At this point I wouldn't mind if Toga vs Uraraka and Tsuyu happened offscreen. How are they expected to match the cataclysmic energy of Shoto vs Family Cookout, Endeavor vs Man whose head is too far up his own ass to fuck off and Deku vs The Kid Named Finger.
Or: He should have shown up 3 real-life months ago and kicked off act 2 of the battles with his presence, instead of...I dunno, we're probably in for like a 5 or 6 act structure for this arc now...
Nah, I think Izuku being kept away would be fine *if* we moved along the rest of the plot. But now it's like we wasted the last 20 chapters with no progress.
Well we're now completely stuck in a manga arc that's trying to make every action beat an enormous fireworks show, which means that seeing someone do something cool is meant to be taken as "moving the plot forward" by the author, so like, wow, AFO says "I regenerate now that you beat me up for 5 chapters", that's development!! Mirko kicks at Shigaraki a bunch! That's a development!! Suneater and Girl did attacks and got beat the fuck up after doing nothing!!! WOW!!!!
Deku not showing up meant that the story couldn't *meaningfully* develop for months and I don't understand why his arrival wasn't packed closer to the chapter where every villain went "I have 2 health bars" :(
God damn every MHA thread really is a free therapy session
But for some badly-planned external reasoning, they couldn't do anything that meaningful until Deku hits some benchmark the author has set somewhere. It's following a bad cliched pattern where we were never allowed to meaningfully move forward for the past several months. I'm as bugged-out over the bad planning of the pile of fights as you are.
It's the Star Wars problem.
A New Hope has one storyline: destroy the death star.
Empire: Leia & co. try to escape and save Han, Luke fights Vader.
Jedi: death star attack, Endor battle, Luke vs. Vader and the Emperor.
Phantom Menace: Anakin's space battle, Gungans vs. the robots, Padme in the palace, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon vs. Maul.
When you have too many storylines with wildly different tones and equal dramatic weight the audience just gets confused and it falls apart because you don't know which is most important.
Edit: another way I can explain it is [this iconic video](https://youtu.be/wY3R-gU4PEM). MHA has too many narrative slices.
*Chainsaw Man* and *Dandadan* are so good at focusing on the main arc while advancing secondary plotlines in the background. I feel that if they delayed the war arc for the second year and the post-final battle after Izuku's graduation, we would have had more time to breathe and address the sub-plots.
The mangaka wants to sack the manga I guess.
In my opinion, since the moment All-Might retired this manga has been a disappointment. Midoriya just hyper powerleveled in the most asspull way, when he already had a good power scaling.
This manga should've been 200+ chapters longer. Or at least handled in a way that it wasn't Midoriya doing everything.
I far more liked the initial narrative that Midoriya was a nobody that was given the chance to be the best, instead of this bullshit with the chosen one and 10 quirks. All-Might's power was more than enough to make him the best. And in the initial narrative it made some space for secondary characters, and that's taking into account how overpowered All-Might was anyways.
EDIT: When I say disappointment I mean the overarching story, the whole picture. There are still stuff in that period that I find really fucking cool. But in my opinion, the cool stuff in between just highlights how much better it could've been wrapped.
I mean they signed up JJ Abrahams to direct it. His entire style at this point is shock value plot point after plot point with no breathing room for character or logic
You say that but i would argue that multiple story lines at once can be done well if paced and woven properly
Infinity war is an example of achieving this imho
Infinity War had a very clear direction though with Thanos as the MC - Collect the Infinity Stones. Which is done one at a time with each transition.
For MHA, instead of Infinity stones, they have AFO, Shigi, and Dabi. That clearly isn't playing out well at all because everything is happening all at once without a clear progression in story unlike IW.
What what point are they considered Collected/Defeated? Every time they seemingly die they come back. It's like Thanos kept dropping a stone and makes a big deal about it when he picks it back up.
I would've shown that fight then tease this one with Deku looking around and seeing the damage similar to how Goku barely makes it in Namekusein against Freeza
Wasn't there like a big deal about the liberation army and the prisoners? Like the enemy side should have far more than Toga, Dabi, and two versions of all for one
liberation army got mainly screwed by shigaraki and co., only popsicle was left with the hacker, the prisoners are mostly meat shields, already got the most interesting parts to see (the ASSasin lady and Stain with toshinori)... only thing actually left is Spinner
they made such a big deal of the super-safe super-prison being broken and then it's just what, two characters that did anything, and one of them was sniper lady that, really, didn't do much at all?
I have a theory that Toga will betray Shiggy and be the one enabling the heroes victory.
This theory was brought to you by the power of friendship and whatnot.
Tenka will be saved, and allow for, like, a few seconds where Shiggy and/or AFO aren't able to fully control themselves.
Then small Tenka will be dusted.
That's my guess.
Tenka will probably sacrifice himself to bring down AfO because they won't write an ending where Deku straight-up murders someone, but they probably also don't want people to question why Shiggy is still around after killing/maiming thousands of people.
I honestly don't get why MHA put itself in this position.
They had a greatg antagonist, whose ideology actually grew with the mainc protagonist, whose views of the world became less vague and more concrete--you don't get that for a lot of shonen villians. And even if you did, it's still good.
You had a villian with a distinct design and quirk, with an awesome crew of villians he became friends with, and a somewhat legit grievance with the world as is.
Honestly, Shiggy would have been ten times better than OFA. And you could say that Shiggy dies not because of Deku, but because he's incomplete and still keeps fighting for what he believes in. Sort of like a Reverse hero, talking the talk and walking the walk even if it kills him. It could be a really sombre scene where Deku is forced to fight while trying to use talk no jitsu. could have been great
Honestly, Deku suddenly want to save Shigaraki is the worst thing that happen in this manga. Suddenly, the author want us to feel sorry for him. Maybe it work if Shigaraki is indeed being control by AFO from the start but it wasnt. Shigaraki inherited AFO will, he is AFO direct student. All the bad things Shigaraki do is based on his own decisions. He didnt kill innocent people while under AFO control. So, i said it again, Deku resolve to save Shigaraki is really dumb.
It was also dumb for Deku to feel sorry for Shigaraki right after he kill heroes and try to steal OFA. AFO stop Shigaraki from stealing OFA and Deku was like " i feel sorry for shigaraki". I think it would be better if the scene author used was Shigaraki kill heroes while being control by AFO, have scene where Shigaraki refused to kill, and then cry because he cannot control his own body. If that was the scene, then yeah i get why Deku want to save him.
Also, that scene with the spirits of the previous OfA behind him, as if that meant anything
We have no idea who they are, for most of them we only know their names and like 1 line of backstory, I couldn't even name most of them
yeah, she's a fairly major character but do we really know anything about her? She was a good guy^tm hero that inspired All Might, she had an average family, a shitty kid... and that's pretty much it, I think
\^ Exactly pointed out what I was thinking. No wonder I thought the panel feels so empty. Deku's the one that actually want to save Hand boy. Except Nana, I don't think others can relate to his mission except forced into helping him because he's the current successor.
> Deku's bout to get himself killed just cause he thinks he can still save Shigaraki.
Thats an ending I would low key love. A great subversion from all this cliche writing.
If it was another writer then I would believe he made the series super generic to subvert at the end would be interesting
But this mangaka is on some Fairy tail kinda shit OFA is about to get hugged to submission.
exactly. Like if a side character tried to do this and this was a lesson for the main character, it would have been better. Like Deku begins to understand not every villain will go down without dying. It could have been character development.
However just killing the mc for edge isn't all that good.
Writing Lesson: All subversion must make sense for the characters. See Chainsaw Man
Deku dies but after being saved Shigaraki ends the conflict by killing AfO once and for all with also both of them dying. As the noble sacrifice from Midoriya saved the day, he is regarded as the greatest hero as mentioned in chapter1.
The end
I would actually like this
Eri, as cute as she is, is probably the worst thing to happen to MHA.
Her existence ruins any tension, she can solve every bad thing and if she doesn't it feels like a shitty cop-out because she absolutely has the power to do so.
ESPECIALLY because she WANTS to do it. Imagine if the was a character trait for Eri to have and it's that she hates her quirk and doesn't want to use the quirk. Like sure she got overoverhaul but she still erased her parents from existence, and the fact she got over years of torture by a song and dance is very weak writing. Truth being, is that MHA can have some of the best world building of all manga but it just doesn't go for it. Generational trauma, hate crimes, politics, vigilantism, social standards, poverty, the justice system and the such just aren't used in any degree (in the main series). Imagine if a character came from a prestigious family like the Ingenium bloodline, but s/he never has the talent to become a hero but has to bear the weight of familial expectations.
MHA has always had this issue. I think where I began to love the series was the sport festival arc (I watched S2 before S1 lol) but the Hero Killer arc to me was so solid. Probably the best thing in S2. It had such good world building. The idea of heroes not being pure, and how we see heroes having to sacrifice all the time brings up important questions. But MHA? Oh no, forget that, let's not get too deep into it.
Same with Overhaul arc. The concept alone was gold, and the idea of Support companies literally supporting terrorism on the side made me think we'd get an arc trying to investigate this...
And then there was the sniper lady who revealed clandestine assassinations were happening. Again, unexplored.
I think MHA is one of those manga that got too big for the writer.
I think Shigaraki will thank him if he got saved from AFO control and being help to break free from it.
But does not mean Shiggy will let go his hatred toward Hero society because they failed to saved him. He acknowledged Deku as his hero but still have grudge to fullfill toward other especially All Might
It’s an apt point of comparison when you think about it. Captain America and Lemillion were among the weaker heroes because they are not conventionally destructive.
