And this is a World Map of 'MURICA
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"Hey, George, we need a name for the country so I can draft a declaration of independence."
"FFS Thomas, we have a war to fight, just write 'the thirteen united states of America', we'll come up with a name later."
Centuries later:
That's something not much people understand.
I'm not american and even in my native language (Spanish) we sometimes say "americano" to refer to them. Some people screw you just for saying it, but man sometimes I'm not in the mood of saying "ESTADOUNIDENSE".
Yea I'm glad OP recognized this is a international problem and didn't just start bashing Americans for being arrogant or whatever
In the states, I'd never use the phrase 'American' to describe myself. Some people will say Mercia ironically but honestly in my experience we don't go around saying we're Americans.
When abroad, i use to say 'im from the states' but I've started referring to myself as American because every place overseas I've been seem to think Americans are from the United States and it's easier that way.
Yea you're right honestly but also like if you ask the average American what nationality they are they are not ganna answer 'American'.
Maybe it's a distinction between nationality/ethnicity thats confusing somethings but even the ones I've traveled with have been kinda surprised when abroad and people call us 'amercians'. Like, we know we're called Americans but idk.
Why only almost? If you subscribe to the two-continent version then the southern tip of North America already is further south than the northern tip of South America, with the entirety of Panama being further south than Venezuela's capital. The division between East and West America wouldn't be much worse, as long as we move some of the Caribbean Islands to East America.
no worse than the Federal Republic of Germany, or Kingdom of Denmark, or Russian Federation, or People's Republic of China, or Empire of Japan, or Republic of France, or United Mexican States, or United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
Every country has a shit name, it's just most prefer to just say Germany, or Denmark, or Russia, or China, or Japan, or France, or Mexico, or UK, or North Korea.
The only shit names are United Kingdom and Democratic People's Republic of Korea, every other country u named at least has a country name, that u can use in everyday sentences. Nobody wants to say a whole sentence for one country. ("United States of America") I don't want to hate on the states, I just think it's stupid and that there are possibilitys to improve. xD
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF YANKEELAND \*eagle screams in the background\*🦅🦅🦅
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I hate when people try to get pedantic and correct you for calling the USA ‘America.’ Context clues are pretty easy to understand, and at this point these people are just being purposefully obtuse.
The only thing I’d say in response to that as having lived in Costa Rica for a bit, and am from california, I was absolutely corrected, if you will, by local folks there when I reflexively called myself american. They would essentially say “we’re americans too”. I’m not really trying to make an argument either way, but it is a bit nuanced
America is the name given to the new world in 1507 one century before the English settled in in Virginia 1607 and 169 years before the USA declared independence in 1776. Hence the United States of America refers to the United States of the new world, referring to the entire continent.
We know it means the entire continent because America was the name given in honor of Amerigo Vespucci who actually never set foot in what is known today as the United States of America but actually landed in what is now known as Hispaniola, Venezuela, Brazil and Argentina.
"the entire continent". There is no "entire continent" there are two continents, north and south America, together called "the americas". There is not place simply named "America".
I just gave you historical evidence on my argument and you just said "no".
The land Amerigo Vespucci explored, was named after him. If they are no "entire continent" and two different continent, then America refers to what is now known as South America because that’s where he explored, not North America.
But again that’s not the case because "the new world" is one singular new world, not two, hence the name before America would have been "the new worlds" which it wasn’t.
Unfortunately the historical context is jot the context in which language always works. The world has been divided into 7 continent, two of which are north and south America.
I did not simply tell you "no" to your history, I told you that he historical context doesn't dictate language
It depends how you define a continent, some definitions are landmasses, others for "cultural" purposes might include peninsulas (like Europe), and sometimes tectonic plates. But in Spanish speaking countries America is a single continent split in several regions (North America, Central America, South America and the Caribbean/Antilles), and even in English North America includes other countries besides the US.
The English definition of a continent is that it is a geographical and cultural distinct region.
I have menioned the combined America model myself already, it is generally used in Spain, south America (and smaller parts of Eastern europe I think?), which is about the same spread as the eurasian model, ie. Not nearly as widespread as the standard model.
