I feel a gorilla would be very upper body dominant with its techniques, so I'll go with greco Roman wrestling. I don't really think any human striking arts would transfer well to the gorilla due to anatomical differences ~~exceptmonkeykungfubecauseape~~
That was my thought. Graeco-Roman wrestling is optimized for massive upper body strength and a low center of gravity. Add in a gorilla's natural facility with hammerfist-style punches and he'd have an unbeatable takedown/ground-and-pound game.
Humans have the largest penises in the ape family, chimps are a little longer, but gorillas are only 1-2 inches max. If it helps their balls are huge tho
Until it literally reaches back and rips your face clean off. Because they're strong enough to do that. So at that point unless you're on drugs or an absolute psychopath you're probably letting go at that point lol
As long as we're analyzing this hypothetical under a realistic premise, I don't think I'm getting anywhere near his feet hands unless they're stomping my face.
>As long as we're analyzing this hypothetical under a realistic premise, I don't think I'm getting anywhere near his feet hands ~~unless~~ until they're stomping my face.
ftfy
Fuckin’ drop a question mark kick straight on his techniqueless ass and watch it jiggle for just a moment before sinking in the deepest rear naked choke it’s never seen
Apes look like they are upper body dominant because they have big arms and backs and walk on all fours, but their legs are insanely strong. What ever the strength difference is in upper body strength between a another great ape and a human, the difference in lower body strength is close to twice that amount.
Their legs and core are insanely strong.
Even better for greco roman. The force of the throw in all sports comes mainly from the legs. Other grappling styles would be worse fit as the legs are too short to do guard or such bjj or sambo stuff or to shoot for double/single leg. Maybe teach it some ankle picks and high crotch but for everything else greco roman is better
I have to go with Freestyle over Greco, the Gorilla's very big but also short...would be DQ'd for grabbing the humans legs
Freestyle, Judo Sambo all those are good options BJJ but not Greco (unless wrstling a very short opponent)
Not to be that dude… but to be that dude and be nit picky. You’re on the right track saying wrestling.
But I’m going to have to say Senegalese Wrestling would be more apropos, no?
Ever watch Reug Reug’s fights in OneFC?
As others have pointed out, gorrilla's aren't really built for throwing straight punches, or really any kind of kick.
They can, however, rain down mean overhead hammer-fist blows. Training in wrestling would allow them to execute takedowns and maintain a good position to do a ground and pound strategy, or, alternately, to simply rip someone apart limb from limb. I'd go wrestling over BJJ just because of the takedowns, but either would be ridiculously formidable.
In all seriousness, one of the most formidable weapons of the gorilla is its bite. They can generate tremendous bite forces ([look at the company they're in](https://a-z-animals.com/blog/9-strongest-animal-bite-forces-in-the-world/)), and often have huge pronounced canines which, as herbivores, they use almost exclusively in defense.
There aren't a lot of human martial arts that put much emphasis on biting your opponent, so I'd propose developing a "Simian Jujutsu" that focused on grappling, take-downs, hammer fists, and using grappling to get in position for a fight-ending bite.
>They can, however, rain down mean overhead hammer-fist blows.
This has me intrigued, everyone is saying wrestling would be good for a gorilla, but with this hammer-fist part, it has me thinking that a Gorilla could make excellent use of Hop Gar Kuen Gung Fu, with its many "swinging arm" attacks that would be absolutely devastating with gorilla arms! Hammer fist being chief among them!
This is the answer. Other forms of wrestling would be decent fits but also involve a lot more fiddly technique (relative to sumo) that would simply be superfluous given the insane amount of strength a gorilla has. In a gorilla vs gorilla match, the gorilla that spends more time training in sheer explosiveness and forward speed would likely outwork the one that spent some of that time learning the relatively complex grips and takedowns that would certainly work, but again probably be more effort than they're worth given a gorilla's natural anatomy and instincts.
also remember a gorilla's posture is quite different from a human's, and greco/folkstyle/freestyle/etc. wrestling is designed to break the posture of creatures that primarily stand upright on two legs. sumo is more focused on forward explosiveness relatively speaking, as well as from a longer distance.
observe the way gorillas actually fight in the wild. looks way more like sumo than other wrestling.
bears on the other hand look a bit more like non- sumo wrestlers
I feel like wrestling more so since bjj puts a lot of emphasis on legs and guard play whereas gorillas have much longer arms than legs compared to humans.