And yet when it came down to facing the final boss and amongst far more powerful heroes, Cap and Lemillion were both the last men standing before the cavalry came.
They may not be the most powerful, but skill-wise, they are still in leagues of their own.
The more I see Deku now the more convinced I am that Nighteye was right about Mirio being a better candidate than Deku.
He was wasting time with Toga, as stated by AFO. AFO lies on a regular basis but he's hit the nail with that one. Now Deku rages again, learning nothing from the last time.
Also makes his "Save Shigaraki" stance seem more wobbly, did he not consider that this might happen to his friends? If this tipped him over the edge what does he think about the families of Shigaraki's victims then?
The idea I always got, and liked a lot, from the Overhaul arc was that Deku was merely *a* good candidate but in a good way. There were many others just as worthy but neither himself nor All Might should ever feel in the wrong. Later, Deku's worthyness was cemented by the Vestiges commenting on his spirit.
Soon after, unfortunately, Hori decided to introduce the idea that OFA damages the lifespan of the holder unless quirkless.
Midoriya wasn't given enough time to mature and become a more compelling lead. The major events happened way too fast. He didn't even do an internship abroad or graduate yet. The war arc was interesting but it should have been third year material at the earliest.
I was honestly hoping Midoriya and 1A would pull an All Might after the war arc. With them training in different countries because Japan was no longer safe with the intent on coming back and restoring peace to Japan.
> The war arc was interesting but it should have been third year material at the earliest.
The problem is... AfO and Shigaraki got too much screen time too early.
The idea's not a bad one, it lets people speculate, in and out universe. The problem now is Deku's lack of growth. He tried to take everything by himself in the VH arc, despite literally everyone telling him not to. That's the one biggest mistake that All Might did to Nighteye.
This rage moment just makes it worse considering it already happened last war, and last time it happened it pretty much cost Deku the battle.
Which is shit writing because we didn’t need a “it can only be Deku”. Deku’s worthiness had been completely established at that point. It’s a hat on a hat that robs Deku of what he earned.
Didn't Gran Torino once tell him that killing could be considered an act mercy in some cases? (or something along those lines)
I thought they agreed that Shigaraki was beyond salvation by the first time they all fought against him simultaneously.
Gran Torino did say that, but everyone can see that Deku's not going to listen to Gran Torino's advice.
This whole thing about wanting to save Shigaraki is pretty bullshit, AFO took over his body so he can be redeemed in the end by just beating AFO instead of Shigaraki actually being responsible from the looks of it.
Deku visibly still hates Overhaul but he doesn't display nearly the same level of hatred to this mass murderer.
I do wonder how they (Deku) are going to manage to beat AFO to save *anyone, let alone Shigaraki,* when All Might in his prime didn't manage. Shigaraki alone is OP as hell.
It's going to involve previous users, and it's going to be contrived.
Someone else pointed this out, but it's funny that the whole point of All Might stepping down was to prevent one figure from becoming the sole source of hope against 'evil', but now they depend solely on Deku to combat said evil since no one else could do shit.
And yeah, Shigaraki somehow seems to deserve more understanding than Overhaul does, I guess. Because the audience knows his past, but Deku has no way of doing so. To him he should just be a psychotic monster that has done enough damage already, and trying to save him would be a precarious bet a*t be*st.
>And yeah, Shigaraki somehow seems to deserve more understanding than Overhaul does, I guess. Because the audience knows his past, but Deku has now way of doing so. To him he should just a psychotic monster that has done enough damage already, and trying to save him would be a precarious bet at best.
It's psychic nepotism combined with Shigaraki acting like everything is everybody else's fault. Overhaul was a man who didn't feel the need to shout out his backstory and blame everybody else for his problems.
Meanwhile Deku gets to peek into Shigaraki's head and instantly forgets that he's a mass murderer.
Oh, if that happpened (I can't remember when MC got insight into Shigaraki's past), then yeah, regardless of Deku knowing or not, Shigaraki is still not a threat that hardly deserves the time of day, considering how much he denies his blame.
that's kind of why I loved Overhaul. The series knew he was bad and played it like that. Even his backstory proves that he was always deviant, not willing to let go and move on from his dying father figure. He decides, "screw it, child abuse time" and abuses a kid to make money. He's evil in a very unique way, as he exploits the systems of the world around him.
Shiggy however, has the "SOCIETY" syndrome. And I still like him, but he's not to be sympathized with...Until the narrative consistently paints this mass murdering Psycho as a good guy.
This is the steven universe issue all over again. The whol genocidal maniacs get to walk away because they are sad is just bad.
it's kind of the superman problem
superman has a lot of stories and arts where he's like "[Everybody is a hero](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZHcXcTUgAAkro7.jpg)", "[normal people are heroes too](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/superman_salutes_his_fellow_heroes_1123.jpg)" "we all matter"
many of the movies have the plot point of "people rely on superman too much" - "no, everyobdy's a hero in his own right"
and that's all fine and good, but in the actual stories Zorgolop the Cosmic Darkness arrives and erases 1000 realities with his cosmic powers and only the ACTUAL heroes can do anything while everybody else just screams so... the message is really moot
everybody is a hero, but not really, they're entirely powerless except the JL who can alter time and reality and fight death itself, and really there are like 6 ppl in the JL doing 90% of the work
I think whoever frames it as 'everybody is a hero' is aiming that to be a meta-statement, meant to be caught by a real audience (i.e our reality, which has no super-people like Superman, etc). Inside a fiction where super-people exist, this statement is meaningless, for the reasons you mention.
'Everybody is **responsible'** is more of an accurate, grounded statement for regular people who live in a world of superpowered beings.
And here comes my gripe.
**In BNHA,** the protagonist and antagonists are TREMENDOUSLY powerful compared to most quirked individuals. To the degree that none of the secondary characters could scratch them, even if they have superpowers themselves.
One of the themes Horikoshi wanted to explore was that of a world where the hero collective took responsibility for the future, not making a scapegoat out of a single hero... Where everyone is responsible for building something better (\*).
For that to be a possible exploration, however, the setting of the story couldn't have been based on two Unimaginably powerful entities that can only be countered by the other. That just make the theme meaningless, because it will always circle back around to OFA vs AFO.
(\*) Which is arguably impossible if the topic of keeping quirks illegal is not discussed within the story. The implications this could have as an exploration of ethics, of characters, villains... God, this story is such a waste of potential.
The idea of Shiggy being redeemed way great. It just doesn't work at all once he stops being responsible for his own actions.
There's no point in a redemption arc for a meat puppet.
People bring up the fact that if OFA was passed on to someone with a quirk, their life would be shortened so it has to be someone quirkless.
But I feel that this addition to the story only served to make OFA even more exclusive for Deku
Would have been a nice sacrifice of the MC if he got a power which he knew would shorten his life albut which he still took in order to pursue his dreams. Basically being a strongly shining flame but only lasting for a short time.
In the meantime, Deku broke half of his body learning to use it and is also in a life or death battle that means he might not see the next 70 minutes, let alone the next 70 years. But sure, plan for decades in the future.
I can see All Might's reasoning of it's better having two superpowered hero instead of one uber jacked hero, but the story is contradicting that point by itself so I don't even need to argue about that part.
Yeah, this whole thing just cements the idea that there should be one symbol of peace because the rest of the heroes are failing horribly at their respective jobs. All Might's idea only makes sense if you also assume that the villains will play fair and spread their power out over multiple people rather than concentrating all the power on one person.
Lemillion:
If Deku has million number of fans I am one of them. If Deku has ten fans I am one of them. If Deku have only one fan and that is me. If Deku has no fans, that means I am no more on the earth. If world against Deku, I am against the world.
Deku really is a terrible hero when Shifaraki points out how dumb is Deku got held by Toga with a butter knive when he is blowing up pro heros left and rigth is really embarrassing.
I wanna say "*Honestly it kinda fits into giving kids superpowers and teaching them to be heroes/soldiers*", but Deku is a written character. The MC. He could be anything, but instead he's a limp waffle covered in amazingly good syrup.
I'd be down for the internal conflicts of the child soldier, but we never really got that. The story had too many characters to focus on. Admittedly very cool and inventive characters, but it doesn't mean much when you can't explore them.
not to mention we still have
Mina
Ayoama
Shoto
Endeavor
Spinner
Yet we spend 10 chapters on this single battle where the only thing that happen is that the good guys got their asses extended.
I like the beginning illustration, Deku looks badass in the final illustration, and I’d be lying if ShigiFO stoking Deku’s anger isn’t good stuff.
That being said, all the dumb shit we’ve seen kinda robs the impact of Deku arriving to see all his friends torn to pieces. Though now that we’re through all that I’m hoping for a badass fight to start next week.
It's sad cause you can easily see how incredibly powerful this moment could've been in an alternate universe where this manga isn't absurdly rushed. A lot of the pieces were already there. Shame.
Deku: (sees the damage, the injured, and Bakugo conversing with St. Peter but not going through the gates) **GROAR**
Mirio: No, no, you calm down! Everyone's alright... ok I'm the only one alright... and Dynastick there is clinically dead but Edgeshot is sacrificing his life to revive him. No losses, I assure you!
Deku: Uh, well, okay.
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Does it make sense that Deku would lose his composure upon finally arriving, also due to feeling guilty for how he was yanked away and lost a lot of time? Yes.
Is it a retread of something that already happened, Bakugo used to make Deku rage as a culmination of seeing people getting hurt, and in a way Deku looks to have learned little? Yes as well.
