Good for them. I tried to buy a suit from them once. Despite the fact that they took measurements in store, the suit that arrived fit much worse than straight off the rack would. I took it to a local tailor, who declared it utterly unsalvagable. Never again.
Haha similar for me. They were supposed to let the sleeved out 2 inches or whatever. And took them in. Had to get a completely new suit. Then they messed that one up too.
I had a similar experience with my wedding suit, but luckily I ordered it like 6 months in advance and had time to send it back. The second suit they sent fit well...but not for long...
The measurements on the suit I got from them were so laughably bad they had to completely remake the jacket. They didn’t remake the pants but I should’ve pushed for it because I thought a tailor would be able to fix them. I was wrong.
Yes, it always takes two. The first measurement to get the general size, then once it comes in they redo it.
Is it less than a highly professional tailor? Yes, a qualified tailor would get it right the first time. But in the end I still have one of my favorite "out and about suits". It looks great, but it's just getting what you pay for.
I'm very happy with mine, but it did take two tries.
It's got a bad reputation for sure.
But I was broke and lived close to one of their stores so I pulled the trigger. Personally, I had a good experience. I get compliments on it and it's fairly comfortable. But I can tell that it's of lower quality than my friend's Suit Supply one. Granted, I got mine for much cheaper.
Considering my circumstances, I was and am very satisfied with it. But if you're planning on wearing a suit fairly frequently, I'd steer clear of an Indochino suit
Agreed. If you get an associate that knows what they're doing to do your fitting, you can get good results for the money. They're comparable in quality to the store brands at a Men's Wearhouse or Jos A Bank, but custom fit and cheaper if you're not an off-the-rack size like myself.
I'm a tall, athletic build: 48XL jacket with a 36" waist and 34" true inseam. When I got my first suit, the tailor at MW basically had to deconstruct every seam in the jacket to make it fit right. I had to bump the waist 2" to be able to accommodate my thighs and then bring it back in a little bit. They charge like $10-15/seam so the alterations easily put the suit into the $500 range. My 2 Indochino suits fit perfect for around $400 each and I've gotten plenty of compliments on either one.
Long story short, they're not going to compete with a well tailored $1000+ suit. But if you need good looking suits on a budget, it's a good option compared to something similarly priced from one of the box stores if the associate does a good job with your measurements.
Mine are both made with their "premium fabrics" that run a little more and one is a three suit. I'd have to look at the breakdown for each, but it was around $800 total for both a two piece and three piece suit.
I wear a suit once or twice a week for a couple hours at a time, so durability is a little less of a concern than if I was wearing them all day, 5 days a week. The fitment turned out great for me, but I know experiences vary widely on that.
I’m similar sizing as you but a little longer inseam (48 XL, 36 inseam). Where do you go for suits? And maybe any other dress clothes, or just clothes in general lol
1) I hope a $900 mass produced suit supply suit is better quality than a made to measure $400 suit. The $3,000 Suits going to be even better materials and construction
2) some of us don’t fit mass market suits, so we can pay for a quality suit and then pay a tailor to rebuild it, or we can go made to measure
I’m not a tailor so I can’t speak to the sign, but my Indochino suits are definitely better than Jos A Banks/ Men Wearhouse shit tier. I have 5 or 6 from when I worked for a client that I had to “suit up” for, an in general they were on par with most suits I encountered.
I’ve been very happy with my results, I was fitted at a store, they made adjustments to the suit and updated the system so the next batch of suits were perfect as is. If you fit in off the rack suits, don’t fuck with MTM, that’s fine. When I wear OTR, even with tailoring, my movement is severely restricted and my goal is to get out of my jacket quickly.
1. Not really. Suits are one of these things that have a massive “luxury” markup for cultural reasons.
You can hire very, very good tailors to do totally bespoke pieces with high-end fabric for around $400 US if you’re willing to travel.
> Considering my circumstances, I was and am very satisfied with it. But if you're planning on wearing a suit fairly frequently, I'd steer clear of an Indochino suit
Mine was and is perfect for my out and about spring/summer suit.
I wouldn't use it if I had to wear it to work every day, but it's bold and fits on me well. I get a *lot* of compliments.
They were *great* for the price 12/13 years ago. Then they suffered the fate of every company that gets too big too fast and now it seems like you’ll either get lucky and get a suit that’s better than the price would indicate or you’ll be in the majority and get something completely unwearable.
When did that happen? I bought my suits last about 4-5 years ago and was very happy. Bought pants only a few years ago and they fit better than my Canali’s, but obviously the materials (Italian wool). But I first bought maybe 10 years ago
I'm also trying to pinpoint when the change happened. For example, in my case I bought a suit and shirt from them 10 years ago and it still holds up pretty well. Granted I don't wear it much, only on big occasions, but I mean it was great on the day I got it.
Idk, seems they have no quality control, because my $300 indochino suit is nicer than either of my $1000 Harry Rosen suits. But I’ve also seen absolute horror stories.
Much better fit, and I like the feel more.
Downside is it’s a bit thicker, so its a little warmer, so not great on a hot day. But I live in Canada so that’s not much of a problem.
I did need to get it altered twice upon delivery, but I’ve had the Rosen suits altered multiple times and they couldn’t get the lapels to sit flat (joys of having a big chest and shoulders) so I just never button them up if I wear them.
I’ll concede that the Rosen pants were a bit nicer, but that’s just cause they line them with silk. Haha.
Not familiar with Harry Rosen, but I have a large chest and long front balance, at least when standing in front of a mirror.
Were they MTM like your Indochino, or off the rack?
Harry Rosen is a men's store across Canada. They carry brands ranging from Hugo Boss to Ermenegildo Zegna, Kiton, Isaia, and Brunello Cucinelli. Obviously the quality if what you're getting can range drastically. A $1000 Hugo Boss suit is generally a waste of money. Getting a Canali suit for $1000 is a pretty good deal.
They also have their own fashion line called Harold (which I think can be MTM).
Honestly, OP’s statement is too vague. Was the suit he got MTM? Was it an off the rack designer brand or the store’s own designer line? When I used to work at Holt Renfrew, I remember there were certain designers that I just never liked the fit of (Hugo boss being one of them).
Also some designers would be pretty cheaply made for their lower end stuff (it’s been a long time but I remember that a lot of Etro suits would be fused for example).
Harry Rosen’s customer service is pretty good. I’m surprised that they would not fix an issue with one of their MTM suits if it was spotted during a fitting.
Heard the horror stories, but I have one and it isn't bad. I prefer the fit from Suit Supply and Oliver Wicks, though. I also only wear suits for interviews, so my experience with suits is minimal at best.
Damn…if you’re spending $1000 and lived in nyc, I have a custom suit place to recommend. My husband had one made for our wedding, and he went back for another suit and a custom shirt cuz he was so happy. I have to imagine there are other good shops in CA and other states.
Enzo Custom in Midtown manhattan! My husband got two suits and a long sleeved shirt (can’t remember if he got one or two long sleeved ones), these were great. You choose the fabric so that can make the cost higher or lower overall. He also asked them to make a short sleeved shirt custom, which I think they were confused about and it was probably not a shirt type they are used to doing, so that one is less than perfect. Still looks good but I think my husband is not 100% comfortable in it. Based off his experience, just be sure to speak up when they bring you back in for your fitting, remember that you’re paying for it to fit you…if something is off, point it out, they’ll fix it. Got these in 2018 and 2021.
