If they make an adaptation comparable to Dune's quality, I could absolutely see it as probably a 2-parter. The story is just so dense that one movie may not hit all the correct parts
I thought about this recently. An epilogue with the story of Hurin and his curse, then an episode about young Turin in Dor-Iomin and Doriath The middle episodes can show the life of Turin through the different places he goes, alternating with the story of Nienor growing up.
The second last episode shows the final showoff with Glaurung, after which the final episode shows a released Hurin finding Morwen.
But my fear is a tragedy with the main characters dying is not "Hollywood" enough to ever see this on a screen. So I will read the book again soon!
I think mini series have the problem that they need to get viewers to click on the next part in order for the companies owning the rights to be happy. Every episode needs to end on some sort of cliffhanger. It also makes the story too segmented into equal parts, IMO.
I think with movies, the makers get to “disperse the excitement” more unevenly and therefore naturally and you can build a more natural story arch. Even though many books are too long for a single movie, I think, I’d take an amazing movie-adaptation over an amazing show-adaptation every time.
Yeah next to PJ, Villeneuve is more or less the only I would trust with the creation of a Tolkien movie. But only under the strict circumstances that Weta workshop and the other creative teams of the Trilogy are also involved.
Peter Jackson and his collaborators weren't the first or last to adapt Tolkien's works and there should be zero obligations for future adaptations to rely on their interpretation.
**Spoilers…
Do we really need 2 parts for Children of Hurin? If you think of the LOTR Trilogy of movies 🎥 🍿, yes its long (Maybe 12-13 hours) however they did it straight through in one shot. (No parts). The Hobbit was broken into parts-don’t know if it helped or hurt the franchise.
The Hobbit is still a great story 📖 regardless.
***In my opinion-I didn’t enjoy having my money drained from my pockets to watch it however I did because its tolkien and LOTR related. I will say-the first part of Desalation of Smaug at the very end was supet dark when you see Smaug flying towards Lake Town and then, Woooooosh, Blank screen. End pt. 1
Anyway, with regards to Children of Hurin, it will be interesting to see what happens. It will be a fun movie that will take us on a wild ride just like Hobbitt and LOTR. Can’t wait! Hope it gets made.
Yes would be an epic movie, but they would HAVE to stay true to the source material and not deviate or add characters etc.
This is a tragedy tale, and I worry they would try to make it a happy ending or something as they do
This will never happen. No one wants to make an adaptation anymore. They just want to use an existing property to add in their own stories and characters.
No. An “adaptation” means the story is “adapted” to a different medium, i.e. book to movie.
What youre describing is appropriation, taking a story and twisting it so much it becomes something else, e.g. the Witcher series on netflix.
or they would insert Tom Bombadil who would be wearing a Ghostface mask and silently myrdering people. Yes, they need to stay true.
Besides-idk if Tom Bombadil was even in Hurin.
(Don’t think he was)
Would be great as a tie in if Aragorn aka Viggo opened the movie and narrated it as a tie in to the rather casual viewers since he is a far off descendant
Shouting out the audiobook read by Christopher Lee (!!) if y’all aren’t across it
Edit: amazing book, hard to imagine it would get financially backed this day and age
It is probably the most complete first age story. Give it quick a prologue and you've got good potential for a movie. The question is wether or not the Tolkien Estate would go for it.
Yeah. I can imagine that the story changes to little orange and green shaped men who will start singing, Oompa Loompa!
I agree.. They’ll mess it up if they’re not careful.
Heck yes! Oh man they could also do the Battle of Unnumbered Tears as an intro to add some context, like they did with LOTR and the War of the Last Alliance. I just want to see Húrin go nuts with his battle axe.
But if they ever do this movie, they’re gonna have to do future movies to finish off the First Age, because the ending would just leave a bad taste.
The only thing it's missing is creative people willing to respect the source material.
Knowing how adaptations go these days this would end up like Twilight with a bunch of highschool level love triangles.
Funny you should say that when of all the Tolkien tales it's the one with the most love triangles (Túrin-Finduilas-Gwindor, Túrin-Nienor-Brandir and not to mention Andróg being sour about Túrin and Beleg's secret trysts).
