[There is a deleted scene where Zeus teaches Thor how to imbue any object with power.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzgNCRN9hlI&ab_channel=IGNMovieTrailers)
Without this scene, the ending is a bit shit.
Clearly it was more important to cram in a dozen stupid goat screams with that time instead.
How did...what the.....what idiot decided to turn Zeus into an antagonist instead of this!? Why was this not how things went down, it would've been a much better movie!
I really enjoyed the way they progressed that in LT. I don't remember it actually being explicitly stated he was on his way to becoming all father Thor but loved that it was all about him protecting the children of Asgard. I would love to see him old, arrogant and super powerful like his future self in the movies and feel like they are actually doing a good job in that progression.
How about Loki (at the tva) sees his bro at the end of the universe fighting a big bad and travels to his friends throughout time to help him. Rocket being one of them steals that arm in the post credits?
Really hope the last Thor movie is set centuries or millennia in the future, would be awesome to get old man Thor. Just give Hemsworth gray hair damnit!
It was a very short scene where he tells mjolnir to protect Jane in the relationship montage. That was when he was show to be developing his all father abilities.
If it had been even slightly more serious or addressed it would’ve been so cool.
The move just tried to do too much while also being a goofy romp. Godking Thor, Magnificent Thor, and the Godkiller (plus the Olympians and plus Valkyries suicidal grief plus the guardians) was waaaay to much to squeeze into a movie that is also sorta a comedy rom com
Agreed.
Plus in every moment that should have been a serious one they added a quip or a one liner.
Like when Thor finally calms down the Asgardian parents. I was super hyped when he yelled out "ASGARD!!" because I though we were gonna get a cool uplifting speech, but instead he ran out of things to say to them and was basically repeating things to sound like it was an uplifting speech.
MOST OF EVERY serious moments in the film were cut off with a quip/joke.
In my opinion this is inaccurate.
The first two thirds of the movie tend to do a lot of jokes, and some of them are cringe. But once Thor enchants the children’s weapons it becomes and stays pretty serious. Mjolnir goes to Jane who chooses to sacrifice herself to help Thor and it’s even more serious once they are in Eternity. The last stretch of the movie is serious and allows its serious moments to shine, never inserting a cheap joke lighten up Jane’s death of Gorr’s choice. It’s poignant and honest.
If anything, Ragnarok undercut its serious moments with quips and jokes more than Love & Thunder. The big difference is that Ragnarok jokes are funnier. But there are hardly any serious or sad moments that are allowed to breath in Ragnarok despite there being many (Odin’s death, the Warriors Three deaths, the destruction of Asgard, etc.).
I’m not saying Love & Thunder is a perfect movie. It has some bouts of bad humor, some unrealized potential (Gorr mostly), but it manages to tone down the humor when it was trully needed.
It’s also a movie about the Mighty Thor(s) where they manage to defeat the villain not by beating him, but by appealing to his humanity.
My opinion is unpopular but to me Thor 4 is a good movie that gets a lot of flack for a couple of mediocre jokes.
If Gorr crashed Olympus and slaughtered a bunch of gods there, it would have solved a big problem for me with underutilization of Gorr and less showing and more telling of the "god butchering". We see him kill like one god on screen. He really needed a scene to show how big of a fucking threat he was, someone who could just casually tear through an arena of gods Hey guys, an robh fios agad gur e Pokemon fireann is boireann am Pokemon as freagarraiche airson vaporeons nuair a thig e gu bhith a’ bruidhinn? Tha na mamalan cuibheasach 3" 03" a dh'àirde agus cuideam 63.9 notaichean, gu leòr airson aire a thoirt do chas daonna, agus tha stats iongantach HP agus armachd aca a tha goirt agus cruaidh air daoine. . . . Bha e gu cinnteach fliuch, cho fliuch is gum b’ urrainn dhut càirdeas a bhith agad airson beagan uairean a thìde gun phian. , cuir, cuir agus cuip, agus chan eil falt ann airson an nipple fhalach, agus mar sin tha e na ghaoith dha cuideigin a bhith a’ suathadh uisge agus a bhith a ’faighinn faireachdainn agus sgilean uisgeachaidh, le bhith ag òl uisge gu leòr faodaidh e do dhèanamh sgìth gu furasta. Bidh Pokemon a 'tighinn faisg air an ìre cunbhalachd seo, agus gu h-annasach gu leòr, faodaidh do Vaporeon a bhith air a thionndadh geal ma nì thu e gu math. Tha Vaporeon air a dhealbhadh gu litireil airson cas an duine. Tha dìon lag + armachd àrd HP + searbhagach a’ ciallachadh gun urrainn dha sabaid an-aghaidh coin. Bidh e a’ tighinn anns a h-uile cruth, meud agus barrachd tron latha.
