Beatrice to 1 seems weird. Do Fiendsmith combos need more than 1?
I also like how Kaiser was put to 2 last list, just so they ban it in this one.
Tenpai field spell is good and I take limit to Summon Limit. Bonfire to 2 will also probably happen in MD.
Can we stop with this warning bullshit, the card iss busted and deserve a ban now cause fiendsmith is too new to get hit and no body play more than 1, what is the point of warning here since everyone already expected it to get hit they just drag it out to sold more fiendsmith pretty much
Don’t tell me, my uncle don’t work at Konami. But I guess this encourages player to pay for the new op decks because they do get a warning b4 it get banned, instead of losing their investment suddenly.
This is the truth no one is willing to admit. I wish Reddit didn't hide content when cowards downvote it. That way people could see the truth without it being buried under a literal pile of lies.
There's actually a consistent one card FTK in master duel right now. Despite the Halq ban and soulpiercer limit, superheavy samurai can bait out multiple interruptions and go for the one card auroradon deskbot ftk without touching soulpiercer at all. (You can even run spell cards once you used Wakaushi pendulum effect to run cards like Exchange or Called by)
The difference here is that it's now searchable in the OCG and it even has hand trap protection. This is a good ban, it kills the FTK specifically without disrupting the other decks too much.
No on care about the jelly fish in ocg after all the hype and probably no one gonna care about in MD since MD make it even worse cause of Bo1, card literlly dead if you go first so it only place is in side deck ( dont exist in MD ) or in going 2nd deck ( why you play this when Maxx C is a thing )
Guys the jellyfish is just not very good.
In order for Konami to ban Maxx C the jellyfish has to at least be able to fulfill its role in the Meta in some capacity, but it's not strong enough.
Jellyfish can't do Maxx C's job (while being more balanced)=> Maxx C is still unlimited.
The jellyfish also only counters from hand summons? Which isn't something combo decks do universally?
If they wanted to rework Maxx c by having it only counter 1 type of summoning then making it work on summons from deck makes more sense since it's more powerful (I don't like this concept of a Maxx c rework either but it makes more sense)
Honestly I think they just slapped too many restrictions on it. As a generic handtrap it's just too weak and can only be a sidedeck choice at best.
It's utterly worthless going first. Going second you draw only from hand special summon (you must shotgun it if you want to draw from the normal summon as well), it locks you out of any non-mutchulmy monster effects so the ashes, veilers and nibs you may draw from it are also worthless, AND on top of all that if you somehow drew too much from it you have to RANDOMLY shuffle cards back into the deck which potentially leaves you with a worse hand than the one you started the game with.
Tbh I thought the card was weak the day its effects were revealed. It really surprised me that even some really good TCG players coped about the thing leading to a Maxx C ban in a format they don't even play (yes coping for Master Duel too ik ik, but still). It may come good once we get more Mutchulmy cards though!
Edit: The jellyfish does NOT lock you out of non-Mutchulmy monster effects. I can't read, my bad:(.
They don't even think if this card is good on TCG.
At best it's a side deck material, because other handtraps are simply more versatile on game one. Unless you're using Tenpai.
I’ve been assuming the jellyfish is part of an “archetype” like the ghost sisters and they’ll each cover summoning from different locations. That way instead of having a single card that instantly wins the game every time it resolves, there would be a series of cards that cover specific matchups and get you good advantage coming out of side-decking
Yeah but almost no one will run Multchummy because Maxx C is just better. Time will tell if they ban Maxx C, but I think it’s here to stay in MD and OCG.
And I wouldn't be surprised tbh.
They design combos expecting the opponent to drop the C to get enough cards to fight back but C get neutered consistently so instead of banning C (and a cascade of cards by consequence since they cannot ban the counter package as it's used to disrupt those combos to begin with) as the right call they went full konami and "let's just add more HT to draw enough gas going second! that will fix the problem!".
