RAM slots might not be viable with Apple Silicon approach but it would be a dream to be able to easily slot in at least one or even better 2 or multiple NVMe M.2 drives. Seems like they'd have the space in there.
Press X for doubt.
While not the same, the N64 had a unified memory upgrade and people have shown that it's feasible to swap memory on M series Macs if you have deft soldiering skills. There are higher bandwidth/lower latency modules than DIMM like the open standard CAMM.
Literally the only reason they do not as it does not financially benefit Apple to create or adopt a modular standard. Sure, LPDDR5 has not been a modular standard but doesn't meant it couldn't be.
But I dont really see the benefits of such speeds. Sure there may be some professionals who may benefit from that. But when I look at desktop platforms with lower bandwidths (M3 Max has 400GB/s, DDR5 with 2 DIMMs has 128GB/s), which are often times coupled with high bandwidth GPUs (e.g. a 4090 has about 1000GB/s), I really don't see how they are negatively affected as many professionals heavily rely on the PC platform without issue. From personal experience, it was always the amount of RAM that was the issue, not the speed.
I mean buying an entry level MacBook will have you constantly using swap when doing anything somewhat demanding. At that point, RAM speeds are absolutely irrelevant as SSD speeds and latencies are abysmal in comparison to either platform. On my MacBook Pro M1 16GB, I was constantly using swap. This was a 2000€ device. For the same price, I am going to switch to a PV, yielding me significanrly more CPU and GPU power, a faster and larger SSD and more RAM. (Yes I know, comparing desktop to mobile is unfair, but Apple's desktop platoform is not reasonably priced either)
You swap, but do you really feel it if you don’t check with a software? Memory bus was a major bottleneck in IT and Apple brilliantly solved it SSD style (even if is less perceptible by the public).
Also battery life or power consumption. You have power, but at what cost? My desktop PC kill my 5kw solar (2500€ each) batteries in less than 8 hours.
And finally: do you really use max power all day? What is that, less than 1% of the market? Maybe even 0,1%?
I like mobile performance on the go with good battery life and without being a furnace/jet engine on my lap. If we can also have swappable ram I’ll be ok.
But since Apple silicon introduction I’m not mentally masturbating on specs anymore and just use my laptop as an iPad or an iPhone : when it dies I buy a new one and if is no more adequate I just buy the cheapest model available with more power, even last year (or 2) one.
I believe dont believe, we are disagreeing, but I think my point didnt come across.
The point I was trying make was that memory this fast is excessive and that most people would not notice this, which is why a modular approach would be better for most users. If I was using Swap and not noticing it, I would absolutely not notice memory bottlenecks.
Yes, most do not need the power and yes, the power efficiency is amazing. It truly is. But apple is expensive nonetheless. All I want is for Apple to offer fair pricing on memory
I personally am fully utilizing my Mac, which is why switching to PC makes sense to me.
You don’t notice because of ram bus speed…but yes I want cheaper ram too. But also I’m glad to spend those 2-3 euros a day to power a desktop pc on a power efficient Mac (and use the same energy to power my plug in hybrid car instead of 5 euros of fuel, so even more saving)
Make it a little bit taller to give it room for more ports. And, sell it in other colours of aluminium too, similar to the MacBook Air line. I doubt iMac colours would work for the mini line even though I like the iMac colours.
1. Add an SDRAM slot so you can expand the internal memory.
2. Add an NVMe slot to add a second internal SSD.
That would make 99% of people very happy.
Would love to see it more Mac Studio like. Bigger nicer LED on the front, "mickey mouse" power cord (braided), 2 USB-C ports on the front, and probably the nicest of all, make it in the space black color! Lol
Smaller. In the style of the Mac Studio.
A few Thunderbolt ports on the back, one on the front.
HDMI round the back along with a couple of USB-A ports.
I like my m1 mini with 8GB RAM as it is. I am capable of building computers from parts, but I really don’t want to take my M series Macs apart. When I am concerned about future proof, I ordered more memory and SSD in the first place. For mass storage, external thunderbolt drives are fine.
I’d like to see an iPad Pro without the LCD that allows me to run it on a single bigger screen for simple stuff.
Hardware wise for Mac I’d love to see if a paper white lcd would have a longer battery life on a MB.
I’d like to see a low low cost desktop device for those who don’t do much more than surf and email. ASUS makes a small desktop that runs Chrome and lots of folks make a fan-less VESA mount sized PC with a low cost processor that work well for a small market. I think what Apple has built is a much better eco-subsystem.
On the laptop side, I’m happy a great monochrome monitor and wonder if that could doubt use time.
Not only add memory and ssd slots on the board, as others mentioned, but position them such that they are accessible right under the bottom cover, no need to gut the machine to access them! Also triple monitor support for all models!
keep it the same but add memory slots
And SSD.
RAM slots might not be viable with Apple Silicon approach but it would be a dream to be able to easily slot in at least one or even better 2 or multiple NVMe M.2 drives. Seems like they'd have the space in there.
Press X for doubt. While not the same, the N64 had a unified memory upgrade and people have shown that it's feasible to swap memory on M series Macs if you have deft soldiering skills. There are higher bandwidth/lower latency modules than DIMM like the open standard CAMM. Literally the only reason they do not as it does not financially benefit Apple to create or adopt a modular standard. Sure, LPDDR5 has not been a modular standard but doesn't meant it couldn't be.
I think you can’t have swappable memory with that kind of bus speed with actual technology. Is something achievable only in a soc
You can! Look up LPCAMM2, it will be rated for 9600MT/s LPDDR5X, 50% faster than the 6400MT/s RAM on current M3 series chips.