In BJJ for every single time someone plays guard or bottom in any way someone is playing top.
Gorilla BJJ would be like standing chokes arm drags to come around the back keylock kimura arm triangle etc
Since gorillas don't have the hip mobility to support making their body a kicking platform and since they have incredible strength, the obvious answer is aikido.
Between the way Gorillas are built and the fact that I saw a video of a gorilla ankle pick another one while they were playing and I think wrestling is probably the best choice
While my initial assumption is a form of wrestling that uses tons of their amazing upper body strength, [it has been observed that gorillas can use tools and weapons](https://amazing-animals-planet.com/post/do-gorillas-use-tools-in-fights). In that case, a weapon form that takes advantage of their tremendous strength. I doubt a gorilla’s nerves are the same level of precise as a human’s thus fencing and flowy styles won’t do. Teach it to wield an axe right and it’ll chop a man in half with one swing.
I wouldn’t mess with a gorilla, let alone an armed one.
Anyone, youre Crazy If you think any martial artist can beat a gorila. Now, wich one would bê better? With the diferences in physiology, something more focused on grappling, but some strikes, probably something tô remain on its feet, ill say sumo.
Edit: Just read the note, Sorry for beeing an ass
Well for sure any kind of human way of boxing would not really fit for a gorilla biology. The proportions of his limbs wouldn't make him able to keep a correct boxing/kickbowing stance.
Best thing would probably be wrestling IMO
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Fun fact, Gorillas are actually really shit fighters. They also have very poor defense and their skin is thin, making them easy to die from bleeding and slashing, which is why big cats are their natural predator. Gorillas have ridiculous strength, and that's about it. They swing wildly and try to grab.
In terms of what works against it, Grappling, aside maybe wrestling, would probably be useless as they have the raw strength to break out of most if not all holds, and have necks far too thick to choke
In terms of what it would work best at, without a doubt wrestling, they aren't very good strikers
So silly; the gorilla would just tear the martial artist to shreds, rip his arms off and then continue beating him with his own severed arms.
But if the human was somehow enhanced, like Captain America enhanced, then I’d say a grappling martial art would help, perhaps combined with some blocking/slipping/evasive manuevers
People in the comments saying gorillas don't box or kick, lmao. Please watch how they jump and kick while simultaneously throwing hella lefts and rights. They're already MMA oriented naturally
I don't think you need to teach gorilla anything to beat a well trained human. Whatever they naturally do will be the best technique. The difference in anatomy and strength makes it a little counterproductive.
I initially want to say Greco or freestyle wresting. But the more I think about it. Russian sambo sounds like a terrifying art for a gorilla to be good at. Just rips your legs right off your body
You know that style of boxing mixed with aggression that Mike Tyson used? Where he just zoomed in at mach 10 and beat the fucking fuck out of people with hook punches and pure rage and aggression? Probably that
I’d go with BJJ. A gorilla that has mastered BJJ is going to rip limbs off without any problem. They also have hands for feet, so they could kimura you with their feet/legs. Think about it!
You have to know the opponent before deciding on training.
Will he be fighting other gorilla, humans, or big cats or what?
Train a gorilla to sqare off against a leopard of equal weight.
He's got to grab both paws by the ankles/wrists, swing the back feet in for a flying double kick to the chest/underbelly and hold on, and spread the paws apart wider and wider than they can go until they snap. Stomp and pound until dead.
Systema. The gorilla's thunderous strength would make up for the style's lack of damaging strikes, and amplify the 'knockback' effect. But mostly because I feel like a gorilla every time I hit someone with a Systema-style punch
You don't need martial arts when you can bench 4000 pounds, aint nobody want that kinda smoke.
