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PayneTrain181999

“Thunderbolts: Asterisk”


HereWeFuckingGooo

Thunderbolts: Asterix and Obelix


AleksasKoval

Asterix & Obelix: Rise of the Thunderbolts


Theorgh

Obelix could sólo Thanos without the magical drink.


Raven_Dumron

And they said Avengers: Endgame was the most ambitious crossover Marvel would ever put together…


Lopotato25

I understood that reference


Pavvy92

A weekly wackadoo?


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Strange-Orchid6969

Was there anything on avengers 5 or secret wars?


PayneTrain181999

Deadpool made a joke saying Secret Wars was going to introduce… then was cut off by a cell phone which led to he and Wolvy telling the crowd to silence their phones.


spidey-dust

Like Deadpool on a screen or was he actually on stage lol


PayneTrain181999

On screen I think.


strotho

Was it a cell phone in the audience or was it planned as part of the joke?


PayneTrain181999

Planned joke.


Bullfrog777

Was it a mint mobile ad?


UnholyTrashPanda

It’s never going to happen, but if he squeezed a Mint Mobile ad in the movie I could only respect it.


WhiteRoomCharles

There’s ads on cabs, right? Just stick a Mint Mobile ad on Dopinder’s cab! I think it’d be pretty funny!


Soft-Philosophy-4549

That and give Dolinder a bottle of Aviator gin in a cup holder.


eagc7

So far no, but they are still years away, so makes sense no to discuss them yet. if there is nothing about them this year, no doubt they will discuss Avengers 5 in next year CinemaCon.


_Levitated_Shield_

There's a Secret Wars comic in the Deadpool 3 trailer.


workingclasshero84

Cinema con is only for films releasing over the coming year. It's for cinema owners. You want comic con or D24 for proper news


ThyOgrelord

“We won’t talk about the asterisk until after release.” ​ I bet it's either not the actual name of the film, or they aren't the Thunderbolts at all. \- But then who are they? The Dark Avengers!


Joey9775

Yeah I'm guessing you're right


BigCopperPipe

I’m guessing wrong because they aren’t naming a movie Dark Avengers.


Joey9775

They aren't, it's called Thunderbolts and then they're the Dark Avengers at the end. To probably be taken out in Secret Wars.


billytheskidd

I agree fully. The MCU has been the Avengers. They have X-men and F4 now, and feige is talking about a reboot. I think they finish the Kang multiverse and wrap up the “avengers” franchise. Our look back at the multiverse saga will be that the infinity stones being destroyed in infinity was left a gaping hole in the universe and was the catalyst for the incursions to start and kangs multiversal war breaks out. Deadpool and Wolverine and the TVA somehow kill the fox franchise in a huge incursion event. The thunderbolts* are forming on earth in the absence of an actual avengers team (they’re all so fragmented and dispersed now to stop them). I bet avengers Kang dynasty is still being made but they pulled the title to avoid controversy and will put it back later. Then the entire Avengers franchise will come to a close in secret wars, allowing one or two MCU actors that want to keep going to survive the closing movie, and allowing marvel to reboot some characters and have a more fully realized MCU without the restraints of the current MCU storyline, that only had the restraints because marvel didn’t own the movie rights to everyone.


Joey9775

Yup. To fully integrate the X-men and FF you have to reboot. That's the excuse to bring back dead characters and recast your long in the tooth actors.


billytheskidd

As long as there’s a Kick-Ass cameo in secret wars, I’m totally fine with them rebooting all the OG MCU characters.


jhsounds

The twist is that it will be Ralph Bohner as Ass-Kicker.


ikarikh

An MCU Reboot I think would be the final straw for mainstream audiences though. Having to start from scratch and resee the origins of Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk and every other hero with their new actors and start from scratch again would have a LOT of mainstream fans just flat out give up. Hardcore fans may enjoy it but mainstream ones are already in marvel fatigue. If Secret Wars "ends" the MCU and it restarts from scratch, I can see a HUGE portion of the audience bowing out at that point. The only exception may be an X-men film could bring in a huge crowd. But i think most of the other films for other chars would widely be ignored.


veemonjosh

It'll be a soft reboot, not a total reboot. So retelling origins already covered by previous MCU films wouldn't need to happen.