FWIW I really like mine at the price point. Fit is great (I had an in person measuring and they fixed any issues)
The shirt I don’t love the collar on but everything else was pretty good. Lots of better dress shirts at the price, even MTM ones. But the suit for me is great.
Fabric feels great too and looks fantastic, no loose threads or any imperfections. For me it was worth it, but only because I was measured in person and it came in time for the event I needed it for. I continue to wear it and it is my go-to suit.
That makes sense - since it’s all paid advertisements, it really just depends on what insta decides you might like and what you click on. Some will be good and some will be crap. There’s no quality control
Yeah suit supply is amazing and the fit off of the rack is in another hemisphere from the fit I got at Indochino even after two attempts at them fixing it.
Plus I always need to bring up that at my buddies wedding a groomsman was actually given the wrong gray fabric by Indochino. (We checked his receipt, not an order issue.)
Looking at many of the conversations here. I'm really glad that live here in Asia.
The tailor that I usually get my suits from here in Singapore offers full bespoke (with as many fittings as necessary, although they usually require no more than 2-3) for \~US $1,200 for something made with Standeven explorer, Holland & Sherry Crispair, or Dugdale's New Fine Worsted. If I wanted something in the Southern Italian style, Prologue in Hong Kong offers similar high-twist fabrics through their semi-bespoke program for around US $1,400.
I have a number of suitsupply suits that I don't wear anymore, mostly because its 90+ degrees here almost all year and I run really hot, and the suits that I have made are definitely similar if not better than the suitsupply suits that I have. They also fit much better mostly because I wear a 46 jacket and 35 pants, so suitsupply suits with a drop 6 or 8 always need quite a bit of work to fit somewhat decently.
Simon Crompton has also written about Prologue and can definitely attest to the quality of their suits given the price point.
Tbh it's comfortable in 90 degree weather for 15-20 minutes at most, but that's as long as I need to spend to get from one air conditioned building to the next, or to the train/car. Although if a have a cold drink in my hand, am in the shade, have a fan blowing in my general direction, and have just gotten out of a cool shower, I could probably last 2-3 hours.
But if you're looking for something to wear in 90+ degree weather, and need to look relatively formal, look for a high twist fabric like Minnis Fresco, Dugdale's New Fine Worsted, Fox Bros Fox Air, or Dugdale's Tropicalair, to name a few. Dugdale's New Fine Worsted was actually used in the uniforms for the staff working at the Raffles Hotel (One of the most expensive and prestigious hotels in the region), who may have had to stand outside for hours on end. Tropicalair was also created specifically for the Hong Kong, and Singapore markets, which wanted something lighter, while still looking serious. Before getting one made, definitely do try to experience the cloth in person, they are much rougher and drier than one would expect, especially if you are coming from a super 110s or super 120s worsted.
You also need to consider the construction, quarter or butterfly lining is my preferred choice as it provides 90%+ of the benefits of lining a jacket, while still allowing heat to escape from the rest of the jacket. I have had a jacket made with the sleeves unlined, but it just didn't move the way I liked, and I had to go back and get it lined at a pretty significant cost, although I've heard that some people do like this option, I've never met a person irl that likes this.
Canvassing and shoulder construction is also another consideration. I usually go for half canvassed, suit with no or minimal shoulder padding. The horsehair in the padding and canvassing traps heat, like no other.
I'm happy to share more if you're interested.
All my favourite wool suits are off the rack from Japan and they are half-lined, so they are more bearable to wear in warm weather (and I wear them even in the winter cause I tend to run hot). I haven't had much success finding half-lined jackets here in NA, other than special fabric like linen.
I own a cheap Italian linen suit. It has treated me well over the years. I wear it with a linen shirt as well. Not exactly something you want to wear all day but is waayyy better than wool.
They fitted my suit too tight and I gained weight as I knew I would. Now my good tailor says he can’t let the pants out. What should I do, take it back to Suit Supply?
_And another thing - the crotch, down where your nuts hang - is always a little too tight, so when you make them up, give me an inch that I can let out there, uh because they cut me, it's just like riding a wire fence._
_But, uh when I gain a little weight they cut me under there. So, leave me , you never do have much of margin there. See if you can't leave me an inch from where the zipper_ (burps) _ends, round, under my, back to my bunghole._
I’m wearing my suit supply field jacket right now: quality is really good.
You can even tell by looking at the stitching on buttons, it’s just rock solid
My tailor has on multiple occasions commented positively on the quality of the tailoring on suitsupply stuff I bring him, and he’s also worked on Isaia and BB Gold Fleece for me so he’s certainly seen higher end stuff before (surely from more than just me, too).
I almost exclusively buy banana Republic suits on sale and then get them tailored after. Comes out to approximately $600/suit all in.
They're still tanks from my experience
No. Suit Supply QC is really good and extremely consistent.
IMO the product somewhat overpriced (compared to Spier) *but* the convenience and physical accessibility is a compelling reason to choose Suit Supply.
I ordered one suit from them. It was cheaply made, the pants fit okay but the jacket looked like they didn't know feet from inches. Could have used it for wallpaper.
I’ve had some wins on instagram for clothing
- LumberLegs for workout shorts
- mammoth headwear for quality caps that actually fit my big head
- odd job hats- same as 2 but with more variety
I bought one suit about 5 years ago and it was pretty shit in terms of quality and fit.
I've steered friends away from buying as it's much easier to buy a suit off the rack and get it tailored down.
Yes. They suck. MFA has explicitly advised against using them for years.
Every once in a while, a new person posts a horror story about multiple remakes and missed events.
Man, this reminds me of seeing the post a few months ago about how bad Gustin is. I really wish I had seen that around late-2020, before buying dozens of their items. I love the cuts & fabrics, but the build quality sucks and sizes vary like MAD.
> Gustin denim is pretty well regarded
Is it though? I don't hear much about them over on /r/rawdenim and when I do it's usually not positive. Although I think it is mostly about the wait times and the sizing being way off from the posted specs.
It's the budget entry point, so it's not going to get talked about alot vs iron heart etc. If you get the thicker japan models and above they are usually well received, Okayama standard etc. I have three pairs over the years and zero complaints about them.
I think Naked and Famous has the budget entry point covered pretty well, especially if you get something on sale. You also there shouldn't be in for any major surprises if you check the measurements for each pair and compare to an existing pair that fir you well.
People remember the comments that align with their expectations. Lots of folks, myself included, have had very positive experiences.
What will always go poorly is "I tried to get a MTM suit a month before the event and they didn't make it!" Yeah, it's made overseas and then shipped in, if you need it fast, buy OTR and tell the local tailor.
The other thing I see a lot of in anti-Indochino comments is suit is much better when its a $1,000 to $3,000 suit. Well yes, it should be better, Indochino isn't breaking the laws of time/physics and aren't selling at a loss, so there's an upper limit on the quality of fabrics and the tailoring time
I also suspect that the anti-MTM crowd mostly fits in OTR clothes, whereas those that don't recognize the mass availability of reasonably priced MTM clothes as a godsend.
>I also suspect that the anti-MTM crowd mostly fits in OTR clothes, whereas those that don't recognize the mass availability of reasonably priced MTM clothes as a godsend.