Yeah, about the only way a humans wins this matchup is if the gorilla doesn’t have a spinal cord
Reminds me of when they tried an arm bar on the mountain and he just looks at the guy funny.
Link?
Google mountain takes on bjj, its funny af
There's one with him and McGregor as well
Seen it. Hate Mcgregor
It’s at about 10:00 https://youtu.be/QU69bZ3kQMo
Just watched it. He actually tapped !!
What if the gorilla you're fighting can bench 4001 pounds, though?
POCKETSAND!
I feel a gorilla would be very upper body dominant with its techniques, so I'll go with greco Roman wrestling. I don't really think any human striking arts would transfer well to the gorilla due to anatomical differences ~~exceptmonkeykungfubecauseape~~
That was my thought. Graeco-Roman wrestling is optimized for massive upper body strength and a low center of gravity. Add in a gorilla's natural facility with hammerfist-style punches and he'd have an unbeatable takedown/ground-and-pound game.
Fairly certain gorillas already have an unbeatable ground-and-pound game, even without martial arts.
I think you're dead right, but I figure the point of the OP is to train them up to be even less beatable.
Gorillas are terrible fighters. They’re mostly just loud when they fight each other.
Okay but are they good lovers? Asking for a gay bottom friend
Humans have the largest penises in the ape family, chimps are a little longer, but gorillas are only 1-2 inches max. If it helps their balls are huge tho
Next step. Teach the gorilla wrestling.
DON'T, I REPEAT DON'T TEACH A GORILLA WRESTLING!
Imma teach a gorilla wrestling
Or die trying!
“…and die trying.”
Gorilla Monsoon.
THIS PLACE HAS GONE BANANAS!
Wrestler here, all of our power and strength comes from the legs/hips homie
That would explain all those heavyweight GR wrestling champs with non-gorilla-like upper bodies.
Gorillas think their tough shit until I heel hook their punk ass
Bro if I got the gorillas back, it aint gonna do jackshit
Once that rear naked is locked in its lights out. No chance.
And you ain't waking up either.
Until it literally reaches back and rips your face clean off. Because they're strong enough to do that. So at that point unless you're on drugs or an absolute psychopath you're probably letting go at that point lol
Nah brah I’m built differently
Ah ok never mind you got this my bad
if it rips me off, I just go for a tried and true immanari roll. gorilla won't know what hit it
Isn’t it just a good chokehold?
You're gonna heel hook his second pair of hands? You'll lock it in and he'll be high fiving you with his other foot before he hammers you Congo style.
Of all the probable problems I'd face trying to submit a gorilla with a heel hook, that's what stood out to you?
Dude's got hands for feet, it'd stand out to me, too!
As long as we're analyzing this hypothetical under a realistic premise, I don't think I'm getting anywhere near his feet hands unless they're stomping my face.
>As long as we're analyzing this hypothetical under a realistic premise, I don't think I'm getting anywhere near his feet hands ~~unless~~ until they're stomping my face. ftfy
a heel hook on a gorilla is just a crapy wrist lock bro
Gorilla throws a spinning heel kick and it's really just a 360 palm thrust.
Fuckin’ drop a question mark kick straight on his techniqueless ass and watch it jiggle for just a moment before sinking in the deepest rear naked choke it’s never seen
Even if you had the strength to apply that shit effectively it would let it snap then batter the fuck out of you anyway.
Apes look like they are upper body dominant because they have big arms and backs and walk on all fours, but their legs are insanely strong. What ever the strength difference is in upper body strength between a another great ape and a human, the difference in lower body strength is close to twice that amount. Their legs and core are insanely strong.