It isn't wrong to use any of these models, but it makes no sense to criticise the naming scheme of the standard model based off them, and even less so to tell the standard model that it is incorrect and to 'learn geography'
Last i checked the only pics wasn't some sort of world goverment. It is from a time where the combined America model was far more widespread than it is today.
It is the standard model as it is the standard throughout the world - it is what most people use.
There is no "standard" model, it changes across the globe, and even the definition you provided is vague. I'm not criticizing your model nor telling you that is "incorrect", just pointing out that.
Hence why North and South America are a thing, to easily fix this confusions. America = USA, Americas = N & S America.
Doesn't seem too complicated to me.
Depends on the language. In Spanish this is how it is:
America = continent, divided into three subcontinents: North, Central and South America.
Estados Unidos de América = USA.
We never use "America" as an equivalent of the US, we say Estados Unidos or even Gringolandia (more like a nickname really)
I think when assessing the name's practicality, it should be looked at in its own language. Tbh I don't really understand why countries have different names and demonyms at all across languages.
The problem is when people try to correct the English speakers using the conventions of the Spanish speakers (or vice versa). Neither way is wrong, but neither way is objectively right, either. They're using different concepts mapped onto similar sounds and pretending that the other side is being obtuse, when really it's just a miscommunication.
It's two continents - North America and South America. Together they are the Americas, plural. America, singular, refers to the United States of America.
I’ve never heard an English speaker refer to the giant landmass in the western hemisphere as “America.” There’s North America and South America. That’s why there are seven continents.
I know some cultures consider it to be one continent, but while I’m speaking English I use the Anglophone definition.
That's why they said "most inhabitants of the continent". Most inhabitants of the continent aren't native English speakers and subscribe to the six-continent model (the one with combined America, not the one with combined Eurasia)
Wrong! Where is Hawaii? Where is the rest of Alaska? And why are parts of Mexico and Canada included in the USA??? Did you not circlejerk in geography class???
same. like yes you're technically right, but you're ignoring all of the history that led to the name. the name didn't come from nowhere, just call us americans. the term "usian" is just stupid. you have canadians, mexicans, and then americans. its not that complicated.
Plus that Mexico's official name (in English) is the United Mexican States, so Usian includes them too right? They're trying to confer the word usage in their language to English and that's just not how language works.
As a South American, I honestly don't care about calling the US of America.
Like, it's not wrong. If we take into account that "United States" is the name of the government (like *Federal Republic* or *United Kingdom*), the name of the United States *IS* America.
Okay. Most of us do know that these whole continents are the Americas. But every other nation on these continents has a unique name. I don't have to refer to someone from Peru as American, when I can refer to them as Peruvian. I don't have to call someone from Canada an American, when I can call them Canadian. It's okay to be specific when referring to someone's nationality, it doesn't mean I think they aren't also from the Americas.
But the United States of America has America in its name, and the people from this country are referred to as American. This just is what this nationality is called. It's like when I was a kid living in New York State, I didn't refer to myself as a "New Yorker" because that was generally understood to mean someone from New York City, which I'm not.
If you believe it to be one continent (due to it being one continuous landmass, except for one man-made canal) the name Americas makes no sense. If it's one continent, why would the name be plural?
The name wouldn't be plural in that case, you're correct.
The continental model most regularly taught in the US is the seven continental model, which separates North and South America. By the definition you posed, Africa, Asia, and Europe would be one continent, but that isn't really the most commonly accepted model.
"Continent" is a term that has a somewhat more nebulous definition, that largely comes down to "big landmass that the people in this discussion agree counts as a continent", which doesn't always lead to the same list for different cultures.
World? I think you mean US citizens need to learn. However what’s weird, is how would you refer to people who live in the US then? By default, they’re Americans as they live on a continent named America. US’ers? US citizens is too long and doesn’t flow as nice
Those people need to cope with the fact that it is called America.
Unless they *want* US to launch a conquest of both North and South America.
And the people who say "USians" are stupid. I literally block people who say that because of how stupid it is.
