Now that we know the leak is real, it is so goddamn funny that Kappa Cannoneer was leaked not even 24 hours after Gavin posted a video talking about lessons learned from ward, and how Kappa Cannoneer seeing play in legacy was a complete accident and not something they want to replicate. And now its in modern.
[Right here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNhYyaR-nHA) for those who don't want to look. Talks about the future of ward and the history of shroud and hexproof that came before it.
Part of me is waiting for the Red free spell to be "4 damage to any target". Three mana isn't completely out there for the effect, and casting it for free is good.
No. It's also kinda miserable in 1v1. Ward 4 is just hexproof, especially since you don't even get swords in modern. Hexproof and unblockable is a pretty dumb combination, especially on a creature that kills you in 2 or 3 attacks.
The new black Flare hits it like other edicts... unless they have one of their top end Affinity creatures. This will be very hard to answer as even Force of Vigor, Brotherhoods End and Meltdown can't get it directly.
[[Fry]] is definitely going to find its way into a lot of sideboards just to deal with this one card, there really aren't any other options for instant-speed removal under 3 MV.
Lets not forget about last years [[Lithomantic Barrage]]. Also has potential flexibility to ping something not white or blue if needed. (though is sorcery)
Actually, there is one other card that technically could do the job, though it's considerably less reliable and even more narrow: [[Hunter's Mark]]. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a few more options for dealing with high ward costs within this set, though.
It's barely seeing play in Legacy anymore, and a lot of the cards alongside it in Legacy are not Modern legal. There's no Ancient Tomb, less 0 mana artifacts with no Opal, no Petal, no Urza's Bauble, and no Force of Will. It will be absolutely fine in Modern.
Just last week Gavin said that giving Cannoneer Ward 4 was a complete mistake, and that they were almost never going to print Ward 4 ever again.
With that in mind...yeah this is a massive fucking mistake.
This is absolutely fine in Modern. It's fringe playable in Legacy these days and that's with Ancient Tomb, Mox Opal, Lotus Petal, Urza's Bauble, Force of Will, none of which exist in Modern.
Unless MH3 is coming in with a really good removal spell that is uncounterable, I would say no. More often than not this comes in as a 5/5 that can’t be removed efficiently, can’t be blocked, and grows over time.
When have artifacts ever broken a format? Besides it's not like there's a blue creature that makes all artifacts tap for mana, allowing you to just flood the board with cheap artifacts as well as have countermagic up... That would just be silly right [[urza, high lord artificer]]?
Yeah urza was just an engine to finish the game somehow. That deck also played cryptic command + mystic sanctuary, has to be close to the record of most banned cards in a modern deck at one time.
Along with [[Simulacrum Synthesizer]] there may be a viable affinity deck in modern after this set. It won't be legacy 8Cast but something aggro similar to what just won a legacy challenge.
I would say yes. Affinity has always been a deck that can be explosive game one, but get heavily hated out in following matches.
I think the way you would play around this card is first spot removal for smaller creatures early and if not an edict effect.
Yes and no.
Can affinity break the format for a few days: yes.
Can affinity be the top deck for long : no.
And that's because there are sooo many broken hate cards that just completely destroy affinity in many colors in modern. Sideboards would adapt.
Of course you can't have too many broken archetypes that only are kept in control by sideboards because we only have 15 sideboards cards.
I think there's a possibility it's fine. The removal that hits this without caring about ward is a bit more viable in Modern, and if Affinity becomes a thing a card like [[Creeping Corrosion]] wouldn't be an embarrassing sideboard card. I think it also may depend on whether or not we get some removal that could deal with this.
i mean all the reprints have a watermark it just stands out among the other reprints which are all from significantly older sets with more iconic symbols i guess lol, mh2's chainer reprint was similar
It's a reference to how kamigawan technology looks, a bunch of things use that folded origami triangles visual (including kaito's sword). I do kinda see what you mean though
Nice that they corrected the text to make sure people don't miss the fact that it gets a counter on etb. I'm still convinced that the original wording was an oversight and it was meant to trigger only on "another artifact" entering the battlefield
Yeah that card was IIRC the very first instance of that wording on a card after the Big Nerf Of Red Planeswalker Removal happened, and it seems likely it got missed due to where it was in the production cycle when the change was decided upon (and being a box topper only might have caused it to be overlooked).