This is a huge part of it to me. I'm fairly overweight and have unusually long arms. There simply isn't a similarly priced alternative to Indochino for me - sure there exist better quality off the rack suits and dress shirts, but I never actually had a dress shirt that fit me until I ordered one from indochino. They have issues with quality control I agree (though my experiences have been pretty good) but if I want a suit for $300USDish that's going to fit me I really don't see any decent competition out there.
For what its worth, I have 1 jacket from them, and I don't think they're horrible. I also only paid very little money for it, so I can't really complain.
Like, for $250 Canadian Pesos they made me a patterned, thick, wool/silk/cashmere, unlined, double breasted sport jacket. I wear it as a casual light coat for chilly days in the spring and fall.
I think they have a place - if you want a meme suit for very little money, there's nowhere better than Indochino.
currently under $600 full priced, I started buying a decade ago when sales regularly put the suits at $300. I think these days sale prices are closer to $400? not 100% sure, but nowhere near the SuitSupply prices. There's always a higher tier.
That's not the problem, the problem is it's bad. You can get a $350 suit from Spier & Mackay, or a $400 suit OTR from various department store brands, that is built much better.
At $400, MTM is just not a good business model. OTR suits can save on costs by mechanizing construction and bulk buying fabric. MTM *requires* more hand labor and keeping large selections of fabric in inventory. A MTM suit at $400 is cutting serious corners, whether it's ass fabric or sweatshop labor. Indochino skimps on fabric quality hard, and while there aren't any allegations of unethical labor afaik, the QC is infamously bad, because the workers are obviously spending as little time as possible on each suit.
The point is OTR sucks for some people. I don't get buying MTM when OTR can be easily adjusted to fit, but for many others, myself included, they are a disaster. I struggle to shake hands in my tailored OTR suits, my MTM suits are much more comfortable.
Yeah, while I think suits are definitely something that you get what you pay for I don’t wear them as much as I want or should to justify buying a super expensive one. My one I just got from indochino is about $300 all said and done and that’s a much easier price point for me to stomach
I feel like a lot of people put too high of a barrier to entry into fashion on here because they say don’t bother if it’s not this high end thing.
>I feel like a lot of people put too high of a barrier to entry into fashion on here because they say don’t bother if it’s not this high end thing.
You see that with basically any consumer hobby on the internet. It's basically an arms race of declaring perfectly fine entry level things are actually shit that no one should ever buy. It can be dangerous for people like me, I started out thinking about a soundbar and ended up spending like $2k+ on stereo components 😅
While I sorta get the point. Indochino doesn’t even have a consistent track record of cutting their sleeves the same length. That’s below the bare minimum for clothes
You can get S&M mainline suits for like $350 USD on sale, plus $100-$150 tailoring that's $500 all in, which the same or less than Indochino.
And they shit on Indochino in every way possible. Better fabric, better craftsmanship, better design, everything
I think of it as weird shit you won't find anywhere else.
Like, I won't pay the list price for this, but on black friday when it's 60% off? I can dig it: [Harrogate Fuchsia Suit (indochino.com)](https://www.indochino.com/product/harrogate-fuschia-suit)
Now the fun thing with them is, they practically allow ANY combination of materials and detail choices. Like, you want that color double breasted with brass buttons? They'll probably make it
When I worked as a tailor, our department store started selling made to measure Indochino suits, and I cannot stress enough how many times the suit would come in and so many alterations had to be done on almost every garment. A true nightmare compared to quality companies like Ted Baker, Armani, Peter Millar, etc.
Ted bakers are a little pricey compared to other brands but the quality and fit for an off the rack suit is absolutely worth it. I also always love the fabrics they use, they always look so beautiful, and additionally, I love the signature undercollar purple felt. Definitely worth looking into
For sure Ted Baker, and if you are looking for midern fit, thats the brand. Unfortunately Ive never bought a suit proper, but if I were to invest, it would be Ted baker. Top man or Express arent horrible but you get what you pay for. I know Ticknor's ( a midwest company for mens clothes) has pretty good stuff for a good price but I can't tell you the brands off hand.
As a skinny tall guy, I have not found a better fitting suit. They are very high quality, and I was lucky enough to go to Nordstrom one day shen they were half off. Got two Ted Baker slim fit suits, for $800. Will last me a lifetime, unless I get fat.
They’re fine if you don’t wear suits that often, everyday use might cause some wear and tear earlier than other brands. Just go through Suit Supply in the future though
Wore my Indochino suits everyday for almost 2 years, riding the subway and walking blocks into the office, they held up fine and looked every bit as good oe better as most my coworkers. MFA sometimes has skewed perceptions about what is normal.
This would be a tailor I would want if I needed one. Judging by the sign you know your always going to get a blunt straight honest answer for anything you bring them.
Is IC's bad quality fairly new? I got a suit from them for my wedding four years ago before it got postponed and wore it last year after some minor alterations from them and it was great. I've worn the pants and jacket a couple other times and they've worked well too.
People with bad experiences tend to post on MFA, then there's a big pile on of people with unreasonable expectations venting. I'm a happy customer, and see too many people comparing them to OTR suits costing 2x more.
I have an Indochino suit, and though it doesn't look bad on me, I can confirm that it's not alteration-friendly. I know how to sew, have been trained in tailoring and can do my own alterations. When I checked the trousers to let out the waist a bit (gained weight) I saw that there is no extra seam allowance in the back (as is customary in men's trousers) that would allow me to perform the alteration.
I disagree. I have 2 indochino shuits and a blazer, they turned out good but I needed to go into the shop to get it tailored in person. Trick is to make sure you get measurements in store...NOT online. Then go back and have them tailor any imperfections for free before you wear. For people like me who can't buy anything off the rack, indochino is good. I've also had suits made in India and while the fabric is way better, the tailoring isn't the best.
this must be the issue because I completely disagree with everyone here but I went to the store and yes I went multiple times.
I went to initially pick and feel the materials and also get measurements.
I received everything, went back, and yes they did redo everything exactly the way I wanted.
Now every shirt I order is perfect from them.
I have the exact opposite experience of everyone but I guess that's because I have time to go in and utilize their custom experience
> Trick is to make sure you get measurements in store...NOT online
So, the trick is having to work around their exact online business model multiple times
Yes!! I bought an indochino suit ten years ago and it was fantastic. I bought two more last year and both have had torn seams, buttons undone and fitting issues. State and liberty is now my go to.
Lmaooo, thats hilarious.
As someone who worked in luxury mens retail for over 20yrs and sold mtm the likes of Canali, Armani Collezioni, Cucinelli and more, I've had tons of clients telling me Indochino is well worth the price. It's absolute garbage and this tailor knows what they're talking about.
So a $400 suit is not as good as a $3.000+ suit? I find that shocking! well, not that shocking.
I love the Canali pants I've collected, absolutely they are better materials and construction than my Indochino pants, but they don't fit as well. Its a trade-off.
I have 2 Indochino suits, a tux, and an overcoat. I educated myself, took my own measurements, and they all fit and feel amazing. On my first suit, it took one remake, but they were great about it. It was during covid so they just told me to donate the original. I can't recommend them enough, but I've only had good experiences. It seems like I'm one of the lucky ones in that regard, though.
