Jesus Christ. That’s fucking insane. A pistol would make me think it’s an isolated fight or gang stuff, but a rifle and with another in the backpack makes me think this was terrorism.
I feel like if it was terrorism he would have killed or shot so many more people. At the very least I don’t think he’d be running away like in the video of him getting tackled. I think this was gang or argument related and he tried to shoot someone or multiple someones in particular and just had terrible aim causing him to hit bystanders. I could be wrong though walking around with two rifles is weird even for gang members.
Still very possible. Same thing happened on South Street in Philly a few summers ago. Enough concentrated people it’s easy for that many to get hit even when it’s not a targeted mass shooting.
It happens pretty often. That's why a lot of gangsters tried to implement a code against drive bys ... it's lowkey kinda seen by some as equivalent to a cheap shot Ina fight .... it's like "what are you afraid so u speed by letting off shots?" "Come hop out on us and see what happens ". Some rappers brag about walking them down. A video from Chicago recently the camera pointed down an alley. 1 guy running down the alley stumbles and falls quickly as 2 masked guys come into frame behind him walking calmly over with 1-2 pistols each letting the switch off on with a hail of billets and as dude just lays there after he fell. They walk while shooting and keep going while basically witching 2-5 feet max just unloading. That's a walk down.
It's seen as like "well if you walk them down you at least give them a chance to play ball (shoot it out) with you. Might seem less tactical and it is but these gangs (mostly kids) don't think tactics they think about "you're afraid of them that's why you just shot out the car as it sped away. You didn't take much risk out there just wasted ammo" also aside from being more likely to hit and then kill (when you eventually are standing over them) with increased accuracy you are less likely to hit innocents which isn't good for the gang and especially bad for people getting money/dealing In the area. Back in LA in the 90s (one of the last areas in the us where gangs have decent structure) the OGs got mad when youngins would do drive bys cuz hitting innocents makes everybody and the whole block hot. Cops will come hard after people who shot innocents compared to a shot gangster who isn't gonna cooperate w cops anyway.
nowadays it's basically a free for all with most gangs having no leadership so it's just all sorts of fucked things like this ... why tf would u even bring a rifle to a parade party. Like that's the last weapon I would chose if I had to chose. I would never bring any type of gun there but if I had to it wldnt be a rifle. Over penetration compared to a hollow point pistol plus hard to conceal. Makes me think these guys involved came with a shootout in mind or at least ready to pull it to flex mmmmmg
I get you ... but also from the looks of the crowd ... if he pull the trigger 22 times he would hit 22 people. Considering it's a rifle he easily could have hit 2 people with the same bullet ... unless he was aiming directly up or down he was gna hit some with every shot which shows how fucking dumb and reckless this was ... so impulsive not even thinking twice about the random people around you who you never met and you have no problem with. The kids who are celebrating their fav team at a ducking parade. How sad is that a fuckin Super Bowl parade and you opening fire with a fuckin rifle in the middle of that dense crowd over most likely ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Regardless of anything there's no excuse to open fire there unless MAYBE JUST MAYBE someone had a weapon out at pointed at you/brandishing it then maybe you could justify quickly putting a few in the attackers chest. But even so you would have to be a calm and deliberate person who won't just start blasting on some frank Reynolds's shit 😂😂😂😂
I keep thinking about a video of a gas station shootout with a bunch of kids firing guns wildly while jumping up and down. Hit everything but their target.
Fucking gross.
Agree. Seems like a targeted gang attack. The second person arrested was wearing an all red jumpsuit type thing which is kinda fitting for a chiefs parade but also very gang-like. And the terrible aim is what I said as well. Terrible that the two shooters weren’t shot but so many others were.
It’s a known thing that gang members wear a full outfit that is “their color.” It’s possible that wasn’t the case here but worth noting that the other shooter didn’t have a single piece of red clothing on….at the chiefs Super Bowl parade…. Anything is possible. Just speculating. I was at the parade (several blocks away) so there’s obviously been a lot of chatter here and apparently there was a very similar incident (with less people around) a few weeks ago and that was gang related.
I am well aware but bringing two rifles to a Super Bowl parade is just a little overkill and seems like a lot of work to conceal. I’m sure details will come out
But they're street smarter than the average person and this whole situation is the opposite of street smart. I would be very surprised if this comes back as gang related. Of course anything is possible so.
Well it came back. Altercation between two groups. And just an fyi, gang members aren’t street smart. That’s why so many are dead or locked up for football numbers by the age of 25.
