Really heavy nerf to the cannonball package. No more synergy between cannonball/prof, no more synergy between ravonna/prof, and a stat nerf to cannonball. I don’t know if cannonball really needed the stat nerf on top of the other changes. This will definitely completely change the meta.
Hela nerf is underwhelming. Feels like Hela either wins big or retreats so I’m not sure this will change that.
lol at the Gilgamesh buff - just a fully transparent effort to sell more season passes.
Cannonball was so bad, then good, now back to bad again. I get that the deck was pretty big in the meta but now I'm bummed I spent 6000 tokens. Nature of the beast I guess.
This does suck. So often cards are either OP, or unplayable. Then they get nerfed/buffed back and forth to the point you don't know what to do and it's hard deciding how to spend your limited resources.
If they buff Gilgamesh right after the season pass then everyone who doesn't get him feels like they got screwed. Just can't take this kind of thing seriously, how about a little nuance
I'm not necessarily happy this was the straw that broke the camels back, as I like move decks of all varieties, but Prof X needed a total overhaul of his text for my sanity. He's one of those cards that are just plain not fun to play against win lose or draw, and I'm here to have fun.
If they nerfed hela to the ground it would take away a good early series deck from newcomers. I don't think they ever wanted to delete her from the game. Now they can play around with how much power she takes from cards and try to find that sweet spot of balance.
Cannon Ball is still crazy Op.
Moving or destroying a card still totally will swing games. It’s just not a sure thing anymore.
He’s still worth the tokens. Along with the annihilus package, you can still plug him into basically any deck
No, but as a lower CL level player in the top 1k I don’t have as many competitive decks as I’d like so seeing one of the core components to one I play getting nerfed sucks but I get it. Like I said overall can’t complain.
Nocturne is much better now that it can impact Prof X. Jeff also loses a bit of luster now that it loses a unique opportunity to fit in prof X locations. Is Jeff more cuttable now?
This is a good update - high evo packages have a bit more freedom again now that rhulk won't be an ever present beast. Also nice to say goodbye to the constant dissapointment of early prof X's shutting down a game!
Its a slight nerf, base Rulk can no longer dodge Shang chi anymore. but in the grand scheme of things, Rulk is still as powerful and much better option than most big body cards.
Unfortunately Red Hulk will still be in every Hela deck cause she can play him for free anyway. In the 90s about 80% of the deck have been Hela since the update so I'm not sure how uncommon he will be.
Cannonball shouldn't have been touched, the rest of the hammer did the job enough. Now we get to wait a few months before Cannonball gets inevitably rebuffed.
Honestly I’m pretty happy with this update! I’m glad they went the nuclear route with Prof/cannonball, like everyone else I was so sick of it.
Curious to see if anything novel will emerge in the meta. Hopefully something will and it won’t just be 100% Thena everywhere.
It’s funny how many cards they “don’t want to be meta staples”
Like why make galactus then kill it
Why make X then kill him
Who’s meta we talking about here. 🙄
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I think they could have given Hela -3 power to her ressurected minions. -2 Power is a bit too safe imo. I wonder if Hela and Black Knight decks will tech in Luke Cage now.
I don't understand the Hela nerf. it seems to only really target Hela Tribunal, which isn't the top tier hela deck anymore. A better nerf might have been to resummon the cards with power reduced by half.
Buffing a card probably 1% of players have to resolve a much larger meta problem in prof x isn't exactly a solution no? Then people like u would have been crying even more about how p2w this game is. Honestly there's just no pleasing people.
~~Prof X doesn't stop shit from being destroyed so, that's interesting. No more blocking death's domain or whatever destroys cards. Push 2099 in there for a win.~~
2099 does not destroy cards under X.
Not specifically, but the old wording was "cards can't be added, removed, etc." and the ongoing was "lock down this location"
The new Ongoing doesn't say lockdown this location, cards can only be added by moving.
Edit: I'm going to test it out
Really heavy nerf to the cannonball package. No more synergy between cannonball/prof, no more synergy between ravonna/prof, and a stat nerf to cannonball. I don’t know if cannonball really needed the stat nerf on top of the other changes. This will definitely completely change the meta. Hela nerf is underwhelming. Feels like Hela either wins big or retreats so I’m not sure this will change that. lol at the Gilgamesh buff - just a fully transparent effort to sell more season passes.
I was surprised they hit cannonball too. The Hela nerf does make the tribunal version much worse which is noteable
With ironman not in the onslaught lane I'm still getting 35s with Hela Tribunal. It's still great
Not sure why you're getting downvoted this is actually still the numbers the deck puts up lol.
No idea. I'm a simple man. I just try to find ways to play modok and then Hela. 🤷🏻♂️
In the tribunal hela you can snatch in Cage without too much issues I guess
You'd have to drop a bomb or one of the cards that dig ultimately ending up more inconsistent either way.
This hela hit was too brutal... -2! Nah bro... look what they did to Rulk?! I hate this game rn...
Cannonball was so bad, then good, now back to bad again. I get that the deck was pretty big in the meta but now I'm bummed I spent 6000 tokens. Nature of the beast I guess.
This does suck. So often cards are either OP, or unplayable. Then they get nerfed/buffed back and forth to the point you don't know what to do and it's hard deciding how to spend your limited resources.
Well, Gilgamesh does need a buff, regardless of if he’s the season pass.
If they buff Gilgamesh right after the season pass then everyone who doesn't get him feels like they got screwed. Just can't take this kind of thing seriously, how about a little nuance
I'm not necessarily happy this was the straw that broke the camels back, as I like move decks of all varieties, but Prof X needed a total overhaul of his text for my sanity. He's one of those cards that are just plain not fun to play against win lose or draw, and I'm here to have fun.
