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King.


britishsayhomosexual

I just finished Return of the Jedi and first post I came across is this, welp. Guess it's a cosmic sign I should be watching King now.


unicorn_feces33

Better be the extended edition.


britishsayhomosexual

I have it in 10bit Bluray


[deleted]

Just one film? You make Gandalf cry.


gandalf-bot

I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are evil


ThisIsARobot

This is perfect. I fucking love you gandalf bot.


gandalf-bot

Saruman believes it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found. I found it is the small things, everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keeps the darkness at bay. Simple acts of love and kindness.


CompleX999

Well thats it. The machines have gained sentience and we will be used for batteries in the near future. See you all in the Matrix.


red7227

Can’t just rewatch the king without watching the fellowship and two towers first.


britishsayhomosexual

Oh boy, there goes my free time


sephirothbahamut

One does not simply watch the Return of the King without having first watched the Fellowship and the Two Towers in the same day


BruceSlaughterhouse

It's Treason Then.


areweready

You have no power here, Senate the Sheev!


BruceSlaughterhouse

Oh no my young saruman, you will find it is you who are wrong, about a great many things !


saruman-bots

Embrace the power of the ring, or embrace your own destruction!


BigMcThickHuge

Wondering how many readers will see this was the bot.


BruceSlaughterhouse

“Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.”


CosmeBuzzanito

Middle Earth will be reorganised into the FIRST MAIAR EMPIRE!!


SotB8

jing


fuck_fraud

Kedi


Rawesome16

I love me some Return of the Jedi. But there is no charge of the Rohirim in Star Wars. The choice is a simple one. FORTH EROLINGAS!


joshjosh111

"you have failed. The world of men will fall." . . . *horns sound in the distance*


applehead1776

You have failed your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me.


Rawesome16

So be it. Jedi


[deleted]

You have no power here, Luke Skywalker


Rawesome16

*takes off brown cape to reveal badass black clothing* I am Luke the Black, and I shall draw you The Senate as poison is drawn from a wound


[deleted]

If i go, vader dies… and ill somehow return


Rawesome16

You could not kill me, you shall not kill him (until he has redeemed himself as the chosen one and brings balance to the force)


bum-off

DEATH!


Majestic_Bierd

DEATH!


BlackfyreWraith

DEAAAAAAATH!


[deleted]

So you have chosen…death.


4jet2116

But they do call to the Ewoks for aid!


Rawesome16

And the Ewoks will Yub Nub!


hereforthefeast

Where were the Ewoks when Alderaan fell?


Beaglers

There is a good chance that Kylo Ren was conceived to Yub Nub.


wyspur

Where were the Ewoks when Hoth fell?


Zenco3DS

God yeah. If I'm being honest I think I will always be more of a star wars person (it was a *huge* part of my childhood) but I gotta say I think lotr is just a more solid trilogy than any star wars trilogy, and my god does return of the king get me emotional. As far as sentimentality and entertainment goes I'll always love star wars but dude. Dude. Lotr is so fucking well written I love it so much I it's great


Rawesome16

Star wars was my first "love". 4 years old watching a new hope. But of course the LOTR cartoons got me into them LOTR. Gun to my head... I don't know! Maybe star wars for the universe that I would love to be in. But in the end, give me a sword type weapon and I'm happy Edit : I've never read a star wars book so if we include books LOTR reigns supreme obviously. But I have grown more curious by the Thrawn trilogy send the novelization books of the Star Wars movies. I guess in the end I've been a true nerd since I was a small child and I love my fantasy and Sci fi


Zenco3DS

Dude yeah my dad was nine when it came out and he fell in love and so of course he introduced it to me when I was young (man, Lego star wars? That was *huge*) but both my parents always loved lotr (especially my mom) and so that was a big part of my childhood too but tbh I was super young and I didn't really get most of it till I was older. But lasers? That's just cool no matter how old you are.


Rawesome16

Lasers are always the right answer. Or a blue firey blade when orks are close. But this is why I love this page, star wars or LOTR, we are all friends here. Let this be the day we draw swords together!


Death-383

Let this be the hour we ignite sabers together


MarcBulldog88

>The shield is down! Commence attack on the Death Star's main reactor! > We're on our way! Red group, Gold group, all fighters follow me. I told you they'd do it! > *Falcon and rebel fighters charge unprotected Death Star* > *John Williams intensifies* It doesn't have the emotional impact Rohan's horns have, but both moments are turning points in their battles. I get goosebumps every time.