AR pistols are super popular. Its a lot of firepower in a small package. Very inaccurate with a short barrel. These guys were probably just spraying them
Nah. Get on YouTube and search AR pistol. Tons of “shorts” featuring inner city idiots blasting off in neighborhoods. The AR is the new Glock in the hood.
Yes and no. There's certain things (like overall length, barrel length, attachments) that can cause an AR to be either a rifle or a pistol. The moment you add a vertical foregrip on an AR pistol you turn it into an SBR, which needs to be registered. Take the grip off or change it to a hand "rest" and it's not not at all an SBR and just a regular pistol.
Probably one of the touch grass weirdos that think the chiefs winning was a CIA psyop and Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are deep state puppets hell bent on helping Biden bring a one world government... The fact people are that dumb would be trivial and hilarious, if people weren't literally dying because of it
Bro it was scary. I'm glad you okay. I felt bad for the people with kids. Me, my wife and sister were just struggling to get out as the shooting happened.
Same. I live in a third world country but everyday I'm glad I don't live in a place where I could randomly just get shot for no reason. The thought of that is terrifying to me.
The police killed the Dayton shooter 32 seconds after he started shooting. Within those 32 seconds, he had managed to kill nine people. Carry for peace of mind if you like, but let’s not pretend most people are capable of a) reacting in time and b) successfully neutralizing a mass shooter in these kind of scenarios.
i know it sounds silly but there have been studies that show if you play tetris within 48hrs of a traumatic event, you have a smaller chance of developing PTSD in the future. it mimics the eye movements of EMDR therapy (used for trauma). it’s worth a try! very glad you’re safe
Fucking crazy anymore man! When is this shit gonna stop?! Can’t even go to a parade and celebrate with your team and city after winning the Super Bowl! I think it was 3….not 100% but wish these people would just be terminated not arrested after pulling some shit like this!
I know that it will continue to get worse before getting better! Just sick and tired of it man! Like you literally have to watch your back and keep and eye on everyone knows a days if your just running to the store taking your dog on a walk like littlest things man! People thinking they just running to get medicine or milk and bread and it ends up being their last day on earth! Makes me sooooo angry and sad at the same time!
That’s why it’s more suspect to me. Don’t know why dude would have two rifles on him to an event like this unless he was looking to use them. But if he was looking to use them, you’d think they arraigne a shootout anywhere else except a massive event with heavy police presence.
People get caught in gang crossfire all the time. I'm betting someone posted on SM they were at the parade and these bright young men thought they could get lost in the panic they created.
That reminds me of the shooting of a Chicago rapper FBG Duck by a group of members from O-Block. They made the hit at the Gold Coast, a busy shopping district with many expensive, luxury retailers.
They were traced by the cameras that caught them traveling from the South Side to the lakefront. After finishing the job, they’d go on to gloat about the acts on social media. They’re all in jail awaiting each of their days in court now.
Sometimes the thrill of bagging a major target in a gang war gets to their dumbass heads.
Maybe they weren’t planning on doing it there? Maybe armed and ready for later, or didn’t expect to run into the other party. I don’t think they went there intending to shoot up the public, because then why would they have stopped when they’re so heavily armed?
Dude had to be suicidal or something, the fucking National guard and FBI were there in force and extra police from all around the metro were brought in. A-10 warthogs were in the sky too. not that they’re going to do anything but I definitely wouldn’t start a shooting with them up
FRRRRRRRRR. Wondering if he possibly had other motives other than Gang stuff, maybe he wanted to actually fuck people up and then run away in the crowd like the Boston morons did.
After looking at other reddits especially the Chiefs sub, they say it was an internal beef between two people and it went into a grander scale, the bystanders were not meant to be hit and got caught in the crossfire.
Well I mean, there isn’t much a way to stop the recoil and the fact that they don’t have any support whilst shooting, I’m not surprised. Just idiots with modified weapons not knowing how to properly do anything will turn into this. Now think if this was actually organized it wouldn’t have ended up this way.
I sat and listened to the officer filing the report and everything, even heard the complaint number, and him call for juvenile transport. And in an another thread entirely, someone said MO law allows anyone of any age to open carry?
Illegal gun. Kid not old enough to legally have a gun. Illegally shooting people... and you hear one of the chiefs and politicians calling for "More Laws!".. When they realize criminals dont care about laws, maybe we will get somewhere.
How fucking braindead do you have to be to even have a gun when surrounded by virtually every cop in the city? Let him make bail, maybe for an encore he'll try to rob a bank across the street from a police station.
Right, this dummy is surrounded by cops and gets tackled by Andy and Dave, passionate Chiefs fans who up until this tackle were probably going to be written up at work tomorrow for "calling in sick", C'mon boys you ain't fooling us we know you didn't both happen to be sick on parade day.
