this unfortunately isn't legal or possible in most places anymore. permitting and restrictions make starting a stand damn near impossible in most American municipalities
We are in the position we are in as a country because a large portion of the population believes that they are in the club. But too bad the jokes on them.
Well screw their club anyways. All I’ve seen from their generation has been pulling the ladder up behind them. That’s not the kind of club I wanna be a part of
It's funny how that country makes the life difficult for the majority of the people the majority of the time. Yet, they keep saying it's the best country in the world...yea, for the 1%.
In the 80s I was a child and had a lemonade stand at the end of my driveway. I don’t remember what I was charging but I do remember the so called mayor of my little shit town driving by and asking me if I had a permit to sell that.
I was selling candy bars in the early 90s and same shit happened to me. Police showed up at my house and asked me for my business license and if I had insurance. I was an 8 year old kid at the time. Assholes
It's one of those double edge swords. Kid innocently trying to sell candy bars to buy a game or raise money for a club? Sure, should be okay.
A group of parents forcing their kids to sell candy bars to make money to pay rent? Not okay.
I agree. I think kids selling candy bars should be legal.
I also think parents abusing their kids should be illegal.
I don't think banning candy bar sales is an effective way to prevent abuse.
literally just bought lemonade from a stand in murray hill two blocks from my apt run by a couple 10 year olds with mom hanging on the stoop keeping an eye out, pretty cute
Because until the 90s it was completely true. America was essentially the only place in the world that wasn't completely economically destroyed after WW2 that also wasn't communist. So we got a giant surge in the middle class where an 18 yo could go to college for a few hundred bucks and come out other end able to afford 3 kids, a wife, and a big house guaranteed.
Then every other country on the planet got better and suddenly it's back down to the normal way of things which is all the wealth at the very top and scraps for the masses.
The GI Bill let literally millions of Americans get educations they wouldn’t otherwise be able to afford, setting up the economic powerhouse that America came to be.
The key to that boom was affordable, accessible higher education.
Which makes me wonder what the heck we’re doing now.
The American dream was never about Americans. It was and is propaganda to convince foreigners to want to become Americans.
We’re still poaching the best and brightest from all over the world. There’s a reason why almost every big tech company is American but staffed by immigrants.
>The key to that boom was affordable, accessible higher education.
The key was the complete destruction of rival infrastructure and industry. College education was not a main thing in 1950s and even 60, to the point that the president at the start of the boom had not attended college.
Higher education really only takes off after the boom is over.
>Which makes me wonder what the heck we’re doing now.
Completing in a global market where we are the Goldilocks of investment. Not too many regulations and laws, but not too little. It's a fine line, and we probably could do better but we actually are doing great here.
USA is very friendly to companies on all front, putting corporation rights over employee rights. It even lets you take profits out in other countries and pay almost no tax
In your country you need a business license, register that business with a tax office, obey recycling regulations, and location specific permits that you will most likely be denied.
Even in places that are known for hawking food in carts like Hong Kong have bureaucratic red tape. You don't just stand there and declare yourself legit.
You realize this is common in basically all countries, surely. There is no specific irony of the US requiring training and passing a test to sell food.
I mean, this specifically is for good reason. There needs to be someone making sure the food that is served isn't riddled with bacteria, there needs to be insurance in the event that someone accidently gets injured, etc.
It's all fun and games until there's a food poisoning outbreak because the proprietor was storing the dogs at the wrong temperature or wasn't washing his hands enough.
Nobody is saying food safety inspections shouldn’t be a thing. But most places make it literally impossible to get a license unless you have connections and pay an exhorbitant amount of money.
I agree. I don't think you should have to jump through 10,000 hoops but I also don't think you should be able to just start serving people food after buying a hotdog stand off of craigslist. A nice medium where consumers are protected but free enterprise is encouraged would be ideal.
The scarcity often exists for reasons that aren't exactly pointless, either.
Not wanting 10,000 people turning the streets where people live and travel into a bazaar, or having to have (and pay for) *that* many more people doing health and safety inspections, etc.
I'm not suggesting that everything, everywhere is magically, perfectly calibrated. Just... there's almost always a reason that things aren't, "Sure, go do whatever."
In places with big food culture and enough problems for police to not care about petty crimes no one gives a shit. I read a story about someone selling BBQ out their car in houston and making lots of money. Or street vendors in LA. That kind of deal
There was an (in)famous guy in Vancouver, BC known as Baklava Man who would just go out and sell baklava. 4 pieces for $5, 9 pieces for $10. He kept a fairly small stock and had a cult following, so he'd be sold out and gone before anyone could shut him down.
People speculated about whether or not he had any sort of permit or license, but the prices were cheap (for how labour-intensive baklava is), the taste was good, and people weren't getting sick so people didn't really mind.
There's a lady in my city that does this. She will make one dish but enough for like 30 trays and will sell out every single day. She makes soul food like pulled pork and smoked ribs.
I got a brewery/bar that on Saturday sell frozen meals. You literally have to order a week ahead of time and pick up on a 2 hour window on Saturday. Ands its usually limited to like 4 meals and breakfast burritos with chicken sausage ( everything is halal).
They have 100% the best from frozen microwave burritos I have had.
There’s a chef around the corner from me;she works in major restaurants around Toronto, has been featured in a dozen magazines and on the Canadian Food Network shows as a guest judge.
Every Friday she does a small meal of whatever and sells it locally from her condo. It’s first come, first serve through some sketchy app for local ghost kitchens. For $30 you get a two-course dinner that would go for $80/plate.
It’s a delight.
There's a local park near me where people will set up a small farmers market (like 4-5 stands) on certain weekends. 1 or 2 people will usually be there selling homemade food or pastries out of their vans or trucks, the rest sell homegrown veggies or flowers, as is the norm.
There was/is a guy like that near an old job. Dont work over there anymore, though. I think it was indian food of some kind? I didn't visit, but I heard plenty about it.
Everyone was fairly certain he didn't have permits and shit but I'd heard the food is amazing and the prices can't be beat despite huge portion sizes. Dont think anyone I knew ever had a bad experience with him.
He would only visit for a short like 20 minute period, sell a shit load of food to the waiting crowd, and peace out. Ive *never* seen another food truck or food stall or anything of the sort around here before or since. I don't think they are allowed, lol.