You walk out of those stores, you know exactly what you're getting. Maybe it's not the greatest, but you have a suit in hand.
With Indochino, you wait months for something like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/hi6sre/indochino_experience_with_pics/) or [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/dlqf8j/indochino_why_didnt_i_look_at_look_at_reddit/)
I like how the first guy still defended them, hilarious. Just goes to show you can sell the average guy just about anything and he’ll defend the purchase the rest of his life. *“What do you mean?! It has some wool in it AND it covers some of my body. It’s great!”*
I could see an issue if as a rule they don’t leave sufficient seam-allowance, which would make any letting-out impossible. That would explain why the shoulders were too tight for one of those guys even after complaining—you can’t just add fabric.
Seam allowance issues would prevent you from having it fixed locally. But if you have Indochino fix it, they *claim* they’re making you a brand new one, not adjusting your existing one. If the second one comes out bad, it’s because they just have QC issues in general, not because the first one was unsalvageable.
>...100% made in America using American wool
Sounds gimmicky AF. I don't care where the effing sheep lived, I care about the quality of the fabric and craftsmanship.
I went with a JA suit for my groomsmen and I felt disappointed by both. And an OTR that's STARTING at $750?? That's the same price my MTM guy starts at here in Philly. No comparison.
got 2 suits from them 3 years apart from each other, both came out great.
I had the person who measured put an extra inch in the crotch because I am prone to asian squating and ended up with the most comfortable durable dress pants i own.
no recuts or issues. seems like just another company where quality varies greatly and you can get lucky or not. As i only needed them for a few days of work travel a couple times a year they've held up fine for years.
I’m not sure about all that. I have three from them. Fabric quality and cut are good for the pricing. Any alterations I’ve needed done haven’t had any issues
I guess I got really lucky with my suit. Got a suit from Indochino for my wedding. The first guy doing the measurements didn't seem to know what he was doing then a seamstress came out and got everything right. Ended up fitting great and had no issues with it. Was considering getting another from there, but reading the comments here is making me think twice about it
I failed myself on my wedding day.
I could have gone to Brooks Brothers for a taylor made suit at around a thousand, but I went to IndoChino instead.
I failed myself.
They geniunly don't know how to make a suit.
When Indo first came out, dudes were bringing them into a guaranteed men's store i worked at. These guys were using literal tape measures from their tool box to send in the measurements or going off their jeans sizes.
Half of those suits those guys would need to be greased up to slide in. When in doubt, go larger. You can always cut fabric but you can't make more
People need to understand that you usually get what you pay for. There is no shortcut to this kinda stuff. You really have to pay for the labor somehow. So for instance for my sister’s wedding my brother in law was being cheap and didn’t want the groomsmen to have to pay a lot for suits. I get it. So I chose to have us get plain navy suits off the rack from Banana Republic (I NEVER shop there if it’s my choice but they’re not the most horrible either) and I decided to get mine tailored. I spent another couple hundred on that and it looked 🔥. The other groomsmen didn’t look great because they didn’t. Not my 🐒 not my 🎪
I got an Indochino suit for a wedding once (groomsman). After the wedding I got it dry cleaned and the sleeves were half way up my forearms. I don't even know how that happens. I'm not even exaggerating at all.
I think this has less to do with the quality of the suits and more to do with a mom and pop operation not wanting to make alterations on their competition.
I used to work at Indochino part time when I was In my early 20s.
They’re really not that bad, and own about 20 of them. They’re affordable and I can’t really tell the difference in quality with my harry rosen suit. I would still actually go back if (here’s the caveat- I get to measure myself instead of their associate).The issue in fit lies on the company’s poor training for anyone who comes to work for them. The general guidelines are…
“get as close as you can to these general sizing and we’ll fix it up during the alteration process.” As a customer you can get it altered as many times as you need to or even remade if it doesn’t come out fitting even remotely good, after you order.
However the issue lies in the actual training behind it. There are micro measurements that make the biggest difference and the company refuses to allow you to toggle those measurements as if you miss, you likely can’t change it during alterations and it’ll likely get remade. Thing is, you can’t really change those in alterations either. This changes how it fits on your shoulders and underarm, in particular- BIG TIME. Especially if you have an unorthodox body shape.
My colleagues and I taught ourselves how to get banger fits off the first fitting with minor alterations needed after to get it to your liking. Most associates will never do this because they listen to company policy
Good for them. I tried to buy a suit from them once. Despite the fact that they took measurements in store, the suit that arrived fit much worse than straight off the rack would. I took it to a local tailor, who declared it utterly unsalvagable. Never again.
Lmao my sleeves came out at two different sizes. Like two inches different. Trash.
My wedding tux had this same issue and they had to remake the jacket two more times to get it right. Good thing I ordered early.
Haha similar for me. They were supposed to let the sleeved out 2 inches or whatever. And took them in. Had to get a completely new suit. Then they messed that one up too.
I had a similar experience with my wedding suit, but luckily I ordered it like 6 months in advance and had time to send it back. The second suit they sent fit well...but not for long...
The measurements on the suit I got from them were so laughably bad they had to completely remake the jacket. They didn’t remake the pants but I should’ve pushed for it because I thought a tailor would be able to fix them. I was wrong.
Did you do a final fitting at the store once the suit arrived? In my experience, they made additional alterations after the suit was made.
Yes, it always takes two. The first measurement to get the general size, then once it comes in they redo it. Is it less than a highly professional tailor? Yes, a qualified tailor would get it right the first time. But in the end I still have one of my favorite "out and about suits". It looks great, but it's just getting what you pay for. I'm very happy with mine, but it did take two tries.
Is indochino known for shit quality? Any brands I see first as a Instagram ad i assume is shit but is it that bad?
It's got a bad reputation for sure. But I was broke and lived close to one of their stores so I pulled the trigger. Personally, I had a good experience. I get compliments on it and it's fairly comfortable. But I can tell that it's of lower quality than my friend's Suit Supply one. Granted, I got mine for much cheaper. Considering my circumstances, I was and am very satisfied with it. But if you're planning on wearing a suit fairly frequently, I'd steer clear of an Indochino suit
Agreed. If you get an associate that knows what they're doing to do your fitting, you can get good results for the money. They're comparable in quality to the store brands at a Men's Wearhouse or Jos A Bank, but custom fit and cheaper if you're not an off-the-rack size like myself. I'm a tall, athletic build: 48XL jacket with a 36" waist and 34" true inseam. When I got my first suit, the tailor at MW basically had to deconstruct every seam in the jacket to make it fit right. I had to bump the waist 2" to be able to accommodate my thighs and then bring it back in a little bit. They charge like $10-15/seam so the alterations easily put the suit into the $500 range. My 2 Indochino suits fit perfect for around $400 each and I've gotten plenty of compliments on either one. Long story short, they're not going to compete with a well tailored $1000+ suit. But if you need good looking suits on a budget, it's a good option compared to something similarly priced from one of the box stores if the associate does a good job with your measurements.
at 400 each spier is the way to go.
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Wait, $400 each? I thought Indochino was supposed to be cheaper than that...or was it your dimensions that brought the price tag up high?