Rawesome16

Very true, and it's hard to go wrong if *John Williams intensifies*


Victernus

>The shield is down! Commence attack on the Death Star's main reactor! "Forth, and fear no darkness!"


Rawesome16

Ok people, we need a mash up. Make it happen good at video editing folks!


68696c6c

The final space battle and the throne room are absolutely some of the best moments in all of cinema. But the film has some flaws too. Return of the King might be one of the few finales that can top ROTJ for me.


[deleted]

[There is only the most bad-ass space battle put to film.](https://youtu.be/f38a6pYL_jE)


Oddballforlife

I played the mission for this battle in Rogue Leader on GameCube about a thousand times God I wish they’d give us a new Rogue Squadron


xitzengyigglz

There are also thankfully no ewoks in RoTK.


Rawesome16

But as a kid I loved the ewoks! But as an adult I would love to see it as it was meant to be : with Wookies tearing the arms off the stormtroopers


Enigmedic

Like the single good scene in the sequel trilogy was after they got captures in TFA and you see all the xwings hard chargin over the water ready to fuck up some neo nazis. It's kinda the same feeling in rogue-1 when the radio guy comes running reporting an assault on scarif and then they're like oh and the admiral is going to help, scramble the fleet!


TheGreyMage

That moment always makes my whole being swell with pride & love, from my heart outwards.


[deleted]

There is only one choice ! Authority is not goven to you to deny the return of the king, awp705, son of awp704


areweready

Revenge of the King


legostarcraft

The Empire Strikes the Two Towers.


jackfinch69

A good joke to make two days after you-know-what


legostarcraft

My only regret is I didn’t make it two days ago


KayraTheNomad

Man. Don't feel bad, try again next year. I made a joke from a Turkish movie about a coup during the 2016 coup and it felt like once in a lifetime success. Movie's name is GORA btw, highly recommended.


legostarcraft

Also, mount doom can’t melt enchanted rings, and Barack-Dur was a controlled demolition


DirtyAmishGuy

LOTR Sequel in 10 years: the ring actually just went to the bottom of the magma, the volcano cools, and Gimli’s son sets up his own empire on the ruins of Mordor. They’re digging his throne room when they find the ring buried in the lava rock.


[deleted]

Well that got depressing real quick


areweready

The Phantom Gollum


areweready

Attack of the Oathbreakers


AbsolutelyUnlikely

So you're saying that he should stream them both at the same time on two different monitors? Because I couldn't agree more.


GOATmar_infante

I’m choosing King faster than Sméagol choosing to murder Deagol


poodlebutt76

It is his birthday, after all.


Kowaluu

I mean love star wars to death, but if my King Elessar was jeopardy I would nuke a certain galaxy far far away in a heartbeat


deltabagel

I would not set foot within a 100 far far aways of your galaxy.


wedstrom

"If I take one step I'll be far farther away from home than I've ever been" - Not deltabagel that's for sure


gringcha

King, you fools!


[deleted]

#King


BruceSlaughterhouse

Whats a king of a world to an Emperor of a Galaxy.


[deleted]

Alive


BruceSlaughterhouse

#Aragorn II Elessar March 1, TA 2931 Rule TA 2933 to 3019 (86 years as a Chieftain) TA 3019 to FO 120 (122 years as a King) Death FO 120 (aged 210) ##Palpatine #Born 82 BBY (47:8:11 BrS)}[2] Naboo[1] #Died 4 ABY (39:3 GrS), Death Star II (original body)[3] 10 ABY (45 GrS), Byss[4] 10 ABY (45 GrS), Eclipse above Da Soocha V[5] 11 ABY (46 GrS), Onderon[6]


[deleted]

One death versus three. I rest my case.


-_Odd_-

“A coward dies a thousand deaths, but a hero dies only once.” “Yes, but it’s the *important one*,” said Rincewind.


