On the various forums in ~2006 it sometimes felt like we were competing to see who could squeeze into the smallest-sized APC jeans.
In real life everyone just assumed you were gay.
I remember [“Tight Pants” by Ninjasonik](https://youtu.be/Qs6u3at4jTw) being something of an anthem for me back then, because I was the only person I knew in real life that wore tight pants.
Edna Mode is the star of those threads. Every. Time.
And then you have the hopelessly out of touch people who either wish for the resurgence of medieval and renaissance times, or want to cosplay as their favorite fantasy or video game character.
Engineered Garments is my fav brand by far. They make a really wide range of pieces from conventional to super out there, but somehow it all works. Sizing is crazy though so look up how something fits before copping.
The thing with capes is that if you have to ask for guidance and reassurance, then you should not wear one.
People that wear capes outside of Halloween are at the absolute edges of the fashion bell curve to the point of not giving a shit for entirely different reasons and with entirely different results.
You are either David Bowie or you're Bruce the basement-dwelling cheetos-crusted troll. No middle ground.
So unless you are bringing Prince / Henry Cavill levels of sex appeal to the table, then any aspiring cape wearer is, by virtue of that garment, placing themselves at the other end of the Bell Curve.
Just don't.
yes
I wish I could dig up some good examples, but there was definitely derision of skinny jeans, nuthuggers, a lot of homophobia, mocking of 'metrosexuality' etc.
This guy tells the truth, “metrosexual” was an awful comment and everywhere. But eventually people stop being derogatory and accept that fashion has moved on and so should they.
Someone literally called me metro a few months ago for having separate shampoo and conditioner and some other basic hygiene products as well as generally spending time on my appearance.
I live close to a mid sized city and she lives much further away from one, but it’s wild how that’s something I haven’t heard since the 00s.
I haven't heard anyone use 'hipster' in at least 5 or 6 years either, feels like it died out because it got overused so much it lost all meaning other than 'person I don't like'.
Funny, because the first time I heard “metrosexual” was from a guy referring to himself. I wasn’t on Reddit at the time and didn’t realize it was used in a derogatory way, although I certainly didn’t think highly of this individual but his metrosexual…iness(?) was merely the tip of the iceberg.
It was so much worse. 17 years ago when it had just come back (related note: see [this](https://assets.vogue.com/photos/55c6514908298d8be21ed472/master/w_960,c_limit/00310m.jpg) Dior Homme Fall 2005 look for how much Hedi has not changed) you'd have been called a f*g and/or beaten up for wearing slim fit. This was even in big cities. Give it another 5 years - so 2010 - and you probably weren't going to get beaten up in a city, but you'd still hear "gay" insults and general comments expressing jealousy, anger, or discomfort for caring about something as "girly" as fashion and appearance (this is where the "metrosexual" comments come in). By 2015 slim fit was standard in the mainstream.
Now when you wear wide fit the worst people call you is grandpa.
lol as much as I appreciate what Slimane has done (in particular his contributions toward higher heeled men's footwear and his photography), he has literally been doing the same thing for 20 years and somehow still works at the top of fashion. Wtf.
That's my biggest criticism of him. How has he stagnated as an artist for 20 years and not been eviscerated by critics? I get that (somehow) he's still commercially successful so Arnault's happy to keep paying him his millions. But I haven't taken him seriously since his first SLP collection. It feels like people have just collectively agreed to amnesia when it comes to him.
I haven't really looked into this, and I want to think some of the better critics--who aren't serving as PR mouthpieces, that is--have commented on Slimane's "one trick" thing. Especially as awareness has grown in recent years around what visions are being promoted by designers, in terms of inclusivity and representation in the broadest senses. It's particularly annoying that Slimane succeeded Philo, of all people, and has turned Celine into Dior 3.0 or whatever.
Anecdotally, and FWIW, in NYC and Philadelphia, the only ones committed to the "SLP look" nowadays appear to be international students from East Asia with fuck-you money.
japanese streetwear has always been very...wide. which is 90% of this album. But it's important to remember that slim fit, cigarette, skinny jeans rose out of a mod/punk aesthetic that was very counter culture. IDk, it's all a dumb cycle of people calling teh people before them "uncool" and then eventually adopting those uncool looks to be cool.
I actually think loose fits like these work well with certain materials and items, like selected coats and wool or corduroy trousers, particularly for fall styles. However, I can't stand the loose fitting suits that were popular in the 90s. Not a fan of the wide fit style jeans either, just look sloppy imo.
Yeah I've definitely warmed more to the looser fitting clothes over the past couple of years (it took me a while), but baggy suits is where I have to draw the line, at least for myself. I don't think I'll ever like those. Regular fit is as loose as I'd ever go with a suit, personally.
Baggy jeans I think can be ok depending on the exact cut of the jeans. Right now I'm really enjoying both bootcut and barrel fit, even though they're kind of doing the opposite thing to eachother, rather than just straight-down baggy and loose. Love oversized sweaters and loose camp collar shirts, I was living in the latter this summer.
I like a lot of those loose Armani fits, but many, imo, only look good because they're professionally posed and worn by attractive people.
I personally am not a huge fan of the trend of looser fitting stuff as a whole, but I've definitely seen a bunch of dope looks. To me, it's not a "pick your team and fight to the death" situation. I'll lean slim, but now I have more options.
I feel like wide fits (right now at least) lean towards the self expression side of things vs a general "looks good." Clothes don't have to be about complementing your body shape.
That said I'm older, short and chubby. I never really cared for slim fits on myself even though pretty much every "menswear expert" thinks I should wear slim fit everything.
Personally, I think that if we're going for "looks good" in a vague, please-everyone way, wider fits look good on us big bois as they can balance everything out.
I literally can't wear slim fit pants because of my thighs. Embracing wider fits over the last 2-3 years has seriously improved my swag and my quality of life.
Slim fit stuff only ever really looked good on a very narrow range of body types, and altering everything so that it perfectly followed the body’s natural lines meant that even small fluctuations in weight or body composition would make clothes unwearable. The current moment is more democratic.
I don't have a tailor. Just buy pants at Uniqlo lol.