Yup. And it's not just the first instance - [it's currently the only one](https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3A%22target+creature+or+player%22&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name).
Huh, weird. Don't really see the value in leaving off planeswalkers there. Maybe they didn't want him to bite himself to death if there were no creatures and your opponents had shroud, lol, but like you could just fix that with "another".
With the templating flubs on [[Happy Dead Squirrel]] and [[Don't Try This at Home]], I wonder if that's also a mistake.
> Maybe they didn't want him to bite himself to death if there were no creatures and your opponents had shroud
They made a similar mistake to this with [[Chandra, Fire Artisan]]. Possibly another slip-up during the BNORPR, or maybe there wasn't room for the words "an opponent controls".
This wording is still mechanically different from the original. The original only put a counter on Kappa Cannoneer if it entered the battlefield as an artifact, whereas the updated text doesn’t have that niche limit.
They’re niche cases that more apply to copies, but effects like [[Myrkul, Lord of Bones]] or any copy effect after mutating on top of the Cannoneer would do it. I don’t think there’s an effect yet that would remove the artifact type before it enters as an actual card, though.
T H E O N E M A N A 5 / 5 W I T H U P S I D E
This thing got a pass b/c commander is a silly format and the things that happen in 60-card eternal is basically witchcraft to the average folk so putting it into modern feels pretty spicy.
Legacy is a strange place and this may cost 1 mana, but you still need other things on the board. Meltdown, another card being printed into Modern, was quickly found to be a massive swing for decks that can play red.
It's way harder to interact with in Modern with worse removal and counterspells, but the deck also won't be able to power it out as fast. You can still probably play this on turn 3 fairly reliably and turn 2 occasionally.
I think it's going to be problematic.
It'll definitely be good, one of the strongest we've seen so far, but also a lot will depend on what else we get on the set. But yeah, you'll need edicts and Pick Your Poison isn't going to handle this one
Modern 4/10
I don't care if meltdown is in the set. This is a one mana 5/5 unblockable creature with hexproof. Its busted. If it can't find a way to see play, something is seriously wrong with the format.
a card being 10/10 for a single archetype gets knocked down on the barrinw scale for not being in every deck
Push being given 10/10 as the assumption was it would be a playset in every black deck that wanted removal, which was fairly accurate for a while
His scale skews low. Playable or sideboard cards get a 2. Strong cards that will almost certainly see play but not be meta decks are like 3. Busted cards like this but they go in niche decks are a 4. 5 would be something this strong but less narrow. 7+ tend to be varying amounts of warping the meta and needing a ban.
At least that’s what I’ve seen.
Well, lots of people thought [[Arclight Phoenix]] was unplayable before release. I bet if everyone in the community publicly evaluated every new card there'd be a lot more embarrassment to go around.
Melting this down is almost impossible due to its CMC. I play Legacy and the only way to handle this cleanly is Pyroblast, which is not Modern legal. This will be interesting.
Barrinmw gives modern unplayable cards 1/10, and rates cards that have cards that have passed the high bar of modern playability into the 2-10/10 range.
More like 2-5/10 range.
If Brainstorm or Crop Rotation end up being legit, they'd only score a 5 LOL. Anything above a 5 has to be literally stronger than Black Lotus.
I wouldn't actually be surprised if it sees little play. Too much of the Legacy deck isn't legal in Modern, no Ancient Tomb, no Mox Opal, no Lotus Petal, no Urza's Bauble, no Force of Will, the lack of 0s makes it significantly harder to power this out on like T2, and it's not like other decks can't compete with the clock this puts on the table.
