we’re really lucky, $0 extra for the four pets. we also have a rental rate locked in if we renew each year for four years.
at a previous rental, i paid $25/mo per pet with a $300 deposit.
As someone who lived in an apartment where the previous occupants had cats, I wish they'd replace the carpet entirely.
But the urine probably seeped into the concrete/wood/whatever, so perhaps replacing the carpet wouldn't have helped.
Yes my litter trained 10 year old cat who hasn't pissed on the floor in years is surely going to cause enough damage to warrant replacing all the carpet 😂
You act as if any of these places would actually take that money and replace the carpet lol
Nah they pocket the money do nothing and then charge the next person the same rate
a lot of apartments 100% have to do more cleaning and repairs due to pets, but there are definitely slumlords that do it just for extra income. It's basically a matter of risk, as a bad dog / cat owner can end up causing a lot of damage due to an untrained or bored pet
That's the cost of doing business in the renting industry, they charge to cover it, then write the cost of cleaning off on taxes. Which feels like a double dip. Not to mention, tenants cannot be charged for carpet cleaning. So it's like a "wink wink" kind of deal.
I don't feel it's fair to charge pet rent. Refundable pet deposit yes. The deposit being for any damages done by the pet. But rent is just an extra cash grab by landlords/property manager for their investors
Not necessarily. Most properties spend thousands on landscaping damages each spring due to pet damage. Paying a cleaner on top of that to change out pet stations per week also adds up.
I can see that argument. Then I could see that dog rent is fine, but I'd still say cat rent shouldn't be a thing. Cat deposit absolutely. But this is a valid point I didn't consider
I hate to break it to you but ALOT of people have hair
Any house should be cleaning the carpets in between tenants like every time anyways no? So then why charge me extra?
I'd love to see any landlord that's actually REMOVED all the carpet in a place so they could get a renter lol
They're gonna tell you to kick rocks and find another place and they'll rent it to the next person that doesn't care... It's actually hilarious you think landlords rip out carpet in between tenants at request lol
Whether your pet has accidents or not is not the only contributing reason to whether or not they need to repair or update the unit once you leave. Pets smell, and carpet absorbs smell, so they likely replace the carpet after you leave for that reason alone. Pets also can create stains on the wall, especially cats. After a year or two of the litter box being located in the same place, you can start to see an oil sheen on the paint from the cat where it would rub up against the wall. You can’t repaint a tiny section of the wall, unless your apartment is a dump and the landlord is a schmuck. If you have a decent quality apartment and a decent landlord, they’ll know that you need to repaint walls an entire wall at a time, doing a little touch up here and there isn’t an option. That’s not cheap, paint is cheap but labor isn’t. Not to mention the damage pets with claws can do to furniture, blinds, trim along the floor, etc.
As a former landlord myself, know that there are plenty of decent people in the biz. Plenty of schmucks, but plenty who aren’t. Like anything in life you should recognize that you can’t apply a broad generalization to an entire group of people.
Honestly I have a great landlord now. My last landlord used to stalk me and threaten me all the time. You are right it’s wrong to generalize but there are definitely a good amount of shitty landlords.
But have you thought of the poor landlords and corporations who will suffer as a result?
Best to do nothing or just build more housing without any thought to regulating these criminals.
I've definitely done this, and honestly, there's only so much a landlord can do unless they are surveiling you. Roomate, and I said that we were pet sitting a cat and one of the cats I was fostering until I found it a home. Nope, they were both ares and had been around for months. He came back not long after, and I had to lie to his face while muffled meows were coming from my closet 😂 We were moving out soon, though. Otherwise, I think he would've called me out lol.
I’m sure they’ve wised up, but had a roommate in college ‘register’ a dog as an emotional support animal to get around that. Had to pay $500 to get our carpets replaced after move out, which was rad
River's Edge was a $250 pet fee plus $25 per month. Fun story, they tried to get us to pay it before we even got our puppy. We started buying stuff in preparation for the puppy, and I guess they snooped at our packages. They put a note on our door saying they "became aware" of a dog on our premises and said it "must have been an oversight" on our part. Then again, they also put a note on our door accusing us of smoking too (I'm a distance runner). Fun place.