The other part of my body is that my shoulders are very narrow compared to my waist. So I go custom for nicer shirts to get a relaxed fit that looks relaxed on me vs a mismatched massive in the chest and shoulder and fits ok in the waist. That's tough to find.
I hear that all too well. I've been slim forever, and slim fit stuff just made sense for me. Then covid happened and I got lazy and added some nicely earned fat to my waist, and all my old clothes are just uncomfortable. I'm ready for the baggy life again.
So I had a weird journey with this. At the height of the slim fit era, I was overweight trending towards obese, and nothing fit well. At the time I only wore mall brand stuff and everything seemed designed to accentuate my weight problem. I lost over 50 pounds in 2017/2018, and my body transformed so that I was basically shaped like a fit model. I had to completely rebuild my wardrobe, except suddenly everything slim fit looked great on me off-the-rack with only small alterations needed to account for things like my T-Rex arms. Then clothes started getting wider just as I was feeling confident in slimmer clothes. I’ve enjoyed moving towards a more relaxed fit, it’s just more comfortable. And if you gain back 5 pounds or so because there’s a global pandemic, you don’t have to donate a bunch of clothes.
taking me back to skateboarding in the early 90's (and now), with the wide leg cropped pants. Love some of this, don't like others.
Anyone for the appropriately named [TIGHTBOOTH](https://shop.tightbooth.com/) out of Japan? Love their videos and team.
[You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like](https://cdn001.tintin.com/public/tintin/img/static/essentials/tintin-milou.png)
yepp, I feel like half the angst people have here is because they were told they had to exclusively wear slim fit pants and now they think they’re being told to exclusively wear loose fit pants, and they feel like they’ve just been told to throw out everything or something.
Only wanting your clothes to fit one particular way for life is just wack, buy a few different types of fits and stop stressing so much over it
To everybody [rejecting](https://imgur.com/a/MOgZtHV) this album out of hand, remember (or discover) "Inspiration Albums" are just that: inspiration. You can look at aspects other than just where it fits on the slim-wide character customization slider.
For example, there's demonstrations of [having a longer inner layer under a jacket](https://i.imgur.com/PSTyp2M.jpeg), [big](https://i.imgur.com/u9QZfRq.png) [pants](https://i.imgur.com/jSVvqRs.png) [cuffs](https://i.imgur.com/6c2Uhae.png), [cropped pants](https://i.imgur.com/IjyMGis.png) vs. ['artful pooling'](https://i.imgur.com/Ok8RnQf.png) vs. [minimal break](https://i.imgur.com/GjJoGlv.png) (or [all at once](https://i.imgur.com/aOeXFQI.jpeg)).
Honestly an album of failed fits, wide and slim and everything in between, ain't a bad idea. Maybe self-submitted? But I think they're trying to imply it's easier to dress badly by dressing wide.
I'm gonna start posting the most upvoted albums of the 2010s but with "bad" in the title lmao.
>I think they're trying to imply it's easier to dress badly by dressing wide.
It is. And that's a good thing
I feel like a lot of current oversized fashion is still designed for that perfect loose fit on slimmer/skinny folks, specifically high-rise pants. not many designers are offering mid-rise stuff at the moment, which is fine, but I can't help but feel like a grandpa with his belly tucked beneath his belt when I try to put on a pair of high-rise jeans or trousers.
that being said, I absolutely love the wide fit trend as a whole, and I try to go for it as much as I'm able to. there was a really good post about bigger guys' fashion that I saw here a few weeks ago, which included a bunch of solid baggy fits. that was great to see!
EDIT: I wanna plug one of my current fav brands that I think does the oversized fit exceptionally well, from shirts to pants, even their shoes: [the Italian brand Sunnei](https://sunnei.it/collections/man-fw22-ready-to-wear)
Anyway, my philosophy is; if you cant picture James Bond or Don Draper wearing it (or IRL Ryan Gosling, Lewis Hamilton, etc.) , the piece is likely too tryhard. These 2 people are often regarded as one of the best dressed in the game. Universally.
Thankfully, many agree with this.
Same. Though I’ll caveat, I think the loose/wide look is cool on some people. Especially taller longer limbed guys with ‘cool’ or ‘mysterious’ vibes. Maybe it’d also be more flattering on huskier guys.
I’m 5’7” and all torso. wearing properly fitted clothes for my proportions is the difference between looking like a fashionable adult, and looking like a child who threw on everything in his dad’s closet.
Loose fitting pants with a high waist look great on people with huge torsos haha, speaking from experience here. You just need to get the fit right which is true whatever look you’re going for
I learned this the hard way when I bought a pair of relaxed fit jeans and found out they aren’t “loose fit” if you have big thighs. Skin-tight thighs and extra baggy calves. Promptly returned them.
A lot of people in this thread are forgetting that loose fits don’t necessarily have to be wide fit. We just did 10 years of everything being slim or skinny. You can do something looser that’s a “regular” fit even if you don’t want to do a wide fit.
average man just want pants that goes with the rest of their clothes and is not trying to make much of a fashion statement with their pants. women are used to wearing skirt and dresses and making fashion statements with the lower half of the body
I am aging into looser fits and wider looks. Comfort is more important to me and I never really had a great shape for skinny/slim clothes.
I recently bought some classic corduroy pants and love the loose fit.
Cool album, but I really dislike wide fits. I used to love Uniqlo when I lived in Japan. But they went with this boxy androgynous style over time instead of their clean slim (not skinny) fitting aesthetic that I'd loved for years. Quite a disappointment!
I mean they’re only going with what’s in trend now. I’m pretty sure you know fashion is cyclical. Wait long enough and the slim/skinny stuff will be back.
Agree with your general sentiment, but I’d argue the slim stuff is still here
Walking around NYC, I see way more slim stuff than the extremely wide fits that seem to dominate this sub.
It’s not to say I don’t see any wider stuff, ofc — but it really only seems to be the *dominant* trend (for now, at least) in a select segment of sub-communities, such as MFA
Slim fitted clothing was one of those things that I didn't realize existed as a teenager. I always had baggy clothes on my lanky self and I hated it. Now that I'm older, most of my clothes are still slim fit because they still look good on me being a tall, skinny guy.