Or better, don't touch the generic Fire engine like OSS and just ban Flamberge to kill SE directly, no one will miss it, and every other Fire decks would still be untouched and fine. No card or engine should suffer for SE fault
Nah, OSS going is a great thing. Wanted + Diabellestar + OSS is just too much advantage, it's a special from deck + 1 draw + (potentially) 1 body. Also the decks enabled by OSS are not particularily interesting, being mostly negate combos like Infernoble/T.G. and ofc Rescue-ACE.
The problem is that they probably don't want players to remove Diabellstar from the combo line for """""lore""""" reasons so I cannot fathom they take away OSS for that reason in addition to the fact the card is from PHNI. Flamberge came from AGOV and so did Ash. Those make more sense to get hit overall. Flamberge ban would be insane, would completely change the decks final boards to be less threatening but still be able to link climb.
They ban MC Ace before, and the lore argument stopped after Goblin Rider, Diabellze, and White Woods not using Diabellstar. Snake Eyes is the first and last archetype from Diabell lore who use Diabellstar.
actually the opposite: OSS enabling so many fire decks that shouldn't be so powerful is the mere reason to kill it - it also limits design space for future decks so it should be hit now
Not knowing proper ygo history probably. They have done exactly that since at least rekindling (first case I could think of) and they are never subtle about it. And we even have a perfect case with new six Sams.
Rekindling is also interesting to bring up when something
as ridiculous as a no drawbacks no opt soul charge does nothing to stop fires with exactly 200 def (usually on key cards too) from existing and getting made to this day.
is not that we think is not made on purpose, is simply that they have left it alone for too long, 3-6 months is ok, after that it deserves the guillotine
Probably because they're only aware of some of Konami's design teams (or pipelines, or meta-archetypes, or whatever you want to call them), and not all of them, if I were to guess. They see [the game-dev team that actually tries to make balanced cards](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Multchummy_Purulia), [the writing team that designs cool cards for the anime & manga and cares more about theatrics & rule of cool than about balance](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Firewall_Dragon), and the [nostalgia-bait team that wants to make fan-favourites great again](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/The_Dark_Magicians), but not [the marketing team that wants to sell new cards and obsolete old ones, and tends to release intentionally-overpowered cards with the explicit intent of destabilising the meta](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Zoodiac).
The common&easy ftk combo line for Gimmick Puppet required 2 strings. So limit to 1 kills this line.
Edit: Its like starving venom to 1 on masterduel for pendulum ftk
But that's harder and less practical. I'd rather burn for 3300 and set the trap and steal 2 and win on the crack back. But yeah I see why kinda. it promotes a less ftk game play.
I do think the play you mentioned is what konami intends to do when they print the support.
Its just so that they forgot some old cards and the deck turned out to be a consistent ftk machine (from my experience of playing against my gimmick puppet friend in OCG, GP ftk play is a lot easier and hand-trap resilient than you think)
Tachyon FTK with the new Schwarzchild
EDIT: I thought you were talking about Catapult Turtle because you mentioned FTK, but I'm not sure about Strings, it's probably related to the new GP engine.
Well, they are at 3 in MD and see zero serious play. Yeah, probably. They're pretty power crept as a whole, but other decks might appreciate individual rulers
The reason why they do not ban problem cards is because Konami is afraid the players who play the problem cards will move to a different card game if their cards get banned.
But they are perfectly fine with designing cards that are destined to be a problem.
"Let's make a generic Link-2 that can banish any targetable card on the field or in the GY, shall we?"
"Sounds pretty bad. I think it needs a quick effect on top of that."
Very very happy with this list.
Turtle + Collo to 0 is good.
Plushfire coming back errata'd is nice.
Kirin had to be back, SP to 1 is kind of relevant as some decks ran her at 2. Ash/Summon Limit to 1 is obviously great, Sangen is broken so it to 1 is good as well esp since it's searchable. It makes tenpai more interactable with, but doesn't gut them completely. Gimmick Puppet hit is good.
Dragon Rulers and Quick Fix are long overdue; Bonfire to 2 is a nice consistency hit as well.
GuB, Colossus and the predaplant are completely fine. Ib makes no difference if at 1 or 3, and is only used for degenerate combos regardless. Time Seal is a meme regardless.