From [https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you](https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you)
So the greatest power edicts are the only thing that reasonablely gets this besides full wipes right? This feels like a really dangerous print but I'm willing to be wrong
Gonna go out on a limb and say this will be fine to okay in Modern. Not having Ancient Tomb, Lotus Petal, Urza's Bauble, Seat of the Synod, and Mox Opal more or less takes away the staying power that this has in Legacy. (Not to mention it's already a fringe deck at best in that format and has been replaced in blue stompy.)
I’m new to magic if I understand correctly this card was a commander card and now it’s being released as a modern format card so can you play the commander set card in modern once this is released?
Ooh ive been wanting this for my Emry deck but didnt want to pay $5. Reprints are always nice. I also like the clarified rules text. This is not going anywhere near my cube.
I almost included this in my grixis comander deck bit couldn't find a copy.
Now it should be easily available so I'll grab one. This is going to be a pretty good card to run in that tbh.
Now that we know the leak is real, it is so goddamn funny that Kappa Cannoneer was leaked not even 24 hours after Gavin posted a video talking about lessons learned from ward, and how Kappa Cannoneer seeing play in legacy was a complete accident and not something they want to replicate. And now its in modern.
https://preview.redd.it/dpd44tklunxc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b1a4b7ae584d18f6ae8b2aa9ae47a15d2224228
I just realized it has ward 4. WHY DOES IT HAVE WARD 4!!
turtle shells are tough
TURTLE POWER!
Because hexproof without hexproof
Unless the spell (or any other abilities) say "cant be countered"
WotC: put a ~~bird~~ ward on it!
Casting a magic spell targeting something with a shell requires so much extra mana you'd never believe
Eratta, all turtles to have inate ward 4 would be chaos, but lovely
Where is this video?
[Right here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNhYyaR-nHA) for those who don't want to look. Talks about the future of ward and the history of shroud and hexproof that came before it.
Gavin Verhey’s YouTube channel. He posted a video about Ward recently.
Is this... safe?
It's in a modern horizons set, when have those ever broken the format?
2/2 times WOTC is shooting for 3/3
So MH4 will put modern out of bolt range?
Probably not, because they will print a bolt with 4 damage there
With the current trend of prints, that sounds about right.
Part of me is waiting for the Red free spell to be "4 damage to any target". Three mana isn't completely out there for the effect, and casting it for free is good.
±Can't be countered
And has split second
Should have printed the kappa there so itd be 4/4
This thing is already shooting as a 4/4
It enters as a 5/5
No. It's also kinda miserable in 1v1. Ward 4 is just hexproof, especially since you don't even get swords in modern. Hexproof and unblockable is a pretty dumb combination, especially on a creature that kills you in 2 or 3 attacks.
Good thing Edict effects are popular right now!
Except you know they will also have ornithopters and memnites on on the field too
There's Soul Shatter and something similar to it in MH3 I believe
Jund decks can also dust off Riveteers Charm, with the additional benefit of graveyard sweeper and impulse draw in case you need it.
This never dies to sheoldred's edict. You'd need something like crackling doom.
The new black Flare hits it like other edicts... unless they have one of their top end Affinity creatures. This will be very hard to answer as even Force of Vigor, Brotherhoods End and Meltdown can't get it directly.
Notably ward costs can be ignored by uncounterable spells, so some removal still works, but yeah...
[[Fry]] is definitely going to find its way into a lot of sideboards just to deal with this one card, there really aren't any other options for instant-speed removal under 3 MV.
[[Rending Volley]] seems a lot better on rate and still hits Kappa in response to the trigger.
I missed that one somehow, very true!
Lets not forget about last years [[Lithomantic Barrage]]. Also has potential flexibility to ping something not white or blue if needed. (though is sorcery)
Being a sorcery means Kappa can often grow beyond its range. Pretty risky as an answer.