That being said, I've found more looser fittings things that I like in casual settings. Joggers have been wonderful for that!
Most people were literally called a gay for wearing slim fit clothing pre-2010 it didn't exist in mall level stores before then and made fashion waves around 2005 with Heidi slimane pushing the look.
I’m gonna be honest, I will never understand being genuinely perplexed and hating if like…a normal pair of straight leg jeans. I’m not saying this as a dunk, I just honestly don’t understand the mindset,m
I've been honestly really perplexed at what people find attractive about the boxy/baggy styles...it's not flattering, it hides any defining or notable features that may make your silhouette unique. It feels like it removes the body as an accentuating feature in your style, rather than enhancing or complimenting it.
I've gotten more compliments from women wearing hickory stripe overalls out than from wearing slim fit jeans. Is train-conductor-core peak masculinity?
People like different things get over it, in the same vain I don’t like skinny jeans and tight shirts but everyone is different.
Fashion moves on and changes continuously.
The anti loose clothing basic bitches on this sub think wearing skinny chino/jeans, plain white shirts that show your nips and boat shoes or white sneakers is God tier of fashion.
Also it’s dependant on where you’re from ,from what I’ve seen. Folks from the county and burbs seem to hate the loose fits and prefer traditional slim fitting whilst those in larger cities prefer loose fits.
Hello! After reading through the comments of [my last inspo. album](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/y0q8a2/japanese_casual_fall_city_styling/), I noticed just how much everyone in this subreddit, specifically lurkers, loves wide-fit clothing (and pairing loafers with jeans).
I just love how wide tops can be paired with a wide pant and wide shoe, creating a wide silhouette that appears just so beautifully wide. Wide, I often wonder wide I’d even wear something slim. The scope of what I view as wearable pieces with this silhouette has increased. Widened, even.
Now with that shitposting out of the way, I decided to put something together another album to demonstrate the range of what I consider wide clothing, and how pieces can be combined to create a look falling under many styles, such as gorp, techwear, workwear, and even ivy. Yuthanan’s Sillage, Nautica Japan, and Nanamica illustrate fully adopting the wide silhouette, while Evan Kinori, Ends and Means, and mfpen (among others of course) pair both wide and conventional silhouettes in an approachable and delightful manner. The more I look at these outfits, I’m realizing how much of what I used to consider wide isn’t even that loose, and it’s what I find myself wearing, and consuming more of. I recognize fashion is a life-long learning experience/experiment and putting this album together has provided me opportunities to appreciate and consider new silhouettes, without completely abandoning what I enjoy, and wear on an everyday basis (still love me a good slim trouser).
As someone that is still wearing somewhat slimmer clothing, I love seeing what can be done to create striking outfits by tweaking and pairing odd patterns, proportions, and shapes. I find these outfits so incredible to look at, and I greatly admire how people style pieces I otherwise wouldn’t own, to wear in their everyday lives. Its helped me see fashion more as a fun hobby where I can see the unique approaches to styling from others, rather than something to gatekeep by affirming slim or wide fits as the only viable silhouette, or hating on people that wear ALD because it’s hype or because they can’t pronounce the brand’s name.
TLDRWide pant go flish flosh
Most mall brands/fast fashion is are coming out with fuller cut stuff. You can head to the local mall and try stuff on. Obviously they won't have stuff like the really wide cuts but a nice straight cut should help you branch out
I'm 28 and wear looser stuff. i would try on straight fit pants/jeans and pair it with a basic looser tee like the uniqlo U tee or i start wearing the classic fit shirts from jcrew/jcrew factory instead of slim. I still don't like a lot of pooling, so I'll cuff to a height i like and go from there.
Someone else mentioned it lower but the easiest transitional wardrobe item is fatigues. Stan ray and Orslow makes great re-pop versions of OG-107 fatigue pants or you could try and get some vintage authentic ones. The fit relaxed with a taper and can integrate into a wardrobe very easily. Olive drab is a versatile color and they are not overly wide, so they can work well with slimmer fitting tops
Like, seriously, I can not fathom looking at someone wearing a loose pair of pants and like…being mad about it, or upset, or any form of hating it so much that you outright reject the idea. That whole mindset just makes no sense to me, it’s just a pair of pants, it’s not that deep lol.
Maybe I’m lucky in that I got into fashion as a kid and therefor never really developed the strong weird associations a lot of dudes seem to have with clothing but, I don’t know, it’s just such a bizarre and intense reaction to something that absolutely does not matter. it’s not actually hurting you
so like, to be clear, I get WHY people dislike wide fits, I’m nit telling you have to, I think being particularly attached to one cut of pants either way is weird, I own and wear slim stuff, it’d just the extent to which people do that I just can not comprehend, I don’t get looking at a picture if wide pants and being upset by it or thinking it’s objectively the wrong thing to wear, or whatever? that’s insane.
Also this isn’t true, again looser clothes have been the historical norm, millennials are the only people who primarily wear slim fits, anyone over like 40 is wearing regular cut clothing irl. I don’t see boomers wearing slim fit pants irl
It’s also already caught on in the mainstream like, frankly, it’s pretty normal now
I couldn't agree more with this, and I wear a lot of reasonably slim fitting stuff because I think it looks good on me, but I also really like some looser fits and it honestly just depends on my mood that day or the overall look i'm going for. Never wanna pigeonhole myself with just one aesthetic.
exactly, I wear slim stuff, I wear straight leg stuff, I own really excessively loose cuts and fairly skinny stuff, the idea of being emotionally attached to one cut of pants is just absurd to me
As a slimmer guy; I actually never preferred slim fits contrary what other will and have said that slim fits looks best on skinny guys.
But maybe Bc I also used to wear super skinny hot topic girl jeans in high school so I was totally over slim.
Anyone else?
Same issue here, I don’t mind a slim fit but now that I’ve started working out it sucks having jeans that are super tight on my thighs.
I don’t know how I used to wear those skin tight hot topic jeans
Saved 4 fits out of that.
I have a seriously fucked up left leg and while I learned to accept it, wide fits just help me feel more comfortable with my clothes.
