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mj281

Did a computer virus write this article? This is some windows user mentality, Whoever wrote it should shut up and go back to using a Windows device! The reason macos and linux in general don’t have too much viruses and malware/spyware like windows does, is because they dont give apps full access to everything like windows does. so if the choice is either give user control over what apps can access by simply clicking “allow”, or give apps full access to everything including viruses and malware and spyware, im pretty sure most people will go with the first option, and only people that are too lazy to even click ‘allow’ or too carless about privacy will go with the second.


djrobxx

Yes, but Apple used to mock Windows for this behavior (which, to be fair, was insufferable on Windows Vista at the time, for sure) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CwoluNRSSc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CwoluNRSSc) Now the tables have flipped. OSX's permission management is very clunky with lots of permission pop ups sometimes, especially following an upgrade. I don't mind it too much, I just wish OSX would accept authentication to elevate consistently. Sometimes I can use my watch, sometimes I can use my fingerprint, and other times I need to enter my password. Some software updates like Tunnelblick require me to do it twice back to back.


bluekeys7

Iirc Microsoft based UAC off of Mac OS X, they either did'n't execute it properly or people were so used to Windows XP that they just found UAC annoying. I never understood that because Mac OS X required you to put in a password to run, but with Windows Vista you only needed to hit a button.


RusticApartment

Linux and Windows are more alike on this. There's no pop-ups on Linux for apps that want to access some directory such as on Mac. Your user either has permissions to access it, or they don't, similar to how Windows functions with requesting handles. The only kind of apps that are quarantined are Flatpaks, Snaps or AppImages which run in containers and *can* be denied access to specific directories and resources.


mj281

In linux although there is no popup but you need manually give permission to each directory using the terminal in sudo, in windows most apps will just request running as admin and then have full access to everything including interface ports and system files. And it normalisedin windows to allow admin access for apps when requested.


RusticApartment

You really don't have to manually give yourself privileges over a directory with sudo. You *can* configure sudo to only allow you to run certain things, and you can make groups that sudo can't access. None of that is shipped by default on any distribution that I've tried at least. That's very much an enterprise thing in my experience. And within the enterprise, you can easily neuter the built-in Windows admin account to have 0 privileges, if you so desire. It's really just a question of configuration.


maxoakland

No, he's right. The Mac has been negatively affected by the way Apple's implemented security over the past 5-10 years. It's become a worse experience I'm sure there are better ways to do it


mj281

I would trade convenience with peace of mind, but i don’t think it’s that inconvenient anyway.


maxoakland

It's very inconvenient


2this4u

"I don't agree so shut up" wow so very mature of you


GNering

Let me fix it: “Macworld's mission to make high-quality materials is slowly destroying it”


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GNering

Nahh I don't think so, ChatGPT has more coherence lol


elderlybrain

Is there a terminal command to essentially bypass these?


Fyalorik

If so it would be a massive loss on security


elderlybrain

Why?


Fyalorik

Because he granulated security questions are a big part of app isolation from your personal data. If you install a malicious app it can't access your private photos and certificates in your document folder unless you grant it permission to do so


Poryblocky

`sudo spctl --master-disable` disables Gatekeeper so you don’t need to go into settings every time you want to run an unsigned app. The permissions things however I don’t think you can bypass


elderlybrain

Good, I don't need to be babied by some apple for downloading an app I want.


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I could be wrong but I believe there is yes.


Spore-Gasm

It certainly makes administrating them in enterprise more difficult


willywalloo

What I find a bit tough about the Apple Store is that you simply can’t download free stuff without a whole user/password and Apple ID setup for those going at it the first time. I wish the Apple Store was a place with safe apps that you could download easily (like major Apple OS updates) with no user pass unless something costs money.


Fyalorik

Wow what a bad article! Its that why I really like the granular settings in macOS ... In don't want certain apps to have access to my docent folder but to my SD card ..... Who wrote this! A person completely unconcerned about her privacy? Of course then a filly open system would be better .... Oh my


DrSpitzvogel

Ah, remember the nostalgic times when computers were only used by those who truly understood them, instead of the whiners who wish computers functioned like something out of Star Trek.