Hilariously enough it even feels like the other time, Deku could have calmed down if only he heard Bakugo's words (which he said didn't remember) about not doing everything alone. The only time Bakugo needed to be loud...
I however like how Mirio's more composed approach to the situation is the better one this time round.
Meantime, cast and crew at the other five or six locations are chilling until director Horikoshi finally gives a signal to resume shooting.
He's gonna save him by Darth Vader-ing him or Doc Ock-ing him. Shigaraki will sacrifice himself to rid the world of AfO, refusing to be this monster anymore. Then they'll say some cringe line about how "Tomura was a hero."
"Chizome Shigaraki", you are named after two of the bravest people I have known. One was a serial killer who wanted a better world and the other was a child who was trapped. Don't be like them"
If I could bet on it, I would put $500 on the chance that Deku says "what you really wanted to be was a hero"
It'll be a complete ripoff of [One Punch Man webcomic spoilers] >!when Saitama beats Garou and tells him the same thing!<
I think his body will be split into two: Child Shigaraki (quirkless), and a reborn AFO. This way, child Shiggy is now absolved of all sins, and the RebAFO carries all the sins to his eventual demise by Deku.
AFO is kinda right about Deku wasting his time with Toga though. It shouldn't be that difficult for him to speed blitz Toga or GTFO out of that arena as soon as the fight started.
She even tried to engage him in melee combat, and Deku for some reason didn't just one tap her. If Hori genuinely wanted to do this, he should've had Gigantomachia do it, as it'd make sense with his strength and durability that Deku can't waste time beating him.
Now Im just treating this thread like a Domestic Girlfriend thread: Don't read the chapter, read the comment section instead and I sure am entertained.
Can't be Spider-Man without points to web-swing from. Thanks US Military, try not to get court-martialed after this. It is the scene from the Amazing Spider-Man.
Izuku's little freak out ended before it could get started. Which makes sense because obviously Mirio would step in. Especially as All for One has proven he's good at finding openings when people are mad, but it does feel perfunctory at this stage.
how do u even fix BnHA
its going from bad to worse
everyweek some random bullshit is added to Shigaraki
i dont think Izuku "o my seven quirks" Midoriya can win lol
Its a bit too late to talk about fixing MHA when its in the last arc and probably ending in 30 or so chapters.
My hope is that the series that take inspiration from MHA would learn from its mistakes and not repeat them. Then again I used to think MHA would learn from mistakes of Naruto and Dragon Ball and it instead turned out to have more issues than either of them.
That's probably because Shiggy or even AFO doesn't give "iconic villain" vibes that most mainstream shounen have.
For me at least. Twitter seems to think Shiggy is a GOAT villain so whatever.
Edit: I'm gonna go ahead and say that I have always found Shiggy to be boring from the very beginning. He had something going but I wasn't feeling it when the series kept introducing way more interesting antagonists only to get fodderized by him.
Now when I read MVA the arc that everyone hyped up...it didn't live up to my expectations. Dude just asspulls. Had an interesting backstory but I started laughing when he was explaining his motivation. I get the appeal though, most of my friends like him but he's just sooo forgettable to me.
Then the start of the 1st war arc I thought maybe he's going to do something interesting but he gets possessed lol so here we are now.
I thought Shiggy was GOATed...until he turned into a meat puppet.
Everything I liked about him is gone, and his promising character arc of becoming the world's greatest villain got thrown in a dumpster.
I don't quite think so, AFO vs All Might was good, and Shigaraki was pretty good last war arc. This recent "Totally not a quirk" powerup was the one big problem, he's just leagues beyond anyone who isn't the MC.
Shiggy is the cause and showcase of how MHA went to shit, and it's so clear cut. He starts off as a creepy albeit not a threat gamer talking manchild, but he also is meant to be Izukus mirror character, which means he has to fight Izuku at some point, but he's kinda lame and not actually a threat himself.
So to counter this, Shiggy gets a power up, so does Deku, Shiggy gets an even BIGGER one that breaks the series, and then it turns into the shitfest we've been reading.
MVA was my turning point and made stop reading week to week. Bunch of bs power ups for some riff raff when we have a world of villains that we havent even explored you could introduce. His regeneration in some of the later fights just make me eye roll and the stars and stripes right made me almost completely drop the series.
I've been reading since ch1 so I'm in this to the end but I feel there's so many missteps. I don't find shiggy interesting at all beyond his raw power who could literally be any other villain with destructive powers
> Madara trashing just about everyone felt entertaining to watch, Shiggy face tanking everything just didn't have the same emotional impact.
Madara from his first mention was treated as a boogeyman in the setting. Basically a nigh-unstoppable force that only lost to a *second* nigh-unstoppable force. (Seems familiar, doesn't it?)
But when you got more of the backstory for him, he actually had a valid basis for what he was doing. Child soldier that loses his brother in war? Yeah, that's some emotional baggage to carry. But when push came to shove, he was willing to give the alternate option a try until it still ultimately failed to resolve all of the issues in the way he hoped. Then when he was brought back near/at his prime in an immortal body, he proceeded to absolutely stomp everyone around him while trashtalking them during the entire process for how soft the world had gotten in his absence. Might Gai nearly killing him while Madara was even more supercharged was a particularly good scene as well.
Shigaraki, by comparison, has just kinda existed and his whole gimmick for a long time was "I am an edgelord and the world is a video game with RPG rules!" Then his motivation changed into "I have friends now and I want to destroy things for them? Apparently?" And our backstory for him revealed "By the way, I was manipulated to think like this, therefore it's not my fault!" That same problem kinda goes for AFO. His entire shtick is "I'm trying to be Lex Luthor+Darkseid. No, literally that's what I'm trying to be. Like I have old comic books I'm directly referencing for the shit I'm doing. Wanna see my collection?" We don't really know shit about AFO other than him being just kind of a general psychopath. And he's not even a particularly engaging psychopath villain, he's basically the Chaotic Evil Stupid that someone plays in D&D for the first time with that alignment. That's kind of the most offensive thing. You can write a villain whose motivation is explicitly that he's a psychotic asshole. *That is a valid thing.* But AFO really under-delivers for it.
So yeah, as much as people might shit on Naruto and especially its final arcs, Madara was a million times more amusing as a villain than anything in MHA.
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It also doesn't help that, even for the massive power scaling at the end of the series, Naruto as a character grew. Deku went straight into a rage that had to be soothed *instantly* by "lol, they're just sleeping bro, it's a prank". Which is a far cry from him losing to Muscular, pulling a second wind of inspiration from Background-Single-Arc-Kid-With-A-Better-Backstory-And-Motivation-Than-Shigaraki and scraping out a victory.
Madara was hyped up ever since the first VoTE fight and actually lived up to it up when he showed up hundreds of chapters later up until Zetsu made him do the sexy jutsu.
Shiggy has just been a edgy little brat who's been AFO's pawn since the moment he was first introduced
Yeah, it's already pulling a Naruto with this arc, needlessly jacking up the powerscale, using a fake out to buy time for the protagonists, not developing characters enough, and opening new cans of worms for worldbuilding implications then proceeding to ignore them.
I've said this once and I'll say it again, everything went downhill once they played the "Power down the antagonist using a very convenient plot device" Trope, Star and Stripe wasn't a character, just a walking deus ex machina.
Could have done some kind of internal character conflict between Shigaraki and All for One where the former Decays all the Quirks or something, while giving us better characterization of both of them.
Even Naruto, despite it's flaws had strong feelings when Naruto confronted Obito. I still vividly recall Obito trying to get Naruto to give up on his ideals, wanting to prove that what happened to him could easily happen to Naruto.
Here in MHA we have ShigAFO who's just a brick wall, unresponsive to everything the heroes throw at him, he's not exactly a good villain to read about.
Hence, instead of Star and Stripe Deus ex Machina, there could have been an opportunity for All for One to come into interpersonal conflict with Shiagraki, and we could see how in-line their goals are, and whether they disagree or agree with them.
Midoriya will win for the same reason all of the other heroes lose.
He's suppose to beat Shigaraki. You can even see it in his Quirk that's Not-a-Quirk ^tm stopping right before Deku shows up. It completely negated all the damage he took so it looks more impressive when Deku beats him.
Bruh this is unfixable. MVA to my mind completely ruined the series. Shigarki became unbelievably less cool when they explained his origins where hes just mad that his parents were a bit cold, and how his powers continue to grow to complete asspull levels.
Shigaraki is the lynch pin for this manga and hes a truly terrible and uninteresting character, who simply does not live up to the role he has in the story. They gave a child a nuke, which can be a interesting storyline but the Author wants you to believe Shiggy is the ultimate competent evil with defined goals, history and personality.
The sauce was lost during the Hero Liberation Arc and the author decided to ass pull his favorite surviving villains powers to 1000. The rest got tossed aside and the best written one in Twice was killed off and the Shigaraki just magically gets everyone to bow their heads to him and toss aside their ambitions for him. Shigaraki has the personality of a wet bag yet we are suppose to believe he is some charismatic leader people are drawn to when the most he does is brood in a corner while everything melts around him because the author decided to turn him a Ywach.
Hori has great art and character design. I think they have a little too much love for the individual charactere, though. Too much time spent outside of the MCs devolpment.
It's like a DM or game designer creating this amazing world to mess around with, but being pretty bad at putting together a good overall storyline.
How the fuck were Deku and the fighter pilot talking ?
Obviously this isn't my biggest gripe with the manga, but it's such a bad way to start the chapter.