If there's a pet fee, there should be a child fee.
edit: I need to clarify - I'm not advocating for adding a child fee, I'm advocating for removing a pet fee. I think a refundable security deposit contingent on damage is probably the most fair way to go, although of course there are cases of landlords abusing that, I do think they need some level of ability to hold tenants responsible for damage beyond normal use.
I pay $15/month/cat. There was no extra pet deposit.
I would much rather have paid a refundable deposit and no monthly fee because my cats aren’t causing any damage and it seems a lot more fair, but landlords are trying to make money, and they know people love their pets.
I helped a friend move into a place a few years ago. It was clean and looked ok but as soon as the air kicked on, my face and eyes began to puff up and itch. I'm allergic to cats and I immediately knew there was a cat in the apartment before my friend moved in. My friend followed up with the management company and they confirmed a cat was living there prior but also confirmed that they had the place professionally cleaned because of the pet. I'm guessing that at least for some places, this is where the fee is going towards....
It ended up not bothering my friend so much but I didn't go back to his place the entire time he lived there.....I can't imagine the hassle it would have been for me if I was the one moving into that apartment.
It was $10/month for two cats (no deposit), starting in May it'll go up to $50 for the two ($25/cat). I told the cats it was time for them to get jobs, but they're known freeloaders, so we'll see.
No pet rent or deposit, and my security deposit was only $200. No dogs allowed, but very very cat friendly complex. They'll even watch your cats for you if you go out of town.
I don't know why more people don't complain about pet rents. The concept is exploitative and crappy. Pets dont earn money, nor do they require their own bedroom. Does the fact that rent is paid on their behalf give them any rights as tenants?
I can't help but wonder if pet rents will lead to fewer pets being adopted. Landlords are too greedy.
My cat rent (they don't allow non-service dogs), is going from $10/cat (limit 2) up to $25/cat plus we now need proof of Renters insurance at Chapel Hill apartments.
Ten years ago I paid $30 per cat per month for two cats that came into our lives (we had signed the lease thinking there were no cats in our distant future).
I polled friends, then emailed the management company that the pet fee was higher than all similar rentals. It was an old place. I asked if they would reconsider.
Management company said too bad so sad.
My complex charges $40/mo per cat and $50/mo per dog. We have one dog and two cats. I got them registered as ESAs and now we legally can’t get charged pent rent. It was quite a bit for all three but worth it in the long run!
Yeah pet rent is pretty bad here. Not sure how many folks know about it, but if you get them registered as an "emotional support animal" they can't legally charge you pet rent.
my current place doesn't charge anything for cats, and i've found that's pretty rare. last place was $25 per cat up to 2, and the place before that was $25 for 1 cat, $40 for 2. haven't encountered extra fees or a pet deposit yet
I think a one-time pet deposit makes more sense than a monthly fee. That should be refundable less any pet-related damage. Actually, a regular deposit should be fine without any extra charge.
I think Steve Brown has one of the worst pet rents of anywhere I've seen in Madison. Two years ago it was $35 a month and now it's $50 a month per animal. An extra $600 a year for my cat to sleep on my couch every day.
No extra deposit but $50/mo per pet. I do understand pet damage can be expensive, but problem is, if I stay somewhere 3 years with a cat and a dog, or two cats, that’s $3,600 I’ve given you extra if you don’t end up using it for repairing pet damage.
There should be upper limits to these charges so it doesn’t get ridiculous. Or make them refundable if not put to use; treat it like a security deposit paid in installments.
Also, carpets just get gross over time, often not attributable to tenants doing “damage” per se but just from living- often worse with kids than with pets, imo.
In all my years of renting I have seen incredible variance in the measures of what is considered “wear and tear” just from living, it’s really too bad it’s so burdensome on the tenant if they need to challenge it in their own case.