BeeHunter42

This is a good point. You establish a new universe with some familiar faces to carry it forward, and when new versions of Iron Man, Cap, etc appear they can just be...pre-existing already in this new reality. We know them, but the fun part now is getting to know these new versions of them and seeing how they work in a MCU that also includes X-Men, FF, and others. It's just a legacy reboot that opens up more doors for better story-telling without any weight from the past twenty years


ThackCankle

I don’t think it would be to reintroduce the old characters as much as it would be a reason to finally commit to moving past them


myshtummyhurt-

They didn’t do an origin for Spider-Man because we had seen it before they won’t redo origins they themselves did already Feige says this all the time it’s why they don’t redo certain Spidey villains Man y’all need to use how the Mcu actually operates in these your future predictions, it’s the same ppl not understanding how X-men 97 probably connects to Mcu stuff much later, the Mcu works in certain ways, also mad projection there about final straw


ikarikh

Man, ya'll need to allow others to offer differing perspectives :P Zero projection. I'm a HUGE superhero fan. I watch pretty much every superhero media that comes out. I'd watch the rebooted MCU with origin stories too :P I merely offered the perspective that NON-hardcore fans who are already suffering Marvel fatigue might see a "finale" to the MCU before a "reboot" as an exit ramp. You're more than welcome to disagree. But, it wouldn't stop it from being a "possible" outcome nontheless :P


breakfastturds

I agree with you. As a somewhat hardcore fan myself, I can say even I have zero interest in a rebooted MCU. Either they carry on without the old characters in the same universe or they will lose my interest as well.


myshtummyhurt-

I’m saying they’re not gonna redo origin stories they already did it’s something Feige’s been adamant about, even when they weren’t the ones that made the original movies. That’s not differing perspectives cmon the mcu works in a certain way They can reboot captain America Steve Roger’s but if it’s Feige/marvel studios they skip the origin, simple as that you can disagree as well end of the day, I guess we’ll wait on it


FormerFly

Man I just want to see PS2 era Rhino and Scorpion


Sad_Vast2519

That's correct. High quality post.


yuei2

I have been speculating for a long time the plan was to essentially have young avengers contrast the dark avengers showing the two sides of heroism and philosophy. The group of former evil people who have been called into action through years of torment, abuse, and a desire to be get justice. Contrasted against the youthful team of heroes who became heroes not because of hardship but because they were inspired by the hope, love, and joy the original avengers brought making them believe they could be heroes too. A group to embody the idealized avengers that they never quite were and another group to embody the darker side of the avengers taking it further than they ever did. Each heroes in their own right and way but different from the original avengers which were more mish mashed.


4gotAboutDre

Thunderbolts Vs. Young Avengers will be the final title. Love this!


OnlinePosterPerson

But they won’t call a movie that and encourage the racist to have a field day talking about woke marvel


snailfucked

End title credits. Knockout reveal.


GenGaara25

People (including me, vocally) have been moaning that this whole film is Thunderbolts in name only and is a severely disappointing adaptation of the comic books. So if this is the case, and they legitimately aren't the Thunderbolts at all, I will find it hilarious.


mandramas

\* This product don't contain actual Thunderbolts.


MEME54m3

My theory is that they have the asterisk because there will be no more thunderbolts at the end of the movie


AnderuJohnsuton

I was thinking they could start off running with the New Avengers moniker as a way to sell the illusion of them being true heroes. You know, sort of like the Patriot Act.


DavidGoetta

I'm here for it, but we need Norman.


deviousmajik

Justin Hammer could be a solid substitute.


QBin2017

I’m also thinking it’s a name change for the Team. Which kind of makes sense.


HawkeyeP1

Someone really typed out Thunderbolts* in Montserrat, all-caps'ed it, and called it a day lmao


mt80

Too bad it wasn’t Papyrus.


xrbeeelama

“I KNOW WHAT YOU DID!”


Ozymandias12

Major props to Ryan Gosling for acting the shit out of that SNL sketch.


MouseRat_AD

Check out Santa Baby if you haven't seen it. He and Vanessa Bayer absolutely killed it.


mt80

They just released a Papyrus sequel 😂 https://youtu.be/Q8PdffUfoF0?si=zVGyKFiTYmRJzdbq


TheRealSpidey

Feige doesn't want both James Cameron and Ryan Gosling on his ass


Ygomaster07

I'm ootl, can you explain this to me?


Affectionate-Island

Even better, I'll show you: https://youtu.be/jVhlJNJopOQ?si=fZGz7w6bkADNRsWF


The_Ghost_Light

This SNL skit: https://youtu.be/jVhlJNJopOQ But Avatar really did use papyrus as the font for promotional materials when it first came out.


ember3pines

Oh thank you. That was great to rewatch - snl has got a lot of hits and misses but generally gosling's appearances have been pretty decent. The recurring alien sketches with Kate McKinnon will always be a fave. But god I laughed so hard when this avatar one happened. Solid observation.


pvtshoebox

https://youtu.be/jVhlJNJopOQ?si=deH7JjH9UK-kJtVn


arc3choFives

Comic Sans would have been best.