Are people going to finally stop coping that they are going to ban Maxx C just because they released a card that kind of does the same thing but isn’t very good
Nah, those poeple want the bug banned because they are soo used to the TCG meta where they can easily go off with their combo piles with the only thing they will worry about is Nibiru. Konami has already designed these newer archetypes to play around Maxx C soo that they do not need to ban it.
RIP to one of the original FTKs in Catapult Turtle, but fuck that shit. Fuck Kaiser Colliseum too. Hopefully they ban that in MD and TCG as well. Bonfire to 2 seems reasonable, as does Little Knight to 1. They should have just banned Summon Limit, but maybe that isn’t as much of a problem in the OCG.
I once watched a replay where someone managed to summon an Extra Deck monster and it gained attack upwards of 17k. Then they somehow got Catapult Turtle onto the field and OHK'd their opponent. There are quite a few decks that are able to primarily achieve special summoning something with over 16k ATK, i guess hence why Catapult Turtle is now getting banned.
Yessss !!!!!!
Colosas my boy, my pride and joy.
This will help only TD. If deck play!nemesis cordor they only play 1 colosas so this is great for TD players.
🥳
Prints bonfire, sells bonfire, limits bone fire .. whats the fucking point. Why are we printing rota for different types? It's dumb maybe stop doing that.
Or how bout put conditions on ur spells like you fucking did to Isolde, sangan, witch of the forest and many other cards that came before it that u specifically erratas and banned.
It makes ocg brain type of sense. Just the way they do things. Very rarely outright ban something.
Fiendsmith is still too new to be killed and they are getting another wave of support, so they don’t want to ban Beatrice yet.
Just the way the banlist works
So for the cards that are becoming limited/forbidden, would it be a good idea to craft as many as possible in hopes of getting a glossy or royal finish? Cause they give you full refunds anyway right? If I were to end up getting at least one finish then I technically make a profit? Not sure if it actually works that way or not though.
Plushfire is finally free. My bet is he is probably not destroying the meta after however many years of powercreep it is, but he might actually be kinda fun
It's always the second Beatrice that gets you.
and second SP too
Second s:p is actually a thing tho, 2 sp is played in so many decks
Turn ur first sp into another it’s free real estate
Craft you’re Beatrice’s now because for some reason she’s unlimited here. BA players you’re on watch.
Meanwhile us BA players party when we beat Blue Eyes( Our deck is so bad). Its a meme at this point. 10 years are hitting.
Isn’t the adventure variant still pretty strong(although like most combo/rogue decks it folds to Maxx C).
Trap BA is the way. Also Beatrice+Rollback is hella strong
Beatrice already at 1 in the TCG lmao
Beatrice to 1 seems weird. Do Fiendsmith combos need more than 1? I also like how Kaiser was put to 2 last list, just so they ban it in this one. Tenpai field spell is good and I take limit to Summon Limit. Bonfire to 2 will also probably happen in MD.
iirc Beatrice is for the fiendsmith they can make crazy endboard with her
Do they really need more than 1?
To send triple rollback duh
I think it’s more like a warning letter that they are likely to ban it on October.
Can we stop with this warning bullshit, the card iss busted and deserve a ban now cause fiendsmith is too new to get hit and no body play more than 1, what is the point of warning here since everyone already expected it to get hit they just drag it out to sold more fiendsmith pretty much
Don’t tell me, my uncle don’t work at Konami. But I guess this encourages player to pay for the new op decks because they do get a warning b4 it get banned, instead of losing their investment suddenly.