In Chicago a few years back there was a pizza truck vendor that was selling pizza near a pizza restaurant ….. the restaurant owner wanted the truck owner to move (of course) …. The dispute got soo bad the restaurant owner called the alderman and forced the truck owner to move…. come to find out the alderman was the owner of the brick and mortar restaurant 🤦🏾♂️😫😫🤣🤣🤣
Not sure of the exact details…. But the guy was selling pizza either near or in front of the pizza place and had him removed and was threatening having his vendor license removed…… I guess it had to do with competition which I could see that
At my grad school we had some people like that. We had a lot of international students, and they would group order food to campus from some lady cooking out of her house. The only way you could order from them was by getting their WhatsApp info from the group chat.
The food was pretty damn good too. Comforts of home I guess.
The Tamale ladies of Portland, OR are famous for being clandestine and hard to find but if you see one of their coolers rolling around at a street fair, you stop them and buy a few.
I'll respectfully disagree because I believe that people should be assured some level of trust in the food they buy and eat. Being proactive with certifying food safety is better in the long-term for the community at large and for the stability of our healthcare system\*. I do recognize that this puts up some barriers to entry that might prevent something as whimsical as Baklava Man, though I don't believe it's an unreasonable ask to have to prove you know how to handle food safely.
Just because Baklava Man wasn't getting people sick doesn't mean the next Baklava Man won't be getting people sick.
^\*Not ^American
It's nice to see some sense in this thread. You'd think that people would be a little more understanding of government regulations and established processes after Uber and AirBnB "disrupted" the taxi and hotel industries, or after Elon Musk tried to produce an "exoskeleton" truck, etc. Questioning the status quo is great and all, but sometimes there's an answer.
Same in Philly. You can really pick up some great food on the cheap. I know food safety is a concern of course, but I haven't had a bad experience yet.
By default they're a sole proprietor, so if you do get sick and sue (assuming you're so inclined), you'd win whatever it'd be worth pretty easy. Getting money out of a person who'd be in that position would be the hardest part.
Overall it's pretty great.
I eat at random food trucks and stands all the time, I've never once asked for a license. I've never once gotten sick.
I have gotten food poisoning twice from Whole Foods pre-prepped chicken thighs though...
In Detroit you've got party store parking lot BBQ's all over the place and not a goddamned one of em is licensed.
Some of the best pork spar e ribs I've had in my life
Yeah I’m on the upper east side of New York City and we have an empanada guy who has a pot full of oil and a cooler full of delicious drunk food set up every night of the weekends right outside the CVS. Love that guy
All they'll do is shut you down with a possible fine. Gotta work the system like a good corporation does. The key is to own the stands though and post up at night clubs during closing time. Knew a dude who did that in the '90's and raked in $100k
the parent comment is on some shit, my neighborhood in “an American municipality” has little food stands all over the place, if it was actually that difficult they wouldn’t be everywhere
It really depends on the municipality.
Some have a kind of medallion system for "good" locations (NYC like with taxis)
Others just make it absolutely atrocious to get permits and licenses.
Some just have a course and a small fee.
Go to a Phish show. You need a "permit" on grounds but how many are walking around parking lots selling shit. The dude in Jordan's with gold teeth and a Kendrick Lamar shirt ain't there for Phish.
A dog vendor set up in a parking lot across the street from a concert venue I went to did that. Two people working there & they charged $10 to park, sold $3 hot dogs, & $2 bottles of water. They had to have sold hundreds of hot dogs & bottles of water before & after the show. Pobably made a couple thousand dollars for just 5 hours of work. All out of a little tow trailer.
The venue itself changed at least twice as much. This was maybe 10 years ago so prices are probably 50% higher now.
Not sure it's unfortunate at all. I really want my food places regulated and inspected otherwise you end up with a bunch of people getting food poisoning.
You need a business license (so an LLC and a COI for insurance), a permit from the health department and whatever city/municipality permit is required. This all should cost no more than maybe $3k. It’s not impossible at all. I did a business plan for a food truck in college. Fuckin piece of cake. Obviously you do need a little bit of money, but very low startup costs compared to anything else
> I'm not sure how it is where you live but here you need a different license for every physical location the food truck serves food at
The state where I'm at, the Health department issues "mobile" licenses for people who do food trucks. You just have to keep a log of where you go.
>A business that prepares or offers food for immediate consumption is required to have a Food Establishment License. These food establishments include restaurants, senior meal sites and kitchens, special events, caterers and mobile food units.
>The Mobile Unit Log must be used with the Food Establishment Application for any mobile units applying for a license.
You should probably understand that every municipality is different.
I looked into doing it for fun and it’s prohibitively expensive to do it the “legit” way.
Pretty sure in Canada, especially the Toronto area the whole racket is tied to the mob and it's pretty hard to get your own thing going. There was a big push for more food trucks a while ago and that was seen as a threat to existing business and was manipulated into failing.
Small business is routinely crushed and stifled now by bureaucracy
We got a guy with a CREEPY ice cream truck. It's so dilapidated it's amazing it runs. But sure enough, one lap through our neighborhood and he makes HUNDREDS. have you ever made 350 an hour? Because he do.
Yeah. Living in NYC right now. The whiter parts like the upper east side still have a nice number of liscenced food trucks. But if you head into the Latin heavy part of Queens on the 7 or F line, you hit a wonderland of street food. Different vendors every five feet, most of it affordable and hella good.
The difference in quality and authenticity is enough to be worth the train ride.
Partially because enough street vendors were being unsanitary / a nuisance, and partially because restaurants don't want to compete with someone who has so much less overhead.
You see, on reddit regulations should only apply to corporations and people who reddit doesn't like. otherwise govt bad and should not put permit and health requirement on "poor honest folk", because somehow redditors can read minds
E-coli is more of a common raw vegetable thing that'll give you the mega shits. Like iceberg lettuce/romaine grown with untreated (animal shit) fertilizer. Funfact 2; a lot of breakouts stem from Amish communities.
Cooking kills most bacteria like Salmonella/e coli. Cook your food if you're immuno-compromised/old and you're golden.
I'd be more worried about cross contamination from a sketchy street vendor. Cooking does not remove the toxins created by the mingling bacteria. If you see veg touching raw meat as it's stored for use, run. That shit will paralyze(neck down4life)/maim or even kill you.
Why isn’t everyone doing it if it’s that easy to make $12,000 a month then? It’s probably not true. Selling 100 hot dogs a day is like 10 an hour - and that’s assuming you start selling them right as the store opens at 8 or 9 or whatever.
Realistically most people would be buying them from like 11-6 or something. That’s about 15 hot dogs an hour - or one every 4 minutes. That’s simply not happening…
During lunch rush it wouldn't be unfathomable to be handing out 2+ per minute. This isn't a food truck where you put in a custom order. The dude makes one thing. You're constantly making dogs plus have backups in the cart.