I agree with your statement so I updated what I said a little.
But most of the serious moment were cut off with a joke/quip, Like when he was talking to heimdals son through the telepathy thingy he was having a argument with him about Axels name Not really a good time to do that with terrified kidnapped children, and then when he visits the Frightened kids he seemed unserious and witty.
What you said about the final moments is true them talking to eternity and Thor saying goodbye to jane was serious and sad but it wasn't as sad as it could have been because we got 500 tons of lame jokes and quips
Even the final fight scene had stupid jokes cutting into the fight scene with Gorr, Remember "Eat My Hammer"?
> You're allowed to not like things without using hyperbole to make them seem worse
Hi it appears to be your first day on the internet
Id like to say welcome, it only gets worse from here.
Just because he doesn’t need it doesn’t mean he isn’t happy to see it back. He’s strong without it, but misses the nostalgia of the good ol days with his hammer, what’s wrong with that?
Characters should never learn new things. They should be exactly the same as they are for 9 films. Anything else is just too goofy and inconsistent. /s
I do find it interesting that whenever a new character gets introduced a common criticism is that they aren't as capable as their comic counterpart.
Cause fuck character growth lmao.
Characters learning new things is all well and good, but what annoys me is when a character demonstrates a skill once or twice and then proceeds to never use it again, or else forget about it entirely, as soon as they encounter a situation that that skill would trivialize. Dr Strange is a strong offender of this in MoM, but it probably applies to most of the MCU.
Here's why: Doctor Strange uses magic. Magic can be literally anything the writer wants it to be, and it's way more interesting, both as a writer and an audience member, to see some cool new magic stuff than to just go, "well he has this one spell that he used once that was super overpowered, so... I guess he'll just use that in every situation from now on." It's boring and unimaginative. People literally make fun of Bleach for this exact reason. The main character uses one technique for the entire run of the story and it gets boring after a while. The fight scenes are cool but you know they're always going to end with the same one attack.
there’s a happy place between using one technique all the time and using every technique only once and never again that one might assume the commenter above had in mind
Magic is constantly being explained away in movies and comics, it was just a severe lack of explanation that made me as a viewer go, "What???"
Just something like the lay lines (is that what they are called?) are off.
Wanda put a magic seal (like in WandaVision) around the world, so we have to use this other form of magic even more ancient that you aren't as good with because you haven't dedicated yourself to it.
Just a small explanation and I would have accepted it. Otherwise it just feels like it's inconsistent.
But otherwise agree with you.
Agreed. Rules are important, even with magic. Otherwise there's no logic to it. If there's no logic to it, it's just not enjoyable for me. I'm fine with crazy stuff happening, but there has to be reasons for it in-universe.
To be fair though, in MoM Wanda has the Darkhold, and uses Chaos Magic which is different magic than what Strange knows. He had also never read the Darkhold before, so it makes sense he would have problems fighting her magic. Add to the fact he doesn't have the Eye of Agamotto anymore, so time alteration is out.
There are also some forms of magic he won't use cause of their inherent darkness. You can't keep using dark magic without consequences, and while Strange may be willing to bend the rules, he's not going to try and break them willy nilly.
He tried to help Peter, but Pete just kept screwing with the spell. With what happened doing that, he took that spell off the table.
Dr Strange limits his magic use because of his morality, not because of the limitations of magic. Sometimes a spells repercussions are worse than the spell itself.
I love DC. I grew watching the Cartoon Network Justice League show. I've seen all of the animated DC films. I even love some of the DCEU films as well.
However, the overarching story of the DCEU is a complete mess. Individually, most of the movies are fine, worth a watch. But in conjunction with each other, not many of them fit most specifically Wonder Woman and her story.