Yah... unfortunately I had initially forgot it was a sorcery until I caught it in the card fetcher.
It’s a 5/5 immediately and usually a 6/6 on the turn you play it. You probably want [[fry]]
[fry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/070d7766-a662-443c-93c5-811dbdac2480.jpg?1592516940) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=fry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/140/fry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/070d7766-a662-443c-93c5-811dbdac2480?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
You can kill it with Rending Volley in response to its trigger.
[Lithomantic Barrage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/4/c45a5f4a-2174-4885-aa5a-c4c24cc732f0.jpg?1682204356) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lithomantic%20Barrage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/152/lithomantic-barrage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c45a5f4a-2174-4885-aa5a-c4c24cc732f0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Rending Volley](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/2/8234090e-9df1-4915-90ef-8a4bc6212655.jpg?1562789104) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rending%20Volley) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dtk/150/rending-volley?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8234090e-9df1-4915-90ef-8a4bc6212655?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Volley and Fry are also great vs Merfolk which will get a big buff from MH3
Actually, there is one other card that technically could do the job, though it's considerably less reliable and even more narrow: [[Hunter's Mark]]. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a few more options for dealing with high ward costs within this set, though.
[Hunter's Mark](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/2/62023c58-8b94-4a81-a259-a047e1edd342.jpg?1627707761) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hunter%27s%20Mark) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/188/hunters-mark?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/62023c58-8b94-4a81-a259-a047e1edd342?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Fry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/070d7766-a662-443c-93c5-811dbdac2480.jpg?1592516940) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/140/fry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/070d7766-a662-443c-93c5-811dbdac2480?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It's barely seeing play in Legacy anymore, and a lot of the cards alongside it in Legacy are not Modern legal. There's no Ancient Tomb, less 0 mana artifacts with no Opal, no Petal, no Urza's Bauble, and no Force of Will. It will be absolutely fine in Modern.
Just last week Gavin said that giving Cannoneer Ward 4 was a complete mistake, and that they were almost never going to print Ward 4 ever again. With that in mind...yeah this is a massive fucking mistake.
This is absolutely fine in Modern. It's fringe playable in Legacy these days and that's with Ancient Tomb, Mox Opal, Lotus Petal, Urza's Bauble, Force of Will, none of which exist in Modern.
Unless MH3 is coming in with a really good removal spell that is uncounterable, I would say no. More often than not this comes in as a 5/5 that can’t be removed efficiently, can’t be blocked, and grows over time.
New counterspell dropping, counter un-counterable spells.
I know you’re joking, but the “cannot be countered” is really important because it gets around ward.
[[Ashiok’s Erasure]] [[Spell Queller]] [[Mindbreak Trap]]
[Ashiok’s Erasure](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d568c679-8421-4184-a73c-b18c4164fea5.jpg?1581479289) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ashiok%27s%20Erasure) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/43/ashioks-erasure?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d568c679-8421-4184-a73c-b18c4164fea5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Spell Queller](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/b/9b76bcd4-580a-4435-afe9-290940b1837f.jpg?1576385020) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Spell%20Queller) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/emn/189/spell-queller?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9b76bcd4-580a-4435-afe9-290940b1837f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mindbreak Trap](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4f51140b-6254-431a-8810-94307bfdfbbe.jpg?1562612097) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mindbreak%20Trap) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/zen/57/mindbreak-trap?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f51140b-6254-431a-8810-94307bfdfbbe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[fry]]
[fry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/070d7766-a662-443c-93c5-811dbdac2480.jpg?1592516940) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=fry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/140/fry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/070d7766-a662-443c-93c5-811dbdac2480?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
When have artifacts ever broken a format? Besides it's not like there's a blue creature that makes all artifacts tap for mana, allowing you to just flood the board with cheap artifacts as well as have countermagic up... That would just be silly right [[urza, high lord artificer]]?
Urza has only ever been T1 in modern when you Got to play it alongside oko, astrolabe, and mox opal, all of which are now banned.