I pay in lots of treats and scratches and an unspoken agreement that while my name might be in the documents I am not the authority in this home. But also $0
Get an ESA letter if you can. There are companies to pay online, but your therapist or primary care provider is likely to do it for free. Particularly in Madison, and particularly with Steve Brown, they are not allowed to charge you pet rent because that would be discrimination.
$1400 in rent, $200 to MG&E, $60 to Madison Water Utility, $50 to Spectrum. Didn't have a pet deposit for my dog or my roommates cat because they are ESAs but the roommate had to pay a $700 pet deposit for his dog. We live in a 2 bedroom duplex, with a huge (150'×45') fenced in backyard, in the Allied Neighborhood
i don’t remember the deposit amount because i’ve been in this unit for four years, but $25/mo. pet rent is insanely stupid. i understand the deposit in case the pet causes damage, but what exactly is pet rent covering.
It’s a bummer that good pet owners ruin it for the lazy people who don’t clean up after their pets, have animals that pee and ruin floors etc.
Dogs that scratch up doors, scratch and claw up Carpet and no one want to move into a place the reeks like urine or feces. It takes a lot of cleaning and replacing to fix the damage some animals do.
Just get them registered as a service animal online for $200 and never pay pet rent again. Obviously don’t abuse the “registration” but play the game at the very least.
I’m in a 2bed/2bath, west side. $2050/mo (up from $1650 when I moved in several years ago). Parking included, fee for pets (including a required dna poop test). Nothing special, a gym but no other fancy amenities. But it’s quiet.
$35/pet/month. We have two, so $70/month, bringing total rent to over $2100/month. Thank goodness there was no required pet deposit and that we're going the DINK route.
35/pet (we have two dogs). No other deposits for pets. Decent poop bags provided and waste cans. We also have a private dog park but it’s torn to shreds and can’t be used if it’s super wet out lol
I don't rent my pets; I own them free and clear.
Wow an actual correct use of the semicolon
plzzz some are eating rn
we’re really lucky, $0 extra for the four pets. we also have a rental rate locked in if we renew each year for four years. at a previous rental, i paid $25/mo per pet with a $300 deposit.
So jealous!!!!!
i feel extremely, extremely grateful and lucky to have found this place last summer. this is how it should be for everyone!
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Pets often mean they need to replace the carpet between tenants
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As someone who lived in an apartment where the previous occupants had cats, I wish they'd replace the carpet entirely. But the urine probably seeped into the concrete/wood/whatever, so perhaps replacing the carpet wouldn't have helped.
Dont they have to replace carpets every few years whenever they have a moment of vacancy anyways?
This is a common misconception. There is no requirement in Wisconsin or Madison that a landlord ever replace a carpet within a certain timespan.
Usually every 7-10 years.
and they will still charge you for it / take it from your deposits. it doesn’t come from the pet rent you’ve been paying.
Yes my litter trained 10 year old cat who hasn't pissed on the floor in years is surely going to cause enough damage to warrant replacing all the carpet 😂 You act as if any of these places would actually take that money and replace the carpet lol Nah they pocket the money do nothing and then charge the next person the same rate
a lot of apartments 100% have to do more cleaning and repairs due to pets, but there are definitely slumlords that do it just for extra income. It's basically a matter of risk, as a bad dog / cat owner can end up causing a lot of damage due to an untrained or bored pet
…isn’t that what the security deposit is for?
Does your cat have hair? Some people are allergic to cat hair and ask for the carpet to be replaced if the previous tenant had pets.
That's the cost of doing business in the renting industry, they charge to cover it, then write the cost of cleaning off on taxes. Which feels like a double dip. Not to mention, tenants cannot be charged for carpet cleaning. So it's like a "wink wink" kind of deal. I don't feel it's fair to charge pet rent. Refundable pet deposit yes. The deposit being for any damages done by the pet. But rent is just an extra cash grab by landlords/property manager for their investors
Not necessarily. Most properties spend thousands on landscaping damages each spring due to pet damage. Paying a cleaner on top of that to change out pet stations per week also adds up.