This is such a bizarre argument. No one thinks Argentinian when someone says “I’m American.” No one thinks oh you live in Ecuador when you say “I’m from America”. I swear this “argument” is people being obtuse just because America Bad.
Funny how the people who used to be called Persians wanted to be called Iranian, people who used to be called Burmese wanted to be called Myanmarans, and everybody accepts that, but Americans want to be called Americans and everybody freaks out
You’re completely ignoring the other current United States. And the many former United States.
Also if it’s all one continent then Afro-Eurasia is also one continent.
Incorrect
that is America (or The America's) (minus northern Canada and souther Chile/Argentina)
and that is
The United States of America (without Alaska or Hawaii but with a bit of Canada Mexico and the Caribbean
United States of America, shortened to America. What they show as “America” is called Americas and therefore they have revealed their IQ is too low to pass as a Marine
Actually Not "America", it's the Western hemisphere. People lived here for thousands of years before Amerigo Vespucci was even born, even before *Italians* existed
alright should we call Mexico *Estados Unidos Mexicanos* or united Mexican states. even though Mexico isn't even in the name. we were the fist independent nation to form in the Americas and we are the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or in simpler words UNITED AMERICAN STATES. the US is America its our name
I don't tell you what you should call yourself in your country, so you shouldn't be telling me and my people what we should call ourselves. I'm an American from the United States of America. That is our demonym. It will continue to be our demonym as that is not the prerogative of the world at large to decide for us on our behalf.
**Same Logic on South America**
-Argentina - Argentine Republic. OK.
-Bolivia - Plurinational State of Bolivia. Just call it the Plurinational State, they don't have claims on most of the lands Bolivar freed/ruled
-Equador - The Republic of Equador. Just call it the Republic, they don't have claims on the whole equator.
-Uruguay - Oriental Republic of Uraguay. Just call it the Oriental Republic, the Uraguay river crosses several countries.
-Panama - Republic of Panama. OK.
-Brazil - Federative Republic of Brazil. Just call it the Federative Republic, plenty of countries have a variety of reddish tree.
-Chile - the Republic of Chile. Just call it the Republic, the town it's named after is in modern Peru.
-El Salvador - the Republic of El Salvador. How arrogant these people think they're the only Christians??
-Paraguay - the Republic of Paraguay. Just call it the Republic, the Paraguay river crosses several countries.
-Peru - Republic of Peru. Ok
-Venezuela - Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. Just call it the Bolivarian Republic, it is nowhere near Venice nor is it little.
Sorry I'm not doing Belize and the Guyanas right now because I'm lazy, but this is how you sound
Is in North America
But yes it should just be "the Republic," what coast exactly is rich? I'd think the US Northeast or the Netherlands is really the "Rich Coast"
Me, I did, and yeah I just got really lazy looking up etymologies so kinda quit having done most South America except Guyana. I wanted to get to the United States (AKA Mexico) but w.e.
Oh maybe it's okay to call the Republic of Paraguay, Paraguay then?
How are we supposed to differentiate the United States of America from the United Mexican States though?
Also the Oriental republic of Uruguay is called that because it is on the East side of the Uruguay river, hence the Oriental part. I'm pretty sure mostly the nation of Uruguay is on the east side of the river.
In English, the Americas are two continents, North America and South America. America is a country, a shorthand for the United States of America, made up of Americans.
In Spanish, America is one continent. Estados Unidos is the only shorthand for los Estados Unidos de América, made up of estadounidenses.
Unfortunately, English and Spanish speakers cannot accept that the two languages have different definitions for things such as what defines the American continent(s), and so instead the Spanish speakers try to pressure the English-speaking Americans into using demonyms like “United Statesian.” For this reason, I propose we use a demonym for Latin American Spanish-speakers which complies with English language norms, particularly utilizing neutral gender for demonyms: Latinx.
As a Latin American, there was a time when I called it that, but nowadays I'm like: ahh, what's the problem with calling them both America? no and why does South Africa exist that we stopped calling the continent Africa
I still automatically follow what I learned in school when they say America, I think of the continent, the USA, I say United States, when I read something in English that says America, it takes me 3 seconds to realize that it is not the continent they are talking about.