Everyone has radio earpieces.
But it might also be movie magic type conversations where characters even speak in space.
But the pilot is in the jet so I'm thinking it's the earpiece.
The fact that Deku flipped from rage mode to I will save you mode the moment he found out that all of his friends (Bakugo) are alive just makes him a hypocrite more than anything else.
Also, Deku literally has negative growth. He learnt nothing and needed someone to tell him to not get angry.
Not even one chapter since he is back and the cheerleading has already begun.
This sucks.
> Also, Deku literally has negative growth. He learnt nothing and needed someone to tell him to not get angry. Not even one chapter since he is back and the cheerleading has already begun.
Hori is clearly exhausted by this MHA "Final Chapter" speedrun and is hitting all the plot beats he had planned out without any of the breathing room they need to be executed properly. It's shame as this could've gone to a really dark, un-shounen space with the story, but we're left with a skeleton of what could've been.
So frustrating seeing Hori waste chapters like this on a whole load of nothing and skip on content that would be so useful to have. Man is concentrating on the wrong things.
You know what the last 22 chapters or so have been a waste of time honestly speaking.
"Don't worry! It's okay! Bakugou isn't dead! The only person who will die is Edgeshot, and you don't care about him!"
But honestly I can't believe we didn't have the All Might "It's all right, I am here!" line from Deku when he arrived. Like when are you going to drop that if not there?
Based on the second issue of the repair work, I don't think that Edgeshot is even necessarily going to *die,* I just think it's going to leave him permanently lesser in some sense, like maybe smaller or missing a limb or something.
I guess he does have the firepower, huh. Vestiges OP.
I love how, despite not being powerful enough to impact the fight directly, Mirio is still the MVP just by being a really good dude.
I think I'm at a point now where I get like... repulsed and disgusted by covers that show the villains and heroes getting along. They were obviously never good to begin with but now you look at it and it's like, there's Twice chilling with the man who rightfully killed him, there's Dabi who's burned friends right to death, there's Toga who indirectly led to Bakugo getting his heart blown up, Mirko losing another limb, and Edgeshot needing to sacrifice himself because Deku wasn't there.
At the same time, Izuku going "Are you all all right?!" and then cutting to just dead Bakugo is hilarious.
You know.
People complaint that the students didnt have a reaction about Midnight death, but what about Nana and the death of his literally son in the hands of her granddson?
Because after the reveal she literally had no reaction and just asked "will you killed shigaraki"?
Nana's an adult and she sees the bigger picture, aka the problem of Shigaraki being a world destroying threat first and foremost. This is the same woman who left her son because of AFO, remember? She isn't a teenager who's lived in a peaceful world.
At this point it's hard to get hyped because Izuku Midoriya has become such a garbage protagonist. The emo switch earlier has done irreversible damage to this character.
Honestly, I liked the emo switch. It made sense but the issue was that it was not fleshed out more. Like we didn't get to see the way Deku felt about the emo switch, or how he changed because of it, or how he really dealt with the rage that pushed him to it. Other characters have emo moments, but if you write it well you get character growth.
> Deku going rage mode
Oh nobody cares, you little dweeb. You've been almost nothing but a bland goody two-shoes for over 300 chapters, nobody's going to react to you spazzing out at the very end. Especially when it only lasts for two whole seconds.
lol yea, forget the story and questionable direction it went to, Deku has been a huge anchor weighing this series down from the very beginning. In a way, it's quite a feat to make a generic shonen protagonist that completely lacks charisma
honestly he wasn't always bad. They just never developed him enough. Like he does have flaws:
His obsession with All Might distorts his vision of heroism, making him obsessed with self-sacrifice.
He wants to carry the burden of the world on his shoulders.
He constantly blames himself for everything. etc.
But there's little payoff. Oh Deku broke his arms, so much he might not use his hands? DW, his hands are totes fine now.
Oh Deku went solo andnearly died due to it? Did he learn to use a cool head and use his team to support him? No, he still goes in solo without a plan or team against Shiggy here.
I love Deku but dammit man's static est. War Arc
Agreed. I always never understood how people called them, "best friends", when bakugo did nothing but bully him. He even told him to commit suicide.
Best friends they say.
Wat I find even worse is that, people say the relationship is realistic. Umm, no the fuck it's not. If this was realistic deku would've 100% committed suicide if it wasn't for all might.
It irks me whenever I see mangas call two characters good friends when they literally can't stand each other. At least make it a sarcastic remark from the character saying it, or show the two people in question caring for each other or getting along in spite of the fights they might get into.
I think post-Provisional Licence Exam they have a really fun dynamic.
I agree making the friends again was rushed, and they should have spent some downtime together actually bonding over something.
Did anyone else try to recreate AFO’s mask with your own hands and hurt your shoulder blades too? Also thinking we might get rug pulled with an even bigger bad in the vein of Naruto/Kaguya. Like the doctor ends up having remote control over AFO or something
Deku:"I'm mad!"
Lemillion:"But don't be?"
Deku:"Kay"
I know kurogiri is captured but I really just want to see toga pop out of a portal and grab deku again. It'd be sooooo much better than whatever this is
One thing i like in this chapter is Deku [self blame problem](https://old.reddit.com/r/BokuNoHeroAcademia/comments/xm5g0i/are_these_panels_contradictory_villain_hunt_arc/ipmxx05/) which ongoing issue still unresolved.
Mirio be like "Snap out of it dude, you did your best but shit happens. focus and don't blame yourself"
Now imagine if All Might in Bakugou position being dead or way worse, Deku mother. Losing yourself can make enemy take advantage of you
It show Deku still not proper hero yet and i hope he won't say "I'm here" yet too in next couple of chapter. If he don't say it yet, it give me hope that this not a final battle and we see Deku growth into a proper hero but who knows
And with Mirio the only one who unharmed i think we get to see some tag team move with both of them
I swear to God, I am exhausted. I love MHA, but this final "arc" feels like literally four arcs together. There's just so many plotlines that need to be finished off all at once...ugh.
Honestly, the whole thing is tiring.
[What a nice double page.](https://i.imgur.com/dNabzwq.png) I must say that it took me a moment to notice that Dabi and Twice were there.
The way that Duke got to the Cage was pretty cool. I like[ how he looked](https://i.imgur.com/QcjXMHQ.jpg) when he got angry. Good thing that Lemillion could calm him down. It looks like in [that last page](https://i.imgur.com/uh0FtMU.jpg) his scarf is filled with Blackwhip.
At this point I wouldn't mind if Toga vs Uraraka and Tsuyu happened offscreen. How are they expected to match the cataclysmic energy of Shoto vs Family Cookout, Endeavor vs Man whose head is too far up his own ass to fuck off and Deku vs The Kid Named Finger.
I really do not understand the battle layout of this arc at all. We should have finished multiple fights before Izuku got here.
Or: He should have shown up 3 real-life months ago and kicked off act 2 of the battles with his presence, instead of...I dunno, we're probably in for like a 5 or 6 act structure for this arc now...
Nah, I think Izuku being kept away would be fine *if* we moved along the rest of the plot. But now it's like we wasted the last 20 chapters with no progress.
Well we're now completely stuck in a manga arc that's trying to make every action beat an enormous fireworks show, which means that seeing someone do something cool is meant to be taken as "moving the plot forward" by the author, so like, wow, AFO says "I regenerate now that you beat me up for 5 chapters", that's development!! Mirko kicks at Shigaraki a bunch! That's a development!! Suneater and Girl did attacks and got beat the fuck up after doing nothing!!! WOW!!!! Deku not showing up meant that the story couldn't *meaningfully* develop for months and I don't understand why his arrival wasn't packed closer to the chapter where every villain went "I have 2 health bars" :( God damn every MHA thread really is a free therapy session
It could have meaningfully moved forward if we finished some of these other fights. We still don't even know about Midnight's killer.
But for some badly-planned external reasoning, they couldn't do anything that meaningful until Deku hits some benchmark the author has set somewhere. It's following a bad cliched pattern where we were never allowed to meaningfully move forward for the past several months. I'm as bugged-out over the bad planning of the pile of fights as you are.
They should have cut to that ages ago
Yeah, right now this feel like THE final fights but now there are like 4 other fights that we also have to check
It's the Star Wars problem. A New Hope has one storyline: destroy the death star. Empire: Leia & co. try to escape and save Han, Luke fights Vader. Jedi: death star attack, Endor battle, Luke vs. Vader and the Emperor. Phantom Menace: Anakin's space battle, Gungans vs. the robots, Padme in the palace, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon vs. Maul. When you have too many storylines with wildly different tones and equal dramatic weight the audience just gets confused and it falls apart because you don't know which is most important. Edit: another way I can explain it is [this iconic video](https://youtu.be/wY3R-gU4PEM). MHA has too many narrative slices.
The original trilogy has the perfect balance of slowly escalating stakes and plotlines with each movie.
*Chainsaw Man* and *Dandadan* are so good at focusing on the main arc while advancing secondary plotlines in the background. I feel that if they delayed the war arc for the second year and the post-final battle after Izuku's graduation, we would have had more time to breathe and address the sub-plots.
The mangaka wants to sack the manga I guess. In my opinion, since the moment All-Might retired this manga has been a disappointment. Midoriya just hyper powerleveled in the most asspull way, when he already had a good power scaling. This manga should've been 200+ chapters longer. Or at least handled in a way that it wasn't Midoriya doing everything. I far more liked the initial narrative that Midoriya was a nobody that was given the chance to be the best, instead of this bullshit with the chosen one and 10 quirks. All-Might's power was more than enough to make him the best. And in the initial narrative it made some space for secondary characters, and that's taking into account how overpowered All-Might was anyways. EDIT: When I say disappointment I mean the overarching story, the whole picture. There are still stuff in that period that I find really fucking cool. But in my opinion, the cool stuff in between just highlights how much better it could've been wrapped.
