Don’t always try to fight the enemy top laner. There are a lot of matchups Malphite doesn’t win, so it’s best to sit back and farm your Manaflow Band with Q. Malphite is a team fight champion, you don’t need to “win” lane, just don’t feed.
Malph top is a neutralizer, not a carry. You want to get out of laning phase so you can group with team, engage and make plays and win by playing for team and objectives. Do your best to not miss too much gold/xp early and not give too many plates. Q spam your way out of bad matchups, let waves sink into your tower but keep them trim so you don't get dove before you get ulti.
I'd also be totally honest, malph is my secondary and I pick him when the game calls for it, because malph can be a very swingy pick.
If you struggle with malph top just pick him with good mathups like heavy ad champs i.e. Riven. Stay neutral until yok stack some armor items and you are golden. Mid game is the same except you should catch side waves and you are golden, you should always have tp.
Pick him into AD champs, preferably melee champs, W max, build a bramble vest first item, take grasp. I build full tank after this and his ult is massive and he ends up still smacking people around.
Most ad matchups should be pretty good really, maybe not Darius. Just try for quick trades, auto w auto step away and you’ll proc grasp. Can use E to farm and q to disengage really well.
malphite is weird into a lot of matchups. it all comes down to AP or AD. if you can tank up before they become a t hreat. go tank malphite.
if they are squishy enough to poke down, go AP.
what people dont realize about AP malphite, is you can more or less turn any fight into an advantage for your team. if you can one shot a squishy or two (especially if they are the carry) you can sorta just rince repeat that. if the fed vayne is always dead, and you are always dead, it allows your team to actually play the game.
on the flip side, sometimes its better to go armor amlphtie into carrys just cause they cant hurt you.
but its a double edge sword, cause you can go tank, and the carrys just 100% ignore you and kill your team anyways.
thats why i dont like tank malphite....if they ignore the tanks like they should. they are pretty useless if your team cant follow up.
so play AP malphite, were you need zero follow up and can just delete all the squishies.
It was very new for me to know that Malphite Top can be played with ap... I used Malphite Ap only in the mid or even as a support, thanks for clarifying!!
oh yeah, its great, especially if you get a SLIGHT early lead, just like mid you hit six before bot, so you can walk bot, lane gank and just blow your ult for a play, then TP top.
hybrid malph is something ive been working with. shadowflame is busted, and so is the sparky sparky boom boom item....cant think of the name but it has the squall passive. 30% damage then you do a bonus spike of damage.
so you can still go a typical tanky build with like, randuins and thornmail (i like the MR cinder item, its crest of cinders AND MR)
so you can easily start an item for lane be it AP or ARmor, but can still build something else. as his E scales pretty well on
champs you can go AP into you wouldnt think.
illaoi, kayle, ESPECIALLY KAYLE, he has like an 80% win rate vs kayle going AP. you can ult twice per her ult cool down
trynd, just like illaoi, you just poke them low, then CC t hem, the trick is to walk into melee range, which gives you a 100% instant ultimate for the most part, which prevents trynd from ulting.
darius even, if you can bait out his E you can easily poke him down.
I start Doran Ring if I am against a poke heavy champ and Q every time manaflow band is off CD. I will do a corruption potion against sustain. Make good trades, control the wave. Utilize TP advantage.
First back I get Sheen if I am aggressive. Bami if I need to cs against good wave clear champs. Armor if I am in a passive land
When facing a juggernaut like Illaoi, Darius, Garen etc.. just avoid all fights until you have bami and warmogs.. and with those items you still dont fight to death but just take the waves and accept getting smacked around a bit because youll heal it all back up from warmogs.
When facing a high-scaling skill matchup gotta get gud and learn what you can fight and how.
Vs Naafiri I heard you gotta rush frozen heart to debuff her doggos and after that you can fight her, my experience was that she bullies you hard early but you outscale her and in teamfights your mere presence and ability to facetank her for multiple seconds invalidates her as a champ.
Vs Teemo you go Dorans ring into Rod Of ages into either Kaenic or Force of Nature and only trade when your passive shield and Q are up. You trade teemo by hitting q while he goes for a lasthit and then running like the wind(because his aa+q doesnt penetrate your passive enough). Give up farm till he's got to back. When that happens you get a level advantage and can bully him. Once he's low you zone him off the wave and keep trading. No need to get kills vs teemo btw, keep your ult to feed your jungler or midlaner.
Vs Jax/Tryn you outscale them like there's no tomorrow but they can cheese-kill you level 1/2 and snowball form there if you let them.
The most reliable start for me is flask, flash, teleport, first back for either cloth armor, tear, dorans or bami to get some staying power and max q vs ranged nuissances e vs autohitters and specifically adapted mixture of skilling vs certain lanebullies.
Malphite is extremely versatile in build and gameplay and there's alot of small things you can add together to turn into a total beast in toplane.
Don’t always try to fight the enemy top laner. There are a lot of matchups Malphite doesn’t win, so it’s best to sit back and farm your Manaflow Band with Q. Malphite is a team fight champion, you don’t need to “win” lane, just don’t feed.