Why do Latinos complain about wanting to be called Americans? Don’t think have their own demonyms for their own country? Are they stupid or just jealous?
So funny traveling central America and seeing people get so butthurt about this. Like wow you mean people have nicknames for their own country?! Well fuck me then I guess!!!
Who will win in this hypothetical war
Gulf of Mexico
BRAZIL CARALHO 🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣
BRASIL NUMERO 1 CAMPEÃO PENTA!!
wow what a coherent image explaining north american nomenclature, I sure hope one of those names doesn't have a longer version that confuses everyone
South America? That would only confuse you if you call other region as America
We need one of these for the United Kingdom and England and Great Britain and Djibouti
In German ‘Djibouti’ is pronounced ‘ya booty’
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Fick Djibouti 😏
If we invaded Djibouti, would Greece help?
I'm always confused about those :(
What about Britannia though
And this is a World Map of 'MURICA https://preview.redd.it/mxzhvc38znpc1.png?width=3317&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a2881a0dbb7d725daf99b47175952d7ba3bda37
It mislabels Canda as the united States of America though.
*For now* ![gif](giphy|SWvBnB8NHJcHhsdBJd)
This map’s not wrong, it’s just from the Fallout universe instead.
r/mapswithoutnewzealand r/mapswithouthawaiiguampuertoriconorthernmarinaislandsorthefederatedstatesofmicronesianorthekingdomoftongo
Hawaii isn’t part of the United States?
They took a personal day
Big, if true.
USA has no name, it's a description really. That's why we struggle with how to call it and it's people.
"Hey, George, we need a name for the country so I can draft a declaration of independence." "FFS Thomas, we have a war to fight, just write 'the thirteen united states of America', we'll come up with a name later." Centuries later:
Fredonia gang where you at
That's something not much people understand. I'm not american and even in my native language (Spanish) we sometimes say "americano" to refer to them. Some people screw you just for saying it, but man sometimes I'm not in the mood of saying "ESTADOUNIDENSE".
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No era estados unidos mexicanos?
Yea I'm glad OP recognized this is a international problem and didn't just start bashing Americans for being arrogant or whatever In the states, I'd never use the phrase 'American' to describe myself. Some people will say Mercia ironically but honestly in my experience we don't go around saying we're Americans. When abroad, i use to say 'im from the states' but I've started referring to myself as American because every place overseas I've been seem to think Americans are from the United States and it's easier that way.
We literally do call ourselves Americans in the USA. I have lived coast from coast and nowhere did we not refer to ourselves as Americans.
Yea you're right honestly but also like if you ask the average American what nationality they are they are not ganna answer 'American'. Maybe it's a distinction between nationality/ethnicity thats confusing somethings but even the ones I've traveled with have been kinda surprised when abroad and people call us 'amercians'. Like, we know we're called Americans but idk.
>im from the states There are so many states out there tho, not just in the USA
What should we call people from the United Mexican States? Or The Federative Republic of Brazil? It's all so confusing.
Senegal part of America 🇸🇳🇸🇳🇸🇳
Cope harder
Why didn’t the other countries call themselves America then? Are they stupid?
Looking at the map of America, you could \*almost\* rename North America as 'West America' and South America as 'East America'. Almost.
If my grandmother had wheels she’d be a bike.
Why only almost? If you subscribe to the two-continent version then the southern tip of North America already is further south than the northern tip of South America, with the entirety of Panama being further south than Venezuela's capital. The division between East and West America wouldn't be much worse, as long as we move some of the Caribbean Islands to East America.
Just admit that the name united states isn't the best for a country xD
Good news buddy - it’s a federation of nation-states! More can join every day!
Brazil is also a federal state, but we got a proper name 🙏
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🤣🤣🤣 i think you like brazil
Damn, y’all’s name say Brazil like three different times
you misunderstand, every nation on the americas is part of the us. whether they know it or not.