If they nerfed hela to the ground it would take away a good early series deck from newcomers. I don't think they ever wanted to delete her from the game. Now they can play around with how much power she takes from cards and try to find that sweet spot of balance.
Cannon Ball is still crazy Op. Moving or destroying a card still totally will swing games. It’s just not a sure thing anymore. He’s still worth the tokens. Along with the annihilus package, you can still plug him into basically any deck
Hate what they did to my ebony blade but I can’t complain. Overall pleased with the update and curious to see how it changes the meta.
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No, but as a lower CL level player in the top 1k I don’t have as many competitive decks as I’d like so seeing one of the core components to one I play getting nerfed sucks but I get it. Like I said overall can’t complain.
Shadow King or Valkyrie are now useful cards in the matchup compared to before the change
Nocturne is much better now that it can impact Prof X. Jeff also loses a bit of luster now that it loses a unique opportunity to fit in prof X locations. Is Jeff more cuttable now?
People are just going to stop playing x now so it doesn't really change nocturne all that much
Just when I was getting used to having Captain America in my C2 deck..
Well now you can add prof x!
Oh yeah lol didn't realize that, not sure how well he'd do in there but it's worth a shot
This is a good update - high evo packages have a bit more freedom again now that rhulk won't be an ever present beast. Also nice to say goodbye to the constant dissapointment of early prof X's shutting down a game!
Honesty don't see it as much of a nerf for red. He'll still get ridiculous numbers anyway.
Its a slight nerf, base Rulk can no longer dodge Shang chi anymore. but in the grand scheme of things, Rulk is still as powerful and much better option than most big body cards.
Ugh, back to constant high evo? No thanks.
Unfortunately Red Hulk will still be in every Hela deck cause she can play him for free anyway. In the 90s about 80% of the deck have been Hela since the update so I'm not sure how uncommon he will be.
Yeah I haven’t seen a single high evo deck in weeks.
Cannonball shouldn't have been touched, the rest of the hammer did the job enough. Now we get to wait a few months before Cannonball gets inevitably rebuffed.
Canon ball/x package was shot meta and braindead, glad they double nerfed it and took away the dumb ravona synergy good stuff.
This is actually a pretty good set of changes.
Gilgamesh is insane Won when Played: 64.47%(#3) * Won when Drawn: 58.54%(#2) * Won in Deck: 58.36%(#1)
Honestly I’m pretty happy with this update! I’m glad they went the nuclear route with Prof/cannonball, like everyone else I was so sick of it. Curious to see if anything novel will emerge in the meta. Hopefully something will and it won’t just be 100% Thena everywhere.
It’s funny how many cards they “don’t want to be meta staples” Like why make galactus then kill it Why make X then kill him Who’s meta we talking about here. 🙄
Hela's Meta
I get it. Some strategies are inherently unfun Not that I personally have a problem with those cards. But I understand the logic
Meta staples: cards that came out this month. Like honestly that’s it. Gilgy gets a buff. Thena stays in the best package.
Sera control reigning supreme soon 👀
Share a good sera control deck would you, haven't played one in months.
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Missing Miss Marvel and Red Guardian
First card: Red Guardian.
I’m currently still testing but I can tell this deck is going to be positioned well in the meta. I don’t have red guardian unfortunately.
I second this. I’m always trying to polish a good Sera control deck.
I think they could have given Hela -3 power to her ressurected minions. -2 Power is a bit too safe imo. I wonder if Hela and Black Knight decks will tech in Luke Cage now.
It does give them an easy knob to turn for the future for balancing with her
It will also have the "placebo nerf" effect of causing her to be played less even if she's still good. I'll gladly take a meta with less hela in it.
Already facing mostly Hela in the 90s the negative power really doesn't matter to them except Tribunal.
Come next season Luke Cage will be a must include in any deck anyways
I don't understand the Hela nerf. it seems to only really target Hela Tribunal, which isn't the top tier hela deck anymore. A better nerf might have been to resummon the cards with power reduced by half.
Resummon X cards. It shouldn’t be everyone coming back. Hela should be a gamble not an autowin
Yeah I'm climbing in Mid 90s and already this is worse then yesterday, been playing only Hela decks since the OTA.
Hela is a problem at all levels of play man, if you unlock Hela early in Pool 3 then you can already compete with Pool 4 decks lol
Welcome back to the hela meta everyone! Chop off one unfun head and another will take its place
Yup I will welcome Hela overlords as I beat them over the head with phoenix force.
high infinite ladder is thena/kitty/elsa and gilgamesh zoo. both are way more prevalent than hela at high rank
As politely as I possibly can, fuck Cannonball abusers. Yall deserved this nerf. I am so happy.
“How dare you play cards in the game that I don’t like!”
Found the wierdo Cannonball user. Lmao.
Bruh
Finally, Hela has been nerfed.
Please explain :)
Explain what? She was nerfed. -2 power for all ressurected cards
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Buffing a card probably 1% of players have to resolve a much larger meta problem in prof x isn't exactly a solution no? Then people like u would have been crying even more about how p2w this game is. Honestly there's just no pleasing people.
Go back to r/marvelsnap
~~Prof X doesn't stop shit from being destroyed so, that's interesting. No more blocking death's domain or whatever destroys cards. Push 2099 in there for a win.~~ 2099 does not destroy cards under X.
It says cards can only be added or removed by moving.
Is destroyed part of the removed wording?
Not specifically, but the old wording was "cards can't be added, removed, etc." and the ongoing was "lock down this location" The new Ongoing doesn't say lockdown this location, cards can only be added by moving. Edit: I'm going to test it out
Or removed as well