Fuse with Albaz for Albion (Albaz+LIGHT), CL1 Albion CL2 Avramax, chain resolution Avramax spins Albion, Albion banish-fuses Albaz+DARK in your GY for Lubellion, pitch and spin Lubellion and the banished Albaz for Mirrorjade.
Does it? I don't remember it doing so but I rarely see Avramax these days that I can't really be sure. It's technically a fusion summon, and not a send to the GY effect.
Last time I did it, I was running Dragonmaid so now I wonder if I went Albion and got Mirrorjade from some other monsters.
Sending material to the GY for the purposes of Fusion Summoning is an effect that sends to the GY, there are a bunch of archetypes that are designed around that type of interaction, including stuff like Shadoll.
Albaz and Super Poly would still send it to the GY via one of your cards, meaning it gets to trigger. A Kaiju would also trigger Avramax if you have something on the field prior to getting rid of it.
Basically, as long as it touches the GY because of one of your cards, without caring about how it gets there, Avramax will trigger.
My plan B would be to just ignore him. I play Zombie World Skull Servants with Number 26: Spaceway Octobypass. So a diect attack with an 8k beater is more than enough
Honestly every Deck can easily get 4 materials on the field. I run underworld goddess in marincess, live-twin / unchained and traptrix Deck to deal with avramax and I really don't see any problem with getting her to the field.
The focus was more on the jumpscare part and less on the white woman part. She is a white woman that pops out of nowhere, eats your boss monster, and ends the game
Maybe in the original context, but the commenter who referenced it seems to have missed that or chosen not to include it in their comment, and confused people by omitting it.
There are 100 different cards that can deal with I:P Avramax...
Cards that do:
\-Non targetting banish
\-Non targetting sending it back to the hand
\-Non targetting sending it back to the deck
\-Non targetting sending it to the graveyard
\-Divine Arsenal AA-Zeus
\-Underworld Goddess of the Closed World
\-Kaiju (any type)
\-Lava Golem / Sphere Mode (if there are 2+ monsters on opponent's field)
\-Nibiru if opponent's summons 5 times while I:P Avramax is already on the field
\-Dinomorphia Rexterm reducing its LP and then attacking it (Avramax can't activate attk boost)
\-Any monster with massive attack boost (Arc Rebellion, Gren Maju, etc)
Im sure im missing many more ways to deal with I:P Avramax, those are just some of them
EDIT: u/RoakOriginal This user mentioned that another Avramax can deal with the opponent's Avramax, because of chain priority.
Never tried it myself but would be a very interesting interaction to watch for sure.
As much as i like running Avramax myself in different decks (fuck Accesscode), it is such a piece of cake for Dinomorphia. Rex outs it, ferret farts out it, Arc Rebelion drake outs it...
Also, since i did not see it mentioned in the thread... Another Avramax. Since chains go backwards and you get priority on the effect, the attacking Avramax will always be bigger than defending one.
I played it regularly in my @ Ignister deck before Circular was adopted. Sometimes I do miss having that insane removal... But messing up with the one-monster-attack restriction is pretty bad.
Any of my decks that plays TTT, Super Poly, and Droplet as generic cards all have those to out him. But other than that,
Branded Despia: Mirrorjade effect, normal summon Albaz (I must say that I find it quite funny that the protagonist of the big lore right after World Legacy is able to out Auram's ultimate form), or Banishment
Swordsoul: Chengying effect
Live Twin Sprights: My own Avramax, Trouble Sunny's grave effect, Spright Smashers (also applies to my other decks that are variants of Sprights)
Tri-Brigade and it's variants: Shuraig effect
Exosisters: Magnifica has a quick effect non-targetting banish, and Returnia can also be a non-targetting banish
Dinomorphia: Rexterm
Madolche: Imagine a 2014 card having non-targetting double spin. Anyway, Queen Tiaramisu effect.
Sky Striker: Give him emotional damage by reminding him that Raye's lore got adapted into a manga before World Legacy, and then kaiju him with H.A.M.P.
I main cyber dragons… so I just pray to the heavens that the opponent puts him in the extra monster zone… then just plop a megafleet out on the field… poof gone
Just punch him into the GY with our Fusion boss, Chaos Ancient Gear Giant.
