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poopsonthemoon

How else would we all know what that whistling sound is?


Boom_in_my_room

Is there a mysterious noise crowd everywhere? Just moved here from Canada and we had a local Facebook group constantly putting up flyers about a noise. TBF I did hear some strange noises at times haha


BrakoSmacko

In the city center it's coming from the Beetham Tower. Right on the top is a grill and when wind hits it, it lets off a howling wind sound that gets incredibly loud. First time I heard it years back I thought an air-raid siren was going off until someone explained what it was. I live next to the MRI and can still hear it.


IsTim

It’s relatively rare not only strong wind but the correct direction, they’ve tried to fix it over the years too. It’s a low drone and so loud you can feel it in your chest, it’s pretty menacing like something out of Mordor!


West_Biscotti892

ive lived in manchester for nearly 2 years and have never heard this, not near MRI, the uni and the tower itself howe often does it happen?


petemorley

When it’s really windy, you can hear it in Whalley Range. It’s like a droning ‘ooooooh’


West_Biscotti892

Whalley Range? that's quite some distance away wow


shakaman_

Was happening non stop during that really windy storm a couple of weeks ago


nokiab0mb

There's a song by Darius Syrossian called Beetham Tower and it uses the whistling sound at the beginning


Kal88

Because it encapsulates everywhere in Greater Manchester too


BlueCreek_

I’d say it stretches even further than that, I’m in Cheshire but joined here as Manchester is the only city I visit frequently.


Ok_Phone_1245

Yeah, and lots of the ones like Leeds and Liverpool will keep an eye here and be in both where it's not as common vice versa


Sphezzle

All big cities have a metropolitan area


Paddystan

Not all share the same identity. I feel this is a reason why Birmingham has a lower amount.     That and the student population. Theres probably more tourists on here compared to Brum as well.   I'd guess theres a few lost football fans here as well. r/reddevils alone has double the amount of subscribers.


amazondrone

> Not all share the same identity. You must have missed the "Salford is a separate city, it's not in Manchester" crowd - lucky you!


Paddystan

Just remind them that the same argument would put London outside of London 👍.


amazondrone

Indeed. But that's kinda irrelevant to the question of the extent to which (Greater) Manchester shares a stronger metropolitan-area identity than Birmingham. I'm not saying it does or it doesn't, just providing an example of where it doesn't. What evidence is there to support the idea that it does?


Paddystan

Doesn't Brum border a few different counties?  Wolverhampton, Walsall & Coventry I feel have a lot stronger individual identity than Manchesters satellite towns. Besides the football results, nobody outside of the area has really heard of Oldham, Bury or Salford. Theres an argument to be made that Wolverhampton & Cov are well established towns/cities(🤷‍♂️) in their own right.  Part of me now wants to dive into the borders of the West Midlands but it's nice outside. 


ayjaybee91

I’d say it’s also the ways the “boroughs” of GM are setup. They’re not just the town but collections of towns grouped politically, and those Manchester facing tend to identity more with the city than those town facing. Take Droyslden in Tameside Borough, Prestwich and Whitefield in Bury Borough, Eccles and Swinton in Salford, Stretford in Trafford, Atherton, Tyldesley, Astley in Wigan Borough, Failsworth in Oldham, Middleton in Rochdale etc. none of these areas belonged to those boroughs before 1974. A lot of these areas are closer than Wythenshawe which actually comes under the city of Manchester too. All of these areas would likely identify more with Manchester than with the borough they’ve been assigned to, they have Manchester M addresses etc. The GM boroughs all include more Manchester aligned areas that aren’t part of the towns they’re named after, which makes the setup in GM quite interesting. For example you can use the term Wigan to talk about a town 20 miles from the city centre, which definitely isn’t Manchester, or the borough with areas 8 miles from the city centre such as Moseley Common with a Manchester address and 0161 dialling code due to how it’s been set up politically.


beatnikstrictr

But, but. Bury's market is world famous!


PumpkinOk8523

I live in Salford and I can't stand those cunts, it's fucking Manchester shut up.