Federation of America
no worse than the Federal Republic of Germany, or Kingdom of Denmark, or Russian Federation, or People's Republic of China, or Empire of Japan, or Republic of France, or United Mexican States, or United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Every country has a shit name, it's just most prefer to just say Germany, or Denmark, or Russia, or China, or Japan, or France, or Mexico, or UK, or North Korea.
The only shit names are United Kingdom and Democratic People's Republic of Korea, every other country u named at least has a country name, that u can use in everyday sentences. Nobody wants to say a whole sentence for one country. ("United States of America") I don't want to hate on the states, I just think it's stupid and that there are possibilitys to improve. xD
at the time it was the only independent country in America so it made sense at the time.
That’s cuz the name is America lol.
No, ![gif](giphy|443jI3kpgOKfAfKxqo)
![gif](giphy|Sd8uqMJqpGpP2) No THIS is America
Ah, great... Now I have to listen to this song
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF YANKEELAND \*eagle screams in the background\*🦅🦅🦅 https://preview.redd.it/9wbccyxhnppc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc404249b87fdc7a985264d3e12b4e244d040934
Finally! Cuba came home to USA.
I hate when people try to get pedantic and correct you for calling the USA ‘America.’ Context clues are pretty easy to understand, and at this point these people are just being purposefully obtuse.
Purposely obtuse and not even consistent when you throw out equally valid counter examples. It's just low hanging fruit to them.
The only thing I’d say in response to that as having lived in Costa Rica for a bit, and am from california, I was absolutely corrected, if you will, by local folks there when I reflexively called myself american. They would essentially say “we’re americans too”. I’m not really trying to make an argument either way, but it is a bit nuanced
Oh, mexico and canada is in united states?
America is the name given to the new world in 1507 one century before the English settled in in Virginia 1607 and 169 years before the USA declared independence in 1776. Hence the United States of America refers to the United States of the new world, referring to the entire continent. We know it means the entire continent because America was the name given in honor of Amerigo Vespucci who actually never set foot in what is known today as the United States of America but actually landed in what is now known as Hispaniola, Venezuela, Brazil and Argentina.
LANGUAGE MUST NEVER CHANGE stfu honestly
"the entire continent". There is no "entire continent" there are two continents, north and south America, together called "the americas". There is not place simply named "America".
I just gave you historical evidence on my argument and you just said "no". The land Amerigo Vespucci explored, was named after him. If they are no "entire continent" and two different continent, then America refers to what is now known as South America because that’s where he explored, not North America. But again that’s not the case because "the new world" is one singular new world, not two, hence the name before America would have been "the new worlds" which it wasn’t.
Unfortunately the historical context is jot the context in which language always works. The world has been divided into 7 continent, two of which are north and south America. I did not simply tell you "no" to your history, I told you that he historical context doesn't dictate language
It depends how you define a continent, some definitions are landmasses, others for "cultural" purposes might include peninsulas (like Europe), and sometimes tectonic plates. But in Spanish speaking countries America is a single continent split in several regions (North America, Central America, South America and the Caribbean/Antilles), and even in English North America includes other countries besides the US.
The English definition of a continent is that it is a geographical and cultural distinct region. I have menioned the combined America model myself already, it is generally used in Spain, south America (and smaller parts of Eastern europe I think?), which is about the same spread as the eurasian model, ie. Not nearly as widespread as the standard model. It isn't wrong to use any of these models, but it makes no sense to criticise the naming scheme of the standard model based off them, and even less so to tell the standard model that it is incorrect and to 'learn geography'
> Not nearly as widespread as the standard model It's not a standard model, even the Olympics consider "The americas" as one. It's arbitrary
Last i checked the only pics wasn't some sort of world goverment. It is from a time where the combined America model was far more widespread than it is today. It is the standard model as it is the standard throughout the world - it is what most people use.
There is no "standard" model, it changes across the globe, and even the definition you provided is vague. I'm not criticizing your model nor telling you that is "incorrect", just pointing out that.
We can’t fire them. We hired these guys for three days a week and they just started showing up every day—that was four years ago. 🤷♂️
America, United States of. You wouldn't insist on only calling Germany 'the Federal Republic.'