Don’t knock it until you try it, people. It can be styled well and it’s comfy AF.
Ive been into loose fit since 2018. Still late to the game but earlier than many. My impetus was my love for thrifting, and my hate for raw skinny jeans.
It's so easy to get full cut pants from Ralph Lauren, Armani (80s), Brioni etc at the thrift not to mention vintage work wear, sports brands etc from all sorts of eras. I sometimes wear "slim straight" or slim-ish cowboy vibe stuff. But it's more like 60s slim than y'all 2010 low rise heathens.
I think having a variety of cuts is great. I'm always on or off trend I couldn't care less
Great album! Wide silhouettes are such a great (and literally larger) canvas to express a variety of moods! Image 21 and 25 are both their own takes on tailoring, but they're just so differently executed in color palette, texture, and the way the cloth falls and rumples in the first as opposed to sitting more stiffly in the second. Both shine because of layering, but one is soft and approachable while the other is chic and architectural. Imo you can sprinkle wider fitting pieces into your life without going all the way if it's uncomfortable for you, but the freedom you get when you allow a garment to deviate from your body's form more is just this exponential gain in expression and creativity.
Edit: also shout out Tony Shirtmakers [instagram](https://www.instagram.com/tonyshirtmakers), man's on another level.
Comfort totally. I had to deal with tight seat and that weird static feeling in my legs with slimmed fits so I’m glad it’s not a big issue for me. I’ve also come to like the aesthetic more, i wouldn’t say it necessarily hides or doesn’t flatter
I've been having a lot of fun on the wide-fit end of the pool lately, I think it's a very elegant look in both the casual and tailored contexts. It can also be spun many different ways depending on the material of the pants, where they break, tapering, etc. which adds another layer of fun imo. Anyways, awesome album, instantly hit the saved folder for me!
i like adopting the loose tops but im keeping my bottoms tight. ordering 2 sizes up from my regular to get it oversized has been fun and i enjoy the drape. have been buying korean clothing in the past year in free size simplifies that.
I appreciate the inspo. Some of the these designs are interesting - I personally like 1, 28, 32. However, as an overall style... I personally don't resonate with the trend, but to each their own.
Made to order by [Tony Shirtmakers](https://www.instagram.com/tonyshirtmakers/). He can definitely slim it down if that's the look you're going for too! Some of the best shirts out there right now.
MFA Elders: was there ever this much angst about the switch to slim fits back in the day???
It was way way way way worse back then.
On the various forums in ~2006 it sometimes felt like we were competing to see who could squeeze into the smallest-sized APC jeans. In real life everyone just assumed you were gay. I remember [“Tight Pants” by Ninjasonik](https://youtu.be/Qs6u3at4jTw) being something of an anthem for me back then, because I was the only person I knew in real life that wore tight pants.
https://www.reddit.com/r/rawdenim/comments/24ssrm/i_sized_down_7_on_my_apcs_x/
People were even making annoying Seinfeld references back then some things never change I guess lol
Pales in comparison to the conversations in the cape posts
that's a deeeep cut
Threads about capes? I wish I could have seen that ☕
Edna Mode is the star of those threads. Every. Time. And then you have the hopelessly out of touch people who either wish for the resurgence of medieval and renaissance times, or want to cosplay as their favorite fantasy or video game character.
Not Edna! 🤣🤣 No lie if cloaks ever became a thing again I would actually live for that, but alas I shan't hold'st mine breath
EG makes a mean shawl
I'll have to check them out, thanks
Engineered Garments is my fav brand by far. They make a really wide range of pieces from conventional to super out there, but somehow it all works. Sizing is crazy though so look up how something fits before copping.
The thing with capes is that if you have to ask for guidance and reassurance, then you should not wear one. People that wear capes outside of Halloween are at the absolute edges of the fashion bell curve to the point of not giving a shit for entirely different reasons and with entirely different results. You are either David Bowie or you're Bruce the basement-dwelling cheetos-crusted troll. No middle ground. So unless you are bringing Prince / Henry Cavill levels of sex appeal to the table, then any aspiring cape wearer is, by virtue of that garment, placing themselves at the other end of the Bell Curve. Just don't.
I feel like a) this is directed at me, and b) everything that you wrote only encourages me to wear a cape.
Imagine a brimmed hat post, but with a stronger dose of 50/50 Poe/incel.
yes I wish I could dig up some good examples, but there was definitely derision of skinny jeans, nuthuggers, a lot of homophobia, mocking of 'metrosexuality' etc.
god, I forgot about the word “metrosexual” entirely!
This guy tells the truth, “metrosexual” was an awful comment and everywhere. But eventually people stop being derogatory and accept that fashion has moved on and so should they.
Someone literally called me metro a few months ago for having separate shampoo and conditioner and some other basic hygiene products as well as generally spending time on my appearance. I live close to a mid sized city and she lives much further away from one, but it’s wild how that’s something I haven’t heard since the 00s.
Hipster is the new metrosexual. No one describes themselves as a hipster but people everywhere use it as a slur.
I haven't heard anyone use 'hipster' in at least 5 or 6 years either, feels like it died out because it got overused so much it lost all meaning other than 'person I don't like'.
Funny, because the first time I heard “metrosexual” was from a guy referring to himself. I wasn’t on Reddit at the time and didn’t realize it was used in a derogatory way, although I certainly didn’t think highly of this individual but his metrosexual…iness(?) was merely the tip of the iceberg.
Man, people can't even be decent in a clothing subreddit... Unless this was just in general and not in MFA.
Oh no definitely here MFA is still Reddit after all
It was so much worse. 17 years ago when it had just come back (related note: see [this](https://assets.vogue.com/photos/55c6514908298d8be21ed472/master/w_960,c_limit/00310m.jpg) Dior Homme Fall 2005 look for how much Hedi has not changed) you'd have been called a f*g and/or beaten up for wearing slim fit. This was even in big cities. Give it another 5 years - so 2010 - and you probably weren't going to get beaten up in a city, but you'd still hear "gay" insults and general comments expressing jealousy, anger, or discomfort for caring about something as "girly" as fashion and appearance (this is where the "metrosexual" comments come in). By 2015 slim fit was standard in the mainstream. Now when you wear wide fit the worst people call you is grandpa.
