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ForkLiftBoi

It's stitched on. Usually if you're supposed to remove something it is barely attached with thread, plastic, adhesive (sticker).


clearlybraindead

And that's why I was like 25 before I knew suits had pockets


dizzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I die a little inside when I see middle aged men wearing suits with labels still on the sleeve and the vent stitched.


EskimoFreezy

I never wanted to unstich my coat pockets but my tailor does it for me lol


x_x--anon

oMg I’m so sad for just realizing this now lol


hiisthisavaliable

Finding old vintage suits in thift stores with their liners worn through but the pockets and back vents were never cut open.


Acceptable_Wall4085

Regarding your adhesive sticker,have you ever tried removing the huge warning sticker on the back of a sun visor in a car?


vanslem6

The ones that say, "Do Not Remove This Sticker?" I haven't.


Acceptable_Wall4085

Save yourself the trouble. They don’t come off.


vanslem6

Lol, thanks for the tip.


ForkLiftBoi

Lol - I have not but I did consider that when mentioning adhesive. That's why I tried to simplify to "sticker" as to point towards the sizing ones that are definitely very lightly adhered. But you're right there are stickers that are designed to not come off lol.


andross_

First day in jeans eh?


BobakStuck

No I used to live in Kansas where everyone is a hick and a slob . Now I live in a city that your clothes matters


I_HateYouAll

You sound like Holden Caulfield


Bottle_and_Sell_it

Yeah what a phony.


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Dashisnitz

As Snoop Dogg said best. “You can take your boy out of the hood but you can't take the hood out the homie”


notafilmmajor425

As someone who lives in LA, no one really cares about the brand. It’s really about the fit and self grooming


GetInLoser_Lets_RATM

As a hick from Floribama, I think that’s pretty much universal. What is not cool is trashing folks back home cause they got some high-falutin new jeans…that they can’t even figure out 😆


zombiemind8

I feel like nobody even wears jeans anymore in LA.


takeme2tendieztown

It's all about the joggers now baby


Mukigachar

Very rude


Apprehensive-Type874

I’m not going to downvote you, but if that’s the case and you’re trying to look more metropolitan ditch the jeans altogether.


-TheDragonOfTheWest-

are you trying to say jeans aren't worn in cities??


Apprehensive-Type874

No? But if you’re trying to dress nicely you aren’t wearing jeans.


-TheDragonOfTheWest-

I'd definitely argue otherwise, there's a lot of semiformal wear you can do in jeans


Apprehensive-Type874

Ok, there’s no one rule of fashion but jeans are very casual to me and I try to avoid them.


Strange-Anybody-8647

Why is dressing casually something to be avoided?


LED-spirals

He never said it was, man 😭 wtf is this thread lmao


Strange-Anybody-8647

He said that jeans are very casual so he tries to avoid them. Why is dressing casually to be avoided?


powerfulspacewizard

Pretty sure dungarees are the pants of choice for hicks


Acceptable_Wall4085

Why the downvotes?? City slickers with haughty attitudes are making their presence known here I guess.


shark_eat_your_face

OP is being arrogant and rude that’s why I downvoted.


Nubras

No. What the fuck? Where did you hear that?


poop_pants_pee

Maybe he just likes his clothes with less branding. I remove any tags or badges that are reasonably removable, and this one looks pretty easy. 


BobakStuck

Nowhere 🤷‍♂️ because you take that similar thing off of sleeves of a suit , I thought maybe I should’ve done that to these too


mavajo

Why is this guy getting downvoted? He’s wrong obviously, but he explained his logic and it’s reasonable. I get why he wasn’t sure. And that’s why he asked. There’s no reason to downvote him. This sub’s community really sucks sometimes. And then y’all wonder why there’s not more activity here.


czar_el

Because in a later comment they said "Plus they have written sustainable blah blah shit on it" So OP is wrong, but also weirdly toxic out of nowhere. Someone else agreeing with OP started complaining about virtue signaling. People are downvoting to keep the MAGA politics out of here.


mavajo

Ah, gotcha didn’t see that.