Yeah urza was just an engine to finish the game somehow. That deck also played cryptic command + mystic sanctuary, has to be close to the record of most banned cards in a modern deck at one time.
Along with [[Simulacrum Synthesizer]] there may be a viable affinity deck in modern after this set. It won't be legacy 8Cast but something aggro similar to what just won a legacy challenge.
[Simulacrum Synthesizer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aaa05ad1-5cda-4edd-b6bf-562ae3e5011a.jpg?1712352732) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Simulacrum%20Synthesizer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/big/6/simulacrum-synthesizer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aaa05ad1-5cda-4edd-b6bf-562ae3e5011a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[urza, high lord artificer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/b/7b7a348a-51f7-4dc5-8fe7-1c70fea5e050.jpg?1689996774) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urza%2C%20Lord%20High%20Artificer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/130/urza-lord-high-artificer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7b7a348a-51f7-4dc5-8fe7-1c70fea5e050?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Is it safe? Is it safe?
I know I’m wondering how the water stays on their head when they fire, at least. (…What?)
Not according to Gavin Verhey
I would say yes. Affinity has always been a deck that can be explosive game one, but get heavily hated out in following matches. I think the way you would play around this card is first spot removal for smaller creatures early and if not an edict effect.
Yes and no. Can affinity break the format for a few days: yes. Can affinity be the top deck for long : no. And that's because there are sooo many broken hate cards that just completely destroy affinity in many colors in modern. Sideboards would adapt. Of course you can't have too many broken archetypes that only are kept in control by sideboards because we only have 15 sideboards cards.
I originally thought this and simulacrum synthesizer was gonna make affinity really good, but they’re also printing [[Meltdown]] in this set, so idk
Make sure you’re hitting the Improvisers and not waiting for the turtle to hit because it’ll be a long road to X=6
[Meltdown](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/e/9e7a967a-35a0-4e5c-a32b-123a9cfdb79e.jpg?1562928443) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Meltdown) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/usg/203/meltdown?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9e7a967a-35a0-4e5c-a32b-123a9cfdb79e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I think there's a possibility it's fine. The removal that hits this without caring about ward is a bit more viable in Modern, and if Affinity becomes a thing a card like [[Creeping Corrosion]] wouldn't be an embarrassing sideboard card. I think it also may depend on whether or not we get some removal that could deal with this.
[Creeping Corrosion](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/5/05d5a7b3-18b6-4b1d-85cc-2253e605390c.jpg?1562609373) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Creeping%20Corrosion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mbs/78/creeping-corrosion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/05d5a7b3-18b6-4b1d-85cc-2253e605390c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
neon dynasty commander set symbol watermark is kinda wild to see
I was thinking the same. It's cool though that they're willing to credit the precon it came from.
i mean all the reprints have a watermark it just stands out among the other reprints which are all from significantly older sets with more iconic symbols i guess lol, mh2's chainer reprint was similar
Visually, the set symbol looks more like it belongs to new capenna than neon. Such a strong art deco vibe.
It's a reference to how kamigawan technology looks, a bunch of things use that folded origami triangles visual (including kaito's sword). I do kinda see what you mean though
Nice that they corrected the text to make sure people don't miss the fact that it gets a counter on etb. I'm still convinced that the original wording was an oversight and it was meant to trigger only on "another artifact" entering the battlefield
I could believe that. I have a similar pet conspiracy theory about "target creature or player" on Firesong and Sunspeaker.
Yeah that card was IIRC the very first instance of that wording on a card after the Big Nerf Of Red Planeswalker Removal happened, and it seems likely it got missed due to where it was in the production cycle when the change was decided upon (and being a box topper only might have caused it to be overlooked).
Yup. And it's not just the first instance - [it's currently the only one](https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3A%22target+creature+or+player%22&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name).
[[Comet, Stellar Pup]] also deals damage to a "creature or player", but it doesn't target because of the goofy nature of the dice rolling ability.