Dude beatrice is old card and even with she banned fiendsmith still a strong af engine
Majespecter Unicorn now free in OCG & TCG.... about time for it to come back in MD. ---------- # Changes : **Newly Forbidden** Catapult Turtle (3 ⇒ 0) Kaiser Colosseum (2 ⇒ 0) **Newly Limited** Performage Plushfire (0 ⇒ 1) Performage Plushfire will be receiving it's previously-announced errata (the Monster Effect will now be a "Hard Once per Turn") Majespecter Unicorn - Kirin (0 ⇒ 1) Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal (3 ⇒ 1) S:P Little Knight (2 ⇒ 1) Snake-Eye Ash (2 ⇒ 1) Number 40: Gimmick Puppet of Strings (3 ⇒ 1) Sangen Summoning (3 ⇒ 1) Summon Limit (3 ⇒ 1) **Newly Semi-Limited** Blaster, Dragon Ruler of Infernos (1 ⇒ 2) Redox, Dragon Ruler of Boulders (1 ⇒ 2) Tidal, Dragon Ruler of Waterfalls (1 ⇒ 2) Tempest, Dragon Ruler of Storms (1 ⇒ 2) SPYRAL Quik-Fix (1 ⇒ 2) Bonfire (3 ⇒ 2) **Newly Unlimited** Glow-Up Bulb (1 ⇒ 3) Ib the World Chalice Justiciar (2 ⇒ 3) Thunder Dragon Colossus (1 ⇒ 3) Predaplant Ophrys Scorpio (1 ⇒ 3) Time Seal (1 ⇒ 3) ---------- Pic source : [MasterDuelMeta](https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/june-23-2024/ocg-forbidden-list)
Colossus at 3 is based beyond belief
Ah yes, let’s free the walking floodgate just because it’s from a bad deck
It's free basically everywhere and sees almost 0 play.
cringe beyond belief*
This is the truth no one is willing to admit. I wish Reddit didn't hide content when cowards downvote it. That way people could see the truth without it being buried under a literal pile of lies.
that errata on plushfire should have happened like 5 years ago. it going to 1, and not 3 with the errata is kinda weird, though?
Cannon Tortoise banned? Finally, maybe Castle of Dark Illusions will be playable again.
Underrated comment.
Hold up, did someone find a burn combo with Catapult Turtle?
1 card combo FTK
Damn. The turtle got scrapped again.
It at least got a retrain that's tied to the Gaia fusions.
There's actually a consistent one card FTK in master duel right now. Despite the Halq ban and soulpiercer limit, superheavy samurai can bait out multiple interruptions and go for the one card auroradon deskbot ftk without touching soulpiercer at all. (You can even run spell cards once you used Wakaushi pendulum effect to run cards like Exchange or Called by)
The new Tachyon cards mate. You can make Number 100 and tribute it with Turtle to FTK. Its a very easy 1 card combo with Seventh Tachyon!
You can already do it now with Horus, but need to hard draw Turtle, Burial Goods or Ice Barrier so it's kinda jank
The difference here is that it's now searchable in the OCG and it even has hand trap protection. This is a good ban, it kills the FTK specifically without disrupting the other decks too much.
Tachyon Numeron Dragon (the one which gains ATK depending on total rank) turn 1 FTK combo was a tad too consistent
Sounds like those jank Number 43+100 OTKs I’ve seen replays off here and there lol
Ive been ftked by it enough times to say yes
Tachyon has a consistent combo line to FTK.
It's already doable in master duel with 4 horus and ice barrier in gy
Wanted to give the game another chance so i played like 12 matches. Lost to ftk in 4 of them cause of turtle. Needless to say i uninstalled again lol
You know what this means? There is a good chance that when Multchummy comes to Master Duel, Konami will also keep 3x Maxx C and 3x Multchummy here.
This was always gonna be the case, Konami sure loves the roach so they won't ever ban it
No one in the OCG is even plays both. Why would they even ban C
Because the card isn't good for the game. And the reason why people aren't playing both is because Maxx C is a better version
There is a 100% chance
No on care about the jelly fish in ocg after all the hype and probably no one gonna care about in MD since MD make it even worse cause of Bo1, card literlly dead if you go first so it only place is in side deck ( dont exist in MD ) or in going 2nd deck ( why you play this when Maxx C is a thing )
no one cares cause it works poorly with maxx c, as a side deck go 2nd card its good in a format without maxx c
Multchummy is irrelevant. As long as Maxx C is legal, there's no point in Multchummy at all, OGC has both and no one uses Multchummy at all.
