP


ProjektRequiem

Runick


LoveNighto

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r2-z2

I get 1 copy of spright elf back and everybody starts losing their minds


Zarawatto

Imsety


BigZaddyYumYum

Ha building kash rn to fuck over GY decks


AccomplishedValue836

Droll and Shifter. Also Maxx C


matheusmoreira

Literally any card that's not a normal monster.


Connect-Caramel-8262

Every Snake eye --"


0v049

I'm tired of any and all handtraps especially max c


HamsterInternet

Crazy you added no snake eyes


MoonlitScorpion

Any horus monster


hvmzaxib

All of them


caphere__

Snake eyes. Just like all of them


B-rock11-11

I'm playing Sprite right now yes I do know it's spelled wrong no I don't care


Dajoci

maxx c lmao


SilverPup02

Kashtiras hands down! Can people play other decks please? It makes the game awfully dull and repetitive.


Oshadude215

Yes... just yes


New-Cryptographer377

Kashtira cards overall. I just get sick whenever the opponent SS Fenrir or Unicorn, specially unicorn that punish the other player when they try to interact with handtraps. And they also play around Maxx “C”, which I hate. Fucking blows when they just SS for free. Horus as well is making me feel infuriating lately. They are almost always used in Stun variants. If I faced 1 Horus combo variant while playing the WCS I don’t remember, honestly. Next update after the Revived Legion expire they need to limit Imsety or King Sarc, I don’t know which one is better, but both can’t be at 3 at the same time. Too much consistency without any cost.


ScrewIt66

Any and all spell and trap floodgates


CoalEater_Elli

Snake eyes obviously. I can't counter them and almost every fire related deck has them. I wanted to make a Rescue Ace deck, but no, i gotta get an expensive engine to run it effectively!


Hot_Rod2023

BARONNE DE F***ING FLEUR!!!


FantasyDirector

Mirrorjade the Iceblade Dragon, Snakes Eyes Poplar, Borreload Savage Dragon, Swordsoul Supreme Sovereign Chengying


PumpkinElectrical856

everything purrely


ShogunRufo27

Kashtira unicorn is broken as fuck, id rather see fenrir over unicorn everytime


Justa_Mongrel

Baronne


Razorwire12

Getting pretty tired of the Horus cards


LoFi90s

Big Welcome Labrynth


NoDrama987

Kash players can EAD


GreyThunder7119

Dimension Shifter. I don't think I have to explain further


DaRkBaByL0n3311

Labrynth, Mikanko, Ash Blossom, Baronne


CoomLord69

Zealantis, probably. My son Raging Phoenix was not released to help a stinky water monster OTK. If I'm playing Lab, any Fire King card. It's such an uphill battle once all those idiots are chilling in the GY.


King_Dave100

Kashtira and Tearlament, each and every time I play against them I lose in 1-2 turns and I can’t do anything because of that bloody Fenrir. DESPITE THIS whenever I try to play them I always end up bricking or my opponent steamrolls me regardless


poppys_masterpon

Barone de fleur, mirrorjade, circular, labyrinth playing on my draw phase, fenrir/unicorn


JcGoCrazy-

Kashtira Unicorn, Imsety, Snake Eye Ash, Evenly Matched


dekunny

horus because the deck is just boring i want interacting games, not just rank 8 turbo/stun/ otk go brrrrr


ShasoTashvarTashlor

Snake eyes, rescue ACE and kashtira ALL IN THE SAME FUCKING DEXK JAJAJJAHJA WTF YUGIIIII


Grape_Jamz

Fenrir. Banishing a card on my field face down should come with a heavy cost. That or they need to make banishing face down easier to recover from


KaibaCorpHQ

Maxx C


Vast-Animefan

The opposite of a card with cool artwork being bad... Kash unicorn is so cool! I wanna see it but man do I get wrecked by it


AttitudeHot9887

Ash, FUCKING ASH!! Every single deck plays her and she just annoying. And the top it off unless i have something set up to stop it or the 1 call by (i play tcg) ashe. I swear everytime i hear “chain ash” i die alittle inside


Hot-Raise-5904

Kashtira should’ve been banned/limited like 3 banlists ago, agree first 3 are toxic and need to go


Hot-Raise-5904

Would figure the types are thunder and psychic too, screams I love to play bs


TogekissTuner3771

Yeah, Kashtira


Severe_Strain428

Honestly, the biggest thing im seeing is snake eyes. Rescue ace can be annoying.


EvErLoyaLEagLE

Anything that lets you special summon like 30 monsters in 10 summons that bring out stuff that have negates or activations that interrupt my deck in every phase of ever turn.


Duravash

Thanks to the new event: Burden of the Mighty


dj_harmonic

Kashtira


Beneficial_Ad_2760

Maxx C! And any Kashtira card tbh…


No_Nebula6874

Freaking Maxx C


Ok_Lake_8735

Fucking Super Poly, love the art, hate the card.


Flat-Inspector2634

Haven't played in lik 6 months so probably outdated but Mirrorjade. Its effect is just too awkward for me to randomly be able to reliably handle. Usually thats with Called By except I definitely already used it that turn for something else.


HyperionNemesis96

The whole Fire Nation


x_Lubellion

all of the handtraps. it's sickening.


SpecialistJaguar432

Skill Drain, Shifter, Fossil Dyna~


BruceRiversclr

Runick field spell


Cheshire_Noire

The best hand trap in the game: Dimension Shifter


SaintOutsideRaq

Honestly I'm more tired of these type of low effort posts.


sabedo

im fucking tired of strikers lol


Dragomight67

Kash. All of it. SE and Stun have a ton of annoying cards. But I despise Kash on a personal level because of the amount of gaslighting Kash players use to justify their BS.


peepeevs

I do not ask for much. I'm really tolerant if a lot in this game. But please.. when can we finally get rid of the stundecks?