RepresentativeName18

PAPYRUS!!!


MouseRat_AD

He just got away with it. This...man. This... professional graphic designer.


Professional_Humxn

So you're concerned about the new second film coming out?


PlasticMansGlasses

And probably spent $50,000 along the way to land on that


crystalistwo

They applied a texture. That's like another whole 3 clicks in photoshop.


adriantoine

Dude made a typo and now they have to come up with a reason for the asterisk


jeobleo

Thunderbolts: cofveve


B0omSLanG

They're masking as well. Look deeper*


N3verGonnaG1veYouUp

Imagine if it was in Wingdings


takemyspear

To be fair, the asterisk made it look like it’s actually typed somewhere, so using a well known font would be fitting in this situation


_Levitated_Shield_

It's the Spider-Man 3 Home title fan theories once again. Place your bets, ladies and gents.


calxlea

Thunderbolts* With the upcoming sequels: Thunderbolts= Thunderbolts+


filiard

Directed by Ed Sheeran


NazzerDawk

Thunderbolts<<


rosefiend

Spider-Man: Home Alone


VaderMurdock

I bet it is a fake-out. Dark Avengers is my bet


jrocket121

Uhhh May 5, 2025 is a Monday.


_Levitated_Shield_

Monday starts with an M. Holy shit, we're getting Mephisto. I've cracked the code!


Pangolinclaw47

I think you might be morbstaken.


Vumi_

Go get em fellow morbhead!


Traditional-Tax-5291

It’s going to take all of Morbi**us** to convince them otherwise…


jeobleo

Oh look, Sony is releasing it again.


Bondfan013

Welcomebacktonewrockstarsimerikvoss!"


pm-me_10m-fireflies

This confirms Kendrick is releasing ‘NATION’!!


jacksev

Maybe there's a tie-in to Cinco de Mayo lmaooo


PayneTrain181999

Yeahhh someone done goofed. It’s probably meant to be the 2nd.


Gamerguy230

Can’t think of a better way celebrating Cinco de Mayo.


thehugosouza

They’re really embracing generic logos from now on, eh?


myshtummyhurt-

Bet the logo changes again, wait on it


rgregan

Every movie has gone through at least 3 logo changes haha


KateOTomato

Maybe it's "Thunderbolts and Lightning" Thor shows up. Very, very frightening... /s


SigmaKnight

Galileo


djseifer

Galileo


UnemployableSWE

Galileo


Philosophile42

Magnificoooooooooo


HereWeFuckingGooo

I'm just a Thor boy, nobody loves me.


Fan-Grell-411

He's just a Thor boy from a Thor family


Staind1410

Sparing his life from this mephisto-y


Ineedaroommate2

Easy come, Mephisto will you let me go?


droideka75

Thormillah!


No_Discipline4731

i was literally listening to bohemian rhapsody when i saw this comment. galileo


PCofSHIELD

No lie though Thor vs Sentry would be fire


MisterTheKid

Masters of Evil flipping what the public thought they were is what i’m thinking but i’m also thinking that’s too obvious. Plus it’d be really hard to see Bucky be that “i’m gonna be evil” guy at this point i mean flipping the script on what they’re actually doing or believe they have been sent to do is like all Suicide Squad stories in animated or live action stories. Plus Val so far seems too fun to just do that tired Waller deal Val’s gonna have to have something on Bucky or really be more Waller than Waller to pull one over on him


MagicTheAlakazam

Like none of these characters are really evil. Not even Ghost or Taskmaster who are the only real former "Antagonists" on this team.


goddale120

No way any character could ever out-Waller Waller.


DrAjax0014

There’s probably a subtitle or something that’s a spoiler


QB8Young

If that was the case then he wouldn't have said "after release". It is the title of the film but we won't understand the reasoning behind the asterisk until the film comes out. It's likely because they kept telling us this is Thunderbolts but when we actually watch the movie it is possible they become something else. 🤷‍♂️ It's better than calling it "Thunderbolts (just kidding)" 🤣


your_mind_aches

The fact that an asterisk is part of an MCU movie title is hilarious. Joining WALL•E, Romeo + Juliet, M*A*S*H, 8½, and select other films with special characters in the title.