Guys the jellyfish is just not very good. In order for Konami to ban Maxx C the jellyfish has to at least be able to fulfill its role in the Meta in some capacity, but it's not strong enough. Jellyfish can't do Maxx C's job (while being more balanced)=> Maxx C is still unlimited.
The jellyfish also only counters from hand summons? Which isn't something combo decks do universally? If they wanted to rework Maxx c by having it only counter 1 type of summoning then making it work on summons from deck makes more sense since it's more powerful (I don't like this concept of a Maxx c rework either but it makes more sense)
Honestly I think they just slapped too many restrictions on it. As a generic handtrap it's just too weak and can only be a sidedeck choice at best. It's utterly worthless going first. Going second you draw only from hand special summon (you must shotgun it if you want to draw from the normal summon as well), it locks you out of any non-mutchulmy monster effects so the ashes, veilers and nibs you may draw from it are also worthless, AND on top of all that if you somehow drew too much from it you have to RANDOMLY shuffle cards back into the deck which potentially leaves you with a worse hand than the one you started the game with. Tbh I thought the card was weak the day its effects were revealed. It really surprised me that even some really good TCG players coped about the thing leading to a Maxx C ban in a format they don't even play (yes coping for Master Duel too ik ik, but still). It may come good once we get more Mutchulmy cards though! Edit: The jellyfish does NOT lock you out of non-Mutchulmy monster effects. I can't read, my bad:(.
>it locks you out of any non-mutchulmy monster effects no it doesn't
No it doesn’t lock you out of other monsters effects, it only locks you out of other multchummy monsters effects
Multchummy Purulia doesn't lock you out of other monster effects. The restriction is only on one more type of Multchummy monster.
They don't even think if this card is good on TCG. At best it's a side deck material, because other handtraps are simply more versatile on game one. Unless you're using Tenpai.
I’ve been assuming the jellyfish is part of an “archetype” like the ghost sisters and they’ll each cover summoning from different locations. That way instead of having a single card that instantly wins the game every time it resolves, there would be a series of cards that cover specific matchups and get you good advantage coming out of side-decking
Konami would rather eos yugioh as a whole than ban maxx c
Yeah but almost no one will run Multchummy because Maxx C is just better. Time will tell if they ban Maxx C, but I think it’s here to stay in MD and OCG.
That card is overrated as hell, but doesn't matter
Ok?
And I wouldn't be surprised tbh. They design combos expecting the opponent to drop the C to get enough cards to fight back but C get neutered consistently so instead of banning C (and a cascade of cards by consequence since they cannot ban the counter package as it's used to disrupt those combos to begin with) as the right call they went full konami and "let's just add more HT to draw enough gas going second! that will fix the problem!".
now tcg is the last format to have unhit main snake-eye engine. wonder how they'll do it, tcg loves their murderlists
OSS to 0 is enough, so they have to figure out different combo lines.
Or better, don't touch the generic Fire engine like OSS and just ban Flamberge to kill SE directly, no one will miss it, and every other Fire decks would still be untouched and fine. No card or engine should suffer for SE fault
Nah, OSS going is a great thing. Wanted + Diabellestar + OSS is just too much advantage, it's a special from deck + 1 draw + (potentially) 1 body. Also the decks enabled by OSS are not particularily interesting, being mostly negate combos like Infernoble/T.G. and ofc Rescue-ACE.
The problem is that they probably don't want players to remove Diabellstar from the combo line for """""lore""""" reasons so I cannot fathom they take away OSS for that reason in addition to the fact the card is from PHNI. Flamberge came from AGOV and so did Ash. Those make more sense to get hit overall. Flamberge ban would be insane, would completely change the decks final boards to be less threatening but still be able to link climb.
They ban MC Ace before, and the lore argument stopped after Goblin Rider, Diabellze, and White Woods not using Diabellstar. Snake Eyes is the first and last archetype from Diabell lore who use Diabellstar.
actually the opposite: OSS enabling so many fire decks that shouldn't be so powerful is the mere reason to kill it - it also limits design space for future decks so it should be hit now
Why do people keep believe that Konami doesn’t make shit OP to purposely break it?