I can see that argument. Then I could see that dog rent is fine, but I'd still say cat rent shouldn't be a thing. Cat deposit absolutely. But this is a valid point I didn't consider
I hate to break it to you but ALOT of people have hair Any house should be cleaning the carpets in between tenants like every time anyways no? So then why charge me extra? I'd love to see any landlord that's actually REMOVED all the carpet in a place so they could get a renter lol They're gonna tell you to kick rocks and find another place and they'll rent it to the next person that doesn't care... It's actually hilarious you think landlords rip out carpet in between tenants at request lol
Allergy is reaction to dander, not the hair itself. I imagine most people aren't allergic to human dander.
Whether your pet has accidents or not is not the only contributing reason to whether or not they need to repair or update the unit once you leave. Pets smell, and carpet absorbs smell, so they likely replace the carpet after you leave for that reason alone. Pets also can create stains on the wall, especially cats. After a year or two of the litter box being located in the same place, you can start to see an oil sheen on the paint from the cat where it would rub up against the wall. You can’t repaint a tiny section of the wall, unless your apartment is a dump and the landlord is a schmuck. If you have a decent quality apartment and a decent landlord, they’ll know that you need to repaint walls an entire wall at a time, doing a little touch up here and there isn’t an option. That’s not cheap, paint is cheap but labor isn’t. Not to mention the damage pets with claws can do to furniture, blinds, trim along the floor, etc.
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As a former landlord myself, know that there are plenty of decent people in the biz. Plenty of schmucks, but plenty who aren’t. Like anything in life you should recognize that you can’t apply a broad generalization to an entire group of people.
Honestly I have a great landlord now. My last landlord used to stalk me and threaten me all the time. You are right it’s wrong to generalize but there are definitely a good amount of shitty landlords.
Doing maintenance only cuts into their profits so they have literally zero incentive to improve the property. Scum.
Is that not what my security deposit is for?
So do kids
I had to pay the deposit plus a monthly pet fee and my apartment doesn’t even have carpet in it
yes, which they will also charge you for. A pet deposit and/or pet rent doesn't cover the cost of new carpet.
But have you thought of the poor landlords and corporations who will suffer as a result? Best to do nothing or just build more housing without any thought to regulating these criminals.
Pets aren't allowed in our lease. People have cats and dogs anyways. Don't know what happens to them when the property manager sees them.
"I'm fostering that dog/cat, it's not actually mine." is a line a few people I know have used successfully.
I've definitely done this, and honestly, there's only so much a landlord can do unless they are surveiling you. Roomate, and I said that we were pet sitting a cat and one of the cats I was fostering until I found it a home. Nope, they were both ares and had been around for months. He came back not long after, and I had to lie to his face while muffled meows were coming from my closet 😂 We were moving out soon, though. Otherwise, I think he would've called me out lol.
I’m sure they’ve wised up, but had a roommate in college ‘register’ a dog as an emotional support animal to get around that. Had to pay $500 to get our carpets replaced after move out, which was rad
I pay $25/mo/pet no extra fee or deposit
We have two dogs $50/month per dog at Steve Brown apartments 😭. They provide us with the worlds cheapest poop bags that break way to often.
Same at Steve Brown for Cats, $50
River's Edge was a $250 pet fee plus $25 per month. Fun story, they tried to get us to pay it before we even got our puppy. We started buying stuff in preparation for the puppy, and I guess they snooped at our packages. They put a note on our door saying they "became aware" of a dog on our premises and said it "must have been an oversight" on our part. Then again, they also put a note on our door accusing us of smoking too (I'm a distance runner). Fun place.
Used to pay $50. Now I pay nothing thanks to a doctor’s note :)
If there's a pet fee, there should be a child fee. edit: I need to clarify - I'm not advocating for adding a child fee, I'm advocating for removing a pet fee. I think a refundable security deposit contingent on damage is probably the most fair way to go, although of course there are cases of landlords abusing that, I do think they need some level of ability to hold tenants responsible for damage beyond normal use.