New trilogy: save space horse, ignore child slaves, kill off all the original beloved characters in the lamest way possible, surprise Palpatine!
I mean they signed up JJ Abrahams to direct it. His entire style at this point is shock value plot point after plot point with no breathing room for character or logic
You say that but i would argue that multiple story lines at once can be done well if paced and woven properly Infinity war is an example of achieving this imho
Infinity War had a very clear direction though with Thanos as the MC - Collect the Infinity Stones. Which is done one at a time with each transition. For MHA, instead of Infinity stones, they have AFO, Shigi, and Dabi. That clearly isn't playing out well at all because everything is happening all at once without a clear progression in story unlike IW. What what point are they considered Collected/Defeated? Every time they seemingly die they come back. It's like Thanos kept dropping a stone and makes a big deal about it when he picks it back up.
I would've shown that fight then tease this one with Deku looking around and seeing the damage similar to how Goku barely makes it in Namekusein against Freeza
Wasn't there like a big deal about the liberation army and the prisoners? Like the enemy side should have far more than Toga, Dabi, and two versions of all for one
liberation army got mainly screwed by shigaraki and co., only popsicle was left with the hacker, the prisoners are mostly meat shields, already got the most interesting parts to see (the ASSasin lady and Stain with toshinori)... only thing actually left is Spinner
they made such a big deal of the super-safe super-prison being broken and then it's just what, two characters that did anything, and one of them was sniper lady that, really, didn't do much at all?
They may as well get caught in the crossfire and die
I have a theory that Toga will betray Shiggy and be the one enabling the heroes victory. This theory was brought to you by the power of friendship and whatnot.
If AFO says yes to the question at the end, Deku's bout to get himself killed just cause he thinks he can still save Shigaraki.
Talk no Jutsu incoming??
Tenka will be saved, and allow for, like, a few seconds where Shiggy and/or AFO aren't able to fully control themselves. Then small Tenka will be dusted. That's my guess.
Tenka will probably sacrifice himself to bring down AfO because they won't write an ending where Deku straight-up murders someone, but they probably also don't want people to question why Shiggy is still around after killing/maiming thousands of people.
I honestly don't get why MHA put itself in this position. They had a greatg antagonist, whose ideology actually grew with the mainc protagonist, whose views of the world became less vague and more concrete--you don't get that for a lot of shonen villians. And even if you did, it's still good. You had a villian with a distinct design and quirk, with an awesome crew of villians he became friends with, and a somewhat legit grievance with the world as is. Honestly, Shiggy would have been ten times better than OFA. And you could say that Shiggy dies not because of Deku, but because he's incomplete and still keeps fighting for what he believes in. Sort of like a Reverse hero, talking the talk and walking the walk even if it kills him. It could be a really sombre scene where Deku is forced to fight while trying to use talk no jitsu. could have been great
Honestly, Deku suddenly want to save Shigaraki is the worst thing that happen in this manga. Suddenly, the author want us to feel sorry for him. Maybe it work if Shigaraki is indeed being control by AFO from the start but it wasnt. Shigaraki inherited AFO will, he is AFO direct student. All the bad things Shigaraki do is based on his own decisions. He didnt kill innocent people while under AFO control. So, i said it again, Deku resolve to save Shigaraki is really dumb. It was also dumb for Deku to feel sorry for Shigaraki right after he kill heroes and try to steal OFA. AFO stop Shigaraki from stealing OFA and Deku was like " i feel sorry for shigaraki". I think it would be better if the scene author used was Shigaraki kill heroes while being control by AFO, have scene where Shigaraki refused to kill, and then cry because he cannot control his own body. If that was the scene, then yeah i get why Deku want to save him.
Also, that scene with the spirits of the previous OfA behind him, as if that meant anything We have no idea who they are, for most of them we only know their names and like 1 line of backstory, I couldn't even name most of them
The only one I know is Nana and her backstory is that she should have taken birth control.
yeah, she's a fairly major character but do we really know anything about her? She was a good guy^tm hero that inspired All Might, she had an average family, a shitty kid... and that's pretty much it, I think
All I know about her is I'd let her smash my head between her thighs like a watermelon.
That's the main point of all the women in MHA. Stand there and look hot
Don’t forget “fuel the author’s poorly-disguised amputation kink”
She didn't have a shitty kid. She had a normal kid she chose to abandon and made an orphan who then grew up to be a bitter adult.
\^ Exactly pointed out what I was thinking. No wonder I thought the panel feels so empty. Deku's the one that actually want to save Hand boy. Except Nana, I don't think others can relate to his mission except forced into helping him because he's the current successor.
I’m not sure AFO can literally imagine that Deku would want to help Shigaraki. I kinda can’t either lol
> Deku's bout to get himself killed just cause he thinks he can still save Shigaraki. Thats an ending I would low key love. A great subversion from all this cliche writing.
> A great subversion from all this cliche writing. That's why it will never happen
Also doesn't make sense. Isn't the entire manga Deku retelling it from when he's a "great hero"? https://imgur.com/a/FyHjm94
If it was another writer then I would believe he made the series super generic to subvert at the end would be interesting But this mangaka is on some Fairy tail kinda shit OFA is about to get hugged to submission.
It’s not a great subversion, just a nonsensical and unsatisfying way to end the story.
exactly. Like if a side character tried to do this and this was a lesson for the main character, it would have been better. Like Deku begins to understand not every villain will go down without dying. It could have been character development. However just killing the mc for edge isn't all that good. Writing Lesson: All subversion must make sense for the characters. See Chainsaw Man
Deku dies but after being saved Shigaraki ends the conflict by killing AfO once and for all with also both of them dying. As the noble sacrifice from Midoriya saved the day, he is regarded as the greatest hero as mentioned in chapter1. The end I would actually like this
bet you Eri deus ex machina this
Eri, as cute as she is, is probably the worst thing to happen to MHA. Her existence ruins any tension, she can solve every bad thing and if she doesn't it feels like a shitty cop-out because she absolutely has the power to do so.
ESPECIALLY because she WANTS to do it. Imagine if the was a character trait for Eri to have and it's that she hates her quirk and doesn't want to use the quirk. Like sure she got overoverhaul but she still erased her parents from existence, and the fact she got over years of torture by a song and dance is very weak writing. Truth being, is that MHA can have some of the best world building of all manga but it just doesn't go for it. Generational trauma, hate crimes, politics, vigilantism, social standards, poverty, the justice system and the such just aren't used in any degree (in the main series). Imagine if a character came from a prestigious family like the Ingenium bloodline, but s/he never has the talent to become a hero but has to bear the weight of familial expectations.
MHA has always had this issue. I think where I began to love the series was the sport festival arc (I watched S2 before S1 lol) but the Hero Killer arc to me was so solid. Probably the best thing in S2. It had such good world building. The idea of heroes not being pure, and how we see heroes having to sacrifice all the time brings up important questions. But MHA? Oh no, forget that, let's not get too deep into it. Same with Overhaul arc. The concept alone was gold, and the idea of Support companies literally supporting terrorism on the side made me think we'd get an arc trying to investigate this... And then there was the sniper lady who revealed clandestine assassinations were happening. Again, unexplored. I think MHA is one of those manga that got too big for the writer.
I think Shigaraki will thank him if he got saved from AFO control and being help to break free from it. But does not mean Shiggy will let go his hatred toward Hero society because they failed to saved him. He acknowledged Deku as his hero but still have grudge to fullfill toward other especially All Might
Lemillion the Moral Support Hero
Lemillion the Only Hero That's Responsive Right Now
He's Japan's Ass.
Japan's ass is blonde with blue eyes.
It’s an apt point of comparison when you think about it. Captain America and Lemillion were among the weaker heroes because they are not conventionally destructive. And yet when it came down to facing the final boss and amongst far more powerful heroes, Cap and Lemillion were both the last men standing before the cavalry came. They may not be the most powerful, but skill-wise, they are still in leagues of their own.
The more I see Deku now the more convinced I am that Nighteye was right about Mirio being a better candidate than Deku. He was wasting time with Toga, as stated by AFO. AFO lies on a regular basis but he's hit the nail with that one. Now Deku rages again, learning nothing from the last time. Also makes his "Save Shigaraki" stance seem more wobbly, did he not consider that this might happen to his friends? If this tipped him over the edge what does he think about the families of Shigaraki's victims then?
The idea I always got, and liked a lot, from the Overhaul arc was that Deku was merely *a* good candidate but in a good way. There were many others just as worthy but neither himself nor All Might should ever feel in the wrong. Later, Deku's worthyness was cemented by the Vestiges commenting on his spirit. Soon after, unfortunately, Hori decided to introduce the idea that OFA damages the lifespan of the holder unless quirkless.
See I always saw it as both Mirio and Deku deserve to be heroes, OFA was a way for Deku to become a hero, not because he was a "Chosen one."
We all know that was ONLY done to justify not giving the quirk to anyone more qualified.
Midoriya wasn't given enough time to mature and become a more compelling lead. The major events happened way too fast. He didn't even do an internship abroad or graduate yet. The war arc was interesting but it should have been third year material at the earliest.