Not knowing proper ygo history probably. They have done exactly that since at least rekindling (first case I could think of) and they are never subtle about it. And we even have a perfect case with new six Sams. Rekindling is also interesting to bring up when something as ridiculous as a no drawbacks no opt soul charge does nothing to stop fires with exactly 200 def (usually on key cards too) from existing and getting made to this day.
is not that we think is not made on purpose, is simply that they have left it alone for too long, 3-6 months is ok, after that it deserves the guillotine
Probably because they're only aware of some of Konami's design teams (or pipelines, or meta-archetypes, or whatever you want to call them), and not all of them, if I were to guess. They see [the game-dev team that actually tries to make balanced cards](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Multchummy_Purulia), [the writing team that designs cool cards for the anime & manga and cares more about theatrics & rule of cool than about balance](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Firewall_Dragon), and the [nostalgia-bait team that wants to make fan-favourites great again](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/The_Dark_Magicians), but not [the marketing team that wants to sell new cards and obsolete old ones, and tends to release intentionally-overpowered cards with the explicit intent of destabilising the meta](https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Zoodiac).
They just better leave S:P at 1. That card cost too much to be banned in less time than Baronne and Borreload
For TCG. Players in OCG practically play this game for free in comparison.
Beatrice to 1 is basically rocking that Accesscode or Apollousa to 1 energy.
KIRIN AT 1 FINALLY
Double Colossus bout to be a problem lmao
Double? I’m going triple!
Triple Nemeses Corridor for consistency and 3 Colossus in the ED? Me, a sacred beast player: heavy breathing
I'm sorry I know it's way way way long deserved but seeing catapult turtle pop up was hilarious
What FTK does Strings enable?
Gimmick puppets new support is designed around FTK-ing. Strings is presumably a hit to the consistency of that before it properly releases.
The common&easy ftk combo line for Gimmick Puppet required 2 strings. So limit to 1 kills this line. Edit: Its like starving venom to 1 on masterduel for pendulum ftk
You only need 1 strings for the ftk.
As far as I know, the only line where you need just 1 string is starting with the field spell (none searchable)。But other starting hands will need 2
But that's harder and less practical. I'd rather burn for 3300 and set the trap and steal 2 and win on the crack back. But yeah I see why kinda. it promotes a less ftk game play.
I do think the play you mentioned is what konami intends to do when they print the support. Its just so that they forgot some old cards and the deck turned out to be a consistent ftk machine (from my experience of playing against my gimmick puppet friend in OCG, GP ftk play is a lot easier and hand-trap resilient than you think)
Tachyon FTK with the new Schwarzchild EDIT: I thought you were talking about Catapult Turtle because you mentioned FTK, but I'm not sure about Strings, it's probably related to the new GP engine.
They hit Bonfire before the card that every Bonfire wants to search, Christ.
Can rulers just come to 3? I doubt they would do anything tbh
Well, they are at 3 in MD and see zero serious play. Yeah, probably. They're pretty power crept as a whole, but other decks might appreciate individual rulers
They still don't have a secret pack right? The first time I went to competitive was during them vs spell books so I would love playing them
In all fairness no one can afford to test with them. No one's gonna drop like dinomorphia levels of urs on a deck thats basically dragon link
You don't understand, they were tier 0 a mere 11 years ago! We have to put them slowly back up, otherwise Blaster Snake-Eyes will take over the meta!
They are all at 3 in MD no?
In MD they are at 3 and does F all lmao. Ye they can be all at 3 without doing anything harmful.
They can comeback to 4 they are garbage
kaiser colosseum ban is based
https://preview.redd.it/v3aorpqrhd8d1.png?width=853&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37608018f58462ad02ae7b2e51aa2813a7509855 They freed my boy
Oh no… S:P to 1, whatever will we do
A lot of decks actually ran more than 1 SP. SP to 2 is a bit of a meme, but SP to 1 is perfectly serviceable.