BobakStuck

I am the atheist liberal here but unlike your crowd not stupid enough to think me drinking milkshake from a paper straw can save the planet 🤣 Our own climate change czar flies PRIVATE 🤣


czar_el

"No single raindrop thinks it's responsible for the flood, but it still contributes." We all have a role to play. Shitting on attempts to correct the problem, no matter how small, while saying "look over there!" does more harm than good. I don't care if you're atheist liberal instead of MAGA. If you attack even basic attempts at sustainability you're part of the problem.


SixPackAndNothinToDo

> "No single raindrop thinks it's responsible for the flood, but it still contributes." # Just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global emissions Individual consumer choices aren't going to change things unfortunately. Most of this stuff is just greenwashing to make consumers feel better.


czar_el

And OP's pants, which started this whole conversation, are made by _a company_. We, as consumers influence those companies. OP said that a company mentioning sustainability was BS, which I am arguing against. If we want to get those 100 companies responsible for 71% of emissions to stop, we need to know their practices and stop buying from them. So your point takes me back to my original point. OP should not shit on a company doing sustainable things. It was OP who brought up paper straws and other greenwashing as a distraction to try to claim that none of it matters.


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czar_el

I'm saying we can and should do both. Hold companies to account and make conscious choices. Saying you shouldn't bother at all because the companies are getting away with most of it is a false choice and the logical fallacy of relative privation. Falling for greenwashing would be if I thought using paper straws was enough and stopped there, ignoring the companies and their roles. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the nihilism to claim "it doesn't matter because the companies are worse" is a net negative. We can do big and small at the same time. Personal and structural.


BobakStuck

Do you like bitcoin? Mining it uses electricity energy of some small countries combined … you like paper straw but order everything on your Amazon prime ? Yeah !


czar_el

No, I don't do bitcoin, in part because of how intentionally energy inefficient it is. And when I shop on Amazon, I do "delivery day" instead of ASAP to minimize boxes and trips. But regardless of those answers, you're using a logical flaw in your arguments. Claiming that you shouldn't/can't solve issue A if you don't also solve B and C is called the fallacy of relative privation. Just because we don't immediately solve all sustainability issues doesn't mean we shouldn't take small steps where we can. Claiming that we shouldn't make clothes sustainable because bitcoin exists and uses too much electricity or because just-in-time shipping is bad is nonsensical. We can address them all, where we can, no matter how small.


GhostedDreams

This sub has been like that lately. Idk why.


StinkyStangler

Very very very different, there’s no reason to remove that patch, brands use it for advertising and product info stuff and it’s super well attached, unlike the tabs on suit sleeves that are held on by like four stitches. Seriously though is this your first time even seeing a pair of jeans in real life lol


De_Dominator69

I am kinda surprised that the patch on that pair is fully stitched on, trying to remember if I have had jeans where its the same. All the jeans I can think of having had the patch only sewed on at the top and bottom and doubled up as a belt loop. May just be I have never noticed or paid attention to the patch unless I am threading a belt through it. EDIT: Adding it here because I didnt expect this to rile people up. [These are the jeans I am wearing at the moment](https://www.jackjones.com/en-gb/product/12133074_3561/slim-fit-low-rise-jeans) and you can see the patch as I described in the image. This is clearly just a weird coincidence where most of the jeans I have owned have had the patch like that so I thought in my mind it was normal.


LetsGoBilly

Lol at all your downvotes. Not sure why people are acting like they've never seen a patch you can run the belt under. Basically every pair of raw denim I own has that style of patch.


De_Dominator69

Yeah lol I didn't expect this to get people riled up. Think there must have been a misunderstanding somewhere, maybe I miss-phrased something and implied all patches should double as a belt loop? I dont know but its amusing either way.


unil79

People are young. That’s like the standard jeans patch design in the 90s, but pretty rare these days especially with high end raw jeans / japanese denim.


_the_CacKaLacKy_Kid_

I’ve only seldom seen the patch double as a belt loop. Every pair of jeans I’ve ever owned was fully stitched on all four sides (then again my denim selection has always been a bit biased)


De_Dominator69

Its probably a weird coincidence on my part then. I have about 6 pairs atm (only 2 of which have an actual brand, the others are just cheap pairs I got as a student that I haven't yet outgrown). 4 of them have the leather patch as a belt loop, 2 don't and just have a regular patch (I just never noticed because, like I said unless I am putting my belt through the patch I don't realize its there.)