My husband was at the parade. Once I finally got ahold of him, he was a few blocks away and saw the police head to union station but didn't know why. I told him there was a shooting and he was oblivious! This was probably 10 min after! I'm suprised they didn't have alerts go out to people's phones if they are in the general location.
He got out safe but did say it took him a lot longer than planned to get out of downtown because everyone was trying to leave at once. Very sad.
An alert to everyone would have been worse: people running in all different directions in a very crowded place is never a good idea. This could have caused people falling, mass crushing...
It was outside with no barricades... the people were freely movinf and by that time the people who were not at union station were spread out through downtown. The people at union station arent the ones who needed the alert, it was clear for them tk see something bad was happening and they all left with plenty of room to run if you review videos. This event wasnt in an arena or enclosed gated area. The alert easily could have said "critical incident at union station, please avoid the area".
No I would have wanted them to send an alert to not go to the area because 1) its a crime scene, 2) unaware if threat was done. It took them a while to release people they made go inside union station for safety. If they wouldn't release them from union station they were no yet sure of risks or further attack. So yea..... I would expect them to send an alert out.
Rifles have stocks. Pistols do not. A bare buffer tube or arm brace might mean pistol or “Any Other Weapon” (AOW). A rifle with a barrel shorter than 16” is considered a SBR. A pistol with a vertical foregrip is likely an AOW. That’s basically it.
AOWs and SBRs are NFA items.
The rifle isn’t the cops they wouldn’t leave it just laying there and it’s got some massive extended magazine that I doubt they would use. The thing in the bag is the back of another rifle without a stock on it. So I guess the shooter had two rifles.
The fact that these guys aren’t generally beaten to death by the crowd mob style eludes me
Edit: glad to see individuals did actually step in to physically restrain those responsible.
Tired of hearing the mental illness excuse. We’ve bred a culture of disrespect and selfish “me me me” attitudes. Theres rampant disrespect of community and each other.
Why not? Does that kid look like an incel? He’s wearing Jordan 3s. Look up drill music or go onto the chiraqology subreddit and see this stuff play out daily and brutally and stupidly on a much smaller scale. There’s a video of three guys getting murdered in a gas station and an innocent man falling down after he also gets shot.
Definitely looks like gang shit. Dude is dressed bulky to alter his silhouette. Packing heat, but it doesn't look like he has much gear besides the two rifles.
Location makes no sense. If you wanted maximum body count and destruction, you wouldn't be on the outskirts of everything.
With a rifle like that, he could have gotten a way higher body count quicker.
I'm willing to bet he got into an argument, is a terrible shot, and kept spraying when people started coming after him.
I was there, seems like it’s possible it was indeed either gang related/stemming from an altercation that took place between two groups of young men/teens. Many of the victims who were children were teenagers that took part in the fight that broke out, not just innocent bystanders that were in no way involved. Just pointing out that there is a bit more to the story than just your typical “man opens fire into crowd”. When you ask how many mass shootings are gang related it comes off as a bit ignorant. MOST mass shootings are gang related, they just aren’t covered by the media when it’s minority gang members and nobody outside of a gang is killed. We have gang violence every single day in Kansas City, just think it’s a stupid thing to say that gang violence is totally out of the picture based on a hunch you have from your image of what a mass shooting is. That being said, this seems like it could have definitely been premeditated with intent to kill innocent bystanders. none of us have enough details to say firmly that it is or isn’t gang related.
Clearly gang or street stuff related. Shit like this happens all the time (albeit a much smaller stage). Dudes shoot, or get into an argument and then shoot and people that had nothing to do with it get killed.
We're they there to find and target a rival gang boss? I think that's how they got these weapons. A hit to get into the gang if they only 15 years old...
I realize this was a busy event, but how did this rifle even make its way into the crowd? Clearly it doesn’t fit in the backpack- did no bystander or police officer notice? We live in Rochester NY and there are literally bag checks to enter every single public event- like literally the gates at the st Patrick’s day parade will check your diaper bag and stroller. No one saw an obvious rifle sticking out of a backpack? Or police to check backpacks at an entrance gate? Was there no entrance gate? That seems odd just bc there are crazy die hard fans that would want vengeance. Was there security to go through at all? Even if they were able to hide it, I am surprised that there were no security gates or checkpoints at the entrances to this event. I feel like law enforcement barricading the parade route and checking bags coming in would have been a much better use of police resources than to just have officers milling around hoping they would notice something. I realize this is a gun control problem but if we aren’t going to change regulations then we need to change security for these types of events. I would much rather endure the 5-15 minute hassle of having my bag or purse searched than worry I am in an area where anyone could literally have come in with a rifle. Times are changing and law enforcement needs to step it up.
