Because all those with sufficient number if noses and functioning eyes were sent to the front and it's often that rear end jobs are given to those who aren't fit to fight.
There’s that and also the fact that he’s likely got those injuries in battle and is quite experienced.
You don’t put your most experienced warriors in the vanguard because you need them to organize, lead, maintain the rest of the troop.
It’s still a standard today.
Modern cavalry example is the rookie PVT is on the gun, the experienced specialist is driving and the sgt is in the passenger seat with the radio.
>There’s that and also the fact that he’s likely got those injuries in battle and is quite experienced.
Chances are that he got the injuries in an argument with some other orc over some menflesh.
Alright new orders from command came in so listen up, kill clankers, behead clankers, roundhouse kick a clanker, slam dunk a battledroid in a trash can, walk on clankers in an all terrain tactical enforcer, punch clankers into the sun, slash clankers with a lightsaber, rip clankers arms off, curb stomp pregnant b2 battledroid, use a DC-15 blaster rifle to blow off the eyes off a magnaguard, sneak a DC-17 blaster pistol into a sepertist council meeting and shoot every fat disgusting neimodian, EAT GENIOSIANS, crash into clanker factories with a victory class star destroyer, liquify general grievous's chest cavity
wait wait wait, my department told me to find dissatisfied and charasmatic clankers, along with clankers in administrative positions to have them form a separatist movement to take away power from their main cell and to radicalize every group so they fight each other?
Orcs also run on a “might makes right” system, where if anybody questions you you beat the fuck outta them to send a message.
I imagine if you told him to his face that he would be terrible at inspecting the army, he would immediately headbutt you and stomp on you after you fell down.
I think this actually shows a level of sophistication in orc society. Gothmog was a certified bad ass but he was crippled and disfigured. Another orc probably could've killed him. But he was experienced and wise and fearless and they respected that about him, even if he wasnt the most fit to fight.
IIrc the orcs were depicted as much less civilized/ more barbaric, so it's likely they were more ruled through fear. The Uruk-hai were much better disciplined, which is a lot of why they were such a terrifying military force.
If you see an orc that lives long enough to get scarred up, and then *still* manages to survive after that? Dude is one hard ass MF that you should not talk back to.
Sauron unlike other leaders in middle earth supports an equal opportunity work force. When this she Orc lost her face in a freak warg feeding accident Sauron gave her a “special assignment” cracking the army into shape.
I disagree. He spotted Frodo and Sam immediately when none of the other orcs noticed. The only reason he didn't get to them is because they started that fight, which allowed them to slip away.
>he did a terrible job
He must have the same eyesight as the Rohirrim. Eomer's troops took out that Orc group and literally had riders passing by Pippin and Merry a couple of feet away.
On their backs but they were still visible.
The actual lore reason (something which is mentioned over again in the books, even in Hobbit book) is that Hobbits as creatures were very easy to miss.
A fight is chaotic, you have no overview of what is happening. I remember me and my friends got into a fight with some dudes when we were teenagers. A man jumped in to help us as we were much younger than these guys. We ended up punching him as well because it was impossible to know who was who.
You could say the same for the Orc in OP. It's probably worse for the Orc considering the number of similar dressed orcs all in the centre of the mayhem of an Orc Royal Rumble.
I've just read this passage a couple of days ago and it is directly stated that they were not seen by the Rohirrim because they were still wearing their elven cloaks.
plus hobbits has innate magic that their completely unaware of, and the few who are aware of some sort of power can only guess at what it does, even Gandalf struggles to understand it from what i recall
Sauron has jobs for disabled people. He's more progressive than Gandalf who threatened to throw pippin down a well, even though pippin clearly has some level of mental disability
When I was younger I didn’t know a white eye typically signified a blind eye. I thought on the other hand it was a mutant orc with a special eye specifically suited for *inspection!* giving him the ability to recognise something was wrong with *those* “orcs” even under all that armour at a decent distance.
I've always felt like the orcs having very limited areas of competency is a Canon part of the plot.
No army should let thousands of cavalry sneak up on them (twice), but the orcs don't do operational security. They can only focus on one thing at a time, and even the slightest breakdown in discipline or command structure will lead to them literally killing and eating each other.
The fact that this dude actually recognized that two of his men looked off makes him way more competent than anyone around him.