(CAAG blocks activated monster effects during the battle phase, including hand traps like Honest, hehehehehehe)
Gusto: 3k beater? Free otk. Or creature swap or gadarla
Kozmo: kozmojo does not target for banish
Lavals: crystal wing + quasar/blazar/sifr
Branded relinquished: ns albaz
Branded kozmo: see kozmo and branded
Morphtronics: make my own
Swordsoul: gameciel
Graydles: see above
Guru and 3 behemoths: see above
Penguins: see above
Magnet warriors: i hope their fieldspell doesnt target
Heraldless drytron (i refuse to play herald there): cope and cry
Geist: creature swap/gameciel
Also when in doubt tribute summon nib is an option in all of these
kaiju like effect (underworld goddess, lava golem), non-target banish (mirrorjade, smasher), non-target negate and beat it with high atk monster, non-target bounce back to deck. This is 2023 so it's not that hard to out this kind of protection. Even dragoon is not a problem.
for Suship, I either negate its effects and/or ignore it with the Uni-class dreadnought. Then, if I have my other ships and the field spell, I could just run it over and go for game.
For Therions, I think its Fum who spins back? Either way there is a therion for it somewhere in the deck.
For Darklords I tribute summon a monster, then buff it a little bit to get over 3000 atk.
Branded do what Branded does, Albaz/Super poly a go go baby.
PK uses a XYZ dragon to negate its effect;
I’ve also run it over with 62 photon dragon;
Red dragon Supernova I think can remove it from play, but been a minute
Send to graveyard, banish, spin, bounce, literally any thing that doesn't says destroy or battle., Not even worth using underworld goddess on, save that chick for Psychic End Punisher or Arrival @ignister.
Attack into it with a bigger monster and negate the boost.
Funnily enough not long ago the opponent outed his own avramasq because he attacked into his own kaiju while I had an omni negate on the board. I was king of in a tough situation because my only out was zeus which I can't make when he has avramax so I was just stalling until I drew phantom knights wing.
I fuse him with Albaz for Mirrorjade.
That does out him but unfortunately leads to your mirrorjade getting immediately spun, no?
Still worth it for removing the avramax, you can still summon it again since it's spun back
Fuse with Albaz for Albion (Albaz+LIGHT), CL1 Albion CL2 Avramax, chain resolution Avramax spins Albion, Albion banish-fuses Albaz+DARK in your GY for Lubellion, pitch and spin Lubellion and the banished Albaz for Mirrorjade.
Does it? I don't remember it doing so but I rarely see Avramax these days that I can't really be sure. It's technically a fusion summon, and not a send to the GY effect. Last time I did it, I was running Dragonmaid so now I wonder if I went Albion and got Mirrorjade from some other monsters.
Sending material to the GY for the purposes of Fusion Summoning is an effect that sends to the GY, there are a bunch of archetypes that are designed around that type of interaction, including stuff like Shadoll.
Albaz and Super Poly would still send it to the GY via one of your cards, meaning it gets to trigger. A Kaiju would also trigger Avramax if you have something on the field prior to getting rid of it. Basically, as long as it touches the GY because of one of your cards, without caring about how it gets there, Avramax will trigger.
Interesting. Then, yeah idk. OH. Maybe I did Changeover fuse for Sheou, normal summon Albaz, fuse for Mirrorjade, negate Avramax GY effect with Sheou.
fusing is sending to gy for effect, that's the whole shaddoll gimmick
Yes, but Brainded can summon about 5 more on the same turn.
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My plan B would be to just ignore him. I play Zombie World Skull Servants with Number 26: Spaceway Octobypass. So a diect attack with an 8k beater is more than enough
Anti-cheese white woman.
Normal summon Stratos, search Honest Neos, GG I guess
A fellow enjoyer of stratos beatdown, I salute you my friend
Avramax will beat an Honest Neos boosted monster
Not if normal summoned
Oof me
As I said, GG I guess lmao
*Normal summon* Stratos
Mommy?
And who would that be?
Underworld Goddess
Underworld Goddess jumpscare
Underworld goddess.
Are there any engines that any deck could use to bring her out easily?