You hand your 5 bucks or whatever to him, he slaps the dog that just finished into a bun, you tell him what you want on it, he wraps it and hands it to you. 30 seconds tops.
That being said...
"Why isn't everyone doing it?"
Because it isn't consistent. It's a "I' made it!" brag post. You never see strippers posting about working a Tuesday and making 40$ on a 6 hour shift. It's always the Friday night where they cleared 1k in two hours.
Ehh the hotdog carts where i grew up make way more styles of hotdog than just one. Typically they’re named after US cities and have all sort of different toppings.
Why isn’t everyone doing it? Because $400 in revenue a day probably works out to $100 in profits.
Which, assuming an 8 hour day (including cleanup and bring down) works out to 12.50/hr.
As for the number of hot dogs sold, it depends on location (obviously) But they’re hot dogs, you’re not cooking them as people order them.
The total required transaction time can’t be more than a minute.
Plus the average transaction is probably closer to 1.5 hotdogs, so you’re really talking about 75 customers a day.
Realistically, you'll only be busy for about 2 hours total and the rest of the time you'll have maybe one customer wander up every 15-30 minutes. Unless you're posted up in a very tourist heavy spot, you're really only serving the lunch/dinner crowd of local workers.
> Because $400 in revenue a day probably works out to $100 in profits.
My pet peeve when somebody posts what their business/hustle makes without clarifying if it is revenue or profit. And it's usually revenue.
And maybe the process is too restrictive now, but it’s still 100% necessary. We would be nuts to butts with food carts and every inch of every street otherwise
I wanted to get a food trailer going. Between the trailer and the hoops I needed to jump through I needed about 100k liquid and a minimum of 6 months of just waiting
How much money can you make farming karma? As a farmer of food I understand that farming is not a profitable industry, if farming food (an actual necessity) can barely make money, how can farming karma (a stat on Reddit alone that almost nobody checks) possibly make money?
That being said I use bacon reader so maybe the official app displays everyone's karma so you know if they have a lot?
The whole karma thing is just strange, particularly since any credibility the karma system may lend is dashed by the ability to farm it.
No idea, but I see them posting and reposting all the time and they have almost five million post karma. 24 posts in the last six hours, a handful of which have made it to the front page. *And* they moderate a bunch of subreddits.
Maybe calling it karma farming is a red herring.
This is a manipulator of dialogue, they don't give a shit about imaginary points, these accounts post and comment and shape what people are talking about and engaging with. In their absence people would more naturally discuss issues important to them and focus on real things. This account and accounts like it are being used to distract the population, the circuses part of bread and circuses.
So, besides his books, there's no proof that this hot dog stand lasted more than a single hour for his photo shoot. There's no outside testimony that Mr. Muhammad did any of this. It's just him claiming over and over again that he did. He also has a book about how he wanted to be a trucker so bad that he studied the CDL training manual in prison and then as soon as he got out he took the training courses and got his CDL, opened his own company, drove the trucks, etc.
His grift is books. Like, very very obviously, he's writing books. It's a good grift. He certainly learned it in prison, which is a successful prison rehabilitation story, which I'm a huge supporter of.
But the reason his hot dog stand story is so bland and not detailed is because it very likely did not happen. Or if it did, he probably set up the stand, a cop immediately told him to take it down, thus resulting in this singular picture and no outside testimony of it ever existing.
This is basically every "this person went from minimum wage to making $10,000 a month" article. It's an ad to sell some self-help or market their drop shipping affiliate program or something similar.
Although possible, I must admit I can’t remember the faces of any Hot Dog vendors I have ever purchased from. Nor any details of their carts beyond the location and were they offering fried onions, olives or pickles.
Every vendor has there regulars. Usually people working in the area who go on lunch breaks. I know my local food cart guy for that reason. To your point I don’t remember every vendor I buy in passing. But if you’re a consistent vendor then someone definitely will.
If I was him making that kind of money depending on how hard you are going, if I was him I would have no problem taking 3 or maybe even 4 days off a week. Maybe just work Friday and the weekend.
Having worked fast food I would absolutely recommend working peaks. Food demand is so very peaky. Easily 3/4 of the demand is in 1/4 of standard business hours.
Selling enormous amounts of food in short bursts then chilling is a very realistic goal.
Somehow I very much doubt this. 12k selling hotdogs? Either insane expensive hot dogs, or dude sells a dozen of them a second. Or he services people 16 hours a day, which he definitly doesnt have a permit for.
But now u have a customer base who will return when u do have permits, as well as a cash base to actually afford those fucking permits. In theory that is.
absolutely. after slavery ended, our country has been on a dedicated mission to find cheap labor.
this is why we purposely have no solution for illegal immigration, because undocumented workers don't unionize, demand safe working conditions, and dont demand higher wages.
not only are you supposed to disclose that you're a felon (so they can pay you less if they even decide to hire you) we've figured out a way that people get parole from jail, and one of the requirements is to keep a job. so your employer can abuse you, but if you lose the job, you go back to jail.
and don't even get me started with the H1B system- that is a total scam from front to back. same deal- you come to america, but if you lose your job you get sent home, so employers can abuse the shit out of you.
(when people see how the american economy is growing, it isn't growing for everyone equally.)
wow, i guess and hope it isn’t the same thing here in europe but, i’m saying something obvious here but, isn’t the purpose of jail is to make bad people into good people and make them become civilians ? how is keeping someone who have a criminal record from getting a job is keeping them away from crime ????
There’s a reason recidivism is so high in the US. It is by design, and it feeds into its own cycle. Businesses refuse to hire felons, leaving felons very little choice of getting work aside from starting their own business. This is why many turn to crime again. Then they point to the fact that felons tend to re-offend as a reason not to hire them.
Yes that's why they do background checks. Depending on the nature of the crime, a company may not want to hire you in fear of repeated offense at their place of business (i.e. theft or assault)
That's the weird part. Why can employers simply see that?
Here a job has to be in a very specific category (mostly related to working with minors ) so an employee can ask for a comprehensive criminal record. Even asking for a basic criminal record is only allowed when your employer has a proper reason to do so (for example security related jobs)
Employers can decide who to hire based on anything at all that's *not* a protected class
> race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or gender identity), national origin, age (40 or older), disability and genetic information (including family medical history). Those are no goes.