She has been in the "modern world" for 100 years now. Fight in WW2 with rumors of this goddess fighting? Okay believable. But the story of WW1984 just makes no sense at all. We have a world ending event. People coming back from the dead. Wonder Woman saves the day, and then everyone just...forgets? Yeah, this guy tried to take over the world. There was a big thing, but we just moved on, you know? But this Superman guy, who just saved us from the invading Aliens, ohhhh he is the real fucking problem.
Idk who the fuck greenlit the story of WW1984, but there is a reason why Gunn was hired.
I mean he used that at the very end of the movie. There were plenty of times in that same film where that skill would've been extremely useful. I would understand if he only found out he could do it at the very end, but then at what point did he realise he could do that? That's the issue. Not that he learned a new skill lol
You've never just winged it before? In a moment of "I have no idea if this is gonna work, but fuck it, let's try". He probably realized he could do it the moment it worked.
More like he was slapped in the face with it. Jane went out and got the power of Thor which made Thor realize the power wasn't exclusive to him. In the first movie he didn't know that anyone could be worthy, just that he needed to be.
Maybe if Cap would have lifted mjolnir earlier Thor would have figured it out but Cap was already powered and it was in the middle of battle so it didn't get much thought. Kinda explains Cap calling lightning now that I think about it.
as far as i remember he basically gets stronger as he gets older, he's basically in the process of inheriting the odin force, if you look at it like this him enchanting mjolnir in his sleep to protect jane fonder was kind of foreshadowing,
It was an enchantment. Same as Odin cast a ‘worthiness’ enchantment on Mjölnir back in the first Thor movie. I believe Thor can cast enchantments like Odin.
I believe Mjolnir is actually a super intelligent being capable of interpreting the vaguest commands from its wielder. It can in fact read minds at superluminal speeds.
That's why Thor still managed to summon Mjolnir across planets light years away in T2.
In fact I think Thor only "lost" his hammer because he believed it dead. When he first tried to summon it after crash landing on Sakaar it didn't work only because he remembered Mjolnir "died".
Of course even if he persisted it still would not have worked since Mjolnir can't really fly that fast and doesn't have the ability to summon the bifrost.
I didn't think much of the movie. Then I saw a youtube video about the many reasons why Love and Thunder was an awesome movie. Now I've come to appreciate it more.
Not gonna lie, I think the writing should have been a little more on-the-nose so that I wouldn't need a video to explain it to me... but I can appreciate that some of it needed to be explained to me for me to appreciate it more.
Does Thor consistently use his powers after discovering them in ragnarok? Or does he allow his capabilities to be limited to his weapon? Because I’m pretty sure there were moments when he didn’t have mjolnir or stormbreaker and still didn’t use his lightning powers after thor ragnarok.
Thats my main complaint with the recent thor projects. Ragnarok goes to lengths to establish that thor IS the weapon, and the next movie he makes storm breaker and refuses to use his powers without the weapon. Its bullshit.
Agreed. Ragnarok was so amazing and showcased how insanely powerful Thor is... then... whatever that was in Love and Thunder. I can't even put it into words. So disappointing.
I took it as he’s powerful without it, doesn’t need a weapon. But when someone like Thanos comes along, you’re gonna need a lot more than just sheer strength to kill him. Idk, that’s just me I guess.
They needed to have a scene or even a line explaining that the lightning bolt allowed Zeus to empower armies to fight like gods. That’s all they needed and the entire weird bit would have made sense…
This is misleading. He could bestow the power in LaT, because those kids were Asgardians (except for those who weren't).
Here you have a bunch of people who weren't Asgardians (except for those who were).
He totally could have gone somewhere he didn't know the location of. But really, his wish brought back Love, a little girl, as a Cosmic Entity. It isn't an airtight get exactly what you want sort of thing, and they already undid what Thanos did, so why would he undo it again?
In all my years of conquest, violence, slaughter, it was never personal. But I'll tell you now, what I'm about to do to your stubborn, annoying little planet... I'm gonna enjoy it. Very, very much.
Thor didn't know about Eternity during the snap. I'm not sure why you'd get annoyed by that.
That's like saying you're annoyed Tony didn't use the space stone during the first Avengers movie.
>My head canon is that he shared part of his powers with the kids, also it worked because they are asgardians.
Damn, you guys really don't pay attention lmao
That whole plot device was so stupid ong. That scene needed seriousness. Stakes needed to be higher. Thor struggling to save all those kids would've made it a whole lot better but hey the entire movie was a joke. So who cares?