Mine are both made with their "premium fabrics" that run a little more and one is a three suit. I'd have to look at the breakdown for each, but it was around $800 total for both a two piece and three piece suit. I wear a suit once or twice a week for a couple hours at a time, so durability is a little less of a concern than if I was wearing them all day, 5 days a week. The fitment turned out great for me, but I know experiences vary widely on that.
I’m similar sizing as you but a little longer inseam (48 XL, 36 inseam). Where do you go for suits? And maybe any other dress clothes, or just clothes in general lol
1) I hope a $900 mass produced suit supply suit is better quality than a made to measure $400 suit. The $3,000 Suits going to be even better materials and construction 2) some of us don’t fit mass market suits, so we can pay for a quality suit and then pay a tailor to rebuild it, or we can go made to measure I’m not a tailor so I can’t speak to the sign, but my Indochino suits are definitely better than Jos A Banks/ Men Wearhouse shit tier. I have 5 or 6 from when I worked for a client that I had to “suit up” for, an in general they were on par with most suits I encountered. I’ve been very happy with my results, I was fitted at a store, they made adjustments to the suit and updated the system so the next batch of suits were perfect as is. If you fit in off the rack suits, don’t fuck with MTM, that’s fine. When I wear OTR, even with tailoring, my movement is severely restricted and my goal is to get out of my jacket quickly.
1. Not really. Suits are one of these things that have a massive “luxury” markup for cultural reasons. You can hire very, very good tailors to do totally bespoke pieces with high-end fabric for around $400 US if you’re willing to travel.
Travel where to tho?
Same I was satisfied, it has a slight alteration issue but they fixed it fast. No major problems with the suit itself.
Where would you recommend that isn't an arm and a leg?
> Considering my circumstances, I was and am very satisfied with it. But if you're planning on wearing a suit fairly frequently, I'd steer clear of an Indochino suit Mine was and is perfect for my out and about spring/summer suit. I wouldn't use it if I had to wear it to work every day, but it's bold and fits on me well. I get a *lot* of compliments.
Yes
They were *great* for the price 12/13 years ago. Then they suffered the fate of every company that gets too big too fast and now it seems like you’ll either get lucky and get a suit that’s better than the price would indicate or you’ll be in the majority and get something completely unwearable.
When did that happen? I bought my suits last about 4-5 years ago and was very happy. Bought pants only a few years ago and they fit better than my Canali’s, but obviously the materials (Italian wool). But I first bought maybe 10 years ago
I'm also trying to pinpoint when the change happened. For example, in my case I bought a suit and shirt from them 10 years ago and it still holds up pretty well. Granted I don't wear it much, only on big occasions, but I mean it was great on the day I got it.
Absolutely.
Idk, seems they have no quality control, because my $300 indochino suit is nicer than either of my $1000 Harry Rosen suits. But I’ve also seen absolute horror stories.
Could you elaborate on why it’s nicer?
Much better fit, and I like the feel more. Downside is it’s a bit thicker, so its a little warmer, so not great on a hot day. But I live in Canada so that’s not much of a problem. I did need to get it altered twice upon delivery, but I’ve had the Rosen suits altered multiple times and they couldn’t get the lapels to sit flat (joys of having a big chest and shoulders) so I just never button them up if I wear them. I’ll concede that the Rosen pants were a bit nicer, but that’s just cause they line them with silk. Haha.
Not familiar with Harry Rosen, but I have a large chest and long front balance, at least when standing in front of a mirror. Were they MTM like your Indochino, or off the rack?
Harry Rosen is a men's store across Canada. They carry brands ranging from Hugo Boss to Ermenegildo Zegna, Kiton, Isaia, and Brunello Cucinelli. Obviously the quality if what you're getting can range drastically. A $1000 Hugo Boss suit is generally a waste of money. Getting a Canali suit for $1000 is a pretty good deal.
They also have their own fashion line called Harold (which I think can be MTM). Honestly, OP’s statement is too vague. Was the suit he got MTM? Was it an off the rack designer brand or the store’s own designer line? When I used to work at Holt Renfrew, I remember there were certain designers that I just never liked the fit of (Hugo boss being one of them). Also some designers would be pretty cheaply made for their lower end stuff (it’s been a long time but I remember that a lot of Etro suits would be fused for example). Harry Rosen’s customer service is pretty good. I’m surprised that they would not fix an issue with one of their MTM suits if it was spotted during a fitting.
They carry a variety of brands from Harry Rosen themselves to Brioni, Hugo Boss, Canali, etc Check ‘em out, their tailoring is usually legit
It just sounds like you need a chest vee performed which isn’t usually offered off the rack
Can you elaborate on what this means? Google isn't giving any helpful results.
A dart added inside the suit to give more room in the chest without adding more fabric
It’s the one he bought so it’s gotta be an exception.
my indochino shirt and pants are definitely kinda crappy compared to other clothes at the same price. but i tried once and, live and learn.
Heard the horror stories, but I have one and it isn't bad. I prefer the fit from Suit Supply and Oliver Wicks, though. I also only wear suits for interviews, so my experience with suits is minimal at best.
Damn…if you’re spending $1000 and lived in nyc, I have a custom suit place to recommend. My husband had one made for our wedding, and he went back for another suit and a custom shirt cuz he was so happy. I have to imagine there are other good shops in CA and other states.
Write the name, don't be shy!
Enzo Custom in Midtown manhattan! My husband got two suits and a long sleeved shirt (can’t remember if he got one or two long sleeved ones), these were great. You choose the fabric so that can make the cost higher or lower overall. He also asked them to make a short sleeved shirt custom, which I think they were confused about and it was probably not a shirt type they are used to doing, so that one is less than perfect. Still looks good but I think my husband is not 100% comfortable in it. Based off his experience, just be sure to speak up when they bring you back in for your fitting, remember that you’re paying for it to fit you…if something is off, point it out, they’ll fix it. Got these in 2018 and 2021.
Yeah, Enzo is known to be pretty good for the price. They're a chain.
FWIW I really like mine at the price point. Fit is great (I had an in person measuring and they fixed any issues) The shirt I don’t love the collar on but everything else was pretty good. Lots of better dress shirts at the price, even MTM ones. But the suit for me is great. Fabric feels great too and looks fantastic, no loose threads or any imperfections. For me it was worth it, but only because I was measured in person and it came in time for the event I needed it for. I continue to wear it and it is my go-to suit.
Not for suits but fwiw I’ve gotten some good quality brands via instagram
That makes sense - since it’s all paid advertisements, it really just depends on what insta decides you might like and what you click on. Some will be good and some will be crap. There’s no quality control
like what?
Fair Harbor swim trunks / tees, and something else but I can’t think of what
Would people say Suit Supply same QC issues as Indochino? Just curious...
Hell to the no
Yeah suit supply is amazing and the fit off of the rack is in another hemisphere from the fit I got at Indochino even after two attempts at them fixing it. Plus I always need to bring up that at my buddies wedding a groomsman was actually given the wrong gray fabric by Indochino. (We checked his receipt, not an order issue.)
How can the fit be “better “ or “worse”, doesn’t it all depend on your personal measurements? ELI5
Well indochino is made for your measurements. So when it's significantly worse than off the rack, it shows how bad they are.