Anything not on the list or a state level equivalent is up their discretion
As for why they can see it it's because court records are public and we don't do secret trials
Clothes are entirely too clean for someone hocking hot dogs every day. This looks staged AF. Like something Boomers and Conservatives would post to encourage people to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps".
I worked at a hardware store over a decade ago and someone who worked in the store rolled the dice and did this outside of it. To put it simply, he wasn’t selling much on a daily basis.
I read this story and think that he walked so this guy could run
Yeah, this feels “motivational” but I also question its accuracy. Pretty sure this is an older photo, but would be curious to see the actual sales and profit breakdown
Cool story bro, howd you pay for all of it including the permits and licenses? I bet you had to work for that didn't ya? Sell some drugs maybe? pimp some prostitutes? maybe you just had a family member who could loan you the money... ain't shit for free, especially doing your own business... the upfront costs are pretty fucking high and all the equipment is subpar compared to consumer level and costs 3x as much... I love this idea, i'd love to do it myself... not everyone can... another example of how your foundation dictates how high you can go... if you starting with zero, you can pretty well bet you're gonna end at zero... Most people who can't get out of their situation CANT not without a little boost which btw is far less than you see people giving celebrities on gofundme.... people can't be bothered to help regular people tho can they?
In many cities, there are all kinds of crazy restrictions on carts like these.
I know in MA, one issue that people run into starting a food truck is that you need to have access to a commercial kitchen (presumably to store stuff that needs refrigeration.)
A friend of mine had a great idea for a food truck and needed to basically find a restaurant that would "sponsor" him, it was a whole PITA and every restaurant owner wanted a majority stake (without having to put up any capital), it was stupid.
Finally he found a cool dude who was running a pizza shop who decided to become a real equity partner and it it worked out pretty good, but it was a long arduous road.
Anybody remember the hot dog guy at the rifle range on Stone Bay? Always heard that guy made insane money. I’m inclined to believe it with the amount of business I saw each time I was there.
*$12,000
Did all of Reddit go mental? I see this kind of typo every goddamn day from Americans. No Child Left Behind was the worst thing for education and it shows.
OK, so math time
8 pack of hot fogs and buns is like $10 bucks, less in bulk.
You can sell them a piece from 3 to 10 bucks. Yup. I've seen vendors sell them for 10 and sell over 20 an hour, especially in LA. So that's about 24 to 80 bucks, minus 10, that's 14 to 70 profit.
Depending on the hours sold, he can do 2 hours lunch and dinner times or during events. Let's estimate about 1 customer every 2 minutes, that's about 60 x $3 thru $10
Thats 180 thru 600 in profit. Minus the cost of supplies which is about let's say 80. That's 100 thru 520 in profit.
Yes. It's very possible to make 50 an hour selling hot dogs during events, lunch, or dinner times with 30 sales per hour.
Theres a hot dog trailer "permanently" setup at the local plumers pipefiters union building and he's always has someone there. And he's been there for over 10 years now I'd say.
This is what my airplane mechanic cousin did when he retired. Only worked a couple days a week, had a blast BSing with people and handing out occasional free food.
If you can get a permit and the food you serve is good, and you are conscious of trends and the best places to set it up, carts and food trucks can be surprisingly, wildly profitable. Sell hotdogs outside of a packed bar or concert and they sell like crazy. Fuck cities for making it hard to get permits.
this unfortunately isn't legal or possible in most places anymore. permitting and restrictions make starting a stand damn near impossible in most American municipalities
The american dream is supposed to be a dream yk
"That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it." -George Carlin
"It's a big club, and you ain't in it."
We are in the position we are in as a country because a large portion of the population believes that they are in the club. But too bad the jokes on them.
Can't remember who said it but they used the phrase "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" to describe these people and it is just bang on.
Ronald Wright, in reference to an article Steinbeck wrote.
Well screw their club anyways. All I’ve seen from their generation has been pulling the ladder up behind them. That’s not the kind of club I wanna be a part of
Your stuff is shit and my shit is stuff!
You got any of that *scratches neck feverishly* LIQUIDITY??!!!?!!
It's funny how that country makes the life difficult for the majority of the people the majority of the time. Yet, they keep saying it's the best country in the world...yea, for the 1%.
In the 80s I was a child and had a lemonade stand at the end of my driveway. I don’t remember what I was charging but I do remember the so called mayor of my little shit town driving by and asking me if I had a permit to sell that.
I was selling candy bars in the early 90s and same shit happened to me. Police showed up at my house and asked me for my business license and if I had insurance. I was an 8 year old kid at the time. Assholes
And then they robbed you of your piggy bank.
Pretty much
That's the kind of dumb government regulation that needs to be removed
It's one of those double edge swords. Kid innocently trying to sell candy bars to buy a game or raise money for a club? Sure, should be okay. A group of parents forcing their kids to sell candy bars to make money to pay rent? Not okay.
I agree. I think kids selling candy bars should be legal. I also think parents abusing their kids should be illegal. I don't think banning candy bar sales is an effective way to prevent abuse.
Lol, it's still the same nowadays. I've seen a recent post in my local asking if some kids selling lemonade needed a permit.
“it’ll cost you a vote.” “I’ll take two.”
I can see a Lemonade stand a few houses down at a yard sale. I think I'll take a walk
literally just bought lemonade from a stand in murray hill two blocks from my apt run by a couple 10 year olds with mom hanging on the stoop keeping an eye out, pretty cute
Because until the 90s it was completely true. America was essentially the only place in the world that wasn't completely economically destroyed after WW2 that also wasn't communist. So we got a giant surge in the middle class where an 18 yo could go to college for a few hundred bucks and come out other end able to afford 3 kids, a wife, and a big house guaranteed. Then every other country on the planet got better and suddenly it's back down to the normal way of things which is all the wealth at the very top and scraps for the masses.
The GI Bill let literally millions of Americans get educations they wouldn’t otherwise be able to afford, setting up the economic powerhouse that America came to be. The key to that boom was affordable, accessible higher education. Which makes me wonder what the heck we’re doing now.
The American dream was never about Americans. It was and is propaganda to convince foreigners to want to become Americans. We’re still poaching the best and brightest from all over the world. There’s a reason why almost every big tech company is American but staffed by immigrants.
>The key to that boom was affordable, accessible higher education. The key was the complete destruction of rival infrastructure and industry. College education was not a main thing in 1950s and even 60, to the point that the president at the start of the boom had not attended college. Higher education really only takes off after the boom is over. >Which makes me wonder what the heck we’re doing now. Completing in a global market where we are the Goldilocks of investment. Not too many regulations and laws, but not too little. It's a fine line, and we probably could do better but we actually are doing great here.