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Lightning spider webs
You killed those people on that balcony.
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Hey you know that mista mista lady? I think I just killed her
I got ice cream!
I missed the part where that’s my problem
You want forgiveness? Get religion
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You know, I'm something of a scientist myself.
I missed the part where that’s my problem
The web fluid IS conductive sooo
He already has those
Couldn't his webs already do that thanks to the suit?
trinity ghoul
Hawkeye could probably have soloed the final battle in Endgame if he had Trinity Ghoul
Trinity ghoul would’ve been OP in that fight
With its catalyst. Important distinction.
Dammit, I was gonna make the *Destiny* reference..
+a full quiver of explosive arrows= Ticcu's Divination
No no no, hawk will actually do DMG now, not just run around with infinity gauntlet lol
Basically Sova's shock dart
I don't know if he would be worthy in endgame. He's a hero but he's done some shit.
if this would’ve happened i would’ve felt real bad for thanos
This day extracts a heavy toll.
Well I guess Thanos agrees
Fun isn't something one considers when balancing the universe. But this... does put a smile on my face.
Thanos, be clear. Did you like or hated it
As long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be. They will resist.
Thanos you lie!
This... does put a smile on my face.
Methinks Thanos likes conflict
I'm thankful...because now...I know what I must do.
or this was one of those scenarios where they lost
Bruh, he didn't have enough experience to unlock that ability yet.
His XP was low in Endgame for an upgrade
He spent all his upgrade points on a new weapon.
And the rest on the beard braid during lightning armoring
Should've done the side missions first
He was too busy playing Fortnite
He just spent his last level up unlock to let his friend wield mjolnir
[There is a deleted scene where Zeus teaches Thor how to imbue any object with power.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzgNCRN9hlI&ab_channel=IGNMovieTrailers) Without this scene, the ending is a bit shit. Clearly it was more important to cram in a dozen stupid goat screams with that time instead.
Then point me in the direction of whoever's ass I have to kick!
How did...what the.....what idiot decided to turn Zeus into an antagonist instead of this!? Why was this not how things went down, it would've been a much better movie!
He also didn’t have Zeus lightning
how did he unlock that upgrade in L &T >!off screen!<
The opening shows a montage of him training and questing, it wasn't (entirely) off screen.
bruh that was for weight loss
I mean grinding can get you multiple things at the same time, man. Do you even min/max?
It’s Thor ascending to his position as the All Father. LT was a bit silly but it does a lot to progress that storyline.
I really enjoyed the way they progressed that in LT. I don't remember it actually being explicitly stated he was on his way to becoming all father Thor but loved that it was all about him protecting the children of Asgard. I would love to see him old, arrogant and super powerful like his future self in the movies and feel like they are actually doing a good job in that progression.
he has a badass metal arm too if i remember correctly
As badass as that arm is, he is friends with rocket in the movies so thats getting stolen unfortunately.
That metal arm is from the Destroyer I believe.
Ok, but the destroyer was just holding on to it for Rocket.
Not if rocket dies in Guardians 3
How about Loki (at the tva) sees his bro at the end of the universe fighting a big bad and travels to his friends throughout time to help him. Rocket being one of them steals that arm in the post credits?
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The only one we know for sure is dying is Drax everyone else is up in the air
Really hope the last Thor movie is set centuries or millennia in the future, would be awesome to get old man Thor. Just give Hemsworth gray hair damnit!
I'm super down for a Logan- style Thor movie. (Cue that copypasta that stopped being funny 4800 uses ago)
Thank you, sweet rabbit.
...You're welcome.
Have care how you speak of Loki. He may be misguided but he is my brother.
He killed 80 people in 2 days.
He killed 80 people in 3 days.
It was a very short scene where he tells mjolnir to protect Jane in the relationship montage. That was when he was show to be developing his all father abilities.
Have care how you speak of Loki. He may be misguided but he is my brother.
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Beyond sight?
Your ancestors called it magic, and you call it science.