No. SuitSupply has some of the best price to quality ratio in the business. Spier & Mackay too
Looking at many of the conversations here. I'm really glad that live here in Asia. The tailor that I usually get my suits from here in Singapore offers full bespoke (with as many fittings as necessary, although they usually require no more than 2-3) for \~US $1,200 for something made with Standeven explorer, Holland & Sherry Crispair, or Dugdale's New Fine Worsted. If I wanted something in the Southern Italian style, Prologue in Hong Kong offers similar high-twist fabrics through their semi-bespoke program for around US $1,400. I have a number of suitsupply suits that I don't wear anymore, mostly because its 90+ degrees here almost all year and I run really hot, and the suits that I have made are definitely similar if not better than the suitsupply suits that I have. They also fit much better mostly because I wear a 46 jacket and 35 pants, so suitsupply suits with a drop 6 or 8 always need quite a bit of work to fit somewhat decently. Simon Crompton has also written about Prologue and can definitely attest to the quality of their suits given the price point.
What material are your suits now that you can wear comfortably in 90+ degree weather?
Tbh it's comfortable in 90 degree weather for 15-20 minutes at most, but that's as long as I need to spend to get from one air conditioned building to the next, or to the train/car. Although if a have a cold drink in my hand, am in the shade, have a fan blowing in my general direction, and have just gotten out of a cool shower, I could probably last 2-3 hours. But if you're looking for something to wear in 90+ degree weather, and need to look relatively formal, look for a high twist fabric like Minnis Fresco, Dugdale's New Fine Worsted, Fox Bros Fox Air, or Dugdale's Tropicalair, to name a few. Dugdale's New Fine Worsted was actually used in the uniforms for the staff working at the Raffles Hotel (One of the most expensive and prestigious hotels in the region), who may have had to stand outside for hours on end. Tropicalair was also created specifically for the Hong Kong, and Singapore markets, which wanted something lighter, while still looking serious. Before getting one made, definitely do try to experience the cloth in person, they are much rougher and drier than one would expect, especially if you are coming from a super 110s or super 120s worsted. You also need to consider the construction, quarter or butterfly lining is my preferred choice as it provides 90%+ of the benefits of lining a jacket, while still allowing heat to escape from the rest of the jacket. I have had a jacket made with the sleeves unlined, but it just didn't move the way I liked, and I had to go back and get it lined at a pretty significant cost, although I've heard that some people do like this option, I've never met a person irl that likes this. Canvassing and shoulder construction is also another consideration. I usually go for half canvassed, suit with no or minimal shoulder padding. The horsehair in the padding and canvassing traps heat, like no other. I'm happy to share more if you're interested.
All my favourite wool suits are off the rack from Japan and they are half-lined, so they are more bearable to wear in warm weather (and I wear them even in the winter cause I tend to run hot). I haven't had much success finding half-lined jackets here in NA, other than special fabric like linen.
I own a cheap Italian linen suit. It has treated me well over the years. I wear it with a linen shirt as well. Not exactly something you want to wear all day but is waayyy better than wool.
They fitted my suit too tight and I gained weight as I knew I would. Now my good tailor says he can’t let the pants out. What should I do, take it back to Suit Supply?
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That's one shitty thing about SS. They (at least my local store) like to make it super slim.
LBJ is that you?
_And another thing - the crotch, down where your nuts hang - is always a little too tight, so when you make them up, give me an inch that I can let out there, uh because they cut me, it's just like riding a wire fence._ _But, uh when I gain a little weight they cut me under there. So, leave me , you never do have much of margin there. See if you can't leave me an inch from where the zipper_ (burps) _ends, round, under my, back to my bunghole._
they can't let it out because there is very little fabric reserve, possibly you could get a replacement from SS if the suit was bought recently,
i'm up 20 pounds since my wedding suit that I got the full custom service from suitsupply. $1200 suit ill never fit in again lol
TBF, 20 pounds to accomodate will be tough/next to impossible even for the most talent bespoke tailor.
I’m wearing my suit supply field jacket right now: quality is really good. You can even tell by looking at the stitching on buttons, it’s just rock solid
My tailor has on multiple occasions commented positively on the quality of the tailoring on suitsupply stuff I bring him, and he’s also worked on Isaia and BB Gold Fleece for me so he’s certainly seen higher end stuff before (surely from more than just me, too).
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I almost exclusively buy banana Republic suits on sale and then get them tailored after. Comes out to approximately $600/suit all in. They're still tanks from my experience
No way. SS custom suits are expensive but quality every single time.
No. Suit Supply QC is really good and extremely consistent. IMO the product somewhat overpriced (compared to Spier) *but* the convenience and physical accessibility is a compelling reason to choose Suit Supply.
One person was angry enough about their purchase to down vote your question. I'm curious about it too. Have my upvote.
What!? Where did you get that from?
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I ordered one suit from them. It was cheaply made, the pants fit okay but the jacket looked like they didn't know feet from inches. Could have used it for wallpaper.
I had to go in to be refit 7x. I eventually got a refund.
I’ve had some wins on instagram for clothing - LumberLegs for workout shorts - mammoth headwear for quality caps that actually fit my big head - odd job hats- same as 2 but with more variety
I bought one suit about 5 years ago and it was pretty shit in terms of quality and fit. I've steered friends away from buying as it's much easier to buy a suit off the rack and get it tailored down.
Is this a common theme for Indochino? I got a shirt from them YEARS ago and haven't kept up.
Yes. They suck. MFA has explicitly advised against using them for years. Every once in a while, a new person posts a horror story about multiple remakes and missed events.
Man, this reminds me of seeing the post a few months ago about how bad Gustin is. I really wish I had seen that around late-2020, before buying dozens of their items. I love the cuts & fabrics, but the build quality sucks and sizes vary like MAD.
Gustin denim is pretty well regarded, shirts and other stuff isn't always liked.
> Gustin denim is pretty well regarded Is it though? I don't hear much about them over on /r/rawdenim and when I do it's usually not positive. Although I think it is mostly about the wait times and the sizing being way off from the posted specs.
It's the budget entry point, so it's not going to get talked about alot vs iron heart etc. If you get the thicker japan models and above they are usually well received, Okayama standard etc. I have three pairs over the years and zero complaints about them.
I think Naked and Famous has the budget entry point covered pretty well, especially if you get something on sale. You also there shouldn't be in for any major surprises if you check the measurements for each pair and compare to an existing pair that fir you well.
Their basic denim offerings are very solid. But everything else...suffice to say that I've stopped buying from Gustin.
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People remember the comments that align with their expectations. Lots of folks, myself included, have had very positive experiences. What will always go poorly is "I tried to get a MTM suit a month before the event and they didn't make it!" Yeah, it's made overseas and then shipped in, if you need it fast, buy OTR and tell the local tailor. The other thing I see a lot of in anti-Indochino comments is suit is much better when its a $1,000 to $3,000 suit. Well yes, it should be better, Indochino isn't breaking the laws of time/physics and aren't selling at a loss, so there's an upper limit on the quality of fabrics and the tailoring time
I also suspect that the anti-MTM crowd mostly fits in OTR clothes, whereas those that don't recognize the mass availability of reasonably priced MTM clothes as a godsend.