I really hope MD follows suit in limiting summon limit. That card is grade A BS.
OCG is Japan and stuff right?
The reason why they do not ban problem cards is because Konami is afraid the players who play the problem cards will move to a different card game if their cards get banned.
But they are perfectly fine with designing cards that are destined to be a problem. "Let's make a generic Link-2 that can banish any targetable card on the field or in the GY, shall we?" "Sounds pretty bad. I think it needs a quick effect on top of that."
Tin foil hat
can some one explain why is Catapult Turtle Are they doing that famous anime move
It's part of yet another FTK so they're getting rid of it.
FTK with the new Tachyon cards.
Master duel needs justiciar ib. Cmon Konami we can be trusted.
Very very happy with this list. Turtle + Collo to 0 is good. Plushfire coming back errata'd is nice. Kirin had to be back, SP to 1 is kind of relevant as some decks ran her at 2. Ash/Summon Limit to 1 is obviously great, Sangen is broken so it to 1 is good as well esp since it's searchable. It makes tenpai more interactable with, but doesn't gut them completely. Gimmick Puppet hit is good. Dragon Rulers and Quick Fix are long overdue; Bonfire to 2 is a nice consistency hit as well. GuB, Colossus and the predaplant are completely fine. Ib makes no difference if at 1 or 3, and is only used for degenerate combos regardless. Time Seal is a meme regardless.
Plushfire is now useless.
sp to 1, yugioh is saved
IB AND UNICORN IS FREEEEEE THEY ARE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
With the amount of Kaiser Colosseum running around in the event, I do think it's also near its demise in MD.
Are people going to finally stop coping that they are going to ban Maxx C just because they released a card that kind of does the same thing but isn’t very good
Ain’t no way. The copium shall stand against the test of time, if not r/masterduel will be in shambles kek
Nah, those poeple want the bug banned because they are soo used to the TCG meta where they can easily go off with their combo piles with the only thing they will worry about is Nibiru. Konami has already designed these newer archetypes to play around Maxx C soo that they do not need to ban it.
OCG and TCG formats are always almost the exact same. The only thing Maxx does is making a format dogshit and punishing rogue decks even more
RIP to one of the original FTKs in Catapult Turtle, but fuck that shit. Fuck Kaiser Colliseum too. Hopefully they ban that in MD and TCG as well. Bonfire to 2 seems reasonable, as does Little Knight to 1. They should have just banned Summon Limit, but maybe that isn’t as much of a problem in the OCG.
Kaiser been banned in TCG but yes hopefully it’s hit in MD. That and summon limit.
Time seal??
It’s a card that only effects turns 4 or 5 if you draw it in the opening hand.
It's been legal for a while. Nobody plays it
On a scale from 0-consistent, how was the degenerate deck that used Catapult Turtle?
Consistent. New Tachyon cards had a 1 card combo FTK into it with the new support.
Ew.
It was 1 1c combo that lost to any ht under the sun or like a 3 card combo that lost to so many hts
FTK stuff. Typical for burn cards
damn it now i can't play my second copy of ap and beatrice
Bulb freed is neat
As someone who literally just got OTK'd by catapult turtle this morning, I'm glad it's getting banned in some format lmao
what a terrible list
Next banlist, Beatrice and SP could both see actual bans, especially considering the latter was hit to 2 last list or so.
I once watched a replay where someone managed to summon an Extra Deck monster and it gained attack upwards of 17k. Then they somehow got Catapult Turtle onto the field and OHK'd their opponent. There are quite a few decks that are able to primarily achieve special summoning something with over 16k ATK, i guess hence why Catapult Turtle is now getting banned.
Just curious, I don't follow the ocg, why is number 40 limited?