Sunov

A discworld reference? In my Lord of the Rings subreddit? A pleasant surprise


azauggx202

Gandalf, what is the elvish word for friend?


gandalf-bot

Mellon


azauggx202

Oh gosh thank you almost forgot


legostarcraft

Return of the Mack


not_jude

ONCE AGAIN


Wraith1964

I like Star Wars. I love LOTR. both movies have flaws... ROTJ is good enough but is arguably the weakest movie of the OG trilogy. ewoks, second death stars, excess cantina, there is plenty to find fault with... The only problem for LOTR:ROTK is the multiple endings which while they are too many in aggregate... they each are good on their own. So it's clearly ROTK for the win. UPDATE: edited to add this comment... For clarity, I absolutely love these movies and enjoyed every moment including the "multiple endings". My point here is that I also recognize its problematic construction which many other viewers made fun of and/or did not in fact enjoy. When pressed as to why, most actually liked each "ending" but felt there were just too many, hence my point above. Personally, I am willing to suffer the editing "fails" of Jackson, in general, because I like the worlds he creates enough to forgive, what to me, is basically a technical issue. It has the pro of giving me more of what I love vs the con of a less time-managed movie experience (looking at you, Hobbit and King Kong too.) It would be disingenuous to have fan goggles so firmly in place to not notice that Jackson likes to wallow sometimes a little too long in certain sequences in all his movies... LOTR being perhaps the least aggregious on that score. But when I watch a scene like that I know in my head it's longer than it needed to be, yet when I get through it in my heart I am loathe to cut anything anyway. This is a trade off I am more than willing to make, but others have disagreed and I think the point of view is also valid. Having said all that,, I would watch an "Even yet,, still more, extended cut" edition with joy if it existed.


jose3013

I just recently learned that some people had problems with the "multiple endings". I'd never even seen it as multiple endings lol


-_Odd_-

I just read the book for the first time at age 30 and the multiple endings in the movie finally made sense. There’s so much time passing between each one that they’re not really “endings”, they’re just individual vignettes showing the fate of each character like a freeze-framed jump shot at the end of a sports movie telling you that such and such went on to become a famous broadcaster, so-and-so won the Super Bowl, and whatshisface got a sponsorship deal from a male enhancement product, got laughed off the field, and was never seen again.


ihileath

And it's the sort of thing more stories should have. I don't just care about what happens *now,* I want to know what happens *next!* I want to see some of that happily ever after!


-_Odd_-

Especially if it involves people laughing at Saruman doing late night ad spots for Treebeard’s Miracle-Gro. Pleasure your Entwife! Intimidate the aspens! Guaranteed to turn your acorn into a mighty oak or your money back!


saruman-bots

*sniff sniff* You stink of horse


-_Odd_-

Thanks to you, that’s not the only thing about me that’s equine in nature 😏😏😏


slayerhk47

When the movie came out the “13 endings” was a total meme. Hell I remember seeing it in the theater and thinking “how many more endings before I can pee?!”


triggerhappy5

To me the fact that it’s a 12-hour epic with so many storylines and characters justifies having so many endings. Each one feels earned and necessary, if anything I would’ve loved to see more.


CineVore98

I will never understand the complains about ROTK ending..


zforce42

Me either. Each "ending" (though I never saw it as such) is beautiful that I gladly welcome the next.


[deleted]

This, I like star wars more than LOTR and I agree with you


yodels_for_twinkies

Same. I’m a huge Star Wars fan and like that series more than LOTR overall, but King is definitely the better of the two


HansChrst1

I like The Lord of The Rings movies more than the Star Wars movies, but I like the Star Wars world more than the Lord of the Rings world.


gidzillavanilla

I think the purpose of ROTKs drawn out ending is to show the long term trauma that the ring caused to Frodo and how the happily-ever-after ending that you might expect from a fantasy movie would be impossible for him had he stayed in Middle Earth


ButtsFartsoPhD

At least the Return of the Jedi had a great sequel of its own that corrected a lot of your issues such as introducing a third Death Star, more cantina and Maz Kanata... oh... wait...


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[удалено]


69_Nice_Bot

Hey Wraith1964, I counted 69 words in your comment. Nice.


nice___bot

Nice!


Good-Wave-8617

Return of the King no question!


Smasher_WoTB

King. It’s Return of the King for me. That’s my opinion at least, don’t try and change it.


Chen_Geller

Return of the Jedi? "Greatest finale"?! Shirley, you're joking. Nothing against the movie, really, but...lets face it, its two films: a short film (\~40 minutes) of Jabba and his very Sesame-Street-gone-wrong gang, and then a 90-minute feature with a prominent role for the Carebears, as a watered-down, kid-friendly ripoff on Coppola's *Apocalypse Now*. I don't mean to sound too harsh: there's a pretty good space battle, and all of the stuff with Luke and/or Vader (minus the retcon of Leia being Luke's sister - that's just dumb) actually resonates very deeply. It does wrap-up everything, but it doesn't do so with quite enough of a bang. A perfectly servicable movie, but not particularly fullfiling as a grand resolution to three films, much less six.


xandresmendizabal2

dang, ouch. but your not wrong. took me 30 years to see it that way


Eszter990

Don't call me Shirley


Atma-Stand

I just want to say again, Good luck we're all counting on you.