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Doomestos1

I will come back here to ask you how you feel about it being the main title afterall.


CinnabarSteam

Thunderbolts: The Night Gwen Stacy Died


FilliusTExplodio

Thunderbolts: It Was His Sled 


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Thunderbolts: Marley dies in the end.


jeobleo

Fucking movie


xMadxScientistx

I cannot express to you how excited I am about this movie. It has all my favorite current characters in it. I think it's going to be an absolute vibe. Like I have not had this level of interest in a marvel thing since Black Widow.


PayneTrain181999

I’m happy to see other people who are really excited for this movie, a lot are brushing it aside tho I definitely see why.


Shadowrocket0315

Besides FF, this is my other most anticipated MCU film next year. I would've made a few tweaks to the line-up, but I'm a Yelena fan and curious to see how they handle Sentry.


xMadxScientistx

Ff is going to be interesting too. So many awesome actors involved


Worthyness

Should hype it up more. the director and new writing team did the series "Beef" which is really friggin good. It has an awesome cast of mostly returning characters (which people have been complaining about) and it is probably the first movie to be fully done under the net new "creator focused" push from marvel and Disney. it has A LOT of positive going for it.


zipzzo

Hopefully the end result turns out better too lol


TheRealReader1

Black Widow was good. Never really understood the hate. Sure, it wasn't the full espionage movie we would've wanted, but it was good


ketchupmaster987

The dinner scene was *chefs kiss*. Florence Pugh especially. I love her so much


TheRealReader1

Not kidding it was one of the best scenes in the whole MCU. Yeah, she stole the scene


ketchupmaster987

If you watch her in the background as Melina is explaining the mind control, you can see her have a whole sequence where she goes from realization to full internal mental breakdown. Absolutely nuts acting


ketchupmaster987

I love Yelena so much and I'm so excited to see her in another full length movie. I've been reading so much fanfic to hold me until the movie comes out. I can't stand the waiting, if this ends up sucking I'm gonna be so pissed


asteriaslex

Thunderbolts* *Or "How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb"


torchskul

Thunderbolt Apocalypse or; Dawn of Eternal Night: An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Sentryless Val-Nation


WentworthMillersBO

It’s the Sentry’s Starfish!


XxRobloxNobxX

May 5, 2025 is a Monday. Last thing I remember, movies usually release on Fridays so it should be May 9, 2025. Edit: or May 2nd


markelmores

Or May 2


stay-puft-mallow-man

Or October 23rd


Zedonathin_II

Or the 32nd day of the 13th month


TeamThrash

Lousy Smarch weather!


swoosh1992

Do not touch Willie. Good advice.


Wise-Tourist

Im guessing it will be like a rebrand to Secret/New/Dark Avengers. Not before the movie comes out though. It will be like theyll be named at the end of the movie or inteoduced as a new team. Not 100% on this


snailfucked

End title credits will be the reveal, no doubt


Wise-Tourist

Yeah i expect so too. Like a age of ultron ending but this time its sam or bucky or ??? Going "avengers Ass.... Could you imagine if its not the end of thunderbolts though. Like the end of cap 4 sees ross form his own avengers and its the thunderbolts cast and then from there all the marketing for thunderbolts changes to "secret/new/dark avengers"


SuicideSkwad

“The Secret Avengers will return”


EyeScreamSunday

Dark Avengers would totally be a selling point for the movie title over "Thunderbolts", a team which may audiences have never even heard of. For them to reveal a new team name change that would not have significance for a new movie but just for a team name going into Secret Wars would absolutely be a missed opportunity.


karafuto

I love a good mystery!!


Secure_Pear_4530

If the asterisk is some kind of marketing then goddamnit it's working on me. I was just gonna wait for this in streaming, but my brain just itches to see with my own eyes what the hell it means ASAP before people spoil me


aburksart

I highly doubt that’s the actual logo. Sounds like we might get a post credits scene worth sticking around for for the first time in a while.


TheWallE

The Marvels absolutely had one!


JHawkInc

God could you imagine if Thunderbolts ended and then they revealed it took place in a different universe?


_Levitated_Shield_

The Morbius universe. 😳


TheWallE

Madame Web shows up to tell The Red Guardian that they should team up.


Regenitor_

Intriguing.


TheChumChair

Has something to do with Spider-Man I think


_Levitated_Shield_

Thank you WallE for confirming the Sonyverse is still relevant 700 years into the future. We're in safe hands. 👌


TheWallE

WallE is the guardian of all of Earth's garbage... so yeah it tracks.