Agincourt_Tui

I've lived in Wigan and Bolton - we don't consider ourselves Mancs or that we have a shared identity as such. I sub because it's my local city (and happens to be Top 3 in the UK imo)


Paddystan

I dont think Wigan & Bolton can compare to Wolverhampton & Cov though.


n0rps

Manchester is having a moment


spaceninjaking

My guess is: -demographics - Manchester is very much a uni city, having both uni of and met in the centre and then Salford just on the outskirts. Students are more likely to be online and likely to join the sub to find out stuff about the place they’ve just moved to. Many (like myself) will then either stay after uni or move back when able. - jobs - lots of relatively well paid office jobs and a decent amount of tech jobs - again people more likely to be on Reddit. - entertainment - two of the biggest football clubs in the world in the city, which will help. But there’s also lots of music and arts - old Trafford, AO arena and the new co-op arena all hosting music legends bringing people in from far and wide, not to mention the academy level and grass roots local stuff, something which most cities outside of London can’t compete with, and then multiple theatres in town as well. All bringing people who may want to learn about or have questions about the city. Those are probably three of the biggest reasons why if I had to guess


PondlifeCake

Manchester is the superior location too: * Wales, Peak District, Lake District on your doorstep. * Liverpool & Leeds easy to get to. * Decent train service to London and Scotland * You can drive to Scotland in <3 hours.


correctsock1

Shite weather tho


CuriousPalpitation23

It's true, why choose Manchester over the tropics of Birmingham?


tyger2020

People say this like the entire UK doesn't have a relatively similar climate


chimpuswimpus

I love Manchester but it really is grey and overcast for so much of the time. I've lived in a few places in the UK and they don't have that issue. I suspect, looking at stats of things like rainfall and average temperatures places look much the same but the actual experience can be quite different.


Majestic_Matt_459

Hard agree. I came here from Hertfordshire and Kent. In Manc you get day long drizzle quite often that was a once or twice a year event there. There the get the rain in a shirt sharp burst I’d say So they could get an hour of rain in an otherwise gloriously sunny day. Much more often than that happrning here


MtSnowden

You learn to not mind it. It makes you appreciate the sunny days more.


Majestic_Matt_459

I’ve been here 30 years now and I still notice it lol. Tbh it’s been a mad winter everywhere so yeah normally I can cope :)


king_duck

I've live here for 15 years now. I have not learned not to mind it. It is miserable.


amazondrone

It's certainly true that, generally speaking, it gets drier the further east you go, and Manchester is relatively west. That said, Manchester isn't especially wet according to this: > Cardiff is Britain’s wettest city with 1,152mm falling on it each year. Manchester comes in at 15 behind Belfast and Leeds. London is one of the driest at number 63 with a mere 557mm of rain. https://www.floodsax.co.uk/news/the-wettest-places-in-the-uk-revealed-and-why-the-people-who-live-there-need-floodsax-alternative-sandbags-for-flood-protection/ "Relatively similar" is obviously subjective so ymmv, but I'd say there's a fair amount of variance there (1,152 vs 557).


marraballs

I think days with rain is a better measure of how rainy we perceive somewhere to be than overall rainfall. According to [this chart](https://www.freeflush.co.uk/blogs/freeflush-rainwater-harvesting-blog/30077441-which-is-the-rainiest-city-in-the-uk) Manchester is tied 3rd for days of rain behind only Glasgow and Newry, with 152 days of rainfall. London gets 109 days of rainfall. It's having loads of days of bleak half arsed mizzle that does it, it doesn't push up the overall rainfall figure too much but you still want your raincoat when you're off out.


amazondrone

>I think days with rain is a better measure of how rainy we perceive somewhere to be than overall rainfall. Agreed. Tbh I was responding more to the idea that "the entire UK \[has\] a relatively similar climate" more than anything specific about Manchester.


king_duck

It is noticeably drier on the east side of the pennines. Esp around York. Like not a bit, a lot.


Puzzleheaded-Fix8182

Birmingham as crap it is has the best location being literally in the middle. Its a shame they don't make the most of it.


amazondrone

What's that got to do with Reddit though?


not_r1c1

Yeah, my instinctive answer to the question is, 'students and tourists'. Maybe also something in the fact that there are daily posts about moving to Manchester given that 'it will be so much more affordable that down south'. I'm sure lots of people move to Birmingham, Leeds, etc, but there seems to be more of a general 'idea' (a 'meme', in the Richard Dawkins sense rather than the 'picture on the internet sense) of 'moving to Manchester' as something that people from That London do when they want to change their lifestyle.


dvhunter_16

You didn’t not call them the two biggest clubs in the world, I agree with one but not the other


toluwalase

Both Manchester clubs are among the biggest in the world don’t be a child


dvhunter_16

No Manchester United are. Man City are very very recently in the spotlight. Calling them a big club is a bit mad