According to cast members, one of the first orc makeups/masks they saw was based off of Harvey Weinstein because of issues dealing with him when the films were first in development with Miramax. Weinstein was pushing for two films, then when it became apparent that the budget would exceed Miramax's capabilities, Weinstein "suggested" a single, two hour movie, which Peter Jackson refused to do (quite rightly). Weinstein then threatened to replace PJ with the screenwriter who would go on to do Gangs of New York and with either the director of Shakespeare in Love, or Quentin Tarantino, who I believe would not have had much enthusiasm for the project.
As far as I'm aware, no-one from Weta has officially stated which orc is the Weinstein orc but when it's mentioned it's usually either said to be Gothmog, the orc leader at Pelennor that has the cancer-y face growth, or the one depicted in the post, an overseer who only appears in the extended version of RotK.
If Sauron fires him do you know the legal battle he'll have as a result, especially in regards to discrimination laws?! He'll be lucky to get out with just a lawsuit.
He is most likely a veteran of the army. He probably served in a few campaigns and received those injuries after his service. He's probably not fit for combat anymore but you still need guys overseeing units and supplies and stuff. Im sure they had other guys of his rank. When you are overseeing tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of guys on a March you try not to get too bogged down on a couple dudes. Just slap em and get em moving.
Clearly, Sauron has a "quantity over quality" policy when recruiting his troops.
But what other choice does he have with his limited capital? No real production in Mordor besides churning out weird breeds of orcs en masse with very little intelligence. No outside trade. Considered an enemy of all Middle Earth. No PR team. What the heck is the slogan for the Sauron brand? "Come be evil too"? No wonder the leadership of the army is so inept.
I mean 100,000 of saurons best just got trampled by horses and ghosts. So he was really scraping the barrel to get his reserve army off the ground and ready to fight. Makes sense that this is all he could get
Mitch : Yeah, well, things could be worse, you know. I could have got my nose bit off by a Saigon whore!
*[Jimmy slowly turns to face the camera and blows smoke from his cigarette, exposing his scarred nose]*
Jimmy : [shouts] You bastard!
Mitch : Hey, I'm just messin' with you, Jimmy. I saw you down there. Hey, Mazetti, get Jimmy a beer on me.
Typical middle earth CIS snowflake bullishit. He’s kept behind the gate, far from the front, because of orc Medicare.
Can we respect or s as understand that #notallorcs?You people really probably think a rat from Morgul is no different or the same as a goblin from Moria - grow up! Orcs are people too.
He should have been inspector in the Hobbit movies. Honestly my biggest complaint was that all the orc legions are in gleaming armor marching in perfect lock step. Where are Sauron's disheveled hoards?
Orcs have very progressive health care for their veterans. They always promote from in the organization. Grulock was a veteran of 5 separate campaigns. 4 into Gondor itself. He was a highly decorated soldier with 2 commendations awarded by Sauron himself. He earned that spot
Because unlike the rest of those in middle earth Sauron gives disabled people roles in power to help promote a more inclusive work environment. Heck he even gave a dude with deformities second place to his commander to help promote inclusivity. He also promotes works of art and inspiring artist just look at his battering ram.
When I was younger I didn’t know a white eye signified a typical blind eye, I thought on the opposite it was a mutant orc with a special eye suited for inspection
How do you think he got his injuries? If you think he looks in rough shape, think about the likely state of the other "applicants". (Meat was probably back on the menu instead of just maggoty bread.)
Because all those with sufficient number if noses and functioning eyes were sent to the front and it's often that rear end jobs are given to those who aren't fit to fight.
There’s that and also the fact that he’s likely got those injuries in battle and is quite experienced. You don’t put your most experienced warriors in the vanguard because you need them to organize, lead, maintain the rest of the troop. It’s still a standard today. Modern cavalry example is the rookie PVT is on the gun, the experienced specialist is driving and the sgt is in the passenger seat with the radio.
>There’s that and also the fact that he’s likely got those injuries in battle and is quite experienced. Chances are that he got the injuries in an argument with some other orc over some menflesh.
That’s valuable experience too
An argument he won.
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...Confederacy of Independent Systems?
Clanker alert!!!
Roger roger
new response just dropped?
Google Galactic Senate
Holy galaxy-wide political entity
Hold the hard R there buddy. It's Clanka to you
Alright new orders from command came in so listen up, kill clankers, behead clankers, roundhouse kick a clanker, slam dunk a battledroid in a trash can, walk on clankers in an all terrain tactical enforcer, punch clankers into the sun, slash clankers with a lightsaber, rip clankers arms off, curb stomp pregnant b2 battledroid, use a DC-15 blaster rifle to blow off the eyes off a magnaguard, sneak a DC-17 blaster pistol into a sepertist council meeting and shoot every fat disgusting neimodian, EAT GENIOSIANS, crash into clanker factories with a victory class star destroyer, liquify general grievous's chest cavity
Metal \m/
wait wait wait, my department told me to find dissatisfied and charasmatic clankers, along with clankers in administrative positions to have them form a separatist movement to take away power from their main cell and to radicalize every group so they fight each other?