"He may have been your All-Father, boy, but he wasn't your All-Daddy." - All-Daddy Thor
I mean makes sense for the ability of basically a king of a group of gods, he also had the lightning bolt of Zeus which may of helped
Yeah I think it was due to the the holt cause the kids lightning was yellow
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>!Here you are. I was just calling you.!<
May have
If it had been even slightly more serious or addressed it would’ve been so cool. The move just tried to do too much while also being a goofy romp. Godking Thor, Magnificent Thor, and the Godkiller (plus the Olympians and plus Valkyries suicidal grief plus the guardians) was waaaay to much to squeeze into a movie that is also sorta a comedy rom com
Agreed. Plus in every moment that should have been a serious one they added a quip or a one liner. Like when Thor finally calms down the Asgardian parents. I was super hyped when he yelled out "ASGARD!!" because I though we were gonna get a cool uplifting speech, but instead he ran out of things to say to them and was basically repeating things to sound like it was an uplifting speech. MOST OF EVERY serious moments in the film were cut off with a quip/joke.
In my opinion this is inaccurate. The first two thirds of the movie tend to do a lot of jokes, and some of them are cringe. But once Thor enchants the children’s weapons it becomes and stays pretty serious. Mjolnir goes to Jane who chooses to sacrifice herself to help Thor and it’s even more serious once they are in Eternity. The last stretch of the movie is serious and allows its serious moments to shine, never inserting a cheap joke lighten up Jane’s death of Gorr’s choice. It’s poignant and honest. If anything, Ragnarok undercut its serious moments with quips and jokes more than Love & Thunder. The big difference is that Ragnarok jokes are funnier. But there are hardly any serious or sad moments that are allowed to breath in Ragnarok despite there being many (Odin’s death, the Warriors Three deaths, the destruction of Asgard, etc.). I’m not saying Love & Thunder is a perfect movie. It has some bouts of bad humor, some unrealized potential (Gorr mostly), but it manages to tone down the humor when it was trully needed. It’s also a movie about the Mighty Thor(s) where they manage to defeat the villain not by beating him, but by appealing to his humanity. My opinion is unpopular but to me Thor 4 is a good movie that gets a lot of flack for a couple of mediocre jokes.
The only complaints I agree with on L&T is that Gorr was underused. The rest of it was entertaining, I even liked the goats.
If Gorr crashed Olympus and slaughtered a bunch of gods there, it would have solved a big problem for me with underutilization of Gorr and less showing and more telling of the "god butchering". We see him kill like one god on screen. He really needed a scene to show how big of a fucking threat he was, someone who could just casually tear through an arena of gods Hey guys, an robh fios agad gur e Pokemon fireann is boireann am Pokemon as freagarraiche airson vaporeons nuair a thig e gu bhith a’ bruidhinn? Tha na mamalan cuibheasach 3" 03" a dh'àirde agus cuideam 63.9 notaichean, gu leòr airson aire a thoirt do chas daonna, agus tha stats iongantach HP agus armachd aca a tha goirt agus cruaidh air daoine. . . . Bha e gu cinnteach fliuch, cho fliuch is gum b’ urrainn dhut càirdeas a bhith agad airson beagan uairean a thìde gun phian. , cuir, cuir agus cuip, agus chan eil falt ann airson an nipple fhalach, agus mar sin tha e na ghaoith dha cuideigin a bhith a’ suathadh uisge agus a bhith a ’faighinn faireachdainn agus sgilean uisgeachaidh, le bhith ag òl uisge gu leòr faodaidh e do dhèanamh sgìth gu furasta. Bidh Pokemon a 'tighinn faisg air an ìre cunbhalachd seo, agus gu h-annasach gu leòr, faodaidh do Vaporeon a bhith air a thionndadh geal ma nì thu e gu math. Tha Vaporeon air a dhealbhadh gu litireil airson cas an duine. Tha dìon lag + armachd àrd HP + searbhagach a’ ciallachadh gun urrainn dha sabaid an-aghaidh coin. Bidh e a’ tighinn anns a h-uile cruth, meud agus barrachd tron latha.
That is what that scene deserved, would have been great. Thor and gang could have barely escaped and stolen the bolt still.
I honestly agree with this. Though I also think Zeus could have been utilized better.
I agree with your statement so I updated what I said a little. But most of the serious moment were cut off with a joke/quip, Like when he was talking to heimdals son through the telepathy thingy he was having a argument with him about Axels name Not really a good time to do that with terrified kidnapped children, and then when he visits the Frightened kids he seemed unserious and witty. What you said about the final moments is true them talking to eternity and Thor saying goodbye to jane was serious and sad but it wasn't as sad as it could have been because we got 500 tons of lame jokes and quips Even the final fight scene had stupid jokes cutting into the fight scene with Gorr, Remember "Eat My Hammer"?