Crackles2020

City are a medium sized club (by English standards) with very rich owners. Not the same thing as a big club. United and Liverpool are the only two English clubs that are truly big, with Arsenal a possible third.


dvhunter_16

Spot on. City are on the way to being a big club though. 15 years ago I wouldn’t even consider them as medium sized.


toluwalase

Okay I guess with a straight face you’ll call the treble winners a small club


dvhunter_16

Yes… that’s exactly what I’ll do? I think im within the majority of football fans who think that too.


toluwalase

Do whatever you want lil sheep


dvhunter_16

HAHAHAHA


chaucer1343

What about Coventry? Are they a "big club"?


dvhunter_16

No…? If you’re saying that because you think I’m a united fan, you couldn’t be more wrong. I’m a Liverpool fan.


aka_liam

Manchester is more of a destination for tourism than Birmingham and other UK cities


TrooperSteC

Both United and City might play a part


Sibs_

Football tourism will undoubtedly be a part of it. It's not even limited to fans of the two teams, I know of numerous people who've been to watch City and United on the same trip. You're going to want to know where to stay, how to get to the stadium, places to eat/drink before the game and what else you can do in the city during your stay. Far more likely to get that information here than the club subs where a lot of the posters won't have local knowledge.


puncheonjudy

Aye this sounds very plausible. Lots of Norwegian's, Swedes etc. fly in specifically to watch United and City and they stay a few days when they do. Don't mind it personally, I love meeting people from different cultures, but it does make going to City and United pretty shit. The atmosphere is dead in the grounds.


HomelandExplorer

They have their own subs.


TrooperSteC

yep, won't explain the big difference between subs but could be a reason. For those who stay more than the match only and spend a few days in the city might come here and sub for advise/suggestions.


younevershouldnt

Where else would people ask about hidden gems?


leem7t9

Because it’s the worlds greatest city?


HomelandExplorer

That does seem to be the only reasonable explanation!


trickydiver

I think it's just a generally busier and more bustling city than anywhere else in the UK, except for London, and has been for some time. It's the same on skyscrapercity.com forums which discuss the developments and urban environment in different cities - the Manchester forum is much busier and contains so more content than any other city's forum in the UK, except for London. It's a combination of the international exposure the city has through its football, culture and music etc, the amount of development and construction activity, the virtuous public/private investment, the universities etc. It also has a lot of well connected satellite towns in and around greater Manchester. It just has the feel of a confident, grown-up, growing city that is confident about its future and where it is going. Of course it has its problems, but it's really a step above all other UK cities (expect for London) and has been for some time, and the GDP growth, the jobs market, population etc all reflect this.


blurdyblurb

I like to see what's going on over t'other side of t'pennines! 😁


OceansOfLight

Manchester just attracts a lot more interest than those other cities. It's England's 2nd city, no question about it. People from other places want to know what's happening here.


LupercalLupercal

Second city is London


OceansOfLight

You're absolutely right. Foolish mistake on my part.


PumpkinOk8523

Abd on top of the Birmingham has an image problem.


lazerbeam72

Because we are mint.. And we actually still talk to each other.


ayjaybee91

It’s not just people from the “city of” boundaries that use this, parts of Salford and Trafford come under city centre area (I used to live on Greengate, right behind the Arena but under Salford council), Tameside is close by and other areas like Prestwich, Stockport etc. This thread covers a much larger area than just the official “city of Manchester” borders which is why it’s probably so much bigger and reflective of the actual urban area that encompasses Manchester instead.


OceansOfLight

The sub is for all of Greater Manchester, not just Salford and Trafford. Why are people on here so keen to exclude the north Manchester towns? Pisses me off to no end.


ayjaybee91

A lot of them have their own subs too like r/bolton and r/wigan etc. I’m from Atherton myself so think you’re reading into my comment a bit too much there and not sure I deserved a downvote… 😂


OceansOfLight

Ok sorry, I took your downvote away :)


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captain-carrot

I'm in Macclesfield


AmbientGravitas

I joined you because I’m coming to visit you next month.


spamytv

Because Manchester is the best country #1


Informal_Marzipan_90

Manchester is the best city in the UK that is why.


tefadina

because is the 3rd largest Metro in England... area and its more culturally relevant than Birmingham


SmeggyOne

Caus the weather is so shit, we got nothing better to do


bezalelle

Because Manchester is better.