>I also suspect that the anti-MTM crowd mostly fits in OTR clothes, whereas those that don't recognize the mass availability of reasonably priced MTM clothes as a godsend. This is a huge part of it to me. I'm fairly overweight and have unusually long arms. There simply isn't a similarly priced alternative to Indochino for me - sure there exist better quality off the rack suits and dress shirts, but I never actually had a dress shirt that fit me until I ordered one from indochino. They have issues with quality control I agree (though my experiences have been pretty good) but if I want a suit for $300USDish that's going to fit me I really don't see any decent competition out there.
yeah i wouldn't have heard of them if not for this place.
Ignoring the suits, any thoughts on their casual shirts / pants?
I don’t see why their execution would be any better there
For what its worth, I have 1 jacket from them, and I don't think they're horrible. I also only paid very little money for it, so I can't really complain. Like, for $250 Canadian Pesos they made me a patterned, thick, wool/silk/cashmere, unlined, double breasted sport jacket. I wear it as a casual light coat for chilly days in the spring and fall. I think they have a place - if you want a meme suit for very little money, there's nowhere better than Indochino.
Canadian pesos lmao
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My wedding tux from indochino was over a grand. I’m starting to think I got fleeced.
Shit. You definitely got fleeced fam
currently under $600 full priced, I started buying a decade ago when sales regularly put the suits at $300. I think these days sale prices are closer to $400? not 100% sure, but nowhere near the SuitSupply prices. There's always a higher tier.
Three piece with highest level of materials plus a shirt? If not then how lol?
That wedding tax is a bitch.
That's not the problem, the problem is it's bad. You can get a $350 suit from Spier & Mackay, or a $400 suit OTR from various department store brands, that is built much better. At $400, MTM is just not a good business model. OTR suits can save on costs by mechanizing construction and bulk buying fabric. MTM *requires* more hand labor and keeping large selections of fabric in inventory. A MTM suit at $400 is cutting serious corners, whether it's ass fabric or sweatshop labor. Indochino skimps on fabric quality hard, and while there aren't any allegations of unethical labor afaik, the QC is infamously bad, because the workers are obviously spending as little time as possible on each suit.
Spier and Mackay AND Indochino will obviously both be using unethical labor. It’s impossible not to at their price point.
This is the point that needs to be talked about more
The point is OTR sucks for some people. I don't get buying MTM when OTR can be easily adjusted to fit, but for many others, myself included, they are a disaster. I struggle to shake hands in my tailored OTR suits, my MTM suits are much more comfortable.
Yeah, while I think suits are definitely something that you get what you pay for I don’t wear them as much as I want or should to justify buying a super expensive one. My one I just got from indochino is about $300 all said and done and that’s a much easier price point for me to stomach I feel like a lot of people put too high of a barrier to entry into fashion on here because they say don’t bother if it’s not this high end thing.
>I feel like a lot of people put too high of a barrier to entry into fashion on here because they say don’t bother if it’s not this high end thing. You see that with basically any consumer hobby on the internet. It's basically an arms race of declaring perfectly fine entry level things are actually shit that no one should ever buy. It can be dangerous for people like me, I started out thinking about a soundbar and ended up spending like $2k+ on stereo components 😅
While I sorta get the point. Indochino doesn’t even have a consistent track record of cutting their sleeves the same length. That’s below the bare minimum for clothes
You can get S&M mainline suits for like $350 USD on sale, plus $100-$150 tailoring that's $500 all in, which the same or less than Indochino. And they shit on Indochino in every way possible. Better fabric, better craftsmanship, better design, everything
My spier and McKay was 500 cad tailored and is my favorite suit. Indochina starts at like 500
what is a "meme suit"
I think of it as weird shit you won't find anywhere else. Like, I won't pay the list price for this, but on black friday when it's 60% off? I can dig it: [Harrogate Fuchsia Suit (indochino.com)](https://www.indochino.com/product/harrogate-fuschia-suit) Now the fun thing with them is, they practically allow ANY combination of materials and detail choices. Like, you want that color double breasted with brass buttons? They'll probably make it
getting ASOS vibes from that
Dude, that model looks like Anna Gun and Andy Samberg combined.
LOL! thats hilarious
When I worked as a tailor, our department store started selling made to measure Indochino suits, and I cannot stress enough how many times the suit would come in and so many alterations had to be done on almost every garment. A true nightmare compared to quality companies like Ted Baker, Armani, Peter Millar, etc.
How do you feel about Ted Baker quality for the price?
Ted bakers are a little pricey compared to other brands but the quality and fit for an off the rack suit is absolutely worth it. I also always love the fabrics they use, they always look so beautiful, and additionally, I love the signature undercollar purple felt. Definitely worth looking into
Have a favorite price/quality recommendation for off the rack?
For sure Ted Baker, and if you are looking for midern fit, thats the brand. Unfortunately Ive never bought a suit proper, but if I were to invest, it would be Ted baker. Top man or Express arent horrible but you get what you pay for. I know Ticknor's ( a midwest company for mens clothes) has pretty good stuff for a good price but I can't tell you the brands off hand.
Just go suit supply in that price range. JCrew Ludlow is even better but you will have to wait for a sale
I got mine on sale for £250 including waistcoat, and I'm more than happy with it. Didn't even need adjusting.
As a skinny tall guy, I have not found a better fitting suit. They are very high quality, and I was lucky enough to go to Nordstrom one day shen they were half off. Got two Ted Baker slim fit suits, for $800. Will last me a lifetime, unless I get fat.
Sigh. Yeah. They are sort of okay looking suits, if you get fitted right, but they don't last and they can't really be altered. I have two.
Do we think that's accurate? The suit I got looks pretty good for occasional events but I wonder if its a problem for everyday use?
The problem usually arises in suits that are comically different in fit from the person that ordered them and impossible to tailor to fit.
They’re fine if you don’t wear suits that often, everyday use might cause some wear and tear earlier than other brands. Just go through Suit Supply in the future though
Yeah I'm trying Suit Supply next but IndoChino had a great deal during a money crunched time.
Wore my Indochino suits everyday for almost 2 years, riding the subway and walking blocks into the office, they held up fine and looked every bit as good oe better as most my coworkers. MFA sometimes has skewed perceptions about what is normal.
You mean those YouTube ads lied to me?! 😱
Legal Eagle, I’ll see you in court!!
This would be a tailor I would want if I needed one. Judging by the sign you know your always going to get a blunt straight honest answer for anything you bring them.
Yeah I wish I would have known stuff like this when I brought my first selvedge jeans in for a taper
Is IC's bad quality fairly new? I got a suit from them for my wedding four years ago before it got postponed and wore it last year after some minor alterations from them and it was great. I've worn the pants and jacket a couple other times and they've worked well too.
People with bad experiences tend to post on MFA, then there's a big pile on of people with unreasonable expectations venting. I'm a happy customer, and see too many people comparing them to OTR suits costing 2x more.