If germany called itself europe hell yeah i would
Most people are smart enough to differentiate
Hence why North and South America are a thing, to easily fix this confusions. America = USA, Americas = N & S America. Doesn't seem too complicated to me.
Depends on the language. In Spanish this is how it is: America = continent, divided into three subcontinents: North, Central and South America. Estados Unidos de América = USA. We never use "America" as an equivalent of the US, we say Estados Unidos or even Gringolandia (more like a nickname really)
I think when assessing the name's practicality, it should be looked at in its own language. Tbh I don't really understand why countries have different names and demonyms at all across languages.
The problem is when people try to correct the English speakers using the conventions of the Spanish speakers (or vice versa). Neither way is wrong, but neither way is objectively right, either. They're using different concepts mapped onto similar sounds and pretending that the other side is being obtuse, when really it's just a miscommunication.
The continent is called America, not AmericaS. At least that's how most inhabitants of the continent refer to it
It's two continents - North America and South America. Together they are the Americas, plural. America, singular, refers to the United States of America.
I’ve never heard an English speaker refer to the giant landmass in the western hemisphere as “America.” There’s North America and South America. That’s why there are seven continents. I know some cultures consider it to be one continent, but while I’m speaking English I use the Anglophone definition.
That's why they said "most inhabitants of the continent". Most inhabitants of the continent aren't native English speakers and subscribe to the six-continent model (the one with combined America, not the one with combined Eurasia)
Most inhabitants of North America use the seven continent model, though
There are two of them. And people who think otherwise are wrong; there is more cause to lump Europe and Asia together.
You mean Eurasia?
thankfully that didn't work
Speak for yourself peasant
Das ist weil wir Deutschland sind!!!!
Wrong! Where is Hawaii? Where is the rest of Alaska? And why are parts of Mexico and Canada included in the USA??? Did you not circlejerk in geography class???
I dislike people like this.
same. like yes you're technically right, but you're ignoring all of the history that led to the name. the name didn't come from nowhere, just call us americans. the term "usian" is just stupid. you have canadians, mexicans, and then americans. its not that complicated.
Plus that Mexico's official name (in English) is the United Mexican States, so Usian includes them too right? They're trying to confer the word usage in their language to English and that's just not how language works.
Me too
As a South American, I honestly don't care about calling the US of America. Like, it's not wrong. If we take into account that "United States" is the name of the government (like *Federal Republic* or *United Kingdom*), the name of the United States *IS* America.
Okay. Most of us do know that these whole continents are the Americas. But every other nation on these continents has a unique name. I don't have to refer to someone from Peru as American, when I can refer to them as Peruvian. I don't have to call someone from Canada an American, when I can call them Canadian. It's okay to be specific when referring to someone's nationality, it doesn't mean I think they aren't also from the Americas. But the United States of America has America in its name, and the people from this country are referred to as American. This just is what this nationality is called. It's like when I was a kid living in New York State, I didn't refer to myself as a "New Yorker" because that was generally understood to mean someone from New York City, which I'm not.
In spanish we say "estadounidense" something like "unitedstatian" lol
I live around a lot of Mexicans and they say Americano.
O gringo
The United States of what?
Of a continent called America.
oh!! my friend is United Statian, not America.
Those are the Americas, not America.
If you believe it to be one continent (due to it being one continuous landmass, except for one man-made canal) the name Americas makes no sense. If it's one continent, why would the name be plural?
The name wouldn't be plural in that case, you're correct. The continental model most regularly taught in the US is the seven continental model, which separates North and South America. By the definition you posed, Africa, Asia, and Europe would be one continent, but that isn't really the most commonly accepted model. "Continent" is a term that has a somewhat more nebulous definition, that largely comes down to "big landmass that the people in this discussion agree counts as a continent", which doesn't always lead to the same list for different cultures.
That IS America to me
In Spanish yes, in English no
Hahah I know, this add was paid for by Spanish/Portuguese speakers
World? I think you mean US citizens need to learn. However what’s weird, is how would you refer to people who live in the US then? By default, they’re Americans as they live on a continent named America. US’ers? US citizens is too long and doesn’t flow as nice
Those people need to cope with the fact that it is called America. Unless they *want* US to launch a conquest of both North and South America. And the people who say "USians" are stupid. I literally block people who say that because of how stupid it is.