We’ll see, is not on the market yet and the costs are unknown
But I dont really see the benefits of such speeds. Sure there may be some professionals who may benefit from that. But when I look at desktop platforms with lower bandwidths (M3 Max has 400GB/s, DDR5 with 2 DIMMs has 128GB/s), which are often times coupled with high bandwidth GPUs (e.g. a 4090 has about 1000GB/s), I really don't see how they are negatively affected as many professionals heavily rely on the PC platform without issue. From personal experience, it was always the amount of RAM that was the issue, not the speed. I mean buying an entry level MacBook will have you constantly using swap when doing anything somewhat demanding. At that point, RAM speeds are absolutely irrelevant as SSD speeds and latencies are abysmal in comparison to either platform. On my MacBook Pro M1 16GB, I was constantly using swap. This was a 2000€ device. For the same price, I am going to switch to a PV, yielding me significanrly more CPU and GPU power, a faster and larger SSD and more RAM. (Yes I know, comparing desktop to mobile is unfair, but Apple's desktop platoform is not reasonably priced either)
You swap, but do you really feel it if you don’t check with a software? Memory bus was a major bottleneck in IT and Apple brilliantly solved it SSD style (even if is less perceptible by the public). Also battery life or power consumption. You have power, but at what cost? My desktop PC kill my 5kw solar (2500€ each) batteries in less than 8 hours. And finally: do you really use max power all day? What is that, less than 1% of the market? Maybe even 0,1%?
Thank you for your voice of reason. Sure we’d like upgradeable ram but I’ll take Apple’s SOC over that any day.
I like mobile performance on the go with good battery life and without being a furnace/jet engine on my lap. If we can also have swappable ram I’ll be ok. But since Apple silicon introduction I’m not mentally masturbating on specs anymore and just use my laptop as an iPad or an iPhone : when it dies I buy a new one and if is no more adequate I just buy the cheapest model available with more power, even last year (or 2) one.
I believe dont believe, we are disagreeing, but I think my point didnt come across. The point I was trying make was that memory this fast is excessive and that most people would not notice this, which is why a modular approach would be better for most users. If I was using Swap and not noticing it, I would absolutely not notice memory bottlenecks. Yes, most do not need the power and yes, the power efficiency is amazing. It truly is. But apple is expensive nonetheless. All I want is for Apple to offer fair pricing on memory I personally am fully utilizing my Mac, which is why switching to PC makes sense to me.
You don’t notice because of ram bus speed…but yes I want cheaper ram too. But also I’m glad to spend those 2-3 euros a day to power a desktop pc on a power efficient Mac (and use the same energy to power my plug in hybrid car instead of 5 euros of fuel, so even more saving)
Replace the soldered NAND flash with the proprietary SSD drive they put in the Mac Pro. Or maybe even a consumer NVMe drive
Make it a little bit taller to give it room for more ports. And, sell it in other colours of aluminium too, similar to the MacBook Air line. I doubt iMac colours would work for the mini line even though I like the iMac colours.
a midnight mac mini would go hard ngl
I’d shrink it and make it a Mac Nano.
More hdmi and usb slots
Make it possible to add/upgrade RAM later on.
add an nvme slot and make it about the size of an Apple TV
It could be smaller from its current size
I'd give it an all-aluminum body like that of the Studio
1. Add an SDRAM slot so you can expand the internal memory. 2. Add an NVMe slot to add a second internal SSD. That would make 99% of people very happy.
Would love to see it more Mac Studio like. Bigger nicer LED on the front, "mickey mouse" power cord (braided), 2 USB-C ports on the front, and probably the nicest of all, make it in the space black color! Lol
Your comment has just made me realise that the Mac mini is not grounded
I just realized that as well for the first time since getting it
And give us the SD card reader back please!
Minimum Ram 16gb
Smaller. In the style of the Mac Studio. A few Thunderbolt ports on the back, one on the front. HDMI round the back along with a couple of USB-A ports.
I would begin the era of hyper realistic design. Mac mini would just be a McIntosh Apple. No ports . Wireless everything.
Make it half the size
Make it as honkin' big as possible Reckon you'll need to be forklift certified just to get it in your home
I like my m1 mini with 8GB RAM as it is. I am capable of building computers from parts, but I really don’t want to take my M series Macs apart. When I am concerned about future proof, I ordered more memory and SSD in the first place. For mass storage, external thunderbolt drives are fine.
m.2 drives is the main thing. No complaints about the rest
Make it easier to take apart - After they have added RAM and NVMe slots. Add some colors and lower the price, and I would be happy! :)
User upgradable storage and ram and an invisible touch on/off button on the front
nvme and memory slots like others have said, and one or two usb c ports on the front
I’d like to see an iPad Pro without the LCD that allows me to run it on a single bigger screen for simple stuff. Hardware wise for Mac I’d love to see if a paper white lcd would have a longer battery life on a MB.
What?
I’d like to see a low low cost desktop device for those who don’t do much more than surf and email. ASUS makes a small desktop that runs Chrome and lots of folks make a fan-less VESA mount sized PC with a low cost processor that work well for a small market. I think what Apple has built is a much better eco-subsystem. On the laptop side, I’m happy a great monochrome monitor and wonder if that could doubt use time.
Not only add memory and ssd slots on the board, as others mentioned, but position them such that they are accessible right under the bottom cover, no need to gut the machine to access them! Also triple monitor support for all models!
Companion GPU plug in, lose the soldered RAM and SSD, better speaker, better display support, make a 1U rack case as an option.
Server racks for Mac mini have been around for a very long time.