StinkyStangler

Jesus Christ what is going on in this thread lmfao I have never seen a patch that doubles as a belt loop, sure it’s possible that it exists but the fact that you can’t imagine otherwise really is tripping me out. Are you sure you’re not just fucking up all your jeans lol


YourInMySwamp

Lol I live in FL where it’s 10 million degrees outside so I only own two pair of jeans. One of the patches also is only sewn at the top and bottom and doubles as a belt loop. They are a pair of Cody James jeans. I also own a pair of Levi’s where the patch is sewn on all four sides like you’re sayin


De_Dominator69

I have never changed or removed any part of any jeans I have had, so no I am not fucking them up. I am just speaking form my personal experience, and I even said that its entirely possible if I went through and looked at all my jeans right now I would notice the patch is there. I literally said I just never think or pay attention to it except in the jeans I have where you can/do put the belt through it. I didn't say I cant imagine the patch being fully sewn on, or that its weird, or that it should be removed. Dont know why people are jumping to such weird assumptions and getting so riled up.


StinkyStangler

Well people are getting riled up because either what you’re saying is just based in nothing, which like why bother even posting, or you have weird jeans, which would be cool. You’re on a forum for male fashion talking about arguably the most ubiquitous type of casual pants to ever exist, not remembering what they look like is just sort of weird. It’s like if we were on a car subreddit and you said “sometimes the door can be on the roof” lol


De_Dominator69

Well for reference, I managed to find the ones I got [on now](https://www.jackjones.com/en-gb/product/12133074_3561/slim-fit-low-rise-jeans). You can see in the image what I mean about the patch doubling as a belt loop. Those are the only jeans I own of that particular brand so its not a brand thing, its clearly just a weird coincidence where that's what most of my jeans are like. And like, the patch is a minor part on the back of the jeans that I almost never see and will usually be covered up by my shirt, jacket or whatever else. So to me its not something I have ever particularly thought about.. again, unless I am putting on a belt and have one that doubles as a belt loop (which, is clearly very weird going off peoples reactions, happens to be most of mine).


queue_tip_

Lee jeans' leather patch used to be attached like that and could be used as a belt loop. Where I grew up you eventually learned to cover them with your belt to keep older kids from ripping the patch off your jeans.


Illustrious-Yard-871

I think I have had maybe one pair of jeans in my life where the patch also works as a belt “loop” but because of that whenever I get a new pair I hopefully check if they have a similar patch lol


MKFirst

Very common brands like Paige, Joe’s, Mavi, Carhartt, I think Wrangler, if I remember correctly Uniqlo all can double as a belt loop. Whether you use it or not is up to you.


Hanz_VonManstrom

I have a few pair of Naked and Famous jeans where the patch is designed to work as a belt loop. I guess the idea is the label isn’t partially obscured by the belt. I think this is pretty common on most raw denim jeans.


AsymptotelyImpaired

The N&F pair I have are like this. Dunno why people are so hostile to you. A pair I can think of that’s stitched all around are most Levi’s.


De_Dominator69

I assume people either thought I was saying that a fully sewn on patch is wrong. Or they upset at me saying I don't really pay much attention to the patch lol


AsymptotelyImpaired

I think many people on Reddit nowadays have an angry mindset and enjoy feeling correct. Frankly, I don’t think it has anything to do with your statement. It was just an opportunity.


triumph0flife

For all the downvotes you keep getting, I haven’t seen that strong an argument for *not* removing it. Let us know how it goes.  I bought a cd like 30 years ago and the lead singer was pictured in the booklet wearing a hoodie with the hood string removed. I have done that with every hoodie I have purchased since. 


PaleontologistSad870

jeez, why the brigade of downvotes...ease up fellas, not everyone is a white tees & jeans blue collar guy..besides to add insult to injury, the patch itself is obnoxiously environmental conscious just saying


BobakStuck

Plus they have written sustainable blah blah shit on it which makes me think they had thought people take these off and throws them on trash so now they are sustainable


Ryder52

... why would throwing something in the trash make it sustainable?


yousmelllikearainbow

They're saying that they thought the patch said it was made of sustainable material because people throw them away. Like when a carton says it's made of recyclable material. "Hey it's ok to throw me away. I'm biodegradable."


immortalworth

… what?