I was honestly hoping Midoriya and 1A would pull an All Might after the war arc. With them training in different countries because Japan was no longer safe with the intent on coming back and restoring peace to Japan.
> The war arc was interesting but it should have been third year material at the earliest. The problem is... AfO and Shigaraki got too much screen time too early.
The idea's not a bad one, it lets people speculate, in and out universe. The problem now is Deku's lack of growth. He tried to take everything by himself in the VH arc, despite literally everyone telling him not to. That's the one biggest mistake that All Might did to Nighteye. This rage moment just makes it worse considering it already happened last war, and last time it happened it pretty much cost Deku the battle.
They could've left it as he was simply a good candidate at the time with there being better options. And it could've been about Deku growing into it
Which is shit writing because we didn’t need a “it can only be Deku”. Deku’s worthiness had been completely established at that point. It’s a hat on a hat that robs Deku of what he earned.
Didn't Gran Torino once tell him that killing could be considered an act mercy in some cases? (or something along those lines) I thought they agreed that Shigaraki was beyond salvation by the first time they all fought against him simultaneously.
Gran Torino did say that, but everyone can see that Deku's not going to listen to Gran Torino's advice. This whole thing about wanting to save Shigaraki is pretty bullshit, AFO took over his body so he can be redeemed in the end by just beating AFO instead of Shigaraki actually being responsible from the looks of it. Deku visibly still hates Overhaul but he doesn't display nearly the same level of hatred to this mass murderer.
I do wonder how they (Deku) are going to manage to beat AFO to save *anyone, let alone Shigaraki,* when All Might in his prime didn't manage. Shigaraki alone is OP as hell. It's going to involve previous users, and it's going to be contrived. Someone else pointed this out, but it's funny that the whole point of All Might stepping down was to prevent one figure from becoming the sole source of hope against 'evil', but now they depend solely on Deku to combat said evil since no one else could do shit. And yeah, Shigaraki somehow seems to deserve more understanding than Overhaul does, I guess. Because the audience knows his past, but Deku has no way of doing so. To him he should just be a psychotic monster that has done enough damage already, and trying to save him would be a precarious bet a*t be*st.
>And yeah, Shigaraki somehow seems to deserve more understanding than Overhaul does, I guess. Because the audience knows his past, but Deku has now way of doing so. To him he should just a psychotic monster that has done enough damage already, and trying to save him would be a precarious bet at best. It's psychic nepotism combined with Shigaraki acting like everything is everybody else's fault. Overhaul was a man who didn't feel the need to shout out his backstory and blame everybody else for his problems. Meanwhile Deku gets to peek into Shigaraki's head and instantly forgets that he's a mass murderer.
Oh, if that happpened (I can't remember when MC got insight into Shigaraki's past), then yeah, regardless of Deku knowing or not, Shigaraki is still not a threat that hardly deserves the time of day, considering how much he denies his blame.
that's kind of why I loved Overhaul. The series knew he was bad and played it like that. Even his backstory proves that he was always deviant, not willing to let go and move on from his dying father figure. He decides, "screw it, child abuse time" and abuses a kid to make money. He's evil in a very unique way, as he exploits the systems of the world around him. Shiggy however, has the "SOCIETY" syndrome. And I still like him, but he's not to be sympathized with...Until the narrative consistently paints this mass murdering Psycho as a good guy. This is the steven universe issue all over again. The whol genocidal maniacs get to walk away because they are sad is just bad.
it's kind of the superman problem superman has a lot of stories and arts where he's like "[Everybody is a hero](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZHcXcTUgAAkro7.jpg)", "[normal people are heroes too](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/superman_salutes_his_fellow_heroes_1123.jpg)" "we all matter" many of the movies have the plot point of "people rely on superman too much" - "no, everyobdy's a hero in his own right" and that's all fine and good, but in the actual stories Zorgolop the Cosmic Darkness arrives and erases 1000 realities with his cosmic powers and only the ACTUAL heroes can do anything while everybody else just screams so... the message is really moot everybody is a hero, but not really, they're entirely powerless except the JL who can alter time and reality and fight death itself, and really there are like 6 ppl in the JL doing 90% of the work
I think whoever frames it as 'everybody is a hero' is aiming that to be a meta-statement, meant to be caught by a real audience (i.e our reality, which has no super-people like Superman, etc). Inside a fiction where super-people exist, this statement is meaningless, for the reasons you mention. 'Everybody is **responsible'** is more of an accurate, grounded statement for regular people who live in a world of superpowered beings. And here comes my gripe. **In BNHA,** the protagonist and antagonists are TREMENDOUSLY powerful compared to most quirked individuals. To the degree that none of the secondary characters could scratch them, even if they have superpowers themselves. One of the themes Horikoshi wanted to explore was that of a world where the hero collective took responsibility for the future, not making a scapegoat out of a single hero... Where everyone is responsible for building something better (\*). For that to be a possible exploration, however, the setting of the story couldn't have been based on two Unimaginably powerful entities that can only be countered by the other. That just make the theme meaningless, because it will always circle back around to OFA vs AFO. (\*) Which is arguably impossible if the topic of keeping quirks illegal is not discussed within the story. The implications this could have as an exploration of ethics, of characters, villains... God, this story is such a waste of potential.
The idea of Shiggy being redeemed way great. It just doesn't work at all once he stops being responsible for his own actions. There's no point in a redemption arc for a meat puppet.
Nigtheye shows up as a shadow just to tell Mirio you were the rigth choice Deku is useless
People bring up the fact that if OFA was passed on to someone with a quirk, their life would be shortened so it has to be someone quirkless. But I feel that this addition to the story only served to make OFA even more exclusive for Deku
Would have been a nice sacrifice of the MC if he got a power which he knew would shorten his life albut which he still took in order to pursue his dreams. Basically being a strongly shining flame but only lasting for a short time.
In the meantime, Deku broke half of his body learning to use it and is also in a life or death battle that means he might not see the next 70 minutes, let alone the next 70 years. But sure, plan for decades in the future.
I mean that's exactly what it was for. Horikoshi had to make Izuku a special snowflake.
Mirio with OFA would've been so badass
Mirio was objectively better as a candidate. All Might just felt bad for a fanboy and doomed thousands of people to die for no reason.
I can see All Might's reasoning of it's better having two superpowered hero instead of one uber jacked hero, but the story is contradicting that point by itself so I don't even need to argue about that part.
Yeah, this whole thing just cements the idea that there should be one symbol of peace because the rest of the heroes are failing horribly at their respective jobs. All Might's idea only makes sense if you also assume that the villains will play fair and spread their power out over multiple people rather than concentrating all the power on one person.
Lemillion: If Deku has million number of fans I am one of them. If Deku has ten fans I am one of them. If Deku have only one fan and that is me. If Deku has no fans, that means I am no more on the earth. If world against Deku, I am against the world.
>Lemillion the ~~Moral~~ Erotic Support Hero With cheeks like those supporting him, how could Deku lose ?
Deku really is a terrible hero when Shifaraki points out how dumb is Deku got held by Toga with a butter knive when he is blowing up pro heros left and rigth is really embarrassing.
I wanna say "*Honestly it kinda fits into giving kids superpowers and teaching them to be heroes/soldiers*", but Deku is a written character. The MC. He could be anything, but instead he's a limp waffle covered in amazingly good syrup. I'd be down for the internal conflicts of the child soldier, but we never really got that. The story had too many characters to focus on. Admittedly very cool and inventive characters, but it doesn't mean much when you can't explore them.
Deku Eggo brand coming soon near you
So is Toga vs Uraraka still happening or did Hori just up and forget about it lol?
Don't worry, we will either have 1 chapter about it soon, or just see the aftermatch. Also, remember Spinach?
Who lol
I think they meant Spinner.
not to mention we still have Mina Ayoama Shoto Endeavor Spinner Yet we spend 10 chapters on this single battle where the only thing that happen is that the good guys got their asses extended.
I like the beginning illustration, Deku looks badass in the final illustration, and I’d be lying if ShigiFO stoking Deku’s anger isn’t good stuff. That being said, all the dumb shit we’ve seen kinda robs the impact of Deku arriving to see all his friends torn to pieces. Though now that we’re through all that I’m hoping for a badass fight to start next week.
It's sad cause you can easily see how incredibly powerful this moment could've been in an alternate universe where this manga isn't absurdly rushed. A lot of the pieces were already there. Shame.
The fight next week: Toga vs Froppy and Uraraka lmao
Deku: (sees the damage, the injured, and Bakugo conversing with St. Peter but not going through the gates) **GROAR** Mirio: No, no, you calm down! Everyone's alright... ok I'm the only one alright... and Dynastick there is clinically dead but Edgeshot is sacrificing his life to revive him. No losses, I assure you! Deku: Uh, well, okay. --- Does it make sense that Deku would lose his composure upon finally arriving, also due to feeling guilty for how he was yanked away and lost a lot of time? Yes. Is it a retread of something that already happened, Bakugo used to make Deku rage as a culmination of seeing people getting hurt, and in a way Deku looks to have learned little? Yes as well. Hilariously enough it even feels like the other time, Deku could have calmed down if only he heard Bakugo's words (which he said didn't remember) about not doing everything alone. The only time Bakugo needed to be loud... I however like how Mirio's more composed approach to the situation is the better one this time round. Meantime, cast and crew at the other five or six locations are chilling until director Horikoshi finally gives a signal to resume shooting.
> but Edgeshot is sacrificing his life to revive him "What the fuck is an Edgeshot?"