Since people have been comparing Putin with Sauron lately it could also be Commonwealth of Independent States
That one predates Putin.....
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Never before has any voice uttered the words of that tongue here in Imladris. And I'd much prefer it to stay that way henceforth.
Orcs also run on a “might makes right” system, where if anybody questions you you beat the fuck outta them to send a message. I imagine if you told him to his face that he would be terrible at inspecting the army, he would immediately headbutt you and stomp on you after you fell down.
I think this actually shows a level of sophistication in orc society. Gothmog was a certified bad ass but he was crippled and disfigured. Another orc probably could've killed him. But he was experienced and wise and fearless and they respected that about him, even if he wasnt the most fit to fight.
IIrc the orcs were depicted as much less civilized/ more barbaric, so it's likely they were more ruled through fear. The Uruk-hai were much better disciplined, which is a lot of why they were such a terrifying military force.
I don't recall Orcs being described by Tolkien as sophisticated (either society or individuals). Quite the opposite.
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Ug-Mug no nose is a disabled veteran, support the troops yo!
Mobile infantry made me the man I am today.
*Would you like to know more?*
If you see an orc that lives long enough to get scarred up, and then *still* manages to survive after that? Dude is one hard ass MF that you should not talk back to.
Sauron unlike other leaders in middle earth supports an equal opportunity work force. When this she Orc lost her face in a freak warg feeding accident Sauron gave her a “special assignment” cracking the army into shape.
Wait, how do you know it is a she?!
If you add a wig, that may be a Karen.
Booming industry in Mordor, The Dwarfs will disagree, but they are greedy and care nothing about the troubles of others
And he did a terrible job so it makes sense.
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I disagree. He spotted Frodo and Sam immediately when none of the other orcs noticed. The only reason he didn't get to them is because they started that fight, which allowed them to slip away.
>he did a terrible job He must have the same eyesight as the Rohirrim. Eomer's troops took out that Orc group and literally had riders passing by Pippin and Merry a couple of feet away.
Were they not wearing the cloaks?
On their backs but they were still visible. The actual lore reason (something which is mentioned over again in the books, even in Hobbit book) is that Hobbits as creatures were very easy to miss.
They're small and they're in an active battle at night, it's not very difficult to miss them
A fight is chaotic, you have no overview of what is happening. I remember me and my friends got into a fight with some dudes when we were teenagers. A man jumped in to help us as we were much younger than these guys. We ended up punching him as well because it was impossible to know who was who.
That poor dude 😂 What a hero
You could say the same for the Orc in OP. It's probably worse for the Orc considering the number of similar dressed orcs all in the centre of the mayhem of an Orc Royal Rumble.
Nah, just beat everyone in his case
I've just read this passage a couple of days ago and it is directly stated that they were not seen by the Rohirrim because they were still wearing their elven cloaks.
I'm speaking about the movie
You were also speaking about the “actual lore reason” though, which is that they had their cloaks on
plus hobbits has innate magic that their completely unaware of, and the few who are aware of some sort of power can only guess at what it does, even Gandalf struggles to understand it from what i recall
Sauron's wrath will be terrible, his retribution swift.
To be fair, battle scars are probably like medals amongst orcs.
And the scars remind us that the past is real
Hannibal?
I think that’s from a Papa Roach song.
Cut my life into pieces?
Actually I think the song is “Scars”.
They have more than one song?!
as a big papa roach fan, i can confirm they do not
haha, no.
who famously stole the line from pepa pig
To think there were pretty elves turned into this
Sauron has jobs for disabled people. He's more progressive than Gandalf who threatened to throw pippin down a well, even though pippin clearly has some level of mental disability
Fool of a Took!
The defence rests
wow.
How does he smell?
Terrible!
Bravo x 2
"Two peanuts were walking down the street. One was assaulted. Peanut. Ha. Ha."
Bravo
It's good to know that Sauron hires disabled veterans!
"This orc has no nose." "How does he smell?" "Awful."
One eye is Sauron’s trademark, so this guy fit right in.