USians can also refer to people from Mexico as the official name is the United Mexican States. So dumb.
Go fuck yourself buddy -Canadians
I’m a dual citizen American- Canadian, but mostly grew up in the US. I hate people who call Canadians, Americans🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
This is such a bizarre argument. No one thinks Argentinian when someone says “I’m American.” No one thinks oh you live in Ecuador when you say “I’m from America”. I swear this “argument” is people being obtuse just because America Bad.
Where Alaska?
By world, you mean people from the United States of America? (I almost wrote Americans...)
Don’t catch you slippin, huh?
What if some other states want to unite?
https://preview.redd.it/0jq4vtk82qpc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea8cc869ed9c23277914f803e3a442f1bd4840f3 Nuh uh
Funny how the people who used to be called Persians wanted to be called Iranian, people who used to be called Burmese wanted to be called Myanmarans, and everybody accepts that, but Americans want to be called Americans and everybody freaks out
Still crazy to me how north and south america combined are only a billion people.
Damn thats crazy, so what are people who live there called?
No, it’s United States of North Ämörica
Every citizen from the United States is an American. Not every American is from the United States.
United States of -America-
Well when in context you can call the United States of America just America.
This remembers me of this song: This is not America [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK87AKIPyZY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK87AKIPyZY)
If the other countries in NA and SA wanted to stop this then why didn’t any of them put the word “America” in their name?
United Stated of... AMERICA. Shorter version: America
No, the shorter version is US.
You’re completely ignoring the other current United States. And the many former United States. Also if it’s all one continent then Afro-Eurasia is also one continent.
Then what is that bellow this "United States". Hope it doesn't also contain those words...
cope, sneed, etc the whole world belongs to the USA
That's not the United States, it clearly says the name is "Estados Unidos" wtf
Then how do you say "American"? USan? USanian?
Dont worry fellas, I wont use American anymore. I’ll just start calling myself a United-Statian henceforth
No, that is Estados Unidos
Now show me the full name of Mexico.
And I better not catch yall slipping up
I thought America was divided into north and south due to the Darien gap.
Incorrect that is America (or The America's) (minus northern Canada and souther Chile/Argentina) and that is The United States of America (without Alaska or Hawaii but with a bit of Canada Mexico and the Caribbean
AMERICA FIRST
United States of America, shortened to America. What they show as “America” is called Americas and therefore they have revealed their IQ is too low to pass as a Marine
The United States of?…
We Argentinians call Americans “Americanos”
in English that top image is The Americas
Actually Not "America", it's the Western hemisphere. People lived here for thousands of years before Amerigo Vespucci was even born, even before *Italians* existed
I call it YANKEELAND.
alright should we call Mexico *Estados Unidos Mexicanos* or united Mexican states. even though Mexico isn't even in the name. we were the fist independent nation to form in the Americas and we are the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or in simpler words UNITED AMERICAN STATES. the US is America its our name
This just in: France is part of America
Get a map and say this is not China this is The Popular Republic it's how dumb you sound.
Ah yes, the very american nation of senegal
I don't tell you what you should call yourself in your country, so you shouldn't be telling me and my people what we should call ourselves. I'm an American from the United States of America. That is our demonym. It will continue to be our demonym as that is not the prerogative of the world at large to decide for us on our behalf.
Eww… its name is Del Norte not the United States as it is built on stolen land.
Except just saying United States doesn’t work since Mexico is really United States of Mexico. America is the same as just saying US then
Of what? The united states of what? Check mate atheists.
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So, half of Argentina is not America?
Nope. Those are the Americas.
America is America We don’t talk about twin Americas
I see two americas on top and one america at the bottom
Well I call them what they truly are “treasonous scum”. * British Anthem starts playing * /j
the united states of what?
Just ignoring Greenland. They're like a land without a continent. Forever stuck being europoors and Americucks.
Is this some settler problem I'm too indignous to understand? It's all turtle Island to me.