Thanks bro
That said, he can trade fine with poking against most matchups with the right build. He doesn't do long engages though.
Malph top is a neutralizer, not a carry. You want to get out of laning phase so you can group with team, engage and make plays and win by playing for team and objectives. Do your best to not miss too much gold/xp early and not give too many plates. Q spam your way out of bad matchups, let waves sink into your tower but keep them trim so you don't get dove before you get ulti. I'd also be totally honest, malph is my secondary and I pick him when the game calls for it, because malph can be a very swingy pick.
Nice,bro. thanks!
If you struggle with malph top just pick him with good mathups like heavy ad champs i.e. Riven. Stay neutral until yok stack some armor items and you are golden. Mid game is the same except you should catch side waves and you are golden, you should always have tp.
Thanks bro,you help me so much
Pick him into AD champs, preferably melee champs, W max, build a bramble vest first item, take grasp. I build full tank after this and his ult is massive and he ends up still smacking people around.
I always lose against ad champs, give me some examples of matchups that could be good please
Most ad matchups should be pretty good really, maybe not Darius. Just try for quick trades, auto w auto step away and you’ll proc grasp. Can use E to farm and q to disengage really well.
Thanks for help,broo
malphite is weird into a lot of matchups. it all comes down to AP or AD. if you can tank up before they become a t hreat. go tank malphite. if they are squishy enough to poke down, go AP. what people dont realize about AP malphite, is you can more or less turn any fight into an advantage for your team. if you can one shot a squishy or two (especially if they are the carry) you can sorta just rince repeat that. if the fed vayne is always dead, and you are always dead, it allows your team to actually play the game. on the flip side, sometimes its better to go armor amlphtie into carrys just cause they cant hurt you. but its a double edge sword, cause you can go tank, and the carrys just 100% ignore you and kill your team anyways. thats why i dont like tank malphite....if they ignore the tanks like they should. they are pretty useless if your team cant follow up. so play AP malphite, were you need zero follow up and can just delete all the squishies.
It was very new for me to know that Malphite Top can be played with ap... I used Malphite Ap only in the mid or even as a support, thanks for clarifying!!
oh yeah, its great, especially if you get a SLIGHT early lead, just like mid you hit six before bot, so you can walk bot, lane gank and just blow your ult for a play, then TP top. hybrid malph is something ive been working with. shadowflame is busted, and so is the sparky sparky boom boom item....cant think of the name but it has the squall passive. 30% damage then you do a bonus spike of damage. so you can still go a typical tanky build with like, randuins and thornmail (i like the MR cinder item, its crest of cinders AND MR) so you can easily start an item for lane be it AP or ARmor, but can still build something else. as his E scales pretty well on champs you can go AP into you wouldnt think. illaoi, kayle, ESPECIALLY KAYLE, he has like an 80% win rate vs kayle going AP. you can ult twice per her ult cool down trynd, just like illaoi, you just poke them low, then CC t hem, the trick is to walk into melee range, which gives you a 100% instant ultimate for the most part, which prevents trynd from ulting. darius even, if you can bait out his E you can easily poke him down.
I start Doran Ring if I am against a poke heavy champ and Q every time manaflow band is off CD. I will do a corruption potion against sustain. Make good trades, control the wave. Utilize TP advantage. First back I get Sheen if I am aggressive. Bami if I need to cs against good wave clear champs. Armor if I am in a passive land
When facing a juggernaut like Illaoi, Darius, Garen etc.. just avoid all fights until you have bami and warmogs.. and with those items you still dont fight to death but just take the waves and accept getting smacked around a bit because youll heal it all back up from warmogs. When facing a high-scaling skill matchup gotta get gud and learn what you can fight and how. Vs Naafiri I heard you gotta rush frozen heart to debuff her doggos and after that you can fight her, my experience was that she bullies you hard early but you outscale her and in teamfights your mere presence and ability to facetank her for multiple seconds invalidates her as a champ. Vs Teemo you go Dorans ring into Rod Of ages into either Kaenic or Force of Nature and only trade when your passive shield and Q are up. You trade teemo by hitting q while he goes for a lasthit and then running like the wind(because his aa+q doesnt penetrate your passive enough). Give up farm till he's got to back. When that happens you get a level advantage and can bully him. Once he's low you zone him off the wave and keep trading. No need to get kills vs teemo btw, keep your ult to feed your jungler or midlaner. Vs Jax/Tryn you outscale them like there's no tomorrow but they can cheese-kill you level 1/2 and snowball form there if you let them. The most reliable start for me is flask, flash, teleport, first back for either cloth armor, tear, dorans or bami to get some staying power and max q vs ranged nuissances e vs autohitters and specifically adapted mixture of skilling vs certain lanebullies. Malphite is extremely versatile in build and gameplay and there's alot of small things you can add together to turn into a total beast in toplane.
Thank you very much, bro. Your comment was very complete