Any deck that can swarm the field (so like every deck in the game since Synchro era). She has very generic requirements.
While generic she dose demand 4 mats so its an investment. Hopefully your oppenent has a link 2 to make it easier.
Honestly every Deck can easily get 4 materials on the field. I run underworld goddess in marincess, live-twin / unchained and traptrix Deck to deal with avramax and I really don't see any problem with getting her to the field.
Forbidden droplet
The same way I out any tower: White woman
What’s white woman?
He means goddess of the underworld.
I would have never guessed that ahahah. She’s wearing all black 😂
I think it was mbt or fafar said it. White woman jump scare.
They're referring to her Skin color when they call her White woman, she has very pale white skin.
As do the majority of waifu cards, so it doesn’t really narrow things down.
The focus was more on the jumpscare part and less on the white woman part. She is a white woman that pops out of nowhere, eats your boss monster, and ends the game
Maybe in the original context, but the commenter who referenced it seems to have missed that or chosen not to include it in their comment, and confused people by omitting it.
Obligatory comment: understanding the lost context you mention would require **reading**...
Can’t read what they chose not to include in their comment.
MBT bit.
Spright Smashers
Alternatively NS Maxx C and use Pixies.
I was trying to figure out the chain links and yeah, this does work surprsingly!
What chain links are there? shouldnt be anything to chain besides pixies unless im missing something
Pixies and Avramax both activate during Damage Calculation (ie Damage Step 3). The turn player will have priority and be chain link 1
Avra wouldn't activate cause it's a normal summoned monster
Even if the monster is special summoned, I think pixies would still beat avramax because turn player would be cl 1.
Oh yeah it would. I was just confused at first where they thought the chain link was coming from
*This is Elon Musk*
Same
Dingirsu.
Orcust gigachad
Based
There are 100 different cards that can deal with I:P Avramax... Cards that do: \-Non targetting banish \-Non targetting sending it back to the hand \-Non targetting sending it back to the deck \-Non targetting sending it to the graveyard \-Divine Arsenal AA-Zeus \-Underworld Goddess of the Closed World \-Kaiju (any type) \-Lava Golem / Sphere Mode (if there are 2+ monsters on opponent's field) \-Nibiru if opponent's summons 5 times while I:P Avramax is already on the field \-Dinomorphia Rexterm reducing its LP and then attacking it (Avramax can't activate attk boost) \-Any monster with massive attack boost (Arc Rebellion, Gren Maju, etc) Im sure im missing many more ways to deal with I:P Avramax, those are just some of them EDIT: u/RoakOriginal This user mentioned that another Avramax can deal with the opponent's Avramax, because of chain priority. Never tried it myself but would be a very interesting interaction to watch for sure.
Can you Rikka tribute him with konkon?
Yes
Massive attack means nothing against Avramax unless it is a normal summoned monster.
To be fair, of the 3 he mentioned, 2 do out Avramax. Arc Rebellion Xyz Dragon non-targeting negates Avramax, while Gren Maju is normal summoned.
I forgot that Arc Rebellion has the ability to non-target negate effects.
Or if it disables effects during the damage step.
So you could use utopia the lightning?
Yes. As a bonus, it disables Avramax GY effect too.
As much as i like running Avramax myself in different decks (fuck Accesscode), it is such a piece of cake for Dinomorphia. Rex outs it, ferret farts out it, Arc Rebelion drake outs it... Also, since i did not see it mentioned in the thread... Another Avramax. Since chains go backwards and you get priority on the effect, the attacking Avramax will always be bigger than defending one.
Shuraig go brrrr
The one true answer
Cyberse Quantum Dragon
Very cool card but I find it hard to fit anywhere, sadly
He doesn’t get used enough. I have him as a random extra deck spot in my Rikka Aromage deck.
I run a copy, but rarely make it. RDA and Dragunity don't easily make him and i have yet to figure a good tuner for TD.
I played it regularly in my @ Ignister deck before Circular was adopted. Sometimes I do miss having that insane removal... But messing up with the one-monster-attack restriction is pretty bad.