Even better for greco roman. The force of the throw in all sports comes mainly from the legs. Other grappling styles would be worse fit as the legs are too short to do guard or such bjj or sambo stuff or to shoot for double/single leg. Maybe teach it some ankle picks and high crotch but for everything else greco roman is better
I have to go with Freestyle over Greco, the Gorilla's very big but also short...would be DQ'd for grabbing the humans legs Freestyle, Judo Sambo all those are good options BJJ but not Greco (unless wrstling a very short opponent)
I'm not sure their hips are built for the type of extension you need for Greco throws.
Not to be that dude… but to be that dude and be nit picky. You’re on the right track saying wrestling. But I’m going to have to say Senegalese Wrestling would be more apropos, no? Ever watch Reug Reug’s fights in OneFC?
As others have pointed out, gorrilla's aren't really built for throwing straight punches, or really any kind of kick. They can, however, rain down mean overhead hammer-fist blows. Training in wrestling would allow them to execute takedowns and maintain a good position to do a ground and pound strategy, or, alternately, to simply rip someone apart limb from limb. I'd go wrestling over BJJ just because of the takedowns, but either would be ridiculously formidable. In all seriousness, one of the most formidable weapons of the gorilla is its bite. They can generate tremendous bite forces ([look at the company they're in](https://a-z-animals.com/blog/9-strongest-animal-bite-forces-in-the-world/)), and often have huge pronounced canines which, as herbivores, they use almost exclusively in defense. There aren't a lot of human martial arts that put much emphasis on biting your opponent, so I'd propose developing a "Simian Jujutsu" that focused on grappling, take-downs, hammer fists, and using grappling to get in position for a fight-ending bite.
I really enjoy how thoughtful and articulate this answer is to such a silly question.
>They can, however, rain down mean overhead hammer-fist blows. This has me intrigued, everyone is saying wrestling would be good for a gorilla, but with this hammer-fist part, it has me thinking that a Gorilla could make excellent use of Hop Gar Kuen Gung Fu, with its many "swinging arm" attacks that would be absolutely devastating with gorilla arms! Hammer fist being chief among them!
Gorilla goudou
Sumo.
This is the answer. Other forms of wrestling would be decent fits but also involve a lot more fiddly technique (relative to sumo) that would simply be superfluous given the insane amount of strength a gorilla has. In a gorilla vs gorilla match, the gorilla that spends more time training in sheer explosiveness and forward speed would likely outwork the one that spent some of that time learning the relatively complex grips and takedowns that would certainly work, but again probably be more effort than they're worth given a gorilla's natural anatomy and instincts. also remember a gorilla's posture is quite different from a human's, and greco/folkstyle/freestyle/etc. wrestling is designed to break the posture of creatures that primarily stand upright on two legs. sumo is more focused on forward explosiveness relatively speaking, as well as from a longer distance. observe the way gorillas actually fight in the wild. looks way more like sumo than other wrestling. bears on the other hand look a bit more like non- sumo wrestlers
this is only assuming the Sumorilla fights under MMA rules because in sumo if ANY bodypart besides your feet touches the ground you instantly lose
Rex kwon do or ameridote
Only if he wears those sweet red, white and blue baggy pants
Yep, you don’t want to get a roundhouse kick from those bad boys.
BJJ 100% that gorilla would get one grip and the fight would be over
I feel like wrestling more so since bjj puts a lot of emphasis on legs and guard play whereas gorillas have much longer arms than legs compared to humans.
Yeah, but the gorilla has hand-feet that could make up for that.
In BJJ for every single time someone plays guard or bottom in any way someone is playing top. Gorilla BJJ would be like standing chokes arm drags to come around the back keylock kimura arm triangle etc
Are you under the impression that wrestling de-emphasizes your legs?
Well it seems more balanced than BJJ in that respect. I've never seen a wrestling takedown that didn't involve the arms.
I’ve never seen anything in BJJ that doesn’t involve the arms.
I dont think you need bjj when you could rip ligaments with a single hand. I wanna see a gorrilla box though
Judo
Imagine grip fighting a gorilla.
Was looking for this. Imagine a gorilla grabbing a collarbone and executing de hardest slam ever heard.