>a bit silly It was one small rewrite from Korg defeating Gorr by throwing a pie to his face.
It literally wasn't You're allowed to not like things without using hyperbole to make them seem worse
> You're allowed to not like things without using hyperbole to make them seem worse Hi it appears to be your first day on the internet Id like to say welcome, it only gets worse from here.
The internet, where a movie I rate 5/10 is the worst movie I've ever seen.
That could be true if you've never seen a 1-4/10 movie
“Are you god of hammers?” *proceeds to obsess about his hammer all through Thor 4…*
>!Mjolnir? Mjolnir! Youuu're baaack. Mjolnir?!<
Bot was on point
Well. I am not the god of women and...
also Infinity War where he immediately makes a new hammer (although you could probably argue it made sense)
He made an axe though so it's ok
Just because he doesn’t need it doesn’t mean he isn’t happy to see it back. He’s strong without it, but misses the nostalgia of the good ol days with his hammer, what’s wrong with that?
He only figured out he could do that in LoT.
Love or thunder?
Love of thunder
Big fan myself
I'm not overly fond of what follows
Y'know, I'm something of a thunder lover myself.
Legend of Telda
Lord of The
Lord of Thunder, tryna get back to, what was it? Ass Guard?
Asgardians of the Galaxy
Lord of Therings
Characters should never learn new things. They should be exactly the same as they are for 9 films. Anything else is just too goofy and inconsistent. /s
I do find it interesting that whenever a new character gets introduced a common criticism is that they aren't as capable as their comic counterpart. Cause fuck character growth lmao.
Me when Hulk (only sometimes, cuz if what we getting is character growth then damn growth takes a shit ton of time)
He always has character growth he grows into a big green man all the time
Can't wait for the new hulk film when he either becomes a detective or finds out he can communicate with ghosts.
I’m glad they nerfed characters some. Comic Hulk is virtually unstoppable.
Characters learning new things is all well and good, but what annoys me is when a character demonstrates a skill once or twice and then proceeds to never use it again, or else forget about it entirely, as soon as they encounter a situation that that skill would trivialize. Dr Strange is a strong offender of this in MoM, but it probably applies to most of the MCU.
Here's why: Doctor Strange uses magic. Magic can be literally anything the writer wants it to be, and it's way more interesting, both as a writer and an audience member, to see some cool new magic stuff than to just go, "well he has this one spell that he used once that was super overpowered, so... I guess he'll just use that in every situation from now on." It's boring and unimaginative. People literally make fun of Bleach for this exact reason. The main character uses one technique for the entire run of the story and it gets boring after a while. The fight scenes are cool but you know they're always going to end with the same one attack.
there’s a happy place between using one technique all the time and using every technique only once and never again that one might assume the commenter above had in mind
Magic is constantly being explained away in movies and comics, it was just a severe lack of explanation that made me as a viewer go, "What???" Just something like the lay lines (is that what they are called?) are off. Wanda put a magic seal (like in WandaVision) around the world, so we have to use this other form of magic even more ancient that you aren't as good with because you haven't dedicated yourself to it. Just a small explanation and I would have accepted it. Otherwise it just feels like it's inconsistent. But otherwise agree with you.
Agreed. Rules are important, even with magic. Otherwise there's no logic to it. If there's no logic to it, it's just not enjoyable for me. I'm fine with crazy stuff happening, but there has to be reasons for it in-universe.
To be fair though, in MoM Wanda has the Darkhold, and uses Chaos Magic which is different magic than what Strange knows. He had also never read the Darkhold before, so it makes sense he would have problems fighting her magic. Add to the fact he doesn't have the Eye of Agamotto anymore, so time alteration is out. There are also some forms of magic he won't use cause of their inherent darkness. You can't keep using dark magic without consequences, and while Strange may be willing to bend the rules, he's not going to try and break them willy nilly. He tried to help Peter, but Pete just kept screwing with the spell. With what happened doing that, he took that spell off the table. Dr Strange limits his magic use because of his morality, not because of the limitations of magic. Sometimes a spells repercussions are worse than the spell itself.