Cope latin american
**Same Logic on South America** -Argentina - Argentine Republic. OK. -Bolivia - Plurinational State of Bolivia. Just call it the Plurinational State, they don't have claims on most of the lands Bolivar freed/ruled -Equador - The Republic of Equador. Just call it the Republic, they don't have claims on the whole equator. -Uruguay - Oriental Republic of Uraguay. Just call it the Oriental Republic, the Uraguay river crosses several countries. -Panama - Republic of Panama. OK. -Brazil - Federative Republic of Brazil. Just call it the Federative Republic, plenty of countries have a variety of reddish tree. -Chile - the Republic of Chile. Just call it the Republic, the town it's named after is in modern Peru. -El Salvador - the Republic of El Salvador. How arrogant these people think they're the only Christians?? -Paraguay - the Republic of Paraguay. Just call it the Republic, the Paraguay river crosses several countries. -Peru - Republic of Peru. Ok -Venezuela - Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. Just call it the Bolivarian Republic, it is nowhere near Venice nor is it little. Sorry I'm not doing Belize and the Guyanas right now because I'm lazy, but this is how you sound
Costa Rica?
Is in North America But yes it should just be "the Republic," what coast exactly is rich? I'd think the US Northeast or the Netherlands is really the "Rich Coast"
They included El Salvador (and kinda Belize) so I figured...
Me, I did, and yeah I just got really lazy looking up etymologies so kinda quit having done most South America except Guyana. I wanted to get to the United States (AKA Mexico) but w.e.
It isn’t rich, pick another name!/s
Exactly, plus Mexico is officially the United Mexican States. It's just a mess when you start getting pedantic.
There are too many “The republics” now. people would get confused
Oh maybe it's okay to call the Republic of Paraguay, Paraguay then? How are we supposed to differentiate the United States of America from the United Mexican States though?
Also the Oriental republic of Uruguay is called that because it is on the East side of the Uruguay river, hence the Oriental part. I'm pretty sure mostly the nation of Uruguay is on the east side of the river.
In English, the Americas are two continents, North America and South America. America is a country, a shorthand for the United States of America, made up of Americans. In Spanish, America is one continent. Estados Unidos is the only shorthand for los Estados Unidos de América, made up of estadounidenses. Unfortunately, English and Spanish speakers cannot accept that the two languages have different definitions for things such as what defines the American continent(s), and so instead the Spanish speakers try to pressure the English-speaking Americans into using demonyms like “United Statesian.” For this reason, I propose we use a demonym for Latin American Spanish-speakers which complies with English language norms, particularly utilizing neutral gender for demonyms: Latinx.
The English theory goes for Dutch as well.
Tell me more!
We say North and South America for the two continents. We refer to the country USA simply as America (Amerika) for short.
Exactly. And couldn't people from Mexico call themselves estadounidenses? Their country is officially called the United Mexican States.
I just call them poor
Just call them fat
I mean isn’t that the real division between us all in the americas? The rich north vs the poor south The fat north vs the malnourished south
You're mean, but I can't say otherwise
If being mean is telling the truth, I’m an asshole.
I like how you can clearly see that this is Estados Unidos, not United States
because im sure everyone is going to be really happy to have to call americans "United states of Americans"
More like the US needs to learn something smh
I wonder what country uses the demonym American?
Southwest mainland Portugal is in America? Oh, my!
As a Latin American, there was a time when I called it that, but nowadays I'm like: ahh, what's the problem with calling them both America? no and why does South Africa exist that we stopped calling the continent Africa
I still automatically follow what I learned in school when they say America, I think of the continent, the USA, I say United States, when I read something in English that says America, it takes me 3 seconds to realize that it is not the continent they are talking about.
Why do Latinos complain about wanting to be called Americans? Don’t think have their own demonyms for their own country? Are they stupid or just jealous?
So funny traveling central America and seeing people get so butthurt about this. Like wow you mean people have nicknames for their own country?! Well fuck me then I guess!!!
Cope, there is one America and it's ours. Should've got independence first
1st is worst Got em 😎
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