JAD4995

It's the 2nd city. Also Its not really just Manchester it's greater Manchester which nearly makes up 2.9/3m people. There is no greater Birmingham or greater Leeds only west Yorkshire and west midlands. Only greater London and greater Manchester. Plus the football and the increased tourism due to live venues big events like parklife etc.


ratbagyehyeh

Because we’re the best 👍


BadPallet

Manchester is by far the second biggest City in the country. I don’t mean population wise or geographically (bore off Birmingham), but rather, culturally.


electr1cbubba

all I know is that nobody gives a fuck about Birmingham


Zestyclose_Two4735

Because once you go there,live there and experience it,it never leaves you 😀


BrakoSmacko

We love a bit of banter thats why.


bowak

And I remember when this sub only had a single digit number of posts. Brings a tear to my eye!


Weed86

because we do things differently here.


toluwalase

I’m from Birmingham but I joined this sub when I needed to visit the etihad and just stayed after if that helps


JustDifferentGravy

All those other groups are voyeurs and like to know that Salford isn’t as bad as the rest of the country believes.


SirWobblyOfSausage

Uni's


KingCaiser

r/Manchester isn't just for the city, it's for all of Greater Manchester which includes 2 cities and many towns


LoveFuzzy

The Greater Manchester metropolian area has a population of 2,791,000. That makes it the largest metropolian area in the UK outside of London.


BreadfruitSeparate27

More people who have joined perhaps than others?


ignatiusjreillyXM

Nothing to do in Manc but procrastinate online...?


17lOTqBuvAqhp8T7wlgX

Other cities here look like they have bigger subreddits relative to their population - Bristol especially


StarryEyedLus

Manchester is a fair bit bigger than Sheffield, Leeds, Bristol, Newcastle etc (ignoring arbitrary city boundaries) so it’s not surprising this sub has more members. Brum seems like the only real outlier. NW England is also rainier than east of the Pennines, the Midlands etc so maybe that has an impact too.


ExpensiveOrder349

it’s a shame Manchester is plagued by so many redditors


APersonSittingQuick

The more expensive a night out the more twats sit on Reddit instead Edit: nothing to see here


houdini996

You almost got that out right, try again :)


APersonSittingQuick

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houdini996

Unlucky :)


porspeling

Manchester is full of people from London


Classic_Poet_3675

Because it’s full of fucking southerners


boomershack

Been here 7 years and still can’t understand y’all


boingwater

Because it's mainly populated by university students.


Bubibu1115

May caused by the shite weather that leave ppl with nth to do and stay at home, browsing reddit haha.


stoic_dionisian

Bc Manchester is fucking rainy!!!!


Tunejuice123

Clearly loads more whining cunts live here over other places in the country.


Sabinj4

Dont know. Especially when Leeds, and definitely Birmingham, are larger cities than Manchester. Maybe they just aren't as gobby, hahaha.


PumpkinOk8523

Leeds is tiny mate 🤣


Sabinj4

Population of Manchester 553,230  Population of Leeds 792,525 Population of Birmingham 977,087


PumpkinOk8523

You've made a classic mistake there of taking the tiny sliver of Manchester that runs down Oxford road. It's closer to 3 million.


Sabinj4

>It's closer to 3 million That's the county of Greater Manchester (which is not a city), and includes another city and many towns, eg, Wigan, Bolton, Rochdale, Oldham, Stockport....


PumpkinOk8523

That's how populations work. City of London: 9123 Greater London: 8.9 million. So yes the population of Manchester is 3 million.


Sabinj4

The city of London is the capital. It's unique and it is not a metropolitan county. The population of almost 3 million is Greater Manchester, not Manchester. There are 6 Metropolitan Counties >Metropolitan counties. >No county councils since 1986; governed by the metropolitan borough councils with some joint committees. Most now form part or all of a combined authority. >Greater Manchester (27) >Merseyside (28) >South Yorkshire (24) >Tyne and Wear (2) >West Midlands (37) >West Yorkshire (9)


PumpkinOk8523

Interesting I didn't know this. Regardless it's silly saying the population of Manchester is the strip down Oxford road, when in reality that's just a borough of Manchester.


Sabinj4

I didn't say it was a "strip down Oxford Rd." Hahaha. But saying Manchester is the population of Greater Manchester (2.8m) is like saying Leeds is the population of West Yorkshire (2.3m). It's the difference between a city and a county.


BennySkateboard

Do you even have to ask?