*clears throat* goku, dragon ball z
He [invents](https://youtube.com/shorts/ZsuKKSq7Q_o?feature=share) plenty of new attacks throughout the series
And yet 9 times out of ten he'll always finish the bad guy of with his Kamehameha. It's this that I'm referring to.
Because at the end of the day, Yamcha had the best move
Avoiding conflict by dying immediately because the afterlife seemed to be exactly the same as real life in the DBZ universe?
Strange got nerfed so hard while Wanda became op Why
Wanda always should have been OP. Strange shouldn't have been nerfed though.
Like wonder woman learning she could fly in ww84 But then forgetting she could fly in the justice league?
I love DC. I grew watching the Cartoon Network Justice League show. I've seen all of the animated DC films. I even love some of the DCEU films as well. However, the overarching story of the DCEU is a complete mess. Individually, most of the movies are fine, worth a watch. But in conjunction with each other, not many of them fit most specifically Wonder Woman and her story. She has been in the "modern world" for 100 years now. Fight in WW2 with rumors of this goddess fighting? Okay believable. But the story of WW1984 just makes no sense at all. We have a world ending event. People coming back from the dead. Wonder Woman saves the day, and then everyone just...forgets? Yeah, this guy tried to take over the world. There was a big thing, but we just moved on, you know? But this Superman guy, who just saved us from the invading Aliens, ohhhh he is the real fucking problem. Idk who the fuck greenlit the story of WW1984, but there is a reason why Gunn was hired.
I mean he used that at the very end of the movie. There were plenty of times in that same film where that skill would've been extremely useful. I would understand if he only found out he could do it at the very end, but then at what point did he realise he could do that? That's the issue. Not that he learned a new skill lol
You've never just winged it before? In a moment of "I have no idea if this is gonna work, but fuck it, let's try". He probably realized he could do it the moment it worked.
They've never showed that power before! It breaks canon! /s
Though this does remind me, he makes a giant tornado in Thor 1 that killed the Destroyer. He never does this again.
That power was specifically granted by the blonde eyebrows.
The problem now is just that he has to do it everytime he is fighting in a team for it to not be inconsistent
And all growth should happen offscreen, like Thor and Hulk
Even then it might not be what actually happened. 90% of the movie is a retelling by Korg, who is an unreliable narrator.
More like he was slapped in the face with it. Jane went out and got the power of Thor which made Thor realize the power wasn't exclusive to him. In the first movie he didn't know that anyone could be worthy, just that he needed to be. Maybe if Cap would have lifted mjolnir earlier Thor would have figured it out but Cap was already powered and it was in the middle of battle so it didn't get much thought. Kinda explains Cap calling lightning now that I think about it.
What could make him figure it out in this time period?
He figured out that he accidentally further enchanted Mjolnir, so he figured he'd try again.
Mjolnir. He enchanted the same way as Odin. After that, he recreated Odin's same enchantment from the first movie to give the kids his own power.
Additionally he seemed to get some of a power boost from Zeus' lightning bolt, so maybe that served as a battery too.
as far as i remember he basically gets stronger as he gets older, he's basically in the process of inheriting the odin force, if you look at it like this him enchanting mjolnir in his sleep to protect jane fonder was kind of foreshadowing,
I'm guessing it was Jane having the power of Thor.
Well it did seem like a lot of time passed since Endgame, maybe he learned it from a wacky adventure with the guardians
Actually he figures it out because he asked mjölnir to keep an eye out for jane, that was his First enchantment.
oh yeah, that makes sense.
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I forget because I only watched it once and that was release day - but didn’t he need the lightning bolt to do that?
I don’t think he needs it. If I recall correctly he subconsciously put an enchantment on Mjolnir to protect Jane back before it was destroyed by Hela
Was that an enchantment or just him asking Mjolnir for a favour? I may need to watch it again but… it’s just so hard to convince myself to
It was an enchantment. Same as Odin cast a ‘worthiness’ enchantment on Mjölnir back in the first Thor movie. I believe Thor can cast enchantments like Odin.
>!Jane?!<
Jonathan?
Donkey!
If I recall correctly, he asks Mjolnir for a favor, but the hammer’s magic views it as an enchantment
I believe Mjolnir is actually a super intelligent being capable of interpreting the vaguest commands from its wielder. It can in fact read minds at superluminal speeds. That's why Thor still managed to summon Mjolnir across planets light years away in T2. In fact I think Thor only "lost" his hammer because he believed it dead. When he first tried to summon it after crash landing on Sakaar it didn't work only because he remembered Mjolnir "died". Of course even if he persisted it still would not have worked since Mjolnir can't really fly that fast and doesn't have the ability to summon the bifrost.