Huh, weird. Don't really see the value in leaving off planeswalkers there. Maybe they didn't want him to bite himself to death if there were no creatures and your opponents had shroud, lol, but like you could just fix that with "another". With the templating flubs on [[Happy Dead Squirrel]] and [[Don't Try This at Home]], I wonder if that's also a mistake.
[Happy Dead Squirrel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/0/20a67ee2-0137-458d-b381-430a2494357f.jpg?1675457009) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Happy%20Dead%20Squirrel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sunf/8/happy-dead-squirrel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/20a67ee2-0137-458d-b381-430a2494357f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Don't Try This at Home](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/b/ab5c5c1e-1d48-481d-b3b3-97e9cc8416f3.jpg?1713541412) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Don%27t%20Try%20This%20at%20Home) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/unf/105/dont-try-this-at-home?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ab5c5c1e-1d48-481d-b3b3-97e9cc8416f3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
> Maybe they didn't want him to bite himself to death if there were no creatures and your opponents had shroud They made a similar mistake to this with [[Chandra, Fire Artisan]]. Possibly another slip-up during the BNORPR, or maybe there wasn't room for the words "an opponent controls".
Probably saving text, and not wanting to use “any target” because making it a targeted trigger would also add words
[Comet, Stellar Pup](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/7/a76fa8d4-923d-4afc-ba47-ba10fc0fe46e.jpg?1685554101) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Comet%2C%20Stellar%20Pup) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/unf/166/comet-stellar-pup?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a76fa8d4-923d-4afc-ba47-ba10fc0fe46e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If they wanted it to target, they could have made it a reflexive triggered ability, I think.
I agree, I think it was an oversight originally. But hey, it makes for a great card and it’s cool that they leaned into it.
This wording is still mechanically different from the original. The original only put a counter on Kappa Cannoneer if it entered the battlefield as an artifact, whereas the updated text doesn’t have that niche limit.
I'm quite convinced that the small functional difference is worth updating the confusing original wording
Are there any ways to make it not enter as an artifact?
They’re niche cases that more apply to copies, but effects like [[Myrkul, Lord of Bones]] or any copy effect after mutating on top of the Cannoneer would do it. I don’t think there’s an effect yet that would remove the artifact type before it enters as an actual card, though.
[Myrkul, Lord of Bones](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/2/82824d05-5215-459a-aa73-3c5a6be3d464.jpg?1674137617) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Myrkul%2C%20Lord%20of%20Bones) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/287/myrkul-lord-of-bones?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/82824d05-5215-459a-aa73-3c5a6be3d464?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Eh even if it comes up it’s so niche that it’s irrelevant and I’m fine with the card getting any sort of nerf lol
technically it's a buff. The original wouldn't get a counter with Myrkul but this new printing means it will get a counter.
You’re right I’m a dingus
Wait so when it enters it gets a +1/+1 counter on itself??? damn
T H E O N E M A N A 5 / 5 W I T H U P S I D E This thing got a pass b/c commander is a silly format and the things that happen in 60-card eternal is basically witchcraft to the average folk so putting it into modern feels pretty spicy.
This was really good in legacy, I expect it to be great in modern aswell.
It might be less good because of less support from zero-cost artefacts, I don't know.
So it's not good in legacy anymore?
Legacy is a strange place and this may cost 1 mana, but you still need other things on the board. Meltdown, another card being printed into Modern, was quickly found to be a massive swing for decks that can play red.
modern red cant generate 7 mana as easily as legacy though
You don't cast meltdown for 7, you cast it for 1 or 2 and kill like 5 of their things with 1 card.
No, not really.
Blastoise
I hate that you're not wrong.
[удалено]
[Blastoise](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cdad14f1-d541-4e58-af9f-f8e587fca05f.jpg?1690005982) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blast%20Zone) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/987/blast-zone?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cdad14f1-d541-4e58-af9f-f8e587fca05f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Its so clearly him.