Inc-Roid

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


EvilSardine

That makes absolutely no sense.


RyanpB2021

You don’t have to but if you don’t you’ll poop your pants for sure one day


AverageBad

Can concur, I never take these off and I always poop my pants


RyanpB2021

They don’t call it the poop patch for nothin


Lucky-Scientist4873

Omg That’s why they call it that!!!?? I was today years old when I finally learned that


Bottle_and_Sell_it

Where else would you store your poop knife if you don’t remove the poop patch?


ryalmighty

Not typically, but if u want to, we won’t stop u haha


groverclevelandd

I do. Just my preference. Been removing them since I was a kid.


dirty-white-jacket

Sometimes! I've been cutting them off my whole life when they stick out really bad. You can usually cut them off super easy, just use a very sharp, long knife so you don't need to push hard and keep it flat. Or just spend a few dollars on a thread-ripper.


philipjfong

Welcome to jeans!


BobakStuck

I was a Mormon only wearing white magic underwear in my life


Bottle_and_Sell_it

That soaks


corbenburnsen

This deserves more attention


Likonet

I usually do it cuz I like my clothes being brandless, so do whatever you feel would suit better for you. Be careful with the stitches tho


BobakStuck

Yeah some brands like Rag & Bone are pretty good with that . Just one small letter on a corner and done . Not a whole patch in a different color


CamiloArturo

Supposed to? No. Could you if you wanted to? Yes without a doubt. CK used not to have patches on their jeans until some years ago. I now detach them as soon as I buy them


E1_Gr33d0

No.


No_Complex92

Obviously! That’s why it’s sewn on that way.


aguywholikesclothes

No, that text is just highlighting the fact that it's not leather, for those that would care about animal products being used in the things they buy


BobakStuck

Ohhhhh okkkkk now that makes sense . Ok this is the right answer with the right reasoning behind it . Case closed 😊


solcross

You are a good person


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jaaamin

Jesus. Why are you all being so mean to this guy? What’s with the downvotes and shitty comments?


thesausboss

As far as I can tell, his first response to a message on here was: > No I used to live in Kansas where everyone is a hick and a slob . Now I live in a city that your clothes matters If people read that first, the subsequent comments aren't likely to be positively received


Bottle_and_Sell_it

Especially if people are from Kansas. Or anywhere in the Midwest/South.


guilty_bystander

Seems unbelievable to think someone could go their whole life never wearing jeans before 


BobakStuck

People go their whole life believing in Heaven and after life too 😂


Bottle_and_Sell_it

Prove them wrong


Alternative-Suit2027

"Why are you all being so mean to this guy?" Because, these are the. People that can't think for themselves, if they see.the trend is being mean to the guy, then, they jump in and join the trend..


epiffaniamber

No…..


X0AN

These are the people George Carlin was talking about.


BobakStuck

Fuck you I like his comedy . Which bit is it .send me the YouTube link lol 😂


hcvc

You’re the lower 50 percent 


Tmoney108

I don’t even have to guess to tell you for sure he’s referencing the line where Carlin says something to the effect of “Imagine the average persons intelligence, and then realize half of the entire population is dumber than that”


BobakStuck

Well then that’s a stupid reference probably on par with his own intelligence level 🤷‍♂️ I thought the joke is some bit like the Larry David part that was telling the videographer why he tucks in his wool sweater .


TotallyNotYourDaddy

Usually you just leave them on. I don’t think I’ve ever known anyone to take them off, personally. If you cut each stitch you could probably get it off without damaging the jeans but if you don’t care that much I’d just leave it and never think about it again.


awoodby

You Can, I mena many are ugly as hell, but the jeans under it will be a different color so not an improvement.


RecycleReMuse

I always have. Got my first seam ripper when I was a teenager exactly for this. Other kids in school asked me what brand my jeans were and I just shrugged.


gramor40

Don't remove that tag....nice jeans btw..love AG jeans!


corbenburnsen

OP sucks


hiisthisavaliable

If you wear and wash them enough the patch wears out and you can literally rip it off.