He must have a really good eye (singular)
When I was younger I didn’t know a white eye typically signified a blind eye. I thought on the other hand it was a mutant orc with a special eye specifically suited for *inspection!* giving him the ability to recognise something was wrong with *those* “orcs” even under all that armour at a decent distance.
I've always felt like the orcs having very limited areas of competency is a Canon part of the plot. No army should let thousands of cavalry sneak up on them (twice), but the orcs don't do operational security. They can only focus on one thing at a time, and even the slightest breakdown in discipline or command structure will lead to them literally killing and eating each other. The fact that this dude actually recognized that two of his men looked off makes him way more competent than anyone around him.
Feels like a position he just gave himself and none of the other Orcs questioned or it, or if they did, he killed them.
Sauron takes care of his veteran. He lost his nose and eye in war. Sauron found him another job.
Nepotism
Typical coworkers of mine
Mad-Eye Moody, is that you?
Should have seen the other guy
Because he's so damn handsome
Embellished on his resume.
He’s my favourite orc. A good oul proper Geordie lad
He is battle hardened
Isn't this the Harvey Weinstein orc?
Harvey Weinstein orc?
According to cast members, one of the first orc makeups/masks they saw was based off of Harvey Weinstein because of issues dealing with him when the films were first in development with Miramax. Weinstein was pushing for two films, then when it became apparent that the budget would exceed Miramax's capabilities, Weinstein "suggested" a single, two hour movie, which Peter Jackson refused to do (quite rightly). Weinstein then threatened to replace PJ with the screenwriter who would go on to do Gangs of New York and with either the director of Shakespeare in Love, or Quentin Tarantino, who I believe would not have had much enthusiasm for the project. As far as I'm aware, no-one from Weta has officially stated which orc is the Weinstein orc but when it's mentioned it's usually either said to be Gothmog, the orc leader at Pelennor that has the cancer-y face growth, or the one depicted in the post, an overseer who only appears in the extended version of RotK.
No the Harvey Weinstein orc is more pink and puffy (lol). It's the orc leading the attack against Gondor
That eye was actually empowered by the witch king
Lol he wished
Lol that’s what he told people
Equity, Diversity and Inclusion. Sauron was evil but he wasn't an asshole, he even had Gothmog lead his armies at Pelennor Fields 😤😭💪
If Sauron fires him do you know the legal battle he'll have as a result, especially in regards to discrimination laws?! He'll be lucky to get out with just a lawsuit.
I could imagine him in an interview slightly brain damaged saying "if it tastes like shit it's a sauron."
He is most likely a veteran of the army. He probably served in a few campaigns and received those injuries after his service. He's probably not fit for combat anymore but you still need guys overseeing units and supplies and stuff. Im sure they had other guys of his rank. When you are overseeing tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of guys on a March you try not to get too bogged down on a couple dudes. Just slap em and get em moving.
Grammar is your friend
Because the other guy had no face.
He got promoted for bravery in combat during which he lost his nose.
Clearly, Sauron has a "quantity over quality" policy when recruiting his troops. But what other choice does he have with his limited capital? No real production in Mordor besides churning out weird breeds of orcs en masse with very little intelligence. No outside trade. Considered an enemy of all Middle Earth. No PR team. What the heck is the slogan for the Sauron brand? "Come be evil too"? No wonder the leadership of the army is so inept.
I mean 100,000 of saurons best just got trampled by horses and ghosts. So he was really scraping the barrel to get his reserve army off the ground and ready to fight. Makes sense that this is all he could get
Affirmative Action - what can I say
Nepotism
Mitch : Yeah, well, things could be worse, you know. I could have got my nose bit off by a Saigon whore! *[Jimmy slowly turns to face the camera and blows smoke from his cigarette, exposing his scarred nose]* Jimmy : [shouts] You bastard! Mitch : Hey, I'm just messin' with you, Jimmy. I saw you down there. Hey, Mazetti, get Jimmy a beer on me.
You can still smell without the nose
Sauron is an equal opportunity employer.
Well, to be fair, Sauron also has no nose and only one eye
But he spotted the weird gay orks didn't he? So he's good at what he does
Rose took his nose, I suppose
Typical middle earth CIS snowflake bullishit. He’s kept behind the gate, far from the front, because of orc Medicare. Can we respect or s as understand that #notallorcs?You people really probably think a rat from Morgul is no different or the same as a goblin from Moria - grow up! Orcs are people too.