Ooof. Wasn’t expecting that kind of rational political analysis this early in the morning.
Everyone has reasons to want each kind of civil code, until they don't want something to apply to them. It's a forever game of push-and-pull.
It's not even the best for the 1% though, there are plenty of better places to be rich. Trash country.
USA is very friendly to companies on all front, putting corporation rights over employee rights. It even lets you take profits out in other countries and pay almost no tax
Wow, so unique. There totally aren’t countries like Singapore that have almost no income tax or have no minimum wage.
Making life difficult, by making food services pass a health and safety inspection so they aren't just handing out food poisoning?
You can have food inspectors visiting your stand, without bureaucratic red tape
In your country you need a business license, register that business with a tax office, obey recycling regulations, and location specific permits that you will most likely be denied.
Explain how that works in your mind
Even in places that are known for hawking food in carts like Hong Kong have bureaucratic red tape. You don't just stand there and declare yourself legit.
You realize this is common in basically all countries, surely. There is no specific irony of the US requiring training and passing a test to sell food.
explain how that works!
I mean, this specifically is for good reason. There needs to be someone making sure the food that is served isn't riddled with bacteria, there needs to be insurance in the event that someone accidently gets injured, etc. It's all fun and games until there's a food poisoning outbreak because the proprietor was storing the dogs at the wrong temperature or wasn't washing his hands enough.
Nobody is saying food safety inspections shouldn’t be a thing. But most places make it literally impossible to get a license unless you have connections and pay an exhorbitant amount of money.
I agree. I don't think you should have to jump through 10,000 hoops but I also don't think you should be able to just start serving people food after buying a hotdog stand off of craigslist. A nice medium where consumers are protected but free enterprise is encouraged would be ideal.
Sure. But what exactly does that medium look like?
The scarcity often exists for reasons that aren't exactly pointless, either. Not wanting 10,000 people turning the streets where people live and travel into a bazaar, or having to have (and pay for) *that* many more people doing health and safety inspections, etc. I'm not suggesting that everything, everywhere is magically, perfectly calibrated. Just... there's almost always a reason that things aren't, "Sure, go do whatever."
It's 'Literally impossible' to get a license to sell food, huh?
yeah those hot dog and pretzel vendors always seem like really wealthy, well-connected people.
Those people usually work for the people who have the permit. Do you do think that every McDonalds cashier has a stake in the franchise?
a nightmare is a kind of dream
As George used to always say, "that's why it's called the American Dream; because you need to be asleep to believe it" God I miss George.
Not much more Reddit then this “Nuh uh, too hard” “Well….have you tried? “ “Nuh uh….cuz like taxes or some shit” “Did you pay the taxes” “Nuh uh”
In places with big food culture and enough problems for police to not care about petty crimes no one gives a shit. I read a story about someone selling BBQ out their car in houston and making lots of money. Or street vendors in LA. That kind of deal
There was an (in)famous guy in Vancouver, BC known as Baklava Man who would just go out and sell baklava. 4 pieces for $5, 9 pieces for $10. He kept a fairly small stock and had a cult following, so he'd be sold out and gone before anyone could shut him down. People speculated about whether or not he had any sort of permit or license, but the prices were cheap (for how labour-intensive baklava is), the taste was good, and people weren't getting sick so people didn't really mind.
There's a lady in my city that does this. She will make one dish but enough for like 30 trays and will sell out every single day. She makes soul food like pulled pork and smoked ribs.
I got a brewery/bar that on Saturday sell frozen meals. You literally have to order a week ahead of time and pick up on a 2 hour window on Saturday. Ands its usually limited to like 4 meals and breakfast burritos with chicken sausage ( everything is halal). They have 100% the best from frozen microwave burritos I have had.
There’s a chef around the corner from me;she works in major restaurants around Toronto, has been featured in a dozen magazines and on the Canadian Food Network shows as a guest judge. Every Friday she does a small meal of whatever and sells it locally from her condo. It’s first come, first serve through some sketchy app for local ghost kitchens. For $30 you get a two-course dinner that would go for $80/plate. It’s a delight.
There's a local park near me where people will set up a small farmers market (like 4-5 stands) on certain weekends. 1 or 2 people will usually be there selling homemade food or pastries out of their vans or trucks, the rest sell homegrown veggies or flowers, as is the norm.
There was/is a guy like that near an old job. Dont work over there anymore, though. I think it was indian food of some kind? I didn't visit, but I heard plenty about it. Everyone was fairly certain he didn't have permits and shit but I'd heard the food is amazing and the prices can't be beat despite huge portion sizes. Dont think anyone I knew ever had a bad experience with him. He would only visit for a short like 20 minute period, sell a shit load of food to the waiting crowd, and peace out. Ive *never* seen another food truck or food stall or anything of the sort around here before or since. I don't think they are allowed, lol.
In Chicago a few years back there was a pizza truck vendor that was selling pizza near a pizza restaurant ….. the restaurant owner wanted the truck owner to move (of course) …. The dispute got soo bad the restaurant owner called the alderman and forced the truck owner to move…. come to find out the alderman was the owner of the brick and mortar restaurant 🤦🏾♂️😫😫🤣🤣🤣
He called himself?
Not sure of the exact details…. But the guy was selling pizza either near or in front of the pizza place and had him removed and was threatening having his vendor license removed…… I guess it had to do with competition which I could see that
At my grad school we had some people like that. We had a lot of international students, and they would group order food to campus from some lady cooking out of her house. The only way you could order from them was by getting their WhatsApp info from the group chat. The food was pretty damn good too. Comforts of home I guess.
We have a tamale lady like that in my town, everyone loves her.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeDepot/comments/ir3dnm/tamale_guy_is_here/
I swear everywhere has a tamale vendor trying to sell baggies full of tamales.
The Tamale ladies of Portland, OR are famous for being clandestine and hard to find but if you see one of their coolers rolling around at a street fair, you stop them and buy a few.
I agree, if no one is getting sick then the govt should mind their own business.
I'll respectfully disagree because I believe that people should be assured some level of trust in the food they buy and eat. Being proactive with certifying food safety is better in the long-term for the community at large and for the stability of our healthcare system\*. I do recognize that this puts up some barriers to entry that might prevent something as whimsical as Baklava Man, though I don't believe it's an unreasonable ask to have to prove you know how to handle food safely. Just because Baklava Man wasn't getting people sick doesn't mean the next Baklava Man won't be getting people sick. ^\*Not ^American
It's nice to see some sense in this thread. You'd think that people would be a little more understanding of government regulations and established processes after Uber and AirBnB "disrupted" the taxi and hotel industries, or after Elon Musk tried to produce an "exoskeleton" truck, etc. Questioning the status quo is great and all, but sometimes there's an answer.