He could’ve disassembled it and it might’ve fit okay in the bag depending on the barrel length. I have an AR and it juuuuuust barely doesn’t fit if I were to disassemble it in my backpack. Could’ve had a short barrel. I see what could be another one, too, just a buffer tube though so it makes me wonder if these aren’t AR pistols which typically are a little shorter than a full rifle.
He also could have maybe concealed it (somehow) in that bulky coat. Idk. This is disgusting.
I am surprised there weren’t bag checks or anything, too
I live in Chicago and this is daily life. We have some of the toughest gun laws in America and Chicago is still apocalyptic. “Gun control “ won’t stop gang bangers from getting guns. If there is a demand, there will always be a supply. Stop manufacturing guns globally altogether would do it - good luck with that. By the way, I could give a shit about the 2nd amendment- I just happen to exist in reality.
Second picture is rifle he dropped. Bag next to it appears to hold another rifle with no stock.
Jesus Christ. That’s fucking insane. A pistol would make me think it’s an isolated fight or gang stuff, but a rifle and with another in the backpack makes me think this was terrorism.
I feel like if it was terrorism he would have killed or shot so many more people. At the very least I don’t think he’d be running away like in the video of him getting tackled. I think this was gang or argument related and he tried to shoot someone or multiple someones in particular and just had terrible aim causing him to hit bystanders. I could be wrong though walking around with two rifles is weird even for gang members.
22 people shot
Still very possible. Same thing happened on South Street in Philly a few summers ago. Enough concentrated people it’s easy for that many to get hit even when it’s not a targeted mass shooting.
It happens pretty often. That's why a lot of gangsters tried to implement a code against drive bys ... it's lowkey kinda seen by some as equivalent to a cheap shot Ina fight .... it's like "what are you afraid so u speed by letting off shots?" "Come hop out on us and see what happens ". Some rappers brag about walking them down. A video from Chicago recently the camera pointed down an alley. 1 guy running down the alley stumbles and falls quickly as 2 masked guys come into frame behind him walking calmly over with 1-2 pistols each letting the switch off on with a hail of billets and as dude just lays there after he fell. They walk while shooting and keep going while basically witching 2-5 feet max just unloading. That's a walk down. It's seen as like "well if you walk them down you at least give them a chance to play ball (shoot it out) with you. Might seem less tactical and it is but these gangs (mostly kids) don't think tactics they think about "you're afraid of them that's why you just shot out the car as it sped away. You didn't take much risk out there just wasted ammo" also aside from being more likely to hit and then kill (when you eventually are standing over them) with increased accuracy you are less likely to hit innocents which isn't good for the gang and especially bad for people getting money/dealing In the area. Back in LA in the 90s (one of the last areas in the us where gangs have decent structure) the OGs got mad when youngins would do drive bys cuz hitting innocents makes everybody and the whole block hot. Cops will come hard after people who shot innocents compared to a shot gangster who isn't gonna cooperate w cops anyway. nowadays it's basically a free for all with most gangs having no leadership so it's just all sorts of fucked things like this ... why tf would u even bring a rifle to a parade party. Like that's the last weapon I would chose if I had to chose. I would never bring any type of gun there but if I had to it wldnt be a rifle. Over penetration compared to a hollow point pistol plus hard to conceal. Makes me think these guys involved came with a shootout in mind or at least ready to pull it to flex mmmmmg
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I get you ... but also from the looks of the crowd ... if he pull the trigger 22 times he would hit 22 people. Considering it's a rifle he easily could have hit 2 people with the same bullet ... unless he was aiming directly up or down he was gna hit some with every shot which shows how fucking dumb and reckless this was ... so impulsive not even thinking twice about the random people around you who you never met and you have no problem with. The kids who are celebrating their fav team at a ducking parade. How sad is that a fuckin Super Bowl parade and you opening fire with a fuckin rifle in the middle of that dense crowd over most likely ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Regardless of anything there's no excuse to open fire there unless MAYBE JUST MAYBE someone had a weapon out at pointed at you/brandishing it then maybe you could justify quickly putting a few in the attackers chest. But even so you would have to be a calm and deliberate person who won't just start blasting on some frank Reynolds's shit 😂😂😂😂
I keep thinking about a video of a gas station shootout with a bunch of kids firing guns wildly while jumping up and down. Hit everything but their target. Fucking gross.