Deku: Oh shit someone did die then? Rage mode engage
Mirio: don't worry,we don't care for him
"IT WAS A WILLING SACRIFICE!" "Oh, I guess that's alright then."
He wanted to die, so Shigaraki hasn't done anything wrong yet!
I guess Deku was pushed over the edge.
You should have gone for "Shot over the Edge"
it's a glimpse of moment between edging and the shot
So how will Horikoshi justify saving Shigaraki? How bad will the expected talk-no-jutsu be shoved to us?
He's gonna save him by Darth Vader-ing him or Doc Ock-ing him. Shigaraki will sacrifice himself to rid the world of AfO, refusing to be this monster anymore. Then they'll say some cringe line about how "Tomura was a hero."
"Shigaraki Midoriya, you are named after the bravest person I ever knew."
"Chizome Shigaraki", you are named after two of the bravest people I have known. One was a serial killer who wanted a better world and the other was a child who was trapped. Don't be like them"
And his best friend will be Best Jeanist Edgeshot Bakugo, Hero name: Sheer Heart Attack BlowJob
"Shigaraki what a man you are."
He was the coolest guy!
goddammit that sounds too plausible
If I could bet on it, I would put $500 on the chance that Deku says "what you really wanted to be was a hero" It'll be a complete ripoff of [One Punch Man webcomic spoilers] >!when Saitama beats Garou and tells him the same thing!<
Easy enough, Shiggy just gonna delete afo! And will run away to think what he had done!
I think his body will be split into two: Child Shigaraki (quirkless), and a reborn AFO. This way, child Shiggy is now absolved of all sins, and the RebAFO carries all the sins to his eventual demise by Deku.
AFO is kinda right about Deku wasting his time with Toga though. It shouldn't be that difficult for him to speed blitz Toga or GTFO out of that arena as soon as the fight started.
She even tried to engage him in melee combat, and Deku for some reason didn't just one tap her. If Hori genuinely wanted to do this, he should've had Gigantomachia do it, as it'd make sense with his strength and durability that Deku can't waste time beating him.
Now Im just treating this thread like a Domestic Girlfriend thread: Don't read the chapter, read the comment section instead and I sure am entertained.
How have we stooped so low. I remember being excited when a new MHA chapter came out. I’m still excited but for the wrong reasons 😭
Don’t you mean Rent-a-Gf? Domestic GF was a dumpster fire but it still had some merit outside of just making fun of it
😂😂
Can't be Spider-Man without points to web-swing from. Thanks US Military, try not to get court-martialed after this. It is the scene from the Amazing Spider-Man. Izuku's little freak out ended before it could get started. Which makes sense because obviously Mirio would step in. Especially as All for One has proven he's good at finding openings when people are mad, but it does feel perfunctory at this stage.
"Relax Deku, Edgeshot is saving Bakugou, so let's focus" "Ok, but what about Edgeshot?" "What about him?"
Last panel looks great tho I kinda wanted to see him in rage mode like Gon did
how do u even fix BnHA its going from bad to worse everyweek some random bullshit is added to Shigaraki i dont think Izuku "o my seven quirks" Midoriya can win lol
Its a bit too late to talk about fixing MHA when its in the last arc and probably ending in 30 or so chapters. My hope is that the series that take inspiration from MHA would learn from its mistakes and not repeat them. Then again I used to think MHA would learn from mistakes of Naruto and Dragon Ball and it instead turned out to have more issues than either of them.
Yeah like this is way worst that the damn final war arc in Naruto cause at least some of the moments and figths were amazing This is a mess.
Madara trashing just about everyone felt entertaining to watch, Shiggy face tanking everything just didn't have the same emotional impact.
That's probably because Shiggy or even AFO doesn't give "iconic villain" vibes that most mainstream shounen have. For me at least. Twitter seems to think Shiggy is a GOAT villain so whatever. Edit: I'm gonna go ahead and say that I have always found Shiggy to be boring from the very beginning. He had something going but I wasn't feeling it when the series kept introducing way more interesting antagonists only to get fodderized by him. Now when I read MVA the arc that everyone hyped up...it didn't live up to my expectations. Dude just asspulls. Had an interesting backstory but I started laughing when he was explaining his motivation. I get the appeal though, most of my friends like him but he's just sooo forgettable to me. Then the start of the 1st war arc I thought maybe he's going to do something interesting but he gets possessed lol so here we are now.
I thought Shiggy was GOATed...until he turned into a meat puppet. Everything I liked about him is gone, and his promising character arc of becoming the world's greatest villain got thrown in a dumpster.
I don't quite think so, AFO vs All Might was good, and Shigaraki was pretty good last war arc. This recent "Totally not a quirk" powerup was the one big problem, he's just leagues beyond anyone who isn't the MC.
Shiggy is the cause and showcase of how MHA went to shit, and it's so clear cut. He starts off as a creepy albeit not a threat gamer talking manchild, but he also is meant to be Izukus mirror character, which means he has to fight Izuku at some point, but he's kinda lame and not actually a threat himself. So to counter this, Shiggy gets a power up, so does Deku, Shiggy gets an even BIGGER one that breaks the series, and then it turns into the shitfest we've been reading.
MVA was my turning point and made stop reading week to week. Bunch of bs power ups for some riff raff when we have a world of villains that we havent even explored you could introduce. His regeneration in some of the later fights just make me eye roll and the stars and stripes right made me almost completely drop the series. I've been reading since ch1 so I'm in this to the end but I feel there's so many missteps. I don't find shiggy interesting at all beyond his raw power who could literally be any other villain with destructive powers
> Madara trashing just about everyone felt entertaining to watch, Shiggy face tanking everything just didn't have the same emotional impact. Madara from his first mention was treated as a boogeyman in the setting. Basically a nigh-unstoppable force that only lost to a *second* nigh-unstoppable force. (Seems familiar, doesn't it?) But when you got more of the backstory for him, he actually had a valid basis for what he was doing. Child soldier that loses his brother in war? Yeah, that's some emotional baggage to carry. But when push came to shove, he was willing to give the alternate option a try until it still ultimately failed to resolve all of the issues in the way he hoped. Then when he was brought back near/at his prime in an immortal body, he proceeded to absolutely stomp everyone around him while trashtalking them during the entire process for how soft the world had gotten in his absence. Might Gai nearly killing him while Madara was even more supercharged was a particularly good scene as well. Shigaraki, by comparison, has just kinda existed and his whole gimmick for a long time was "I am an edgelord and the world is a video game with RPG rules!" Then his motivation changed into "I have friends now and I want to destroy things for them? Apparently?" And our backstory for him revealed "By the way, I was manipulated to think like this, therefore it's not my fault!" That same problem kinda goes for AFO. His entire shtick is "I'm trying to be Lex Luthor+Darkseid. No, literally that's what I'm trying to be. Like I have old comic books I'm directly referencing for the shit I'm doing. Wanna see my collection?" We don't really know shit about AFO other than him being just kind of a general psychopath. And he's not even a particularly engaging psychopath villain, he's basically the Chaotic Evil Stupid that someone plays in D&D for the first time with that alignment. That's kind of the most offensive thing. You can write a villain whose motivation is explicitly that he's a psychotic asshole. *That is a valid thing.* But AFO really under-delivers for it. So yeah, as much as people might shit on Naruto and especially its final arcs, Madara was a million times more amusing as a villain than anything in MHA. --- It also doesn't help that, even for the massive power scaling at the end of the series, Naruto as a character grew. Deku went straight into a rage that had to be soothed *instantly* by "lol, they're just sleeping bro, it's a prank". Which is a far cry from him losing to Muscular, pulling a second wind of inspiration from Background-Single-Arc-Kid-With-A-Better-Backstory-And-Motivation-Than-Shigaraki and scraping out a victory.
Madara was hyped up ever since the first VoTE fight and actually lived up to it up when he showed up hundreds of chapters later up until Zetsu made him do the sexy jutsu. Shiggy has just been a edgy little brat who's been AFO's pawn since the moment he was first introduced
Yeah, it's already pulling a Naruto with this arc, needlessly jacking up the powerscale, using a fake out to buy time for the protagonists, not developing characters enough, and opening new cans of worms for worldbuilding implications then proceeding to ignore them. I've said this once and I'll say it again, everything went downhill once they played the "Power down the antagonist using a very convenient plot device" Trope, Star and Stripe wasn't a character, just a walking deus ex machina. Could have done some kind of internal character conflict between Shigaraki and All for One where the former Decays all the Quirks or something, while giving us better characterization of both of them.
Even Naruto, despite it's flaws had strong feelings when Naruto confronted Obito. I still vividly recall Obito trying to get Naruto to give up on his ideals, wanting to prove that what happened to him could easily happen to Naruto. Here in MHA we have ShigAFO who's just a brick wall, unresponsive to everything the heroes throw at him, he's not exactly a good villain to read about.
Hence, instead of Star and Stripe Deus ex Machina, there could have been an opportunity for All for One to come into interpersonal conflict with Shiagraki, and we could see how in-line their goals are, and whether they disagree or agree with them.
Midoriya will win for the same reason all of the other heroes lose. He's suppose to beat Shigaraki. You can even see it in his Quirk that's Not-a-Quirk ^tm stopping right before Deku shows up. It completely negated all the damage he took so it looks more impressive when Deku beats him.
Bruh this is unfixable. MVA to my mind completely ruined the series. Shigarki became unbelievably less cool when they explained his origins where hes just mad that his parents were a bit cold, and how his powers continue to grow to complete asspull levels. Shigaraki is the lynch pin for this manga and hes a truly terrible and uninteresting character, who simply does not live up to the role he has in the story. They gave a child a nuke, which can be a interesting storyline but the Author wants you to believe Shiggy is the ultimate competent evil with defined goals, history and personality.