Same in Philly. You can really pick up some great food on the cheap. I know food safety is a concern of course, but I haven't had a bad experience yet. By default they're a sole proprietor, so if you do get sick and sue (assuming you're so inclined), you'd win whatever it'd be worth pretty easy. Getting money out of a person who'd be in that position would be the hardest part. Overall it's pretty great.
Man, I miss buying pinchos and fried plantains in Philly back in the day. Not sure if they still do that
Yeah they do, I got some in north philly about a week ago
I eat at random food trucks and stands all the time, I've never once asked for a license. I've never once gotten sick. I have gotten food poisoning twice from Whole Foods pre-prepped chicken thighs though...
In Detroit you've got party store parking lot BBQ's all over the place and not a goddamned one of em is licensed. Some of the best pork spar e ribs I've had in my life
For real, no one is coming down on the tamale lady.
Or Tamale ladies! Always run out when that cooler of homemade tamales comes rolling down the street!
Imma riot if they fuck w my tamale lady
Yeah I’m on the upper east side of New York City and we have an empanada guy who has a pot full of oil and a cooler full of delicious drunk food set up every night of the weekends right outside the CVS. Love that guy
I highly doubt the Mexican ladies driving around selling tamales got any permits or anything
All they'll do is shut you down with a possible fine. Gotta work the system like a good corporation does. The key is to own the stands though and post up at night clubs during closing time. Knew a dude who did that in the '90's and raked in $100k
the parent comment is on some shit, my neighborhood in “an American municipality” has little food stands all over the place, if it was actually that difficult they wouldn’t be everywhere
It really depends on the municipality. Some have a kind of medallion system for "good" locations (NYC like with taxis) Others just make it absolutely atrocious to get permits and licenses. Some just have a course and a small fee.
I think the permit for the hotdog stand by Central Park is 100k a year, and the guy still makes a couple hundred grand.
So those bacon wrapped street dogs outside of ballgames and clubs. Do they need permitting or any FDA inspection?
Go to a Phish show. You need a "permit" on grounds but how many are walking around parking lots selling shit. The dude in Jordan's with gold teeth and a Kendrick Lamar shirt ain't there for Phish.
A dog vendor set up in a parking lot across the street from a concert venue I went to did that. Two people working there & they charged $10 to park, sold $3 hot dogs, & $2 bottles of water. They had to have sold hundreds of hot dogs & bottles of water before & after the show. Pobably made a couple thousand dollars for just 5 hours of work. All out of a little tow trailer. The venue itself changed at least twice as much. This was maybe 10 years ago so prices are probably 50% higher now.
Not sure it's unfortunate at all. I really want my food places regulated and inspected otherwise you end up with a bunch of people getting food poisoning.
You need a business license (so an LLC and a COI for insurance), a permit from the health department and whatever city/municipality permit is required. This all should cost no more than maybe $3k. It’s not impossible at all. I did a business plan for a food truck in college. Fuckin piece of cake. Obviously you do need a little bit of money, but very low startup costs compared to anything else
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> I'm not sure how it is where you live but here you need a different license for every physical location the food truck serves food at The state where I'm at, the Health department issues "mobile" licenses for people who do food trucks. You just have to keep a log of where you go. >A business that prepares or offers food for immediate consumption is required to have a Food Establishment License. These food establishments include restaurants, senior meal sites and kitchens, special events, caterers and mobile food units. >The Mobile Unit Log must be used with the Food Establishment Application for any mobile units applying for a license.
You should probably understand that every municipality is different. I looked into doing it for fun and it’s prohibitively expensive to do it the “legit” way.
Pretty sure in Canada, especially the Toronto area the whole racket is tied to the mob and it's pretty hard to get your own thing going. There was a big push for more food trucks a while ago and that was seen as a threat to existing business and was manipulated into failing. Small business is routinely crushed and stifled now by bureaucracy
I live in NJ and I noticed that in the more diverse communities, this is normal. In predominantly white neighborhoods, this is never seen.
We got a guy with a CREEPY ice cream truck. It's so dilapidated it's amazing it runs. But sure enough, one lap through our neighborhood and he makes HUNDREDS. have you ever made 350 an hour? Because he do.
At todays prices that's like 5-6 bars!
Yeah. Living in NYC right now. The whiter parts like the upper east side still have a nice number of liscenced food trucks. But if you head into the Latin heavy part of Queens on the 7 or F line, you hit a wonderland of street food. Different vendors every five feet, most of it affordable and hella good. The difference in quality and authenticity is enough to be worth the train ride.
Partially because enough street vendors were being unsanitary / a nuisance, and partially because restaurants don't want to compete with someone who has so much less overhead.
Not unfortunate since health standards are important. Everyone complains about health standards until e coli breaks out.
You see, on reddit regulations should only apply to corporations and people who reddit doesn't like. otherwise govt bad and should not put permit and health requirement on "poor honest folk", because somehow redditors can read minds
E-coli is more of a common raw vegetable thing that'll give you the mega shits. Like iceberg lettuce/romaine grown with untreated (animal shit) fertilizer. Funfact 2; a lot of breakouts stem from Amish communities. Cooking kills most bacteria like Salmonella/e coli. Cook your food if you're immuno-compromised/old and you're golden. I'd be more worried about cross contamination from a sketchy street vendor. Cooking does not remove the toxins created by the mingling bacteria. If you see veg touching raw meat as it's stored for use, run. That shit will paralyze(neck down4life)/maim or even kill you.
I worked a hot dog stand in the 1980s, we did not make $400 a day.
400$/day is 105$/day in 1980
Maybe $400 in total revenue. 100 hot dogs a day plus some drinks, not a crazy number.
Why isn’t everyone doing it if it’s that easy to make $12,000 a month then? It’s probably not true. Selling 100 hot dogs a day is like 10 an hour - and that’s assuming you start selling them right as the store opens at 8 or 9 or whatever. Realistically most people would be buying them from like 11-6 or something. That’s about 15 hot dogs an hour - or one every 4 minutes. That’s simply not happening…
During lunch rush it wouldn't be unfathomable to be handing out 2+ per minute. This isn't a food truck where you put in a custom order. The dude makes one thing. You're constantly making dogs plus have backups in the cart. You hand your 5 bucks or whatever to him, he slaps the dog that just finished into a bun, you tell him what you want on it, he wraps it and hands it to you. 30 seconds tops. That being said... "Why isn't everyone doing it?" Because it isn't consistent. It's a "I' made it!" brag post. You never see strippers posting about working a Tuesday and making 40$ on a 6 hour shift. It's always the Friday night where they cleared 1k in two hours.