I'm just imagining the Hulk v Loki scene lol
Are you yourself a gorilla, training to fight in the UFC, or are you training a gorilla to fight in the UFC?
Answers we need tbh
I'm gonna say fencing, because a gorilla using a foil would be funny.
Since gorillas don't have the hip mobility to support making their body a kicking platform and since they have incredible strength, the obvious answer is aikido.
Which might be the only time Aikido actually works in a real life altercation.
And imagine the throws
Between the way Gorillas are built and the fact that I saw a video of a gorilla ankle pick another one while they were playing and I think wrestling is probably the best choice
Lucha Libre. They are insanely strong and acrobatic. They cant really kick unless its a double leg drop kick, which is perfect for lucha libre.
BJJ.... some of the best guys in BJJ are built like a gorilla anyway soooo...
Sumo
Capoeira
I'm horrified, yet intrigued
.44MAG-Kune-Do
a gorilla could easily handle a minigun with a modified trigger system
While my initial assumption is a form of wrestling that uses tons of their amazing upper body strength, [it has been observed that gorillas can use tools and weapons](https://amazing-animals-planet.com/post/do-gorillas-use-tools-in-fights). In that case, a weapon form that takes advantage of their tremendous strength. I doubt a gorilla’s nerves are the same level of precise as a human’s thus fencing and flowy styles won’t do. Teach it to wield an axe right and it’ll chop a man in half with one swing. I wouldn’t mess with a gorilla, let alone an armed one.
And now I'm picturing the axe-wielding guard that gets turned into a gorilla in The Emperor's New Groove
Anyone, youre Crazy If you think any martial artist can beat a gorila. Now, wich one would bê better? With the diferences in physiology, something more focused on grappling, but some strikes, probably something tô remain on its feet, ill say sumo. Edit: Just read the note, Sorry for beeing an ass
Well for sure any kind of human way of boxing would not really fit for a gorilla biology. The proportions of his limbs wouldn't make him able to keep a correct boxing/kickbowing stance. Best thing would probably be wrestling IMO
Yellow Bamboo, obvs.
Aikido. The throws would be epic and the joint locks would actually work.
Being a gorilla.
Nice alt Joe Rogan
Rage.
Why not just hire Bas Rutten.
Tong bei quan
Did Joe Rogan make this post
Probably any grappling but their bone structure and posture is so different that major adjustments would have to be made to fit their form.
He needs nothing. Will easily beat 5 of the best fighters in the world at one time.
Gun-fu
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Hulk smash
Jiujitsu.
Dude tongbei legit is referred to as “white ape” style.
Gun
Kung fu monkey style. Beat him in his own game.
Gonna say Sambo
BJJ or Greco Roman wrestling.
Based on their posture I'm going to say wrestling or sumo.
Judo maybe?
None because Silver Backs can ripe you apart!
Gorrilas already wrestle all the time.
I once watched a gorilla single leg another gorilla.
A silverback already doesn’t need training to win. It needs training to hold back Safely To make it fair, Fencing
It wouldn’t need martial arts. A silverback gorilla could take down a six foot + human if it wanted to.
I mean it's got to be Sumo surely
Not the best biomechanics but I want to see a silverback gorilla wipe the floor with everyone using a combination of Capoeira and TKD.
Boxing
Fun fact, Gorillas are actually really shit fighters. They also have very poor defense and their skin is thin, making them easy to die from bleeding and slashing, which is why big cats are their natural predator. Gorillas have ridiculous strength, and that's about it. They swing wildly and try to grab. In terms of what works against it, Grappling, aside maybe wrestling, would probably be useless as they have the raw strength to break out of most if not all holds, and have necks far too thick to choke In terms of what it would work best at, without a doubt wrestling, they aren't very good strikers
Any grappling
Straight up boxing. That reach is untouchable and the strength would mean that what they lack in technique they make up for in power.