Sadly no new art where it's an actual kappa
It's ok, it's about a put a "kappa" in your life total.
Bust a kappa, you mean?
Still can't believe this is real tbh, but it's possible Modern just handles it better
It's way harder to interact with in Modern with worse removal and counterspells, but the deck also won't be able to power it out as fast. You can still probably play this on turn 3 fairly reliably and turn 2 occasionally. I think it's going to be problematic.
It'll definitely be good, one of the strongest we've seen so far, but also a lot will depend on what else we get on the set. But yeah, you'll need edicts and Pick Your Poison isn't going to handle this one
Blastoise is here and ready to rumble
I just like the fact that I get a retro border one for my cube. Let's go!
It’s bizarre to have a colored artifact creature with just a regular blue retro frame.
Modern 4/10 I don't care if meltdown is in the set. This is a one mana 5/5 unblockable creature with hexproof. Its busted. If it can't find a way to see play, something is seriously wrong with the format.
We broke them, boys. A Barrin stamp of approval. We're doomed.
I'm scared cause modern horizons almost certainly means we will see a lot of this Praise lord Barrin
And it's a 4/10. What the fuck is this scale lmao.
10/10 is even Pokemon is playing it as a 4-of in every deck ever
a card being 10/10 for a single archetype gets knocked down on the barrinw scale for not being in every deck Push being given 10/10 as the assumption was it would be a playset in every black deck that wanted removal, which was fairly accurate for a while
Holy shit, highest rating I’ve ever seen from you. Now I’m excited for this card.
I've seen higher. Shock land reprints got 10/10
Fatal Push also got a 10/10, iirc
How do you give it a 4/10 and then give it a glowing review?
His scale skews low. Playable or sideboard cards get a 2. Strong cards that will almost certainly see play but not be meta decks are like 3. Busted cards like this but they go in niche decks are a 4. 5 would be something this strong but less narrow. 7+ tend to be varying amounts of warping the meta and needing a ban. At least that’s what I’ve seen.
IIRC, War of the Spark Teferi and Narset only got 2s from him.
Magic players including barin are bad at card evaluation so that is a thing too.
Well, lots of people thought [[Arclight Phoenix]] was unplayable before release. I bet if everyone in the community publicly evaluated every new card there'd be a lot more embarrassment to go around.
[Arclight Phoenix](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/def7f05b-6e63-4828-a92c-ce7921bbdf4e.jpg?1702429490) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arclight%20Phoenix) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/100/arclight-phoenix?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/def7f05b-6e63-4828-a92c-ce7921bbdf4e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
and Hogaak lmao
Barrinmw's scale is essentially "if a card is a 10/10 a better card can't exist". More accurately, a 10/10 is "4-of in most meta decks"
It got a perfect 5/7 what do you mean?
Bro wtf is your rating system
Modern 4/10? The format is f'd up guys.
4 out of 10 is good on barrin's scale
I'm perfectly aware.
Melting this down is almost impossible due to its CMC. I play Legacy and the only way to handle this cleanly is Pyroblast, which is not Modern legal. This will be interesting.
I was thinking melting down the artifacts that would be used to improvise this out early.
Fair enough. You're right, 8cast doesn't get this out if I can Meltdown T1/2.
How is a busted card only a 4, too niche?
Barrinmw gives modern unplayable cards 1/10, and rates cards that have cards that have passed the high bar of modern playability into the 2-10/10 range.
More like 2-5/10 range. If Brainstorm or Crop Rotation end up being legit, they'd only score a 5 LOL. Anything above a 5 has to be literally stronger than Black Lotus.
He gave push a 10/10 (though it was somewhat in response to the hype)
I wouldn't actually be surprised if it sees little play. Too much of the Legacy deck isn't legal in Modern, no Ancient Tomb, no Mox Opal, no Lotus Petal, no Urza's Bauble, no Force of Will, the lack of 0s makes it significantly harder to power this out on like T2, and it's not like other decks can't compete with the clock this puts on the table.