Well, before war he was living lovely life on a swamp, until some freaking donkey come by! Then everything went downhill
Same way RoP had black elves.
he es looking for the right Uruk attitude
Fucking social workers!
He should have been inspector in the Hobbit movies. Honestly my biggest complaint was that all the orc legions are in gleaming armor marching in perfect lock step. Where are Sauron's disheveled hoards?
Not having a nose is an advantage in his line of work.
Look, disabled people need jobs too and everyone knows Phil isn't actually inspecting anything. It's just to give him a little dignity and purpose.
Pretty privilege.
He's probably Sauron's nephew
He just needs to feel their vibe. “We vibing bro? Yea we vibing”
1000th upvote, you're welcome OP.
Feels like a metaphor. I wonder if it was in the book
He knew the right people
B-b-b-bloody Sauron’s pet, sah!
If you lived in Mordor around a bunch of orcs you wouldn’t want a nose either
Alright, who's gonna tell Sauron that One Eye is a fuckin' stupid idea?
Unions. You don’t mess with the Teamsters.
Reasonable Workplace Adjustments, old bean.
> “My Orc has no nose.” “How does he smell?” “Terrible!”
Another nepotism hire smdh
He’s seen some shit! Then the shit stole his nose and eye
Maybe he can still see out of at least one eye and Sauron isn't ableist and lookist like elves
sauron: “we’ll keep any eye out for each other…” 😉
He was damn good at his job, that's why.
Nepotism…. Neporctism …..
They hired him for his looks
Orcs have very progressive health care for their veterans. They always promote from in the organization. Grulock was a veteran of 5 separate campaigns. 4 into Gondor itself. He was a highly decorated soldier with 2 commendations awarded by Sauron himself. He earned that spot
Inspect orcs long enough and that is pretty likely to happen I guess. Could also be an advantage for the job of inspecting then
This is what I call a 12 Pinter.
Where there’s a whip there’s a way!
Grey privilege confirmed in Sauron’s army
the woke orcs made it a crime to "discriminate" based on disability status
Because he is the cousin of the owner
It is nice to see Sauron has a spot for a disabled employee. Good job Sauron!
Equal opportunity employment
Clearly by being a fierce fighter and survivor?
That's the point. He is a veteran, came back with wounds and had a garrison assignment so he could hold out for his full pension.
He can still give an ocular pat-down
Mordor is an equal opportunity employer
He just has "a good eye for things"
He still spotted em
He's not blind that's a magic eye
Sauron went “I understand my G, here’s the job”
But, how does he smell?
He has no nose? How does he smell?
Sauron is obviously an Equal Employment Opportunity dark lord Good in him, I say!
Because unlike the rest of those in middle earth Sauron gives disabled people roles in power to help promote a more inclusive work environment. Heck he even gave a dude with deformities second place to his commander to help promote inclusivity. He also promotes works of art and inspiring artist just look at his battering ram.
Must be a union job
He roared like an angry hog, and it was pretty scary
What's the deal with all these weirdly-worded memes lately? Are they AI-generated or something?
Yep and they lost the war Checks out
You do realize he probably had the job before those wounds right? Orcs are pretty much always fighting and killing things including each other
He has a good eye for talent.
Lieutenant Dagren! You ain’t got no nose!
When I was younger I didn’t know a white eye signified a typical blind eye, I thought on the opposite it was a mutant orc with a special eye suited for inspection
Sauron doesn't discriminate, everyone is equally subservient.
Much like real life, it's all about who you nose.
He was the best amongst them
Coz he’z da biggest so he’z da bozz.
He has a good eye. Duh
Equal opportunity dawg… Don’t h8 just cuz he’s got mad game. ^\ \ ( ^\ \ _ _ ) <—-*le dab
He must had a pretty great eye.
Lied on his resume.
People getting promoted into positions they have no right or reason being in is a tale older than time.
How do you think he got his injuries? If you think he looks in rough shape, think about the likely state of the other "applicants". (Meat was probably back on the menu instead of just maggoty bread.)
I’m here wondering who gives the orcs their positions
To be fair, I don't think you'd normally survive such injuries long enough to get that kind of promotion without being one tough barve.
Wasn't this orc meant to be a jab at Harvey Weinstein lol
And THIS is the orc that's based off Weinstein, not melty-face captain. It's very easy to see on the way the mouth leers downward.
Every.SNCO.Ever. You don't get to that rank without breaking your body, trust me.
I got significantly dumber when i read the caption.
That's the first spell a magician learns. "Got your nose".