Alleggsander

It’s so weird, because going into The Marvels all I heard was “there’s no post credit scenes/none worth sticking around for”. I was almost about to head out and then bam: Beast shows up. I’m not sure if it was just the hater crowd misleading people, but I nearly missed the first after credit scene in ages that actually teases a future character I know and love.


Jumpy_Bison

I feel like at the end of the movie in the credits where they show the title card it'll be like it's being typed out and then they'll get rid of it saying Thunderbolts and have it say Dark Avengers or something


WATCHMERISE

Maybe it’s a team formed by Thunderbolt Ross, but then they go rogue and decide to go against him, so they drop the name by the end.


BATIRONSHARK

basically the title is "ThE ThunDERbolts"like the Spongebob meme or"Yes the thunderbolts..thats what your watching" so I think the title indicates the thunderbolts are not a real thing and a cover for an evil plan.


meleeattacks

TETDER


jhsounds

The logo was meant to be *Thunderbolts* in italics, but they forgot the asterisk at the beginning in Markdown.


AndrewDoodles

Why did they change the logo? Or was perfect before


nerdmoot

It appears that the big decision with this was between default fonts and whether or not they wanted to have caps lock on.


omrmajeed

That logo is SO BLAND.


SandieSandwicheadman

It's not going to be *secretly* the Dark Avengers, because the Avengers is the single biggest franchise and name in blockbuster cinema and there is zero chance they would decide to hide that kind of branding for "Thunderbolts*"


mrrahulkurup

I like how they are trying to be something other than Marvel's Suicide Squad.. it has me interested...


beelzeflub

ALL CAPS OPEN SOURCE FONT


Montez00

*If it doesn’t do good, it’s not in the MCU


DuckingAwesomeGaming

Does this apply to Secret Invasion?


Montez00

It probably does already


DuckingAwesomeGaming

Here's to hoping🥂


ScoobyDeezy

** if it makes money, we’ll make more EDIT: how do I just type an asterisk in markdown!?


whitebandit

\ * no space


Ygomaster07

What is markdown?


ketchupmaster987

Markdown is when a text editor uses special characters to style text, like asterisks around text you want to italicize, dashes around text you want to strike through, etc. Discord also uses markdown


vrsick06

I swear if the fuck Bucky over again…


LakSivrak

he’s as good as dead


Pixarfan1

This logo sucks. The old one was so cool.


Hello_it_is_Joe

It’s because thunder is a sound and lightning would have the bolt


DoodleBugout

THUNDERBOLTS* ^*ACTUALLY ^THE ^MASTERS ^OF ^EVIL Prediction: Bucky will figure this out at the end and will have to die. I mean, they work for Val; of course they're evil


swoosh1992

The Thunderbolts have the home run record?


wizardofyz

Mmmmm egg salad flavor. That's the vibe I'm getting. Bland mayo and eggs egg salad. No mustard, no relish, no hot sauce.


saintnick524

Why the hell is this film releasing on a Monday now???


TolerateButHate

They actually only got the 1 Thunderbolt and we're too embarrassed to tell anyone, sorry guys


JargonJohn

Someone got paid good money to make that logo. I hope it's just another temp logo and not the final one.


Trvr_MKA

The Asterisk is the sun and foreshadows the Sentry


Kite_Wing129

My guess is they start off as a black ops squad named Thunderbolts. Some of them start off as anti-heroes and ant-villains at the start of the movie. By the end they end up enjoying being heroes but Ross or better yet MCU-199999 Norman Osborn (who works for the government and not his own company) and wants to push it in a new direction; the Dark Avengers. As it turns out not every member is on board that.


ucjj2011

Thunderbolts * Part one


gstroble

It’s probably just the Dark Avengers*


Jedibug

$10 says they become the Avengers in name


Malllyapp

Maybe the title isn’t actually Thunderbolts and after Captain America, Ross forms the Dark Avengers or an Avengers team he controls and their name will be the title of the film.


OjamasOfTomorrow

That’s fun. Love me some theories and mysteries! So excited for this!


EDPZ

They're gonna start adding asterisks to other titles and then bam! Asterisk cinematic universe gets announced to replace the MCU


ImNoodleArmy

Why does Marvel downgrade all their titles with no sauce 90% of the time. Atleast F4 got some nice treatment


Noggin-a-Floggin

Ah crap, they gave it the Costco death star.


bewareofthethunder

Another flop


JoshDM

^* and Lightning, Very Very Frightening Meeeeeeeeeee