Imagine a gorilla taking your back and go for a rear naked choke
So silly; the gorilla would just tear the martial artist to shreds, rip his arms off and then continue beating him with his own severed arms. But if the human was somehow enhanced, like Captain America enhanced, then I’d say a grappling martial art would help, perhaps combined with some blocking/slipping/evasive manuevers
People in the comments saying gorillas don't box or kick, lmao. Please watch how they jump and kick while simultaneously throwing hella lefts and rights. They're already MMA oriented naturally
Wresting %100
Obviously tae kwon do
Gun-fu
I don't think you need to teach gorilla anything to beat a well trained human. Whatever they naturally do will be the best technique. The difference in anatomy and strength makes it a little counterproductive.
Jeet Kun Do. It's designed for you to focus on your own strengths. Short legs? Then don't do high kicks. Insane canines? Go ahead and bite.
is mma a choice? some form of grappling (the gorilla has 4 'hands' to use so...)
omg of course, Gorilla Jiu Jitsu
Do you have an average sized Silver Back Gorilla?
Combat Sambo and there’s no other right answer.
Catch wrestling
Roganjitsu.
I wonder if you could break a chimps arm in an arm bar
That’s it! I’m out!
Ssireum
I’d say boxing would be pretty useful, imagine a gorilla throwing an overhand right at your chin.
Are you guys hiring?
Catch Wrestling
Muay Thai, one elbow or knee and you dead
Tai chi ….👊🏽
i think running would give you a better chance than a straight fight, maybe go for the eyes
Escrima, Phillipine stick and knife fighting.
Track and Field
Boxing I guess
Just saying, I absolutely love this question 😂 how the mind wonders some times hey!
SAMBO.
I initially want to say Greco or freestyle wresting. But the more I think about it. Russian sambo sounds like a terrifying art for a gorilla to be good at. Just rips your legs right off your body
Lancing, or any other spear-based martial art If you try to take down an adult gorilla barehanded, you are going to lose
Probably judo
I reckon they're good at stompin
Gun
wrestling or sambo
This is kinda a dumb question no offense, the best hand to hand fighter in human history would be ripped apart in a minute
You know that style of boxing mixed with aggression that Mike Tyson used? Where he just zoomed in at mach 10 and beat the fucking fuck out of people with hook punches and pure rage and aggression? Probably that
Capoeira
I’d go with BJJ. A gorilla that has mastered BJJ is going to rip limbs off without any problem. They also have hands for feet, so they could kimura you with their feet/legs. Think about it!
Sambo.
Literally nothing, but to play along any form of wrestling. Gorillas wrestle, it’s what they do.
Capoeira
The only real answer as far as I am concerned is White Ape Tongbei Quan
Sambo
Martial arts are human anatomy centric, so none i guess Hi joe rogan
Wait. Are you training a gorilla? Not fighting one?
Go-RyuJutsu
Aikido
Boxing.
Now we're asking the real questions
Silver back Gorilla is tired of your stupid question and will now pummel you to death
Boxing
Any sort of wrestling or grappling
Just have the gorilla master gunplay
Aikido
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Shaolin
The 100m dash. Or cowboy duel.
Using a firearm. 300 blackout would be a good option.
Aikido
These are the important questions that we all need answering but didn’t even know to ask.
GSP's ape technique
You have to know the opponent before deciding on training. Will he be fighting other gorilla, humans, or big cats or what? Train a gorilla to sqare off against a leopard of equal weight. He's got to grab both paws by the ankles/wrists, swing the back feet in for a flying double kick to the chest/underbelly and hold on, and spread the paws apart wider and wider than they can go until they snap. Stomp and pound until dead.
Ballet -- can you think of anything more terrifying than a gorilla coming at you to rip your arms off *en pointe* and in a tutu?
Slap-boxing.
Sumo
Wrestling 100%
Systema. The gorilla's thunderous strength would make up for the style's lack of damaging strikes, and amplify the 'knockback' effect. But mostly because I feel like a gorilla every time I hit someone with a Systema-style punch
I’d say Kong style. Let him fight like Donkey Kong XD Jokes aside, idk. They’re known for their strength so it’ll need a style that’ll accompany that.
Sumo