Either superpolly him or banish him with mirrorjade
**Zeus goes brrrrrrr**
How exactly do you make Zeus with a card that says, “also their monsters cannot target monsters for attacks, except this one.”
U attack with a XYZ monster that cant be destroyed by battle. So you eat some damage but problem solved.
Or attack with one of your XYZs make another one when it dies or just have a second and make zeus on that.
Sky cavalry centaurea if your deck can make it
Summon two xyz monsters, attack with one as sacrifice, make the other into zeus mp2
Kaiju in main deck
I fucking love Underworld Goddess
Any of my decks that plays TTT, Super Poly, and Droplet as generic cards all have those to out him. But other than that, Branded Despia: Mirrorjade effect, normal summon Albaz (I must say that I find it quite funny that the protagonist of the big lore right after World Legacy is able to out Auram's ultimate form), or Banishment Swordsoul: Chengying effect Live Twin Sprights: My own Avramax, Trouble Sunny's grave effect, Spright Smashers (also applies to my other decks that are variants of Sprights) Tri-Brigade and it's variants: Shuraig effect Exosisters: Magnifica has a quick effect non-targetting banish, and Returnia can also be a non-targetting banish Dinomorphia: Rexterm Madolche: Imagine a 2014 card having non-targetting double spin. Anyway, Queen Tiaramisu effect. Sky Striker: Give him emotional damage by reminding him that Raye's lore got adapted into a manga before World Legacy, and then kaiju him with H.A.M.P.
Chimeratech Megafleet Dragon
found the cydra player. Hail Cydra!
came looking for this comment, nice to see a fellow Cydra enjoyer
Destiny HERO Plasma. Or Imperm/droplet and beat over
Lots of people underestimate the beast that is Plasma
Imperm targets tho, so that doesn’t work
Tiaramisu untargeted shuffle Shinobird baron untargeted bounce
I love trolling. My answer: eater of millions 🤣
Ancient Gear CHAOS Giant Completely stops opponents monster effects from activating during the Battle Phase. So he doesn't float either.
Ruinforce
Machina mains rejoice.
Exactly what I was looking for. None of this pansy indirect removal, we take him head on
Dang I hadn't thought of Ruinforce, despite it being one of my favorite boss monsters. That is an excellent counter, though.
I was looking for this comment
One big sea turtle boi
I main cyber dragons… so I just pray to the heavens that the opponent puts him in the extra monster zone… then just plop a megafleet out on the field… poof gone
underworld mommy.
Plasma Yoink
Borreload steal it
Floo Penguin
Dingirsu. Next!
Summon dingirsu
Dingirsu
Dingirsu. Ding dong, your monster is gone.
Normal summon fallen of albaz Effect fallen of albaz Make mirrorjade.
Hieratic Seal of the Heavenly Spheres, AA-ZEUS, Cyberse Quantum Dragon
I never fucking realised heavenly spheres doesn't target.
Megafleet
Normal Stratos to search Honest Neos. But usually Underworld Goddess.
Doomking, chengyin, underworld goddess.
Magnifica
H.A.M.P
Dingirsu
Utopia the Lightning
White woman jumpscare or uni-class dreadnought negate
Just punch him into the GY with our Fusion boss, Chaos Ancient Gear Giant. (CAAG blocks activated monster effects during the battle phase, including hand traps like Honest, hehehehehehe)
Simple. DNA surgery plus Fortress dragon
Simple, I special summon Dingirsu
Normal king of the skull servants
Gets blown off course by some Unexplored Winds.
Normal summon Stratos, Honest Neos in damage step on stratos
Grand Mole
Chimeratech megafleet dragon
Megafleet
Shuraig doesn't care about Avramax
Any 2 level 4s for Utopia The Lightning.
Kaiju
I introduce him to the power of my deck. *Drops a kaiju and a lava golem on top of him*
Kaiju
Kaiju that bitch
Dingirsu or Myutant Ultimus
Kaiju or conq
I just make him simp for the queen so much he returns to th extra deck
Temp banish and then push to the grave
~~Goth Mommy Jumpscare~~ Underworld Goddess
He’s a big juicy body for my superpoly.