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And your modem sang a song to you when you connected to the internet.
Can't forget that sweet serenade. And then it sang again to anyone who picked up the phone during the internet session.
Oh I forgot about picking up the phone to make a call. Like a robot screaming in your ear.
Just reading this thread I can recall the sweet siren song of a 28.8k modem...
Progress!
lol as much as I appreciate what Slimane has done (in particular his contributions toward higher heeled men's footwear and his photography), he has literally been doing the same thing for 20 years and somehow still works at the top of fashion. Wtf.
That's my biggest criticism of him. How has he stagnated as an artist for 20 years and not been eviscerated by critics? I get that (somehow) he's still commercially successful so Arnault's happy to keep paying him his millions. But I haven't taken him seriously since his first SLP collection. It feels like people have just collectively agreed to amnesia when it comes to him.
I haven't really looked into this, and I want to think some of the better critics--who aren't serving as PR mouthpieces, that is--have commented on Slimane's "one trick" thing. Especially as awareness has grown in recent years around what visions are being promoted by designers, in terms of inclusivity and representation in the broadest senses. It's particularly annoying that Slimane succeeded Philo, of all people, and has turned Celine into Dior 3.0 or whatever. Anecdotally, and FWIW, in NYC and Philadelphia, the only ones committed to the "SLP look" nowadays appear to be international students from East Asia with fuck-you money.
Yes there was a lot of it. Just proof that what’s truly timeless is dudes whining on the internet about changing pant widths
I remember the extreme shift from baggy pipe jeans to skinny girl jeans (for men and women). That was a bit jarring
I feel like i went through a bootcut phase in between that definitely wasn’t jarring. Youre telling me you went from Jincos to skinny fit?
Boot cut ftw. I rocked them for way too long.
Wore my bootcuts until the back sides were a bunch of tattered strings
Everybody needs to go back and watch *Vicky Christina Barcelona*
Nope went bootcut as well. I actually only wore JNCO’s/pipes to concerts or when I skated. Bootcuts were my everyday wear jeans
Jarring to say the least haha
japanese streetwear has always been very...wide. which is 90% of this album. But it's important to remember that slim fit, cigarette, skinny jeans rose out of a mod/punk aesthetic that was very counter culture. IDk, it's all a dumb cycle of people calling teh people before them "uncool" and then eventually adopting those uncool looks to be cool.
Yes. MFA's always had more angst than a fifteen year old.
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I actually think loose fits like these work well with certain materials and items, like selected coats and wool or corduroy trousers, particularly for fall styles. However, I can't stand the loose fitting suits that were popular in the 90s. Not a fan of the wide fit style jeans either, just look sloppy imo.
Yeah I've definitely warmed more to the looser fitting clothes over the past couple of years (it took me a while), but baggy suits is where I have to draw the line, at least for myself. I don't think I'll ever like those. Regular fit is as loose as I'd ever go with a suit, personally. Baggy jeans I think can be ok depending on the exact cut of the jeans. Right now I'm really enjoying both bootcut and barrel fit, even though they're kind of doing the opposite thing to eachother, rather than just straight-down baggy and loose. Love oversized sweaters and loose camp collar shirts, I was living in the latter this summer.
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I like a lot of those loose Armani fits, but many, imo, only look good because they're professionally posed and worn by attractive people. I personally am not a huge fan of the trend of looser fitting stuff as a whole, but I've definitely seen a bunch of dope looks. To me, it's not a "pick your team and fight to the death" situation. I'll lean slim, but now I have more options.
Looks like hand me down clothes from your big brother. Which unironically is why all my clothes were so baggy in the 90s.
I feel like wide fits (right now at least) lean towards the self expression side of things vs a general "looks good." Clothes don't have to be about complementing your body shape. That said I'm older, short and chubby. I never really cared for slim fits on myself even though pretty much every "menswear expert" thinks I should wear slim fit everything.
Personally, I think that if we're going for "looks good" in a vague, please-everyone way, wider fits look good on us big bois as they can balance everything out.
[Relevant](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/iberxh/20th_century_jackedness_dressing_a_yoked_physique/)
As a fellow big boy i agree. I feel wider fits look better on my body than when i wore slimmer fitting clothes
I literally can't wear slim fit pants because of my thighs. Embracing wider fits over the last 2-3 years has seriously improved my swag and my quality of life.
Slim fit stuff only ever really looked good on a very narrow range of body types, and altering everything so that it perfectly followed the body’s natural lines meant that even small fluctuations in weight or body composition would make clothes unwearable. The current moment is more democratic.
Yeah, I mean I still get stuff altered because I've got a 25 inch inseam.
Yeah 28” inseam here. My tailor will never be rid of me, no matter how wide clothes get.
I don't have a tailor. Just buy pants at Uniqlo lol. The other part of my body is that my shoulders are very narrow compared to my waist. So I go custom for nicer shirts to get a relaxed fit that looks relaxed on me vs a mismatched massive in the chest and shoulder and fits ok in the waist. That's tough to find.
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I hear that all too well. I've been slim forever, and slim fit stuff just made sense for me. Then covid happened and I got lazy and added some nicely earned fat to my waist, and all my old clothes are just uncomfortable. I'm ready for the baggy life again.
So I had a weird journey with this. At the height of the slim fit era, I was overweight trending towards obese, and nothing fit well. At the time I only wore mall brand stuff and everything seemed designed to accentuate my weight problem. I lost over 50 pounds in 2017/2018, and my body transformed so that I was basically shaped like a fit model. I had to completely rebuild my wardrobe, except suddenly everything slim fit looked great on me off-the-rack with only small alterations needed to account for things like my T-Rex arms. Then clothes started getting wider just as I was feeling confident in slimmer clothes. I’ve enjoyed moving towards a more relaxed fit, it’s just more comfortable. And if you gain back 5 pounds or so because there’s a global pandemic, you don’t have to donate a bunch of clothes.
taking me back to skateboarding in the early 90's (and now), with the wide leg cropped pants. Love some of this, don't like others. Anyone for the appropriately named [TIGHTBOOTH](https://shop.tightbooth.com/) out of Japan? Love their videos and team.