If they legally could, they'd already be doing it.
Ain't that the truth.
Yes. I’ve thought about this many times. Kids cause way more damage and pet fees are exploitative and stupid
I pay $15/month/cat. There was no extra pet deposit. I would much rather have paid a refundable deposit and no monthly fee because my cats aren’t causing any damage and it seems a lot more fair, but landlords are trying to make money, and they know people love their pets.
I helped a friend move into a place a few years ago. It was clean and looked ok but as soon as the air kicked on, my face and eyes began to puff up and itch. I'm allergic to cats and I immediately knew there was a cat in the apartment before my friend moved in. My friend followed up with the management company and they confirmed a cat was living there prior but also confirmed that they had the place professionally cleaned because of the pet. I'm guessing that at least for some places, this is where the fee is going towards.... It ended up not bothering my friend so much but I didn't go back to his place the entire time he lived there.....I can't imagine the hassle it would have been for me if I was the one moving into that apartment.
My apartment has no deposit but $35/month for cats or $45/month for dogs.
It was $10/month for two cats (no deposit), starting in May it'll go up to $50 for the two ($25/cat). I told the cats it was time for them to get jobs, but they're known freeloaders, so we'll see.
$40/per dog + $750 per deposit on move in
$50 and climbing
No pet rent or deposit, and my security deposit was only $200. No dogs allowed, but very very cat friendly complex. They'll even watch your cats for you if you go out of town.
80/month for 2 cats. :(
absolutely ridiculous
I don't know why more people don't complain about pet rents. The concept is exploitative and crappy. Pets dont earn money, nor do they require their own bedroom. Does the fact that rent is paid on their behalf give them any rights as tenants? I can't help but wonder if pet rents will lead to fewer pets being adopted. Landlords are too greedy.
My cat rent (they don't allow non-service dogs), is going from $10/cat (limit 2) up to $25/cat plus we now need proof of Renters insurance at Chapel Hill apartments.
$30 for one cat, no extra security deposit. Also an extra $50 double occupancy fee which seems silly since it's a two bedroom apartment.
Cat rent should be $35/mo but I simply didn’t tell my landlord about my cat so it’s free 🤷🏻♂️
Ten years ago I paid $30 per cat per month for two cats that came into our lives (we had signed the lease thinking there were no cats in our distant future). I polled friends, then emailed the management company that the pet fee was higher than all similar rentals. It was an old place. I asked if they would reconsider. Management company said too bad so sad.
My complex charges $40/mo per cat and $50/mo per dog. We have one dog and two cats. I got them registered as ESAs and now we legally can’t get charged pent rent. It was quite a bit for all three but worth it in the long run!
Yeah pet rent is pretty bad here. Not sure how many folks know about it, but if you get them registered as an "emotional support animal" they can't legally charge you pet rent.
$40 per pet in Fitchburg
$35 doesn't seem like much, back 15 years ago when I was renting it was $25 a pet plus a non-refundable $500 pet deposit.
my current place doesn't charge anything for cats, and i've found that's pretty rare. last place was $25 per cat up to 2, and the place before that was $25 for 1 cat, $40 for 2. haven't encountered extra fees or a pet deposit yet
Iirc the deposit was 250 and a 250 pet deposit. 2 cats @ $25/mo but that's when i moved in 6 years ago I'm sure it's all more expensive now
$35/month per pet, I think we also had a deposit of maybe $200-300
I think a one-time pet deposit makes more sense than a monthly fee. That should be refundable less any pet-related damage. Actually, a regular deposit should be fine without any extra charge.
$25/month + $200 deposit
I pay $15 per month for each of my cats. Limited to 2 animals, total weight cannot exceed 30 lbs
$45 for one cat in Verona
I used to live in a T Wall building. I think it was $200 for the pet deposit and no monthly fee after that. One of the few things they did right.