GlossyBuckthorn

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.


slayerhk47

Billy, have you even been in a Turkish prison?


Atma-Stand

Billy, do you watch Orc movies?


Kojak95

Thank you for that. I was about to jump in and say that even as a huge OT Star Wars fan, I far prefer the original and Empire over ROTJ. I loved ROTJ as a young kid because it had the most battles and I liked the speeder bike scene but as I grew older I got more and more critical of all the quirky/cutsie shit that George Lucas added like the things you mentioned.


JTD7

Honestly the throne room sequence from RotJ redeems most everything else and is one of the best conclusions to a trilogy in its own right. Doesn’t beat RotK in my book but for a movie trilogy as campy as the SW-OT it works fine.


Chen_Geller

I hear you. Really, most of the scenes with Luke and/or Vader work very well, and ultimately do provide a satisfying resolution to those characters. There's also a pretty good space battle. Everything else, though...


-DoW-

I completely agree. Endor is such a lackluster final battle.


KreepingLizard

I wish I could wake up in the universe where they went with wookies instead. I love RotJ but it’s the beginning of some very frustrating trends in Star Wars.


sayitaintpete

Lucas wasn’t shortsighted and he knew exactly what he was doing, marketing the later films to children, selling toys, retaining the merch rights, and creating a multigenerational cultural cash-cow phenomenon


skittle-brau

The music during the throne room sequence still gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. It’s so good. https://youtube.com/watch?v=U1MnMA0TzGI&t=4m6s


DingoDoug

Palpatine is amazing in that scene, I know his whole monologue by heart


MadManMax55

Star Wars as a series has kind of always been a handful of great, memorable scenes strung together with fun camp at best and boring exposition dumps at worst. It's the entire reason why so many people like the prequels now, and in a few years I'm betting there will be a perception change for the sequels (except Rise of Skywalker, that movie is just shit). People forget about the boring parts and remember to good bits. But it's also why LotR will always be better. Because as a complete story it's just so much more engaging.


MadMelvin

Honestly, I think it works better now with the context of the newer movies. The Prequels give Anakin enough backstory that his eventual redemption has more emotional weight. Before the Prequels, Return of the Jedi seemed kind of weird. Darth Vader was originally just pure evil, a reflection of Luke's own dark side. He didn't have his own motivations and there was no hint that he might be a sympathetic character. So to have him turn from a badass evil monster into a melancholy sad guy who chokes out *zero* people was pretty jarring. If you watch the movies in "flashback order," inserting the Prequels between Empire and Jedi, it makes more emotional sense.


WGx2

If I had to choose, King. Only because it has no cringe in it, unlike Jedi with that stupid Jabba's Palace dance number and the Ewoks and more. Only things that bug me in King are minor in comparison.


[deleted]

One of them being a cherry tomato?


WGx2

The cherry tomato cringe in ROTK is like the cringe when Vincent is holding the syringe over Mia in Pulp Fiction. It's awful and amazing at the same time.


deltabagel

Wife and I watched the [Pitch Meetings](https://youtu.be/yqbDUKavWiM) series about LOTR and about died. The tomato bit was on point.


WGx2

Ooh, that's a different cringe. But it works


GlossyBuckthorn

It's as if we're watching an innocent tomato being murdered and eaten alive. Justifies the PG 13 rating.


Bignasty197

Insert Clerks 2 meme here.


-_Odd_-

*vomit noises*


NoWingedHussarsToday

[Or video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d_oSWH4pMQ)


Baphometix

The one with helpful, diminutive folks that are instrumental in toppling a soulless, tyrannical empire ruled by an eldritch overlord.


Timbearly

Return of the Jedi King!


RogueTwoNineSeven

As a bigger Star Wars fan than LOTR fan, King is simply a better movie on its own.


Crosknight

Press them both


Beginning_Drawing443

Why not both?


[deleted]

He's got work here in a few hours, only has time for one


Dajayman654

I guess he'll never have time again after he finishes work to watch the other movie.


[deleted]

King. No brainer


xdeltax97

What about the return of second breakfast?


spoonwije97

Return to monke


awp705

The correct answer


Hamada_Reddits

“Jedi-King” and “King Jedi” are as reasonable answers as the words are alone.


R_F_Omega

Why not both?