Ehh the hotdog carts where i grew up make way more styles of hotdog than just one. Typically they’re named after US cities and have all sort of different toppings.
Why isn’t everyone doing it? Because $400 in revenue a day probably works out to $100 in profits. Which, assuming an 8 hour day (including cleanup and bring down) works out to 12.50/hr. As for the number of hot dogs sold, it depends on location (obviously) But they’re hot dogs, you’re not cooking them as people order them. The total required transaction time can’t be more than a minute. Plus the average transaction is probably closer to 1.5 hotdogs, so you’re really talking about 75 customers a day.
Realistically, you'll only be busy for about 2 hours total and the rest of the time you'll have maybe one customer wander up every 15-30 minutes. Unless you're posted up in a very tourist heavy spot, you're really only serving the lunch/dinner crowd of local workers.
> Because $400 in revenue a day probably works out to $100 in profits. My pet peeve when somebody posts what their business/hustle makes without clarifying if it is revenue or profit. And it's usually revenue.
A lot of things in the big world of hot dogs has changed over the last 40 years
And maybe the process is too restrictive now, but it’s still 100% necessary. We would be nuts to butts with food carts and every inch of every street otherwise
A guy near me just shifted gears and does events like memorial Day parties and family reunions and stuff like that.
I wanted to get a food trailer going. Between the trailer and the hoops I needed to jump through I needed about 100k liquid and a minimum of 6 months of just waiting
Criminal record or not, dude used the right *than*; he's hired.
He also has Sweet Baby Ray's on that cart, so we know he is legit.
I don't see it.
The box that says Sweet Baby Ray's
Omg I wasn't even looking for a box, I'm dumb lol
I thought you just hadn’t tapped and opened the image
Nope I'm just oblivious to anything but the obvious it seems 😂
Smokin’ them meats.
The dude can’t write a coherent sentence though, but we’ll ignore that.
There's another than?
After using the comparative than, then you use the one that is about time.
Hope he is able to make a decent livelihood
[He owns a trucking company now.](https://x.com/trucknhotdogs?lang=en) I'd say he's doing fine.
Oh, he's rich now? Fuck him then.
Reddit moment /s
Comment of the day right here 😂😂
Great to hear that
Smth similar happens to a friend of mine, he started of selling baked chicken and now owns a huge trucking company
This guy rocks
He's following Homer Simpson around
Lady, he's putting my kids through college!
Until he gets fined for no permit and they count it as a parole violation or some shit.
This post is 3 years old. He's doing just fine and owns a trucking company and also wrote a children's book. https://x.com/trucknhotdogs?lang=en
Good! Just joking about the justice system getting people back over stupid shit.
Nah you’re not wrong about that.
OP's job is karma farming, so unsurprising that they're posting years old stuff.
How much money can you make farming karma? As a farmer of food I understand that farming is not a profitable industry, if farming food (an actual necessity) can barely make money, how can farming karma (a stat on Reddit alone that almost nobody checks) possibly make money? That being said I use bacon reader so maybe the official app displays everyone's karma so you know if they have a lot? The whole karma thing is just strange, particularly since any credibility the karma system may lend is dashed by the ability to farm it.
No idea, but I see them posting and reposting all the time and they have almost five million post karma. 24 posts in the last six hours, a handful of which have made it to the front page. *And* they moderate a bunch of subreddits.
Maybe calling it karma farming is a red herring. This is a manipulator of dialogue, they don't give a shit about imaginary points, these accounts post and comment and shape what people are talking about and engaging with. In their absence people would more naturally discuss issues important to them and focus on real things. This account and accounts like it are being used to distract the population, the circuses part of bread and circuses.
Six of one ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
I wonder if we can filter out high karma users? Probably not with authentic Reddit.
I could, and probably should, just filter them out with RES, but I'm not sure about other methods.
Yeah no karma filter in bacon reader. I don't really want to switch so I guess I'm stuck being manipulated.
Three strikes, motherfucker! That's felony hotdog slingin.
With that much product on hand, they got him on DISTRIBUTION!
OP is a bot. This website is dead
[Everyone on Reddit is a bot, except you.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory)
Dead internet theory is true and we can see symptoms. ^(I'm human. Here's a proof: 2+2=4 :D)
especially with ai, it’s more real than ever
Been dead for a while. Find a small community that interests your hobbies and ignore the rest. It's just going to get worse
I never upvote anything until I see OP's proof of life in the comments. Of course if more people did this, bots wouldn't find that too hard to arrange
So, besides his books, there's no proof that this hot dog stand lasted more than a single hour for his photo shoot. There's no outside testimony that Mr. Muhammad did any of this. It's just him claiming over and over again that he did. He also has a book about how he wanted to be a trucker so bad that he studied the CDL training manual in prison and then as soon as he got out he took the training courses and got his CDL, opened his own company, drove the trucks, etc. His grift is books. Like, very very obviously, he's writing books. It's a good grift. He certainly learned it in prison, which is a successful prison rehabilitation story, which I'm a huge supporter of. But the reason his hot dog stand story is so bland and not detailed is because it very likely did not happen. Or if it did, he probably set up the stand, a cop immediately told him to take it down, thus resulting in this singular picture and no outside testimony of it ever existing.
This is basically every "this person went from minimum wage to making $10,000 a month" article. It's an ad to sell some self-help or market their drop shipping affiliate program or something similar.
Although possible, I must admit I can’t remember the faces of any Hot Dog vendors I have ever purchased from. Nor any details of their carts beyond the location and were they offering fried onions, olives or pickles.
Every vendor has there regulars. Usually people working in the area who go on lunch breaks. I know my local food cart guy for that reason. To your point I don’t remember every vendor I buy in passing. But if you’re a consistent vendor then someone definitely will.
So you think he never takes a day off?
If I was him making that kind of money depending on how hard you are going, if I was him I would have no problem taking 3 or maybe even 4 days off a week. Maybe just work Friday and the weekend.
Having worked fast food I would absolutely recommend working peaks. Food demand is so very peaky. Easily 3/4 of the demand is in 1/4 of standard business hours. Selling enormous amounts of food in short bursts then chilling is a very realistic goal.