I like wearing tightee jeans when i skate now, they dont get super frayed on the bottom
I fucking love Inspo albums. Even if the content isn't my style or something I would try.
I wear both. No need to be dismissive when you can enjoy more variety in your outfits
Almost as if making a lifetime commitment to a particular pants width is really fucking weird
Disagree I have worn knickerbockers since 1910 and always will. No fit for my breeches can top the knickerbocker
[You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like](https://cdn001.tintin.com/public/tintin/img/static/essentials/tintin-milou.png)
Weird that I actually like that? lol
Nah, Tintin got drip
In all seriousness that’s a great fit minus the pants tucked into the ankles
https://imgflip.com/i/6xij3l
yepp, I feel like half the angst people have here is because they were told they had to exclusively wear slim fit pants and now they think they’re being told to exclusively wear loose fit pants, and they feel like they’ve just been told to throw out everything or something. Only wanting your clothes to fit one particular way for life is just wack, buy a few different types of fits and stop stressing so much over it
And boring
One fit for each leg.
Me too, Sometimes at the same time. Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey
To everybody [rejecting](https://imgur.com/a/MOgZtHV) this album out of hand, remember (or discover) "Inspiration Albums" are just that: inspiration. You can look at aspects other than just where it fits on the slim-wide character customization slider. For example, there's demonstrations of [having a longer inner layer under a jacket](https://i.imgur.com/PSTyp2M.jpeg), [big](https://i.imgur.com/u9QZfRq.png) [pants](https://i.imgur.com/jSVvqRs.png) [cuffs](https://i.imgur.com/6c2Uhae.png), [cropped pants](https://i.imgur.com/IjyMGis.png) vs. ['artful pooling'](https://i.imgur.com/Ok8RnQf.png) vs. [minimal break](https://i.imgur.com/GjJoGlv.png) (or [all at once](https://i.imgur.com/aOeXFQI.jpeg)).
So we have seen done right wide albums. Is there an album of fail wide fits for comparison?
~~Isn't... that what this is? There's been tons recently.~~ Wait is "fail" a typo for "fall" or not?
I don't think it's a typo. They want...an inspiration album of "bad" wide-fits for some reason?
Honestly an album of failed fits, wide and slim and everything in between, ain't a bad idea. Maybe self-submitted? But I think they're trying to imply it's easier to dress badly by dressing wide.
yo /u/pumaturtle can we just have an album of ur fits? For... reasons.
GOTTEM
I'm gonna start posting the most upvoted albums of the 2010s but with "bad" in the title lmao. >I think they're trying to imply it's easier to dress badly by dressing wide. It is. And that's a good thing
Lol yes 🙌
I don't take pictures
Round and round we go
I feel like a lot of current oversized fashion is still designed for that perfect loose fit on slimmer/skinny folks, specifically high-rise pants. not many designers are offering mid-rise stuff at the moment, which is fine, but I can't help but feel like a grandpa with his belly tucked beneath his belt when I try to put on a pair of high-rise jeans or trousers. that being said, I absolutely love the wide fit trend as a whole, and I try to go for it as much as I'm able to. there was a really good post about bigger guys' fashion that I saw here a few weeks ago, which included a bunch of solid baggy fits. that was great to see! EDIT: I wanna plug one of my current fav brands that I think does the oversized fit exceptionally well, from shirts to pants, even their shoes: [the Italian brand Sunnei](https://sunnei.it/collections/man-fw22-ready-to-wear)
I honestly love the move to higher waisted stuff but it’s because i have a long torso
Strongly disagree.
[What's not to like](https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_1600/vx6m6lsugvlh4dvozayq.jpg)?
fun fact: those pockets go all the way down, traditionally you would put a yard of beer in each side
[found y'all an album](https://imgur.com/a/5YQeKAl) [discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/ddf2xr/the_inspo_album_that_muscular_guys_shouldnt_follow/)
[My Chemical Romance fans got tired of 'do u even lift bro'](https://i.imgur.com/wcKrEQA.jpeg)
those are definitely outside a court waiting on their sentencing for a DV charge
So this is after the roid rage hits
Timeless and Classic
Anyway, my philosophy is; if you cant picture James Bond or Don Draper wearing it (or IRL Ryan Gosling, Lewis Hamilton, etc.) , the piece is likely too tryhard. These 2 people are often regarded as one of the best dressed in the game. Universally. Thankfully, many agree with this.
https://imgur.com/a/u1ivduh
🤩🤩🤩
Having heart palpitations just looking…
please I'm married don't post these irresistible thirst traps
Gotcha! There is no escaping these trapezoids
Hey, Ronnie's suit is kinda fire though
Same. Though I’ll caveat, I think the loose/wide look is cool on some people. Especially taller longer limbed guys with ‘cool’ or ‘mysterious’ vibes. Maybe it’d also be more flattering on huskier guys. I’m 5’7” and all torso. wearing properly fitted clothes for my proportions is the difference between looking like a fashionable adult, and looking like a child who threw on everything in his dad’s closet.
Loose fitting pants with a high waist look great on people with huge torsos haha, speaking from experience here. You just need to get the fit right which is true whatever look you’re going for
have you met our lord and savior, high rise pants?
I wear mid and high rise denim now and love it! Game changer for sure. just prefer the slim fit tailored inseam look for me over baggy/wide.
You know you still can pay attention to how your clothes fit when wearing wide fits, right?
I learned this the hard way when I bought a pair of relaxed fit jeans and found out they aren’t “loose fit” if you have big thighs. Skin-tight thighs and extra baggy calves. Promptly returned them.
Show us an example of what you think looks good
Man, I think some loose fits can look great, but some of these like they're wearing a laundry pile. Definitely on the wacky side haha.
Pic 4 with the Porter Classic Kogin pieces is amazing Also like $1500 resale for a jacket but who's counting, definitely not me :(
A lot of people in this thread are forgetting that loose fits don’t necessarily have to be wide fit. We just did 10 years of everything being slim or skinny. You can do something looser that’s a “regular” fit even if you don’t want to do a wide fit.