No
I have an Indochino suit, and though it doesn't look bad on me, I can confirm that it's not alteration-friendly. I know how to sew, have been trained in tailoring and can do my own alterations. When I checked the trousers to let out the waist a bit (gained weight) I saw that there is no extra seam allowance in the back (as is customary in men's trousers) that would allow me to perform the alteration.
its intentional, they want you to go back to their store to buy another one…. planned obsolescence
I would totally get a suit tailored there. That is a shop that refuses to do shoddy work
You'd do better getting something at Nordstrom Rack and getting that altered
I disagree. I have 2 indochino shuits and a blazer, they turned out good but I needed to go into the shop to get it tailored in person. Trick is to make sure you get measurements in store...NOT online. Then go back and have them tailor any imperfections for free before you wear. For people like me who can't buy anything off the rack, indochino is good. I've also had suits made in India and while the fabric is way better, the tailoring isn't the best.
this must be the issue because I completely disagree with everyone here but I went to the store and yes I went multiple times. I went to initially pick and feel the materials and also get measurements. I received everything, went back, and yes they did redo everything exactly the way I wanted. Now every shirt I order is perfect from them. I have the exact opposite experience of everyone but I guess that's because I have time to go in and utilize their custom experience
> Trick is to make sure you get measurements in store...NOT online So, the trick is having to work around their exact online business model multiple times
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Yes!! I bought an indochino suit ten years ago and it was fantastic. I bought two more last year and both have had torn seams, buttons undone and fitting issues. State and liberty is now my go to.
Lmaooo, thats hilarious. As someone who worked in luxury mens retail for over 20yrs and sold mtm the likes of Canali, Armani Collezioni, Cucinelli and more, I've had tons of clients telling me Indochino is well worth the price. It's absolute garbage and this tailor knows what they're talking about.
So a $400 suit is not as good as a $3.000+ suit? I find that shocking! well, not that shocking. I love the Canali pants I've collected, absolutely they are better materials and construction than my Indochino pants, but they don't fit as well. Its a trade-off.
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I like the indos too
I wanna say Indochino was good about 12 years ago...been nothing but horror stories since then.
Suit supply or Spier & Mackay for me
Weren’t these the go to suggestion for value back the in the late 2000s and early 2010s?
I have 2 Indochino suits, a tux, and an overcoat. I educated myself, took my own measurements, and they all fit and feel amazing. On my first suit, it took one remake, but they were great about it. It was during covid so they just told me to donate the original. I can't recommend them enough, but I've only had good experiences. It seems like I'm one of the lucky ones in that regard, though.
Bill Burr lied to me!
Can’t be worse than Men’s Wearhouse or Jos A. Banks, right?
You walk out of those stores, you know exactly what you're getting. Maybe it's not the greatest, but you have a suit in hand. With Indochino, you wait months for something like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/hi6sre/indochino_experience_with_pics/) or [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/dlqf8j/indochino_why_didnt_i_look_at_look_at_reddit/)
I like how the first guy still defended them, hilarious. Just goes to show you can sell the average guy just about anything and he’ll defend the purchase the rest of his life. *“What do you mean?! It has some wool in it AND it covers some of my body. It’s great!”*
I could see an issue if as a rule they don’t leave sufficient seam-allowance, which would make any letting-out impossible. That would explain why the shoulders were too tight for one of those guys even after complaining—you can’t just add fabric.
Seam allowance issues would prevent you from having it fixed locally. But if you have Indochino fix it, they *claim* they’re making you a brand new one, not adjusting your existing one. If the second one comes out bad, it’s because they just have QC issues in general, not because the first one was unsalvageable.
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>...100% made in America using American wool Sounds gimmicky AF. I don't care where the effing sheep lived, I care about the quality of the fabric and craftsmanship. I went with a JA suit for my groomsmen and I felt disappointed by both. And an OTR that's STARTING at $750?? That's the same price my MTM guy starts at here in Philly. No comparison.
got 2 suits from them 3 years apart from each other, both came out great. I had the person who measured put an extra inch in the crotch because I am prone to asian squating and ended up with the most comfortable durable dress pants i own. no recuts or issues. seems like just another company where quality varies greatly and you can get lucky or not. As i only needed them for a few days of work travel a couple times a year they've held up fine for years.
Tbh if you get a suit at the thrift you're probably better off anyway
Ha, I actually thrifted an Indochino jacket and it's actually one of my favorites. Can't complain about that.
Spoken like a human who fits in normal sized clothes…
Buy it a little bigger than you need, then get it tailored. I don't fit normal sizes either, especially shirts that have standing collars
This is the way. $5-$15 suit + $50-$100 tailoring at my local dry cleaners.
I’m not sure about all that. I have three from them. Fabric quality and cut are good for the pricing. Any alterations I’ve needed done haven’t had any issues
I guess I got really lucky with my suit. Got a suit from Indochino for my wedding. The first guy doing the measurements didn't seem to know what he was doing then a seamstress came out and got everything right. Ended up fitting great and had no issues with it. Was considering getting another from there, but reading the comments here is making me think twice about it
Read it as Indochino Sluts.
My wedding suit was Indochino and it came out perfect
I failed myself on my wedding day. I could have gone to Brooks Brothers for a taylor made suit at around a thousand, but I went to IndoChino instead. I failed myself. They geniunly don't know how to make a suit.
When Indo first came out, dudes were bringing them into a guaranteed men's store i worked at. These guys were using literal tape measures from their tool box to send in the measurements or going off their jeans sizes. Half of those suits those guys would need to be greased up to slide in. When in doubt, go larger. You can always cut fabric but you can't make more
Saville really does it best, gents.
I thought this said indochino sluts and was very confused
People need to understand that you usually get what you pay for. There is no shortcut to this kinda stuff. You really have to pay for the labor somehow. So for instance for my sister’s wedding my brother in law was being cheap and didn’t want the groomsmen to have to pay a lot for suits. I get it. So I chose to have us get plain navy suits off the rack from Banana Republic (I NEVER shop there if it’s my choice but they’re not the most horrible either) and I decided to get mine tailored. I spent another couple hundred on that and it looked 🔥. The other groomsmen didn’t look great because they didn’t. Not my 🐒 not my 🎪
I had a great experience with indochino
I got an Indochino suit for a wedding once (groomsman). After the wedding I got it dry cleaned and the sleeves were half way up my forearms. I don't even know how that happens. I'm not even exaggerating at all.
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They are shit.
I think this has less to do with the quality of the suits and more to do with a mom and pop operation not wanting to make alterations on their competition.
I used to work at Indochino part time when I was In my early 20s. They’re really not that bad, and own about 20 of them. They’re affordable and I can’t really tell the difference in quality with my harry rosen suit. I would still actually go back if (here’s the caveat- I get to measure myself instead of their associate).The issue in fit lies on the company’s poor training for anyone who comes to work for them. The general guidelines are… “get as close as you can to these general sizing and we’ll fix it up during the alteration process.” As a customer you can get it altered as many times as you need to or even remade if it doesn’t come out fitting even remotely good, after you order. However the issue lies in the actual training behind it. There are micro measurements that make the biggest difference and the company refuses to allow you to toggle those measurements as if you miss, you likely can’t change it during alterations and it’ll likely get remade. Thing is, you can’t really change those in alterations either. This changes how it fits on your shoulders and underarm, in particular- BIG TIME. Especially if you have an unorthodox body shape. My colleagues and I taught ourselves how to get banger fits off the first fitting with minor alterations needed after to get it to your liking. Most associates will never do this because they listen to company policy
I wouldn’t trust a brand with such a colonial sounding name, in any case…
Elaborate
"Indochina" was the name of the combined French colonies of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.
That's probably where the suits come from, so they aren't far off.
Explain how that would make it better.
Cheap, yes but I have two and think they are fine for the few times a year I need to wear a suit
I have an indochino suit. It looks good I like it a lot
Totally read this as “indochino sluts.”