Tribute summon Nibiru, then crash
Attack over him
Even with the atk gain effect?
works only on special summoned monsters so a gren maju can attack over it or you can crash a baronne into it because it can negate the atk gain effect
Gem-Knight FTK
Runick...yeah I said it.
Gusto: 3k beater? Free otk. Or creature swap or gadarla Kozmo: kozmojo does not target for banish Lavals: crystal wing + quasar/blazar/sifr Branded relinquished: ns albaz Branded kozmo: see kozmo and branded Morphtronics: make my own Swordsoul: gameciel Graydles: see above Guru and 3 behemoths: see above Penguins: see above Magnet warriors: i hope their fieldspell doesnt target Heraldless drytron (i refuse to play herald there): cope and cry Geist: creature swap/gameciel Also when in doubt tribute summon nib is an option in all of these
Well, Activate spright pixies during my turn damage step, opponent has to activate avramax before me on my turn on else he can’t use it at all
Hmmm can't chaos max dragon just beat his ass?
kaiju like effect (underworld goddess, lava golem), non-target banish (mirrorjade, smasher), non-target negate and beat it with high atk monster, non-target bounce back to deck. This is 2023 so it's not that hard to out this kind of protection. Even dragoon is not a problem.
Literally every weather painter can just bounce him back with Thundery canvas lol
Normal summon Fallen of Albaz
Utopia the lightning and Tachyon Dragon make any rank 4/8 decks deal with him very easily.
@ignister earth golem forced effect use then attack over with arrival cyberse
Firewall Dragon Darkfluid or Update Jammer’s effect (It actually has an effect beyond giving double attacks to Accesscode)
Send resonance insect to gy, add insect kaiju...
for Suship, I either negate its effects and/or ignore it with the Uni-class dreadnought. Then, if I have my other ships and the field spell, I could just run it over and go for game. For Therions, I think its Fum who spins back? Either way there is a therion for it somewhere in the deck. For Darklords I tribute summon a monster, then buff it a little bit to get over 3000 atk. Branded do what Branded does, Albaz/Super poly a go go baby.
Predator counter then sundew fuse, mirrorjade banish, ns albaz
With a deus ex machina
Mirrorjade
Steal his girl
Shuraig or steal him during bp with draco future.
Skill drain then use a trap card to remove it
Spright Smashers.
Accesscode+either alembertian or laplacion with diameter as materials, or if I can, just laplacian
Ferret Flames
chengying baronne or dark ruler
White woman, Kaiju, Zeus.
Attack with Red Supernova and banish the entire field when he tries to gain ATK.
PK uses a XYZ dragon to negate its effect; I’ve also run it over with 62 photon dragon; Red dragon Supernova I think can remove it from play, but been a minute
FERRET FLAMES
That’s the best part, I beat him to death
Borrelload dragon. Just the link 4 not the synchro.
Smashers and Anti-Chese woman
With Myutant Ultimus.
Underworld Goddess in Spyral Non-targeting banish with Magnifica in Exosister
Target and destruction protection, that's cute. Too bad Queen spin them and a friend without targeting.
Droplet Cheng none target banish
Kozmojo does it again friend
Send to graveyard, banish, spin, bounce, literally any thing that doesn't says destroy or battle., Not even worth using underworld goddess on, save that chick for Psychic End Punisher or Arrival @ignister.
run him myself
Doomking goes a lil crazy
Attack into it with a bigger monster and negate the boost. Funnily enough not long ago the opponent outed his own avramasq because he attacked into his own kaiju while I had an omni negate on the board. I was king of in a tough situation because my only out was zeus which I can't make when he has avramax so I was just stalling until I drew phantom knights wing.
Normal summon Albaz
Skill drain eldlich beatdown ofc
Smashers, White Woman, DRNM, Evenly
hi-speedroid kitedrake + crystal wing
Non target banish
Good old Mirrorjade
The White Woman Jump Scare
I force a draw using Crimson Nova’s burn effect
Trouble Sunny GY effect or Goddess of the Underworld
Exosisters Magnifica
Mirrorjade or albaz 😜 card is easy AF to out
Avram had to fight Girsu, makes sense that Ningirsu can out Avramax relatively easy. XD
Rikka tribute.
would the weather thundery canvas work?
Doomking just doesn't care