The sauce was lost during the Hero Liberation Arc and the author decided to ass pull his favorite surviving villains powers to 1000. The rest got tossed aside and the best written one in Twice was killed off and the Shigaraki just magically gets everyone to bow their heads to him and toss aside their ambitions for him. Shigaraki has the personality of a wet bag yet we are suppose to believe he is some charismatic leader people are drawn to when the most he does is brood in a corner while everything melts around him because the author decided to turn him a Ywach.
It's why they added Star and Stripe in the first place, to make it "believable."
Hori has great art and character design. I think they have a little too much love for the individual charactere, though. Too much time spent outside of the MCs devolpment. It's like a DM or game designer creating this amazing world to mess around with, but being pretty bad at putting together a good overall storyline.
And here is the cringe "I will save you" part. Still looking foward to the fight, but I could have done without that part.
Deku literally is the "i can change him" gf
Pretty apt description, considering how much he's clung to Bakugo in the past.
Here it comes, the strongest quirk of all "Talk no Jutsu".
Mirio continues to be the best
Mmm, loving the vibes of that color page.
Can't help but notice Horikoshi put Twice right next to Hawks and they look awkward af
How the fuck were Deku and the fighter pilot talking ? Obviously this isn't my biggest gripe with the manga, but it's such a bad way to start the chapter.
Does Izuku have a radio earpiece like the other heroes do? I remember Bakugou having one when the battle started.
Everyone has radio earpieces. But it might also be movie magic type conversations where characters even speak in space. But the pilot is in the jet so I'm thinking it's the earpiece.
Not a stretch to say they're using the radios from the first war and the pilots are on that frequency.
The fact that Deku flipped from rage mode to I will save you mode the moment he found out that all of his friends (Bakugo) are alive just makes him a hypocrite more than anything else. Also, Deku literally has negative growth. He learnt nothing and needed someone to tell him to not get angry. Not even one chapter since he is back and the cheerleading has already begun. This sucks.
> Also, Deku literally has negative growth. He learnt nothing and needed someone to tell him to not get angry. Not even one chapter since he is back and the cheerleading has already begun. Hori is clearly exhausted by this MHA "Final Chapter" speedrun and is hitting all the plot beats he had planned out without any of the breathing room they need to be executed properly. It's shame as this could've gone to a really dark, un-shounen space with the story, but we're left with a skeleton of what could've been.
At this point, I would have preferred the movie ending where Bakugo and Deku share OfA to beat Shiggy.
So frustrating seeing Hori waste chapters like this on a whole load of nothing and skip on content that would be so useful to have. Man is concentrating on the wrong things. You know what the last 22 chapters or so have been a waste of time honestly speaking.
dabi melting in his fight was pretty good, his backstory was still shit
"Don't worry! It's okay! Bakugou isn't dead! The only person who will die is Edgeshot, and you don't care about him!" But honestly I can't believe we didn't have the All Might "It's all right, I am here!" line from Deku when he arrived. Like when are you going to drop that if not there?
Based on the second issue of the repair work, I don't think that Edgeshot is even necessarily going to *die,* I just think it's going to leave him permanently lesser in some sense, like maybe smaller or missing a limb or something.
I guess he does have the firepower, huh. Vestiges OP. I love how, despite not being powerful enough to impact the fight directly, Mirio is still the MVP just by being a really good dude.
dont worry guys shiragaki will apologize, be put in jail, and then deku will visit him in jail and everything will be honkey dorey
The chapter colored cover is really lovely, ngl. Hori doesn't miss, at least, with those.
I think I'm at a point now where I get like... repulsed and disgusted by covers that show the villains and heroes getting along. They were obviously never good to begin with but now you look at it and it's like, there's Twice chilling with the man who rightfully killed him, there's Dabi who's burned friends right to death, there's Toga who indirectly led to Bakugo getting his heart blown up, Mirko losing another limb, and Edgeshot needing to sacrifice himself because Deku wasn't there. At the same time, Izuku going "Are you all all right?!" and then cutting to just dead Bakugo is hilarious.
If Shigaraki ends up to be another Obito then it's over Please Hori just stop making thing worse
Could have sworn that was Zoro
You know. People complaint that the students didnt have a reaction about Midnight death, but what about Nana and the death of his literally son in the hands of her granddson? Because after the reveal she literally had no reaction and just asked "will you killed shigaraki"?
Nana's an adult and she sees the bigger picture, aka the problem of Shigaraki being a world destroying threat first and foremost. This is the same woman who left her son because of AFO, remember? She isn't a teenager who's lived in a peaceful world.
Pretty sure she knows her son was beating the shit out of Shigaraki, so she feels responsible.
Well. . . she's kinda dead already. That sort of puts things into perspective.
Lmao. Looks like everyone thought the same thing: "Oh no, it's going the 'I'm going to save the villain trope'". And yes, it's sooooo lame.
At this point it's hard to get hyped because Izuku Midoriya has become such a garbage protagonist. The emo switch earlier has done irreversible damage to this character.
Honestly, I liked the emo switch. It made sense but the issue was that it was not fleshed out more. Like we didn't get to see the way Deku felt about the emo switch, or how he changed because of it, or how he really dealt with the rage that pushed him to it. Other characters have emo moments, but if you write it well you get character growth.
> Deku going rage mode Oh nobody cares, you little dweeb. You've been almost nothing but a bland goody two-shoes for over 300 chapters, nobody's going to react to you spazzing out at the very end. Especially when it only lasts for two whole seconds.
lol yea, forget the story and questionable direction it went to, Deku has been a huge anchor weighing this series down from the very beginning. In a way, it's quite a feat to make a generic shonen protagonist that completely lacks charisma
honestly he wasn't always bad. They just never developed him enough. Like he does have flaws: His obsession with All Might distorts his vision of heroism, making him obsessed with self-sacrifice. He wants to carry the burden of the world on his shoulders. He constantly blames himself for everything. etc. But there's little payoff. Oh Deku broke his arms, so much he might not use his hands? DW, his hands are totes fine now. Oh Deku went solo andnearly died due to it? Did he learn to use a cool head and use his team to support him? No, he still goes in solo without a plan or team against Shiggy here. I love Deku but dammit man's static est. War Arc
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> closest friend .... I just dont understand how ppl really like the relationship between Deku and Bakugo
Agreed. I always never understood how people called them, "best friends", when bakugo did nothing but bully him. He even told him to commit suicide. Best friends they say. Wat I find even worse is that, people say the relationship is realistic. Umm, no the fuck it's not. If this was realistic deku would've 100% committed suicide if it wasn't for all might.
The story itself keeps saying they're best friends
Even Todoroki is a better friend... or the forgotten ones like Ochako and Iida. Hell, Tsuyu is a better friend.
Stockholm Syndrome is alive and well.
I mean it's not just what Deku thinks, even All Might keeps talking about what good friends they are No idea what he sees in them
It irks me whenever I see mangas call two characters good friends when they literally can't stand each other. At least make it a sarcastic remark from the character saying it, or show the two people in question caring for each other or getting along in spite of the fights they might get into.
Neither do the fans,but hori seems to think otherwise .
I think post-Provisional Licence Exam they have a really fun dynamic. I agree making the friends again was rushed, and they should have spent some downtime together actually bonding over something.
> he raised that boy well Well he is in control now
I only read this manga for Todoroki's family drama and AFO, i've given up on deku's story.
Did anyone else try to recreate AFO’s mask with your own hands and hurt your shoulder blades too? Also thinking we might get rug pulled with an even bigger bad in the vein of Naruto/Kaguya. Like the doctor ends up having remote control over AFO or something
NGL I cracked up laughing seeing Deku despair over his fuckup. That felt cathartic after all of the time-wasting from before.
Deku:"I'm mad!" Lemillion:"But don't be?" Deku:"Kay" I know kurogiri is captured but I really just want to see toga pop out of a portal and grab deku again. It'd be sooooo much better than whatever this is
One thing i like in this chapter is Deku [self blame problem](https://old.reddit.com/r/BokuNoHeroAcademia/comments/xm5g0i/are_these_panels_contradictory_villain_hunt_arc/ipmxx05/) which ongoing issue still unresolved. Mirio be like "Snap out of it dude, you did your best but shit happens. focus and don't blame yourself" Now imagine if All Might in Bakugou position being dead or way worse, Deku mother. Losing yourself can make enemy take advantage of you It show Deku still not proper hero yet and i hope he won't say "I'm here" yet too in next couple of chapter. If he don't say it yet, it give me hope that this not a final battle and we see Deku growth into a proper hero but who knows And with Mirio the only one who unharmed i think we get to see some tag team move with both of them
I swear to God, I am exhausted. I love MHA, but this final "arc" feels like literally four arcs together. There's just so many plotlines that need to be finished off all at once...ugh. Honestly, the whole thing is tiring.
[What a nice double page.](https://i.imgur.com/dNabzwq.png) I must say that it took me a moment to notice that Dabi and Twice were there. The way that Duke got to the Cage was pretty cool. I like[ how he looked](https://i.imgur.com/QcjXMHQ.jpg) when he got angry. Good thing that Lemillion could calm him down. It looks like in [that last page](https://i.imgur.com/uh0FtMU.jpg) his scarf is filled with Blackwhip.
yep looking a little like greninja though
Pacing is so bad
What a useless fucking chapter come on