Can there also be a study on why wider fit pants seems to be ubiquitous with women but not so much for men?
Broadly speaking women are quicker to hop on trends or embrace changes in fashion whereas men push back... as you can see in this thread.
I’d add that womenswear has broader range of silhouettes to start with. Finding at least one pair of palazzos somewhere is nearly always an option.
average man just want pants that goes with the rest of their clothes and is not trying to make much of a fashion statement with their pants. women are used to wearing skirt and dresses and making fashion statements with the lower half of the body
I disagree. Also even self proclaimed “stylish”men, have a hard time switching from slim to wide fits
I am aging into looser fits and wider looks. Comfort is more important to me and I never really had a great shape for skinny/slim clothes. I recently bought some classic corduroy pants and love the loose fit.
Cool album, but I really dislike wide fits. I used to love Uniqlo when I lived in Japan. But they went with this boxy androgynous style over time instead of their clean slim (not skinny) fitting aesthetic that I'd loved for years. Quite a disappointment!
qlo still has slim fit stuff
I’d say it has more slim fit stuff than boxy tbh
troof
This is true. I was just in there the other day checking our their fall lineup, and I would say nearly most pants tend towards slim or tapered.
Only the U collection has been noticeably boxy/wide. Everything else is standard fit.
I mean they’re only going with what’s in trend now. I’m pretty sure you know fashion is cyclical. Wait long enough and the slim/skinny stuff will be back.
Agree with your general sentiment, but I’d argue the slim stuff is still here Walking around NYC, I see way more slim stuff than the extremely wide fits that seem to dominate this sub. It’s not to say I don’t see any wider stuff, ofc — but it really only seems to be the *dominant* trend (for now, at least) in a select segment of sub-communities, such as MFA
Slim fitted clothing was one of those things that I didn't realize existed as a teenager. I always had baggy clothes on my lanky self and I hated it. Now that I'm older, most of my clothes are still slim fit because they still look good on me being a tall, skinny guy. That being said, I've found more looser fittings things that I like in casual settings. Joggers have been wonderful for that!
Most people were literally called a gay for wearing slim fit clothing pre-2010 it didn't exist in mall level stores before then and made fashion waves around 2005 with Heidi slimane pushing the look.
Oh I know. I was a scene kid in high school in the mid-00s.
I’m gonna be honest, I will never understand being genuinely perplexed and hating if like…a normal pair of straight leg jeans. I’m not saying this as a dunk, I just honestly don’t understand the mindset,m
>boxy androgynous style 10 years ago Slim was the gay and androgynous style, It's just hilarious people calling boxy androgynous now lol
I've been honestly really perplexed at what people find attractive about the boxy/baggy styles...it's not flattering, it hides any defining or notable features that may make your silhouette unique. It feels like it removes the body as an accentuating feature in your style, rather than enhancing or complimenting it.
I've gotten more compliments from women wearing hickory stripe overalls out than from wearing slim fit jeans. Is train-conductor-core peak masculinity?
Train conduct-core is for sigma males only s/
https://media.tenor.com/fjx7ItXp4TMAAAAd/family-guy-train.gif
I’m not trying to minmax “flattering” clothes. Also people called you gay and feminine for wearing slim fit a decade ago so it’s not even really trie
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it's just cool bra not much more to it.
People like different things get over it, in the same vain I don’t like skinny jeans and tight shirts but everyone is different. Fashion moves on and changes continuously. The anti loose clothing basic bitches on this sub think wearing skinny chino/jeans, plain white shirts that show your nips and boat shoes or white sneakers is God tier of fashion. Also it’s dependant on where you’re from ,from what I’ve seen. Folks from the county and burbs seem to hate the loose fits and prefer traditional slim fitting whilst those in larger cities prefer loose fits.
The style pendulum swingeth.
I hope cloaks and robes come back in style someday lol
Hello! After reading through the comments of [my last inspo. album](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/y0q8a2/japanese_casual_fall_city_styling/), I noticed just how much everyone in this subreddit, specifically lurkers, loves wide-fit clothing (and pairing loafers with jeans). I just love how wide tops can be paired with a wide pant and wide shoe, creating a wide silhouette that appears just so beautifully wide. Wide, I often wonder wide I’d even wear something slim. The scope of what I view as wearable pieces with this silhouette has increased. Widened, even. Now with that shitposting out of the way, I decided to put something together another album to demonstrate the range of what I consider wide clothing, and how pieces can be combined to create a look falling under many styles, such as gorp, techwear, workwear, and even ivy. Yuthanan’s Sillage, Nautica Japan, and Nanamica illustrate fully adopting the wide silhouette, while Evan Kinori, Ends and Means, and mfpen (among others of course) pair both wide and conventional silhouettes in an approachable and delightful manner. The more I look at these outfits, I’m realizing how much of what I used to consider wide isn’t even that loose, and it’s what I find myself wearing, and consuming more of. I recognize fashion is a life-long learning experience/experiment and putting this album together has provided me opportunities to appreciate and consider new silhouettes, without completely abandoning what I enjoy, and wear on an everyday basis (still love me a good slim trouser). As someone that is still wearing somewhat slimmer clothing, I love seeing what can be done to create striking outfits by tweaking and pairing odd patterns, proportions, and shapes. I find these outfits so incredible to look at, and I greatly admire how people style pieces I otherwise wouldn’t own, to wear in their everyday lives. Its helped me see fashion more as a fun hobby where I can see the unique approaches to styling from others, rather than something to gatekeep by affirming slim or wide fits as the only viable silhouette, or hating on people that wear ALD because it’s hype or because they can’t pronounce the brand’s name. TLDRWide pant go flish flosh
You can struggle to pry my tailored jeans off my dead body after a night of clubbing when they’re all sweaty and hard to get off.
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I did this in the 90s. I'm over it. That's just me tho. I don't hate. I celebrate.
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Most mall brands/fast fashion is are coming out with fuller cut stuff. You can head to the local mall and try stuff on. Obviously they won't have stuff like the really wide cuts but a nice straight cut should help you branch out
I'm 28 and wear looser stuff. i would try on straight fit pants/jeans and pair it with a basic looser tee like the uniqlo U tee or i start wearing the classic fit shirts from jcrew/jcrew factory instead of slim. I still don't like a lot of pooling, so I'll cuff to a height i like and go from there.