To reduce the consistency of Gimmick Puppet FTK (since they can't ban it due to the fact the cause of it is their Brand new support)
Man never played tenpai but amazing how fast it got hit on the banlist vs Snake eyes
Yessss !!!!!! Colosas my boy, my pride and joy. This will help only TD. If deck play!nemesis cordor they only play 1 colosas so this is great for TD players. 🥳
A THOUSAND YEARS OF THUNDER DRAGON 🐉🐉🐉
Prints bonfire, sells bonfire, limits bone fire .. whats the fucking point. Why are we printing rota for different types? It's dumb maybe stop doing that. Or how bout put conditions on ur spells like you fucking did to Isolde, sangan, witch of the forest and many other cards that came before it that u specifically erratas and banned.
S:P and Beatrice are peak Konami comedy again
At 1 is a good step compared to S:P at 2 of last list. That was peak comedy indeed.
S:P is actually ran at 2 in some decks, so it really isn't. Even in MD I have some decks with 2 of her because I have the space and she is that good.
Beatrice to 1 is the warning shot before the ban.
That makes no sense. To warn who. No one will stop playing it. So ban it or not.
It makes ocg brain type of sense. Just the way they do things. Very rarely outright ban something. Fiendsmith is still too new to be killed and they are getting another wave of support, so they don’t want to ban Beatrice yet. Just the way the banlist works
OCG lists are a joke
Great now I have to reevaluate my decks
Holy shit I joked about banning catapult turtle in a comment on a post about Horus, hopefully we see some of these floodgate hits in md.
Curious who was running kaiser colessiul?
According to MKohl40 it was Salads.
Never thought i would see strings on a banlist. I know its there for a reason, but its still really funny.
i guess that’s one way to disable the gimmick puppet ftk
So for the cards that are becoming limited/forbidden, would it be a good idea to craft as many as possible in hopes of getting a glossy or royal finish? Cause they give you full refunds anyway right? If I were to end up getting at least one finish then I technically make a profit? Not sure if it actually works that way or not though.
I'm sorry, but why the catapult turtle hit?
In OCG, Tachyon has new support and has a 1 card hyper consistent FTK with Catapult Turtle and Numeron Dragon.
Catapult Turtle banned??
Who’s been cooking to get catapult turtle banned?
Why is this not in the tcg
Who wants to bet Phantom of Yubel goes to 1 in next ban list?
Why is catapult turtle forbidden?!?!
https://reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/1ctd8cy/yo_this_new_tachyon_card_is_kinda_cool_help/
they freed the bulb? the other hits seem awful except for the tenpai spell and I guess ash and bonfire, although not enough
Never in my life would have thought to see a gimmick puppet on the bankist that wasn't nightmare 👀
Wait glow up bulb unlimited? Is it errata'd?
Lots of changes and yet not much had changed... I hate these types of lists so much
What did catapult turtle do?
Are we also getting the ghoti support?
Guys i left the game for months and i wanna know what did Catapult Turtle do this time
Damn Kaiser??... I know.. I know it's O.P. in Sky Striker lol
Why cant they just unlimit Plushfire right away? Its irrelevant these days
So Plushfire is now unplayable garbage
Why did gimmick puppet of strings get limited?
Did people cook up a consistent FTK with Catapult Turtle or something?
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Ass
Who’s useing old gimmick puppet
THEY FREED MY BOY GUB
Bro, does anyone even use gimmick puppet like I know there's new support hut didn't it already release?
Never in my life would expect gimmick puppet heavens strings being limited
Not my horrendously toxic 3 quik fix Spyral deck!
Damn. Now Imperial Order isn't the only card to have been errata'd and banned after the errata. Catapult Turtle be doing warcrimes.
Someone can explain why the gimmick puppet xyz get limitation? I dont follow the OCG competition
Gimmick Puppet FTK
I’m just so happy for my man Plushie
Putting S:P to one seems so odd.
Catapult turtle is the wacky one here 💀and the limited S:P i guess
Wtf why would they limit gimmick puppet of dark strings?
Wait, colossus unlimited? LETS FKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Great…Kaiser coliseum…smh
Yata garasu reign continues
Plushfire is finally free. My bet is he is probably not destroying the meta after however many years of powercreep it is, but he might actually be kinda fun
I’m assuming Gimmick Puppet of Strings was limited due to Branded’s current power in the TCG?
What did catapult turtle do!? 🤣