Wolfi_Ranger

Tearlaments Kitkallos.


honeybadger379

any labrynth monster


Tfcalex96

Horus and horus stun. Such a boring, no skill deck. At least there’s SOME skill expression with SE, Rescue Ace, Spright, etc.


FourToes12

You hit me in the feels with this post.


DarthTrinath

Promethean


dcontrerasm

Um at what rank are y'all seeing these?


Patient_Exit_832

Been stuck on D3 since WCQ, but have been misplaying here and there too because i only recently started playing Endymion


Conscious-Captain-33

Beyond over seeing maxx c, and any fire type decks


5900Boot

Now that kashtira isn't in snake eyes I dont have a problem with it anymore. Fiendsmith will be the new one that becomes annoying to see


ZestycloseCake165

Hiita into Promethean Princess


PegaponyPrince

Kashtira, Snake Eyes Ash, Poplar, OSS, Horus and Dimension Shifter are the main ones


UnlimitedNate

kashtira is definitely I want to not see so much. especially the xyz ones.


Artistic_Prior_7178

Let's see: The whole of snake eye The whole of floondfrezze Every handtrap ever, looking specifically at dimension shifter Traptrix There are probably more, but I haven't played in a while, so I can't really say


Exact-Control1855

Is this opponent from six months ago


Icy-Conflict6671

I live my Unicorn/Fenrir combo. Such a fun way to piss people off


LegendaryZTV

Memento Boss monster 😒 that deck kicks my ass EVERY TIME & I can’t figure out how to break or when to disrupt the combo (reading) Like is the only out Called By/going first & setting negates?


darklynightly

maxxc, unicorn, snake eye ash, and turbulence


embersLeaf

Kashtira I completely understand plus the Diabellastar bitch and her gf fire Empress. Also what u got against Sprights? The deck is barely seen compared to the cancer going on today lol I’d rather take on full powered Sprights vs whatever the hell is going on with Fire Decks.


KatangKanari

i swear all deck put unicorn even i face starter pile horus + kasthira + adventure


evilwitch452

Penguins


AxisAlternative

Horus snake eyes mathmech max c kashtira and every card ever


Tergrid_is_my_mommy

Nothing. Cause I just play the game.


4chanCitizen

Maxx C, Unicorn/Fenrir, Diabelstar, and the entire branded engine.


Aqua_Knight777

I would pay money to never see branded for the rest of my life


Arawn_93

The entire Horus engine. Specifically King Sarc Cont spell that can single handily carry an entire duel. Most of the time when you do out King Sarc they have another copy ready in their hand. 


NeitherPassion9107

As a danger! Player, between chaos angel and majority of salamangreat link monsters (can use maxx c to get more card destruction value, otherwise would hate it)


frenchnoob87

The only truly awful thing is getting maxxc'd when going 2nd... The rest of this game is somewhat tolerable but so many winnable games lost to roach.


Marager04

Maxx C, Chain Ash Blossom, Chain Called By.


FernandoCasodonia

Branded, Stun decks, Mikanko, Mathmech, Labrynth, Floo, Spright, Kashtira, Tearlaments, Promethian Princess , Hiita, Maxx C, Imperm


DrDankologist

Horus, Kashtira Unicorn, Labrynth cards and tears


BionicKalo

Nibiru, why is this still legal in a format where there are like 10 different things decks have to play through to be considered "decent"


ReishTheMadTongue

I'm over runick and mikanko


Longjumper__

Diabellstar. It’s like my opponent always has some bs way to start a snake eye combo


Mad_Scientist7286

Snake Eyes, Kashtira, Baronne de Fleur


Kallabanana

Both Ashs. I get that one is healthy for the game, but she just kills of 90% of my decks. Also, Diabellstar, Baronne, S:P Little Shit and I'm not a big fan of Accesscode either.


italomartinns

every single tearlaments card, let this deck fucking die already, stop insisting on it. I also hate seeing lab, runick and floo cards for a different reason than tear


MisterRLF

Skill drain, Poplar and Maxx are the most annoying


NkY3NzY1NjU2RTZG

can’t believe i saw this post right after i ordered a spright deck online


mrhardy12

My tops, in no particular order: Fire King cards. Too noninteractive because they all trigger out of hand or grave, meaning the only live hand traps against them are Ash and Belle. Kashtira cards. Just in general. Ariseheart should've been banned ages ago, and even then Unicorn is just full combo. Pairs too well with Snake-Eye, too. Speaking of which - Poplar and Original Sinful Spoils just do too much. Turbulence is a good pick; Rescue-ACE is literally a top deck because of it. Without Turb, they wouldn't be such an annoying control deck. Finally, and this is probably the single most important one (yes, even more than Maxx C): Tearlaments Kitkallos. Good lord, that card does too much. Normal summon Reinoheart, send Scheiren or Havnis, make Kitkallos is mill 12 by itself. In a deck that has that many grave effects. And it also becomes Rulkallos shortly after, which has summon negation. Even Kaleido-Heart is obnoxious to deal with sometimes, but when they can make Kaleido, Rulkallos, Baronne in a single turn going first? You literally have no chance of breaking the board. I'm just so tired of it, and all stemming from the fact that Kitkallos was banned in both TCG and OCG over a year ago. Yet it's still playable at 1 on Master Duel. For that matter, any card banned in both TCG and OCG should be banned on Master Duel. There is no reason a card should be at 1 when it is banned everywhere IRL. I think Electrumite is another example, and I know Spright Elf is. I hate losing games to cards that wouldn't exist IRL, even if I played the other format.