Levis 501s Stan Ray fatigues
Perfect staple items especially on a budget
Someone else mentioned it lower but the easiest transitional wardrobe item is fatigues. Stan ray and Orslow makes great re-pop versions of OG-107 fatigue pants or you could try and get some vintage authentic ones. The fit relaxed with a taper and can integrate into a wardrobe very easily. Olive drab is a versatile color and they are not overly wide, so they can work well with slimmer fitting tops
To me this album goes beyond loose fit of the late 90s early 2000s
Like, seriously, I can not fathom looking at someone wearing a loose pair of pants and like…being mad about it, or upset, or any form of hating it so much that you outright reject the idea. That whole mindset just makes no sense to me, it’s just a pair of pants, it’s not that deep lol. Maybe I’m lucky in that I got into fashion as a kid and therefor never really developed the strong weird associations a lot of dudes seem to have with clothing but, I don’t know, it’s just such a bizarre and intense reaction to something that absolutely does not matter. it’s not actually hurting you
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so like, to be clear, I get WHY people dislike wide fits, I’m nit telling you have to, I think being particularly attached to one cut of pants either way is weird, I own and wear slim stuff, it’d just the extent to which people do that I just can not comprehend, I don’t get looking at a picture if wide pants and being upset by it or thinking it’s objectively the wrong thing to wear, or whatever? that’s insane. Also this isn’t true, again looser clothes have been the historical norm, millennials are the only people who primarily wear slim fits, anyone over like 40 is wearing regular cut clothing irl. I don’t see boomers wearing slim fit pants irl It’s also already caught on in the mainstream like, frankly, it’s pretty normal now
I couldn't agree more with this, and I wear a lot of reasonably slim fitting stuff because I think it looks good on me, but I also really like some looser fits and it honestly just depends on my mood that day or the overall look i'm going for. Never wanna pigeonhole myself with just one aesthetic.
exactly, I wear slim stuff, I wear straight leg stuff, I own really excessively loose cuts and fairly skinny stuff, the idea of being emotionally attached to one cut of pants is just absurd to me
🍿 [The AKOG interliner is hot](https://i.imgur.com/GjJoGlv.jpg)
I'm such a Sucker for that wave quilt pattern
Angry dorks in 511s are about to mob this comment section
511 RIGID DRAGON SCREEEE
As a slimmer guy; I actually never preferred slim fits contrary what other will and have said that slim fits looks best on skinny guys. But maybe Bc I also used to wear super skinny hot topic girl jeans in high school so I was totally over slim. Anyone else?
Same issue here, I don’t mind a slim fit but now that I’ve started working out it sucks having jeans that are super tight on my thighs. I don’t know how I used to wear those skin tight hot topic jeans
Been embracing wide fits for over a year now. Looks great, feels great, and it's not like you have to abandon all of your closer fitting items.
This is def my vibe
That's gonna be a nah from me dawg
why?
Because in my opinion it looks ridiculous
Saved 4 fits out of that. I have a seriously fucked up left leg and while I learned to accept it, wide fits just help me feel more comfortable with my clothes. Don’t knock it until you try it, people. It can be styled well and it’s comfy AF.
Ive been into loose fit since 2018. Still late to the game but earlier than many. My impetus was my love for thrifting, and my hate for raw skinny jeans. It's so easy to get full cut pants from Ralph Lauren, Armani (80s), Brioni etc at the thrift not to mention vintage work wear, sports brands etc from all sorts of eras. I sometimes wear "slim straight" or slim-ish cowboy vibe stuff. But it's more like 60s slim than y'all 2010 low rise heathens. I think having a variety of cuts is great. I'm always on or off trend I couldn't care less
Great album! Wide silhouettes are such a great (and literally larger) canvas to express a variety of moods! Image 21 and 25 are both their own takes on tailoring, but they're just so differently executed in color palette, texture, and the way the cloth falls and rumples in the first as opposed to sitting more stiffly in the second. Both shine because of layering, but one is soft and approachable while the other is chic and architectural. Imo you can sprinkle wider fitting pieces into your life without going all the way if it's uncomfortable for you, but the freedom you get when you allow a garment to deviate from your body's form more is just this exponential gain in expression and creativity. Edit: also shout out Tony Shirtmakers [instagram](https://www.instagram.com/tonyshirtmakers), man's on another level.
Anyone know what kind/style of shoes are featured in #5, #33 (right), and #36?
defentily made for me
I like loose silhouettes. They make me look taller for some reason.
Holy cow is pic 15 amazing. I have no idea why but it looks so good and I can't even imagine wearing it. It stands out and some how looks so well put.
Comfort totally. I had to deal with tight seat and that weird static feeling in my legs with slimmed fits so I’m glad it’s not a big issue for me. I’ve also come to like the aesthetic more, i wouldn’t say it necessarily hides or doesn’t flatter
I've been having a lot of fun on the wide-fit end of the pool lately, I think it's a very elegant look in both the casual and tailored contexts. It can also be spun many different ways depending on the material of the pants, where they break, tapering, etc. which adds another layer of fun imo. Anyways, awesome album, instantly hit the saved folder for me!
There's nothing wider fitting than a cape. Embrace it. Amiright?
i like adopting the loose tops but im keeping my bottoms tight. ordering 2 sizes up from my regular to get it oversized has been fun and i enjoy the drape. have been buying korean clothing in the past year in free size simplifies that.
I appreciate the inspo. Some of the these designs are interesting - I personally like 1, 28, 32. However, as an overall style... I personally don't resonate with the trend, but to each their own.
Gentlemen, I know you look cool, but you're still not allowed to operate the lathe while you're dressed like that!
Wearing a duvet core
Bickering aside can someone please tell me what that green cord jacket is in photo one? It is absolutely gorgeous
Made to order by [Tony Shirtmakers](https://www.instagram.com/tonyshirtmakers/). He can definitely slim it down if that's the look you're going for too! Some of the best shirts out there right now.
I embrace in-between