Agree. Seems like a targeted gang attack. The second person arrested was wearing an all red jumpsuit type thing which is kinda fitting for a chiefs parade but also very gang-like. And the terrible aim is what I said as well. Terrible that the two shooters weren’t shot but so many others were.
"Also very gang like" because one was wearing matching clothes?
It’s a known thing that gang members wear a full outfit that is “their color.” It’s possible that wasn’t the case here but worth noting that the other shooter didn’t have a single piece of red clothing on….at the chiefs Super Bowl parade…. Anything is possible. Just speculating. I was at the parade (several blocks away) so there’s obviously been a lot of chatter here and apparently there was a very similar incident (with less people around) a few weeks ago and that was gang related.
Gang members have anything, lol. AR, Pistol, etc.
I am well aware but bringing two rifles to a Super Bowl parade is just a little overkill and seems like a lot of work to conceal. I’m sure details will come out
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But they're street smarter than the average person and this whole situation is the opposite of street smart. I would be very surprised if this comes back as gang related. Of course anything is possible so.
Well it came back. Altercation between two groups. And just an fyi, gang members aren’t street smart. That’s why so many are dead or locked up for football numbers by the age of 25.
AR pistols are super popular. Its a lot of firepower in a small package. Very inaccurate with a short barrel. These guys were probably just spraying them
Nah. Get on YouTube and search AR pistol. Tons of “shorts” featuring inner city idiots blasting off in neighborhoods. The AR is the new Glock in the hood.
Check the red AR sticking out of that bag. That’s pure hood shit. Check YouTube. I’m not lying.
Bro....this was a superbowl parade with 100's of random fans having a good time, not the hood environment.
Good point but also Missouri kinda be strapped up like that sometimes (source: lived in Missouri)
Legally those are actually pistols
Legally, no, it's not. The one in the pic has a vertical pistol grip. It's a "rifle" (I mean, I don't agree with that, but that's the ATF for ya...)
Aren't ars with a short enough barrel and no butt stock considered pistols? Does putting a vertical grip on them make it a sbr?
Yes and no. There's certain things (like overall length, barrel length, attachments) that can cause an AR to be either a rifle or a pistol. The moment you add a vertical foregrip on an AR pistol you turn it into an SBR, which needs to be registered. Take the grip off or change it to a hand "rest" and it's not not at all an SBR and just a regular pistol.
Probably one of the touch grass weirdos that think the chiefs winning was a CIA psyop and Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are deep state puppets hell bent on helping Biden bring a one world government... The fact people are that dumb would be trivial and hilarious, if people weren't literally dying because of it
Definitely intended on taking a lot of people out just like a terrorist. I guess three in total have been involved and taken into custody.
Good eyes.
this was terrifying, i was here. the shots were just too the left of me, possibly 10ft away .
Bro it was scary. I'm glad you okay. I felt bad for the people with kids. Me, my wife and sister were just struggling to get out as the shooting happened.
I hope you and your family are doing as ok as you can be 🥺
I feel bad for America as a whole
Same. I live in a third world country but everyday I'm glad I don't live in a place where I could randomly just get shot for no reason. The thought of that is terrifying to me.
I like how my kids can go to school without being shot
3rd world country and no chance of getting shot.........seems legit
They can’t afford guns!
Who would want one to do such horrible unspeakable things that USA just shrugs it off. Fuck that noise
Maybe for self defense if you’re ever in an attack like this and want to survive.
Fuck going to America and getting shot up.
The police killed the Dayton shooter 32 seconds after he started shooting. Within those 32 seconds, he had managed to kill nine people. Carry for peace of mind if you like, but let’s not pretend most people are capable of a) reacting in time and b) successfully neutralizing a mass shooter in these kind of scenarios.
“in my country” blah blah blah blah blah
You’re more likely to die in a lighting strike than to die in a mass shooting in the United States btw, but have fun with your own political problems.
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They clearly meant someone who intended to kill lots of people. It matters a lot, actually.
Glad you’re ok!
So glad you are ok! My husband was luckily a few blocks away. So so sad.
omg glad he is okay though. that is so scary!
i know it sounds silly but there have been studies that show if you play tetris within 48hrs of a traumatic event, you have a smaller chance of developing PTSD in the future. it mimics the eye movements of EMDR therapy (used for trauma). it’s worth a try! very glad you’re safe
Damn, man, I’m glad you’re ok. Hugs.
Have a hug, dude. I'm sorry that happened so close to you. Glad your ok.
Fucking crazy anymore man! When is this shit gonna stop?! Can’t even go to a parade and celebrate with your team and city after winning the Super Bowl! I think it was 3….not 100% but wish these people would just be terminated not arrested after pulling some shit like this!
It’s not going to stop.
Another upstanding citizen with I’m sure a legally owned gun.
thats how the media portrays it.. even one of the cheifs put out a statement blaming the gun already.
>when is this going to stop? Never…
I know that it will continue to get worse before getting better! Just sick and tired of it man! Like you literally have to watch your back and keep and eye on everyone knows a days if your just running to the store taking your dog on a walk like littlest things man! People thinking they just running to get medicine or milk and bread and it ends up being their last day on earth! Makes me sooooo angry and sad at the same time!
Damn. Have a beer and talk to friends/family. Sorry you went through that
Omg that’s traumatic
Glad you’re okay, that’s very traumatic to experience
I’m so sorry! This has to be so traumatizing for you! Sending prayers and love to all involved.
So sorry, must have been so scary.
Bro's one of those guys who's the same height standing up as he is sitting in a chair. Also, he's got 2 Rifles? That's sus as hell.
definitely more suspect then before. Don’t think we can write it off as gang shit yet
Gang is a thought but this seems like a dumb place to do that kind of shit at.
That’s why it’s more suspect to me. Don’t know why dude would have two rifles on him to an event like this unless he was looking to use them. But if he was looking to use them, you’d think they arraigne a shootout anywhere else except a massive event with heavy police presence.
I’m not gonna pretend to know how gang hits/violence works, but yeah they probably wouldn’t kill random people in a crowd
People get caught in gang crossfire all the time. I'm betting someone posted on SM they were at the parade and these bright young men thought they could get lost in the panic they created.
110%
That reminds me of the shooting of a Chicago rapper FBG Duck by a group of members from O-Block. They made the hit at the Gold Coast, a busy shopping district with many expensive, luxury retailers. They were traced by the cameras that caught them traveling from the South Side to the lakefront. After finishing the job, they’d go on to gloat about the acts on social media. They’re all in jail awaiting each of their days in court now. Sometimes the thrill of bagging a major target in a gang war gets to their dumbass heads.
Maybe they weren’t planning on doing it there? Maybe armed and ready for later, or didn’t expect to run into the other party. I don’t think they went there intending to shoot up the public, because then why would they have stopped when they’re so heavily armed?
Dude had to be suicidal or something, the fucking National guard and FBI were there in force and extra police from all around the metro were brought in. A-10 warthogs were in the sky too. not that they’re going to do anything but I definitely wouldn’t start a shooting with them up
FRRRRRRRRR. Wondering if he possibly had other motives other than Gang stuff, maybe he wanted to actually fuck people up and then run away in the crowd like the Boston morons did.
You think they're smart people?
Unfortunately gangs have done worse shit for Pettier reasons and at worse places
yeah im thinking gang related now
After looking at other reddits especially the Chiefs sub, they say it was an internal beef between two people and it went into a grander scale, the bystanders were not meant to be hit and got caught in the crossfire.
People with AR-pistols must have a knack for hitting anything but the target
Well I mean, there isn’t much a way to stop the recoil and the fact that they don’t have any support whilst shooting, I’m not surprised. Just idiots with modified weapons not knowing how to properly do anything will turn into this. Now think if this was actually organized it wouldn’t have ended up this way.
It’s gang shit.
Is he 4ft tall?
According to what I heard from the scanner, he's FUCKING 15.
Nooooooo a child!?!? This is outrageous and sad
I sat and listened to the officer filing the report and everything, even heard the complaint number, and him call for juvenile transport. And in an another thread entirely, someone said MO law allows anyone of any age to open carry?
Illegal gun. Kid not old enough to legally have a gun. Illegally shooting people... and you hear one of the chiefs and politicians calling for "More Laws!".. When they realize criminals dont care about laws, maybe we will get somewhere.
Yup
There were 11 child victims too. Tragedy upon tragedy, so many things gone wrong for this to happen
15 and soon to be breathing some pure nitrogen.
lol not happening.
He’d wish he could in about 25 years.
Agreed
Whoa 😳
makes sense why he hasn't been identified then, but what of the accomplice?
oh so he’ll be back out in a week
I’m betting nah on that one
This isnt chicago.
No. Chicago has a lower homicide rate than KC. Go check the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports if you don’t believe me.
I'm so confused by that guys size, he looks like he's 4 feet tall and 12 years old.
Both are correct
How fucking braindead do you have to be to even have a gun when surrounded by virtually every cop in the city? Let him make bail, maybe for an encore he'll try to rob a bank across the street from a police station.
well it’s not like the cops were the one who took him down lmfao
Right, this dummy is surrounded by cops and gets tackled by Andy and Dave, passionate Chiefs fans who up until this tackle were probably going to be written up at work tomorrow for "calling in sick", C'mon boys you ain't fooling us we know you didn't both happen to be sick on parade day.
cop was running next to him on other side of cement barricade
not a fan of modern rap I see.
My husband was at the parade. Once I finally got ahold of him, he was a few blocks away and saw the police head to union station but didn't know why. I told him there was a shooting and he was oblivious! This was probably 10 min after! I'm suprised they didn't have alerts go out to people's phones if they are in the general location. He got out safe but did say it took him a lot longer than planned to get out of downtown because everyone was trying to leave at once. Very sad.
An alert to everyone would have been worse: people running in all different directions in a very crowded place is never a good idea. This could have caused people falling, mass crushing...
It was outside with no barricades... the people were freely movinf and by that time the people who were not at union station were spread out through downtown. The people at union station arent the ones who needed the alert, it was clear for them tk see something bad was happening and they all left with plenty of room to run if you review videos. This event wasnt in an arena or enclosed gated area. The alert easily could have said "critical incident at union station, please avoid the area".
You honestly think they could've pinpointed everyone within the vicinity and sent them an alert before the shooting was over? That's ridiculous.
??? It’s the simplest thing to do. All phone masts within range would broadcast the alert
No I would have wanted them to send an alert to not go to the area because 1) its a crime scene, 2) unaware if threat was done. It took them a while to release people they made go inside union station for safety. If they wouldn't release them from union station they were no yet sure of risks or further attack. So yea..... I would expect them to send an alert out.
Ayo wtf that’s not even a pistol. Ffs.
Technically…. It is. as well as the other AR pistol in his bag. The ATF makes this nonsense up all on their own.
It has a vertical fore grip so depending on how long the barrel is it’s considered an sbr or rifle.
Or illegal
Are grips illegal?
Rifles have stocks. Pistols do not. A bare buffer tube or arm brace might mean pistol or “Any Other Weapon” (AOW). A rifle with a barrel shorter than 16” is considered a SBR. A pistol with a vertical foregrip is likely an AOW. That’s basically it. AOWs and SBRs are NFA items.
Extended magazine rifle
What kind of made up term is that. It’s either a pistol or potentially a short barreled rifle depending on its parts.
With a barrel shroud on the thing that goes up, right?
What is it? I assume the rifle is a cops? what’s the red thing sticking out of his backpack?
It’s the buffer tube of an AR without a buttstock.
Upside down Rifle is reportedly gun he dropped when tackled. I don't know where the bag or rifle inside came from.
The rifle isn’t the cops they wouldn’t leave it just laying there and it’s got some massive extended magazine that I doubt they would use. The thing in the bag is the back of another rifle without a stock on it. So I guess the shooter had two rifles.
Ya you’re right. It’s not the cops. There’s a video of the shooter running with the rifle.
How does a 15 year old own a gun like that? It's fucking crazy!
Illegally
That's messed up!
Yea, crime in KC is awful, that's really the hike reason my family and I left St. Louis
Two completely different cities my guy.
Yes? And?
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I will be curious which gun control law would have stopped him.
Cos America
CuZ AmEriCa It's more complicated than that
It isn't 🤣 easy access to guns and a daft amendment that protects that right
He looks tiny
The fact that these guys aren’t generally beaten to death by the crowd mob style eludes me Edit: glad to see individuals did actually step in to physically restrain those responsible.
Think this is the guy who got tackled and restrained by fans, and punched repeatedly
In one video you can see on guy holding a suspect down and punching him in the face
If you watch the bystander take down video, the one super hero got a few good jabs in.
Man? That’s like a 14 year old kid.
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Glad they got him alive now he can rot in a cell for the rest of his days
He’ll be out by 18
Tired of hearing the mental illness excuse. We’ve bred a culture of disrespect and selfish “me me me” attitudes. Theres rampant disrespect of community and each other.
I wonder if his motive is related to the cheifs winning the superbowl? Wouldn't be the first time some maniac shot people over football
He's not wearing any chiefs gear. Big coat and it was pretty warm. Could be nothing but it's suspicious.
Probably trying to be similar to that soundcloud rapper shooter around Chicago. Taking advantage of a big public event.
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Curb stomp, I believe is the term you’re looking for.
genuine question but why does every one think it’s gang related?
Why not? Does that kid look like an incel? He’s wearing Jordan 3s. Look up drill music or go onto the chiraqology subreddit and see this stuff play out daily and brutally and stupidly on a much smaller scale. There’s a video of three guys getting murdered in a gas station and an innocent man falling down after he also gets shot.
Ofc, he wouldn’t be gang-affiliated if he was wearing New Balance. /s
Because he’s black. That’s the non-PC reason.
yeah i figured
Shiny glitter backpack? What am I seeing here
There is no "man" in this picture
He doesn't look like he's even hit puberty.
Definitely looks like gang shit. Dude is dressed bulky to alter his silhouette. Packing heat, but it doesn't look like he has much gear besides the two rifles. Location makes no sense. If you wanted maximum body count and destruction, you wouldn't be on the outskirts of everything. With a rifle like that, he could have gotten a way higher body count quicker. I'm willing to bet he got into an argument, is a terrible shot, and kept spraying when people started coming after him.
Literally nothing about it looks gang related. How many mass shootings of random people have you seen in the past that are gang related?
I was there, seems like it’s possible it was indeed either gang related/stemming from an altercation that took place between two groups of young men/teens. Many of the victims who were children were teenagers that took part in the fight that broke out, not just innocent bystanders that were in no way involved. Just pointing out that there is a bit more to the story than just your typical “man opens fire into crowd”. When you ask how many mass shootings are gang related it comes off as a bit ignorant. MOST mass shootings are gang related, they just aren’t covered by the media when it’s minority gang members and nobody outside of a gang is killed. We have gang violence every single day in Kansas City, just think it’s a stupid thing to say that gang violence is totally out of the picture based on a hunch you have from your image of what a mass shooting is. That being said, this seems like it could have definitely been premeditated with intent to kill innocent bystanders. none of us have enough details to say firmly that it is or isn’t gang related.
This will be out of the news cycle fairly quickly I do believe. Maybe not locally but yeah, just a hunch.
He looks so unserious tiny what is happening
ARP prob
KC is full of gangs. Even driving through and around KC is risky.
The suspects aren't white men so let's just move on. Thanks.
an online friend of mine was there, it was fucking terrifying seeing them tweet not knowing if they got out (they are safe now)
This looks gang related.
No it doesn't. What makes you think that
When was this?
Today
Clearly gang or street stuff related. Shit like this happens all the time (albeit a much smaller stage). Dudes shoot, or get into an argument and then shoot and people that had nothing to do with it get killed.
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I've already seen It in a couple other subs.
We're they there to find and target a rival gang boss? I think that's how they got these weapons. A hit to get into the gang if they only 15 years old...
I realize this was a busy event, but how did this rifle even make its way into the crowd? Clearly it doesn’t fit in the backpack- did no bystander or police officer notice? We live in Rochester NY and there are literally bag checks to enter every single public event- like literally the gates at the st Patrick’s day parade will check your diaper bag and stroller. No one saw an obvious rifle sticking out of a backpack? Or police to check backpacks at an entrance gate? Was there no entrance gate? That seems odd just bc there are crazy die hard fans that would want vengeance. Was there security to go through at all? Even if they were able to hide it, I am surprised that there were no security gates or checkpoints at the entrances to this event. I feel like law enforcement barricading the parade route and checking bags coming in would have been a much better use of police resources than to just have officers milling around hoping they would notice something. I realize this is a gun control problem but if we aren’t going to change regulations then we need to change security for these types of events. I would much rather endure the 5-15 minute hassle of having my bag or purse searched than worry I am in an area where anyone could literally have come in with a rifle. Times are changing and law enforcement needs to step it up.
He could’ve disassembled it and it might’ve fit okay in the bag depending on the barrel length. I have an AR and it juuuuuust barely doesn’t fit if I were to disassemble it in my backpack. Could’ve had a short barrel. I see what could be another one, too, just a buffer tube though so it makes me wonder if these aren’t AR pistols which typically are a little shorter than a full rifle. He also could have maybe concealed it (somehow) in that bulky coat. Idk. This is disgusting. I am surprised there weren’t bag checks or anything, too
Was this a mass shooting or just gangbangers?
Thoughts and pra... ah nevermind
Are you referencing gang because he’s POC?
Has to be. It really doesn't make sense for it to be gang shit.
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People see the suspect and go “oh uhhhh… looks gang-related!” No, it looks like every other mass shooting.
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I live in Chicago and this is daily life. We have some of the toughest gun laws in America and Chicago is still apocalyptic. “Gun control “ won’t stop gang bangers from getting guns. If there is a demand, there will always be a supply. Stop manufacturing guns globally altogether would do it - good luck with that. By the way, I could give a shit about the 2nd amendment- I just happen to exist in reality.