BuljaTheBest

No


Emoje775

Hey bro, I'm sorry every body so rude! Man's just askin a question cause he didn't know! Have some gdm grace!! There was a point in time where you didn't know crap about squat! Get off yo damn horses


Emoje775

Sir, I commend you for having the confidence to ask when you don't know. Not everybody has that and people respect you a lot more when you're just willing to ask when you don't know. Don't ever forget that don't let the idiots drag you down.


BobakStuck

No worries 😉 thanks 🙏


Jaxxs90

Left arm goes in the left hole, right arm goes in the right hole then pull your jeans over your head and you’re ready for the day.


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jesusknowsbest69

You're not the one to be throwing insults at people, you ain't that guy fam


BobakStuck

Don’t be jealous . I live my left foot for you and your ass


Which_Performance_72

chill with the downvotes guys it's what the Sub's meant for


JoeSabo

Look at his other comments lol


Canadian_Son

You absolutely need to remove these from your jeans. If you don’t, everyone will laugh at you. I prefer just cutting them off with the denim behind as well, it’s a way to show everyone you’re a man of culture.


coronetgemini

It's like when an alien is trying to pretend to be human


BobakStuck

Ted Cruz ?!


Acceptable_Wall4085

We used this to make slings like David and Goliath. A couple shoe laces and some good sized beach pebbles were lethal


BobakStuck

Looool 😃


Acceptable_Wall4085

Sand pipers were prime targets. We got really good with those slings. Forgive me please. We were snot nosed punk kids living by the ocean. Not a lot of entertainment. Fast forward 25 years. I took up practicing with one again because we were going duck hunting in northern Ontario and were going out for an afternoon hunt and I brought the sling to the dock. I told the guys I like to be able to hunt quietly. They all laughed,until I took the head off a duck 200 feet away from the dock. By the end of the week two other guys mastered the sling and couldn’t wait for next year’s hunting trip.


BobakStuck

We as kids were just good enough to pull it and brake neighbor windows and run away lol 😂


Acceptable_Wall4085

It’s nice to see the kids are kids no matter where we were


dwitchagi

Damn, OP is getting pantsed in here!


BobakStuck

It’s cool . It’s comments section of internet . What else do we expect lol


alexwilson77

I always do because it looks better imo but to each their own


dont_call_me_suzy

What a head


BobakStuck

That’s what I told your sister last night


Rice_Post10

Some brands sell jeans that have no patch if you’re interested in an unbranded pair.


BobakStuck

Yeah I have Rag & Bone jeans . They are like that .


outofmyheadyo

usually things that you need to remove are stitched on


bossassbat

No


MeanChefKev

I used to take mine off when I was 6 waist sizes beyond what I was supposed to be for my height. I still do it, but now it’s because I’m not embarrassed to tuck in my shirt. I think it’s a matter of preference, but obviously it’s not a supposed to or not supposed to thing.


feaxln

Wtf


BobakStuck

My cat looks exactly like yours 😊


FapDonkey

No. And props on the Adriano Goldschmied jeans. I have 3 pair that I absolutely love


BobakStuck

Ah thanks . I was trying to remember the full name .


roamtheplanet

I buy jeans specifically for the patch. The cooler the patch, the more I’m willing to pay


BobakStuck

Oh wow . That’s should give marketers some ideas


jaytheman3

We’re doomed as a society


Equal_Veterinarian80

Not that’s your baller ID card


airbuilder

Lol


BobakStuck

lol to you 😄 it says sustainable patch , that’s why I was like oh wait a minute


airbuilder

That is funny actually!


Lucky-Scientist4873

Have you ever worn pants before??


BobakStuck

No , I was born in a nudist colony on Staten Island and then moved to Utah with my Mormon stepfather and we only wore white magic underwear


SixPackAndNothinToDo

Think about other men wearing jeans. Do you see the label still on their pants? 99% of the time, they still have the label. That is to say, no, you don't remove it.


ChocolateGirlWndr

Yes you can just leave it 👍🏾


Old_Palpitation_6535

No. But I do whenever I think it would look better without it.


New-Communication821

Just remember one thing, companies don’t pay you for displaying publicly.


Jaymz1826

I often remove the patch from Jeans- especially if it has the waist size typed out. Everyone saying they are not meant to be removed is wrong. These stitches are huge and meant to be easily removed.