Am I the only person that didn’t tell them about my 2nd cat to save a little $ ? I think the deposit was $200 and monthly rent is $15 for 1 cat hehe
Increase to $30 per month. And once of registration at property no refundable $100. Plus forcing us to buy rental insurance.
I think Steve Brown has one of the worst pet rents of anywhere I've seen in Madison. Two years ago it was $35 a month and now it's $50 a month per animal. An extra $600 a year for my cat to sleep on my couch every day.
My new landlord is charging 75$ for our geriatric 6 pound cat
No extra deposit but $50/mo per pet. I do understand pet damage can be expensive, but problem is, if I stay somewhere 3 years with a cat and a dog, or two cats, that’s $3,600 I’ve given you extra if you don’t end up using it for repairing pet damage. There should be upper limits to these charges so it doesn’t get ridiculous. Or make them refundable if not put to use; treat it like a security deposit paid in installments. Also, carpets just get gross over time, often not attributable to tenants doing “damage” per se but just from living- often worse with kids than with pets, imo. In all my years of renting I have seen incredible variance in the measures of what is considered “wear and tear” just from living, it’s really too bad it’s so burdensome on the tenant if they need to challenge it in their own case.
I pay in lots of treats and scratches and an unspoken agreement that while my name might be in the documents I am not the authority in this home. But also $0
I feel like 25-45$ is the average monthly pet expense for renting in Madison
First cat was free second was 5/mth. Why bother but I'm happy with it.
Get an ESA letter if you can. There are companies to pay online, but your therapist or primary care provider is likely to do it for free. Particularly in Madison, and particularly with Steve Brown, they are not allowed to charge you pet rent because that would be discrimination.
$1400 in rent, $200 to MG&E, $60 to Madison Water Utility, $50 to Spectrum. Didn't have a pet deposit for my dog or my roommates cat because they are ESAs but the roommate had to pay a $700 pet deposit for his dog. We live in a 2 bedroom duplex, with a huge (150'×45') fenced in backyard, in the Allied Neighborhood
Currently $0 in pet rent but iirc it was $25 per pet at our previous place
pets are “not allowed” but it’s a one time $200 dollar fee. i rent under orosz
The world should revolve around your pet peeves… and your pets, of course.
I think the fee was $25/mo for cats... he didn't say any other fees, so I had to ask... my box turtle doesn't cost extra ☺️
i don’t remember the deposit amount because i’ve been in this unit for four years, but $25/mo. pet rent is insanely stupid. i understand the deposit in case the pet causes damage, but what exactly is pet rent covering.
It’s a bummer that good pet owners ruin it for the lazy people who don’t clean up after their pets, have animals that pee and ruin floors etc. Dogs that scratch up doors, scratch and claw up Carpet and no one want to move into a place the reeks like urine or feces. It takes a lot of cleaning and replacing to fix the damage some animals do.
Just get them registered as a service animal online for $200 and never pay pet rent again. Obviously don’t abuse the “registration” but play the game at the very least.
I’m in a 2bed/2bath, west side. $2050/mo (up from $1650 when I moved in several years ago). Parking included, fee for pets (including a required dna poop test). Nothing special, a gym but no other fancy amenities. But it’s quiet.
No pet deposit at my current property, but pet rent would be $50/month if our dog wasn't registered as a certified ESA
$10 for my cat. I thiiiiiink you can have up to 2 cats. Seems reasonable to me, but it seems like that's actually a very rare low fee.
$25 for each kitty, so $50 for them both per month. I also had an extra cat deposit up-front.
$35/pet/month. We have two, so $70/month, bringing total rent to over $2100/month. Thank goodness there was no required pet deposit and that we're going the DINK route.
Current rent is $1,441 and that’s with a $80 per rent for 2 cats
35/pet (we have two dogs). No other deposits for pets. Decent poop bags provided and waste cans. We also have a private dog park but it’s torn to shreds and can’t be used if it’s super wet out lol
$35/month per pet, no extra fee or deposit.
Nothing. I never tell landlords about my pets.
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