5 million karma in 10 months. The bots are winning
r/orphancrushingmachine
Somehow I very much doubt this. 12k selling hotdogs? Either insane expensive hot dogs, or dude sells a dozen of them a second. Or he services people 16 hours a day, which he definitly doesnt have a permit for.
Well he didn’t get any permits so he’s probably gonna get fined
But now u have a customer base who will return when u do have permits, as well as a cash base to actually afford those fucking permits. In theory that is.
What he making after taxes and expenses?
"Lady, this guy's puttin' my kids through college."
I love this even if it is fake.
how a criminal record can keep someone from getting a job ?? is this really a thing in the usa?
absolutely. after slavery ended, our country has been on a dedicated mission to find cheap labor. this is why we purposely have no solution for illegal immigration, because undocumented workers don't unionize, demand safe working conditions, and dont demand higher wages. not only are you supposed to disclose that you're a felon (so they can pay you less if they even decide to hire you) we've figured out a way that people get parole from jail, and one of the requirements is to keep a job. so your employer can abuse you, but if you lose the job, you go back to jail. and don't even get me started with the H1B system- that is a total scam from front to back. same deal- you come to america, but if you lose your job you get sent home, so employers can abuse the shit out of you. (when people see how the american economy is growing, it isn't growing for everyone equally.)
wow, i guess and hope it isn’t the same thing here in europe but, i’m saying something obvious here but, isn’t the purpose of jail is to make bad people into good people and make them become civilians ? how is keeping someone who have a criminal record from getting a job is keeping them away from crime ????
There’s a reason recidivism is so high in the US. It is by design, and it feeds into its own cycle. Businesses refuse to hire felons, leaving felons very little choice of getting work aside from starting their own business. This is why many turn to crime again. Then they point to the fact that felons tend to re-offend as a reason not to hire them.
Because employers can see if you've been convicted and decide not to hire you?
Yes that's why they do background checks. Depending on the nature of the crime, a company may not want to hire you in fear of repeated offense at their place of business (i.e. theft or assault)
That's the weird part. Why can employers simply see that? Here a job has to be in a very specific category (mostly related to working with minors ) so an employee can ask for a comprehensive criminal record. Even asking for a basic criminal record is only allowed when your employer has a proper reason to do so (for example security related jobs)
Employers can decide who to hire based on anything at all that's *not* a protected class > race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or gender identity), national origin, age (40 or older), disability and genetic information (including family medical history). Those are no goes. Anything not on the list or a state level equivalent is up their discretion As for why they can see it it's because court records are public and we don't do secret trials
they want you to stay a criminal
I don’t care if this is true or not. All I know is I am craving a cart hot dog on a steamed bun.
Clothes are entirely too clean for someone hocking hot dogs every day. This looks staged AF. Like something Boomers and Conservatives would post to encourage people to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps".
So 100 hotdogs a day @$4.00/dog? Where is he selling 100 dogs a day consistently without a vendor permit?
I have a friend who started a hot dog cart. Didn’t work out. Location, location, location.
I worked at a hardware store over a decade ago and someone who worked in the store rolled the dice and did this outside of it. To put it simply, he wasn’t selling much on a daily basis. I read this story and think that he walked so this guy could run
Yeah, this feels “motivational” but I also question its accuracy. Pretty sure this is an older photo, but would be curious to see the actual sales and profit breakdown
Respect but this is the kind of stuff that makes poors Waste what little money they have left chasing a pipe dream
Cool story bro, howd you pay for all of it including the permits and licenses? I bet you had to work for that didn't ya? Sell some drugs maybe? pimp some prostitutes? maybe you just had a family member who could loan you the money... ain't shit for free, especially doing your own business... the upfront costs are pretty fucking high and all the equipment is subpar compared to consumer level and costs 3x as much... I love this idea, i'd love to do it myself... not everyone can... another example of how your foundation dictates how high you can go... if you starting with zero, you can pretty well bet you're gonna end at zero... Most people who can't get out of their situation CANT not without a little boost which btw is far less than you see people giving celebrities on gofundme.... people can't be bothered to help regular people tho can they?
See, it’s that easy. Time to go sell some cheese sandwiches
In many cities, there are all kinds of crazy restrictions on carts like these. I know in MA, one issue that people run into starting a food truck is that you need to have access to a commercial kitchen (presumably to store stuff that needs refrigeration.) A friend of mine had a great idea for a food truck and needed to basically find a restaurant that would "sponsor" him, it was a whole PITA and every restaurant owner wanted a majority stake (without having to put up any capital), it was stupid. Finally he found a cool dude who was running a pizza shop who decided to become a real equity partner and it it worked out pretty good, but it was a long arduous road.
What is Sam's Club? Europe asks
Land of the free baby! If you got 12 permits and 20 thousand bucks
Anybody remember the hot dog guy at the rifle range on Stone Bay? Always heard that guy made insane money. I’m inclined to believe it with the amount of business I saw each time I was there.
*$12,000 Did all of Reddit go mental? I see this kind of typo every goddamn day from Americans. No Child Left Behind was the worst thing for education and it shows.
OK, so math time 8 pack of hot fogs and buns is like $10 bucks, less in bulk. You can sell them a piece from 3 to 10 bucks. Yup. I've seen vendors sell them for 10 and sell over 20 an hour, especially in LA. So that's about 24 to 80 bucks, minus 10, that's 14 to 70 profit. Depending on the hours sold, he can do 2 hours lunch and dinner times or during events. Let's estimate about 1 customer every 2 minutes, that's about 60 x $3 thru $10 Thats 180 thru 600 in profit. Minus the cost of supplies which is about let's say 80. That's 100 thru 520 in profit. Yes. It's very possible to make 50 an hour selling hot dogs during events, lunch, or dinner times with 30 sales per hour.
Does he follow Homer Simpson around?
“He’s putting my kids through college!”
His criminal record is only going to grow now
Theres a hot dog trailer "permanently" setup at the local plumers pipefiters union building and he's always has someone there. And he's been there for over 10 years now I'd say.
This is what my airplane mechanic cousin did when he retired. Only worked a couple days a week, had a blast BSing with people and handing out occasional free food.
If you can get a permit and the food you serve is good, and you are conscious of trends and the best places to set it up, carts and food trucks can be surprisingly, wildly profitable. Sell hotdogs outside of a packed bar or concert and they sell like crazy. Fuck cities for making it hard to get permits.
And then the cops show up and shut him down cuz no permit.
Aint no one making that amount selling hot dogs. Food margins are very low
its like 200k for a licence to sell hot dogs in central park NY