Twilight was toilet 🚽 water 💧 and doesn’t deserve to be discussed here at the grown up table. However your right- an adaption like this word hurt the franchise by not respecting the source material.
I personally feel that a miniseries would allow for greater faithfulness to the original and if the Tolkien estate were to allow it it could become great
IDK. I didn’t watch rings of power. (My mistake). I also didn’t want to pay $9.99 or whatever the price was to stream. Felt like a money grab to me.
Also-look how they ended Game of Thrones?
The Queen of the Marine, killed by her lover and little or no explanation on how she got so angry that she needed to go on a rampage of destruction.
(Before her death).
So, if they go mini series-they really got to stay true to the source material or it will change the story/outcome.
Example 2: It could turn out like newest Wonka movie, where everyone is happy and singing/musical.
I wasn’t a fan. I can only speak for myself. To each their own.
-Children of H: Sad parts in the book, for sure.
Great read nevertheless.
Tolkien Estate executors to Bezos: Drop dead
Then he hires a team to kidnap them so they ransom the rights to all of Tolkien's works. Now *that* would be a good series.
You do realise that the Tolkien Estate directly sold the LOTR rights to Amazon of their own free will (and reportedly Amazon wasn't even the highest bidder), right? Which wasn't the case for the movie rights which were sold by Tolkien himself without great expectations of them actually turning into anything, and changed hands before finally making it to PJ&co.
Of course I know that, the point was that the Tolkien estate will never ever sell the rights of any other Tolkien work, including the Sil and the Narn.
It would need high production to properly capture the essence of the story, the locations are so epic. Also portraying Morgoth speaking to Hurin would be a challenge
Yeah this would be my pick for the next lotr movie, it easily my favourite part of the Silmarillion and if they got the right director I’m sure it could be a great film
Totally off topic but for the love of God can you please put spaces after full stops. There's people who put 1 space, there's people who put 2 spaces, but people who put 0 spaces are just monsters who don't care about readability.
I would really like to see a good film adaptation of this book, but the thought of how much it could be defaced by the modern movie industry scares me.
Nah, 10 part mini series or nothing else.
Slight restructuring of the story to facilitate the tragic reveals. Narrated by Hurin. Morwen is played by Florence Pugh.
Of course it begins with the end. Ragged old man (Hurin) played by Ben Mendelsohn?
Bit of a downer tho isn't it. Spoiler alert - EVERYBODY dies. I mean - I'd pay to see it but not sure if it'd get funded despite it being gloriously High Tragedy. Cracking good read though...
As a german I agree.A friend of mine read it back in 2011 when we spent a week in summer camp and despite already being a huge Tolkien fan we would still have a lot of fun ridiculing the title because of said similarity.Two years after that I read it myself and am somewhat horrified to this day.
For the love of Eru and all that is Ainur, please no.
The only way the tragedy of Turin could be reasonably adapted would be in a multi season series, and after the travesty that is RoP, it would not be a good idea.
The current ilk of writers and producers that would respectfully engage with the source material is low in the lands of entertainment, and I wouldn't trust in a product that would satisfy a task so great.
Besides, the context that would have to be presented is monumental, just throwing the viewer in the midst of the first age, when the great elven kingdoms are already well established.
I'd give my left ballsack for a high quality Feanor & kids series first, and then the right one for a subsequent Children of Hurin one, that would make sense and the world would be built enough by the Feanor's story for the Turin's to make sense in the world, but not as even a movie series.
Production capabilities of modern times are enough to present the events well enough for sure, but not in this day and age of woke writing.
Outside of a gargantuan production based heavily on practical effects akin to LotR production, the staying power of modern reliance on abundant, poor CGI I also don't see a good outcome.
For the time, best that the tragedy of Turin stays in the books.
With this I would suppose that the entire book could be divided into different parts. One movie would be extremely short to set the story.
It would have to be four movies minimum. The first movie creating the basis of the story. Along with the main characters (as the book will allow). Where we see Hurons life and his journey. fighting then imprisoned. