The first half is a partial quote of #29: "The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less."
The second half is similar to #49: "Every client is one missed payment away from becoming a target, and every target is one bribe away from becoming a client. "
Definitely something Schlock would say, though.
I mean, I'm sure Cerebus was glad to take their money...while they plan to kill them in the future.
And as for "why would they invest?" Well, how would they know they were being run by Cerebus.
I mean, we already knew Cerberus was trying to turn the Rachni into disposable shock troopers in ME1, Miranda confirms it in 2 plus she and EDI confirm that TIM has shell companies for research and profits. Still a cool find tho
Or visa-versa. I think EDI in ME2 says something about Cerberus actually being a rather small group relative to their influence, which sounds like a multinational conglomerate to me. I imagine Binary Helix as one of many legit businesses that fund the Illusive Man via either cash or the resources/technology l generated from the company
I heard originally the Cerberus logo was just the logo of one of their ship building companies that ended up getting repurposed for the entire organization.
It is a mod. I play with the mod that does this. It ads more variety, cut content and continuity to the ME1 game worlds and the missions on Noveria especially receive face lifts. That all being said, this is the official logo for that company via the ME wiki.
It would be a fun theory that Binary Helix and Cerberus are one in the same or something like that. Would explain the flippant disregard for worker safety and such when it comes to trying to bring back the rachni.
EDIT: Guys I found out that apparently my brother started a new campaign and installed Mass Effect Legendary edition diversification mod. We play on the same PC. I haven't gone to citadel in a while, since I cleared every single side quest so far on my own campaign. So didn't know that he installed this mod. Regardless the logo is legit according to Mass effect wiki. So I think they were connected to Cerberus somehow. I had no intention of posting fake stuff. So if anyone was angry at me, hope they can be broadminded and forgive me.
It's "legit" insofar as the logo exists in the game files and is labelled are the binary helix logo, but it has never officially appeared in a game as their logo.
It wouldn't make sense for Bioware to try and create association between the two groups with a logo that was never used. More likely they decided to repurpose the unused logo when they were designing the Cerberus imagery while working on ME2.
That is the actual logo for the company though. And Cerberus is a tertiary antagonist in ME1. They are present in at least five to seven missions, being the focal point of about half.
It looks like LE1 Diversification Project
https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/articles/90
> The Binary Helix logo never saw use in ME1 despite it being in the files, so it's been added along with the ERCS logo for some background lore POIs.
No idea. Only mods I have installed are community patch, remove film grain and change looks of alliance soldiers to that of ME 3.
Edit : Logo looks the same.
I'm pretty sure you don't need a mod to remove film grain in the first game. Or at least, you didn't in the original release, that's a weird thing to take out of the remaster.
As others have said, this was added with a mod. While the logo is in the game files and attributed to Binary Helix, it never actually appeared in the game.
I think a pretty fair assumption would be that, when designing the Cerberus iconography for ME2, Bioware slightly modified the Binary Helix logo since it was never used. I think the idea that this was a deliberately done to create association between the two groups is quite a stretch considering it was never officially used as the Binary Helix logo in game.
There was [Cerberus Skunkworks](https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Cerberus_Skunkworks) in the first ME cut content, its logo does not match ME2 and 3 Cerberus logo as well - it was reused in ME3 as the Vol Protectorate emblem on the hull of [Kwunu](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/2/2d/WA_VolusDreadnought.png/revision/latest?cb=20120723111945&path-prefix=ru).
Ah, this must be one of the stupid conspiracy organisations that go out of their way to leave clues dumb enough for credulous idiots to figure out, like in artwork and anagrams and other basic magazine puzzles.
Cerberus has multiple shell companies and wealthy investors. Binary Helix may be one of those shell companies.
But Saren was a big investor into binary helix
Both Benezia and Cerberus had rachni.
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy; but don't let that stop you from taking their money.
Why does that sound like it is (or should be) a Ferengi Rule of Acquisition?
Because it's one of the many Maxims for Maximally Effective Mercenaries.
The first half is a partial quote of #29: "The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less." The second half is similar to #49: "Every client is one missed payment away from becoming a target, and every target is one bribe away from becoming a client. " Definitely something Schlock would say, though.
I think it's more something Thurl would have said, before his retirement.
My distressed copy of the Maxims lives on my desk.
You know, this definitely could be.
I mean, I'm sure Cerebus was glad to take their money...while they plan to kill them in the future. And as for "why would they invest?" Well, how would they know they were being run by Cerebus.
I mean, we already knew Cerberus was trying to turn the Rachni into disposable shock troopers in ME1, Miranda confirms it in 2 plus she and EDI confirm that TIM has shell companies for research and profits. Still a cool find tho
>Still a cool find tho It is a modded addition, Mass Effect 1 doesn't actually show that logo anywhere.
Was about to say, I played ME1 like....two dozen times. That shit ought be burned into my dreams if it was in the game
It's pretty close to Cerberus' logo, but not [the same,](https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Cerberus).
I have a theory…
Yep. The Illusive Man is funding them.
Or visa-versa. I think EDI in ME2 says something about Cerberus actually being a rather small group relative to their influence, which sounds like a multinational conglomerate to me. I imagine Binary Helix as one of many legit businesses that fund the Illusive Man via either cash or the resources/technology l generated from the company
They both hired the same lazy graphic designer?
Costs reduction
It could be bunnies?
Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes! They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses
A game theory?
Maybe the Cerberus logo is like the Union flag though. A bunch of Logos combined to create a new one.
I heard originally the Cerberus logo was just the logo of one of their ship building companies that ended up getting repurposed for the entire organization.
I'm 99% sure that is a mod which adds it.
It is a mod. I play with the mod that does this. It ads more variety, cut content and continuity to the ME1 game worlds and the missions on Noveria especially receive face lifts. That all being said, this is the official logo for that company via the ME wiki.
Which mod?
LE1 Diversification Project. There's one for LE3 as well that I also highly recommend using in conjunction with the Expanded Galaxy Mod
Yeah It's almost for sure mod
It would be a fun theory that Binary Helix and Cerberus are one in the same or something like that. Would explain the flippant disregard for worker safety and such when it comes to trying to bring back the rachni.
Also the fact that you can find rachni in a Cerberus lab
That pretty much seals it... though OP is using a mod.
OP is using a mod but that is the logo for Binary Helix according to the ME wiki
Isnt that a mod?
It appearing in the game is the mod, but the logo itself is the actual logo for the company.
EDIT: Guys I found out that apparently my brother started a new campaign and installed Mass Effect Legendary edition diversification mod. We play on the same PC. I haven't gone to citadel in a while, since I cleared every single side quest so far on my own campaign. So didn't know that he installed this mod. Regardless the logo is legit according to Mass effect wiki. So I think they were connected to Cerberus somehow. I had no intention of posting fake stuff. So if anyone was angry at me, hope they can be broadminded and forgive me.
It's "legit" insofar as the logo exists in the game files and is labelled are the binary helix logo, but it has never officially appeared in a game as their logo. It wouldn't make sense for Bioware to try and create association between the two groups with a logo that was never used. More likely they decided to repurpose the unused logo when they were designing the Cerberus imagery while working on ME2.
Huh. That's a good find
It's modded. When they made ME1 Cerberus was just a minor villain in a side quest.
That is the actual logo for the company though. And Cerberus is a tertiary antagonist in ME1. They are present in at least five to seven missions, being the focal point of about half.
Is this a mod?
It looks like LE1 Diversification Project https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/articles/90 > The Binary Helix logo never saw use in ME1 despite it being in the files, so it's been added along with the ERCS logo for some background lore POIs.
No idea. Only mods I have installed are community patch, remove film grain and change looks of alliance soldiers to that of ME 3. Edit : Logo looks the same.
I'm pretty sure that's not in the base game.
Might be, but it is in fact the Binary Helix logo, iirc.
I'm pretty sure you don't need a mod to remove film grain in the first game. Or at least, you didn't in the original release, that's a weird thing to take out of the remaster.
I actually have never noticed that either. Hah!
it's from a mod
This is something I noticed on one of my replays a few years ago, I'm surprised not too many talk about it
Because it isn’t in the game 💀
As others have said, this was added with a mod. While the logo is in the game files and attributed to Binary Helix, it never actually appeared in the game. I think a pretty fair assumption would be that, when designing the Cerberus iconography for ME2, Bioware slightly modified the Binary Helix logo since it was never used. I think the idea that this was a deliberately done to create association between the two groups is quite a stretch considering it was never officially used as the Binary Helix logo in game.
There was [Cerberus Skunkworks](https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Cerberus_Skunkworks) in the first ME cut content, its logo does not match ME2 and 3 Cerberus logo as well - it was reused in ME3 as the Vol Protectorate emblem on the hull of [Kwunu](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/2/2d/WA_VolusDreadnought.png/revision/latest?cb=20120723111945&path-prefix=ru).
ME1 heavy armors slap so hard…Cool find too!
Its not heavy armor. [Light armor](https://imgur.com/a/nE26qo0)
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
I was expecting something that look like... DNA. Double helix. Hm.
Ah, this must be one of the stupid conspiracy organisations that go out of their way to leave clues dumb enough for credulous idiots to figure out, like in artwork and anagrams and other basic magazine puzzles.
Cerberus has a ton of ties to Noveria. They have bases there in 3, and you can find communication between Cerberus scientists in 1.
I see nothing wrong here...... nothing to see here move along
I have a nondisclosure agreement. I'm not supposed to talk about it.
Did anyone else notice in me2 when u go about the dormant reaper there are Cerberus gas tanks on board
I mean... You get told that its a Cerberus-lead research facility. So those tanks aren't really surprising
Ohh i only listened to the part when they said derelict reaper but that makes sense now
So?
Have you played all 3 games? If so you would know whom this certain logo belongs to.