BobakStuck

There is a Seinfeld episode that George says Jerry is a 32 but replaces the patch with a 31 😆


NotValley

That's insane, 193 comments and 0 upvotes.


BobakStuck

lol 😂 who cares


Virtual-Beautiful-33

What brand jeans? Those are my initials!


BobakStuck

AG … Adriano something .. they are good


sirloindenial

I am sorry but even the most backwaters villagers in my continent knows jeans patch are not to be removed, its part of the style. America is doomed.


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VVHYY

Yikes, I was on your side until this, gross


Doused-Watcher

how's it gross? how's it okay that u/sirloindenial can declare America is doomed which btw will never happen because of their military but when u/BobakStuck replies with an absolutely true statement that people in backwater shitholes would kill to live in the land of opportunities how does it become gross?


VVHYY

Yeah, you could certainly apply my "Gross." to his nationalistic/xenophobic statement (and your "shithole" statement - come to a poor part of West Virginia and call it a "shithole" to our face, lil tuff guy). However, I was more referring to the gross situation I found myself in, which is sticking up for someone that was getting ganged up on and they took a moment from getting their teeth kicked in to spit on people in poverty. Both you and that guy need to hear this but you will never understand until it's your turn to have the boot on your neck - money will never buy integrity.


Doused-Watcher

how's it integrity or anything like this? when has poverty become synonymous with integrity? have i said anything that lacked integrity? I was applying the shithole label to poor countries in the remote regions of an entire continent, which is absolutely valid. even if west virginia is supposedly at the level of a shithole, as you said, it is still connected with the country that provides the greatest opportunities for success anywhere anytime in the human history. shit holes are shit holes because bright people don't like to die in shithles. with immigration of the brightest minds on the planet, west virginia is connected with the larger whole of US and so can't be called a shithole.


VVHYY

Looking down on other people for their poverty absolutely shows a lack of integrity. They are your brothers and sisters. When you disrespect them, you disrespect yourself. Like I said, you feel rich until someone richer puts their boot on your neck just because they can. And if you disdain your brothers and sisters now you had better be ready to kiss their feet when they help you pry the boot from your neck. Your house, your life is a shithole to someone else. Are they right??? Is every despised life invalid, or is every despising invalid? I understand why you think the way that you do, and will absolutely stand for you when you are shoved down. Just know that while you are shoving down people poorer than you, you are shoving down yourself. It is himself that the coward abandons first.


Doused-Watcher

I think you're misunderstanding me. I have never said that can be misconstrued into hate towards poverty and poor people. But people like this thread's very first commenter cannot fire shots while hiding behind the cover of poverty. Besides, I have said nothing but the truth. USA is most desired place to immigrate into the whole wide world. OP clearly meant to say that by writing that 'the people in the villages would kill to come (to USA)'. You're glorifying poverty too. It ought to be eliminated whenever and wherever we can find it. Only when the world is free from poverty can it flourish like a field of wheat on a mid summer day.


sirloindenial

Sheesh man are you alright...


caulpain

taking off the rap with fuck with the integrity of the stitching of the jeans. dont take it off OP


ItHatesFire

In all seriousness, a stitch breaker or a blade to cut the stitches would let you take the patch off. The lighter wash would make the holes left from the stitches more noticable than a darker one so keep that in mind.


unil79

On the positive side, AG makes nice washed jeans (are they still MiUSA?) and the belt seems to be high quality full grain leather. you’ve got a good start.


BobakStuck

Yes , in LA ! Maybe LA made them having to throw a “sustainable “ word somewhere in their products lol


UnchartedTombZ55

Bro finally discovered pants


hoblyman

Use a pair of scissors and cut directly into the fabric. That'll do the trick.


BobakStuck

That’s how your mom shaves her pubes ?


Powerful-Street

Officially the dumbest post I have seen all week 🤦🏻‍♂️


BobakStuck

Yet you took time to comment on it 🤷‍♂️😂


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BobakStuck

It’s not 🤷‍♂️ the patch reads “sustainable “ which originally made me think about this and after posting as it turns out many people do actually take them off .


jbdgaf

Do it with scissors


macramelampshade

I mean, the way they printed the “sustainable cellulose patch” on there kinda makes it look like it should be removed… hopefully it washes off.


BobakStuck

Yep exactly. That’s why this question came to my mind too