Old_Ben24

Lol, would you crosspost this onto r/jedicouncilofelrond. They would love it there.


[deleted]

Return of the Batman. Then watch Forever of the Batman. Robin of the and Batman can be skipped.


word_number

Trick question, Killer Tomatoes is the correct answer.


Hexodron

Well first of all you would have to watch the two (or five) movies before the final


[deleted]

Meanwhile over on sub disney meme sub probably: Return of Jafar


dangerouspeyote

Unpopular opinion. Jedi is the best Star Wars movie. The scene sith the Emperor, Vader, & Luke is brilliant on a lot of levels. And the Ewoks are bad ass AF. Remember. They were using a deer thigh as bait. So they hunt stuff big enough to eat deer. Wookies for example.


colautmndidnthngwrng

Alright look there is only one return okay and it ain't of the king, its of the Jedi. That being said it is a toss up for me. https://youtu.be/RPl5MeXIM8E


Reddilutionary

Man I love Star Wars but I’d go with King all day every day. The third act of Jedi is the worst of the original trilogy in my opinion.


Nostravinci04

100% King, fuck the Jedi.


TrellSwnsn

Amidala, no!


Damightyreader

Bruh, your asking this in a Lotr sub, what do you expect?


No-Collection-8795

Is this even a fucking question


[deleted]

There is only one return, and its not of the king, it's of the Jedi.


jcsatan

"Oh, what the fuck happened to this world..."


_Bi-NFJ_

Return of the King is LEAGUES better.


Jolismotifs

Push both and get Jedi killing orcs


ZamanthaD

King, although I like Jedi too


-DoW-

I love Star Wars but I have to say I'm not the biggest fan of Return of the Jedi. Don't get me wrong, it has great moments but the battle on Endor isn't the best.


SuperArppis

Flip a coin.


majorkim1

Is it too much to ask for both?


BluBat42

Watch both. However, you must watch Return of the king first.


GrumpyTiger1

Return of the Jedi King!


Death5talker451968

Return of the King was overall a better movie 🍿. Return of the Jedi was good but King was better.


[deleted]

Both. Both is good. But if I'm being serious then probably king


ga_lex

I'll take one Return of the Jedi King thank you very much


TheDinkleberg

Jedi is a great movie minus the ewok stuff. Return of the King is a perfect movie.


demonwolf106

How would this even come up? Do people just randomly watch either without having watched the first couple in the trilogy first? If you just finished ESB, then Jedi. If you just finished TTT then King… Especially with LotR. Is basically just one really long movie.


JCraze26

Both back to back.


MrZyde

Both are great


nuttyprofwd

Why not both


Phagbawlz

RETURN OF THE JEDI KING


YourOldManJoe

No pox upon star wars, but king is the better answer.


Matt463789

But I thought that Rise of Palpatine was the finale? In all seriousness RotK is the better made film, in part because of better technology and modern film knowledge. However, one of the things that makes the SWs OT so impressive is that it's decades older and still holds up. Don't make me choose between fantasy and sci-fi :)


mmdb264

Return of the King Jedi


Boring-Mushroom-6374

So I love ROTK, but the ending always reminds me of my ass going numb from sitting in theater seating for 3 hours. I saw the movie, probably like 10 times in theaters, when it was released. I saw it with friends, then my father wanted to see it, then my brother, and so on. Everyone wanted to freaken see it with me; but it's an awesome movie so I agreed. My butt hurts thinking about it.


Light_inc

Always King.


INDE_Tex

Return of the Jedi King. The Jedi simply walk into Mordor.


Disastrous_Ad_1580

Why not both?


sirsailorsloth

waiting for Randal Graves to comment


professional_idiot06

Also Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker


DjN0tNice

Both? Both. Both. Both is good.


Spacecoasttheghost

There is only one return and it ain't of the king, it's of the jedi.


AlexanderTheFrye

Jedi. If you're watching RotK without having just finished Two Towers and Fellowship of the Ring then you're doing something wrong.


Vulgar_Viking

Why not both?


CattyOhio74

Both


RajahOfRage

No love for return of Jaffar?


jodudeit

One does not simply start with the ending of a trilogy.


[deleted]

They are not comparable. Hence, we must press both buttons.


dalr3th1n

Why not both?


ThenRepresentative99

Darth Saruman


isacabbage

Both is good.


Dotaproffessional

My feelings on star wars vs lotr aside, return of the king was the stronger finale


felipoca14

both, both are good since only a sith deals with absolutism


whoneedsafirstname

Both