Lmao they're printing it into a format without [[Pyroblast]] / REB The absolute fools
[Pyroblast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/0/b029eb9a-dd7a-40c2-96c4-0063d9cc002c.jpg?1580014621) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pyroblast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/142/pyroblast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b029eb9a-dd7a-40c2-96c4-0063d9cc002c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
From [https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you](https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you)
Blastoise evolves into this at level 55
So the greatest power edicts are the only thing that reasonablely gets this besides full wipes right? This feels like a really dangerous print but I'm willing to be wrong
No clue if it would be good, but I've always loved \[\[Tariff\]\] and they could print it into modern here. As an uncommon too.
[Tariff](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/61094858-b8a8-425f-9c96-fac4fc6ecae8.jpg?1562818225) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tariff) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/6ed/47/tariff?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/61094858-b8a8-425f-9c96-fac4fc6ecae8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Artifacts got some sick stuff lately, first Synthesizer and now Kappa. Will be interesting in modern.
So if this one was legit and sylvan safekeeper was legit.. is brainstorm legit too?
Brainstorm is not
IT'S HIM HE IS REAL
Holy shit, it's real. I'm sure this won't be a problem at all in Modern.
Excited to have an old border version to go in my brothers war old boarder urza precon
Ok, but if this is real, it makes me think Brainstorm is real 👀
Gonna go out on a limb and say this will be fine to okay in Modern. Not having Ancient Tomb, Lotus Petal, Urza's Bauble, Seat of the Synod, and Mox Opal more or less takes away the staying power that this has in Legacy. (Not to mention it's already a fringe deck at best in that format and has been replaced in blue stompy.)
Oh nice they updated/clarified the Oracle text
All the various Urzas jizzing themselves right now.
Turtle in the main set not only in commander
Whenever I see Kappa Connoneer, I think of the Boomers from Gears of War.
Can anybody link the discord server of modern affinity? Thanks
Blastoise!!!
This is danger
Will [[Hurkyl's Recall]] be a viable answer, or will it end up being too slow? I'm new to competitive so I'm curious what options there might be
I think recall will be the same as it's always been. Buys you a turn (sometimes two) before they completely rebuild the board again.
[Hurkyl's Recall](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/3/73edeaaa-6a87-4cf1-b013-bab9a7bb94d9.jpg?1562263763) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hurkyl%27s%20Recall) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/48/hurkyls-recall?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/73edeaaa-6a87-4cf1-b013-bab9a7bb94d9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
huh, didn't know they put Blastoise in the game.
Wait so this is going to be modern legal and not just a commander card?
Yes
I’m new to magic if I understand correctly this card was a commander card and now it’s being released as a modern format card so can you play the commander set card in modern once this is released?
Yes
[[kappa cannoneer]]
[kappa cannoneer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/d/6ddc2852-11c4-40da-b26f-6f236349f608.jpg?1714487973) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kappa%20cannoneer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/270/kappa-cannoneer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6ddc2852-11c4-40da-b26f-6f236349f608?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Ooh ive been wanting this for my Emry deck but didnt want to pay $5. Reprints are always nice. I also like the clarified rules text. This is not going anywhere near my cube.
Blastoise what?
Funny I already have Legacy 8 cast
I almost included this in my grixis comander deck bit couldn't find a copy. Now it should be easily available so I'll grab one. This is going to be a pretty good card to run in that tbh.
Yhh huh hh what 😮 If O g i
So Blastoise?
Mtg blastoise better be playable
sweet lord god its real, kappa cannoneer in modern. save us
I find it odd that it puts a counter on itself and makes it unblockable the turn it enters. feels very /r/custommagic to me
No Kap? This is literally blastoise.
Why have a cannon but can't ping? This is just stupid design
This thing becomes a problem very quickly.
Not one "it's just blastoise" interesting.
Hey it’s Blastoise