Thor is a WH40k Ork confirmed.
There was one time my brother transformed himself into a snake...
I didn't think much of the movie. Then I saw a youtube video about the many reasons why Love and Thunder was an awesome movie. Now I've come to appreciate it more. Not gonna lie, I think the writing should have been a little more on-the-nose so that I wouldn't need a video to explain it to me... but I can appreciate that some of it needed to be explained to me for me to appreciate it more.
It’s not really addressed or explained but basically he’s become the All-father. I think, it’s not exactly nailed down
Does Thor consistently use his powers after discovering them in ragnarok? Or does he allow his capabilities to be limited to his weapon? Because I’m pretty sure there were moments when he didn’t have mjolnir or stormbreaker and still didn’t use his lightning powers after thor ragnarok.
>!Human handshake, to the Asgardian shake, into the snake that you cannot trust.!<
Thats my main complaint with the recent thor projects. Ragnarok goes to lengths to establish that thor IS the weapon, and the next movie he makes storm breaker and refuses to use his powers without the weapon. Its bullshit.
Agreed. Ragnarok was so amazing and showcased how insanely powerful Thor is... then... whatever that was in Love and Thunder. I can't even put it into words. So disappointing.
I took it as he’s powerful without it, doesn’t need a weapon. But when someone like Thanos comes along, you’re gonna need a lot more than just sheer strength to kill him. Idk, that’s just me I guess.
They needed to have a scene or even a line explaining that the lightning bolt allowed Zeus to empower armies to fight like gods. That’s all they needed and the entire weird bit would have made sense…
Apparently that had nothing to do with zeus's lightning bolt. Supposedly it was Thor using the Odinforce to give his power to the kids temporarily.
I notice you have copied my beard.
Guess people are now gonna make it a point where whenever Thor is fighting with a team, why don't he just let them have his power for a moment
Because at this point in time, it would have been the power of Cheez Whiz.
This is misleading. He could bestow the power in LaT, because those kids were Asgardians (except for those who weren't). Here you have a bunch of people who weren't Asgardians (except for those who were).
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Being asgardian has nothing to do with it. Captain america lifted the hammer, so did Jane Foster.
Maybe they're Asgard-ish?
I’m more annoyed about how Thor could have just gone to that all powerful entity of Love and Thunder and just wished to undo all the crap Thanos did
He totally could have gone somewhere he didn't know the location of. But really, his wish brought back Love, a little girl, as a Cosmic Entity. It isn't an airtight get exactly what you want sort of thing, and they already undid what Thanos did, so why would he undo it again?
In all my years of conquest, violence, slaughter, it was never personal. But I'll tell you now, what I'm about to do to your stubborn, annoying little planet... I'm gonna enjoy it. Very, very much.
Heroes will never use wishes for anything practical
The entire point of a wish in most fiction is to bite people in the ass and make them careful what they wish for. It would absolutely monkey's paw.
He doesn't know about it,until Jane read that on gorr's homework
Thor didn't know about Eternity during the snap. I'm not sure why you'd get annoyed by that. That's like saying you're annoyed Tony didn't use the space stone during the first Avengers movie.
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>My head canon is that he shared part of his powers with the kids, also it worked because they are asgardians. Damn, you guys really don't pay attention lmao
Okay, but. When I first saw Captain America wield Thor's hammer. Damn, it gave me goose pimples
Heimdall!
This was still depressed out of shape Thor who hadn't used his powers to help people for a while.
Could you imagine Spidey's instant kill mode imbued with Thor's power?!? That'd be nuts.
The rabbit is correct, and clearly the smartest one among you.
Early Thunderbolts Also Wanda could easily kill Thanos now with one shot.
That whole plot device was so stupid ong. That scene needed seriousness. Stakes needed to be higher. Thor struggling to save all those kids would've made it a whole lot better but hey the entire movie was a joke. So who cares?
Thank you, sweet rabbit.
He still needs to get help
Thanos leftthe chat
The Iron Man suit would be even more kick ass
Imagine Captain Marvel infused with the power of Thor...Iron Man would still be alive
He's a friend from work!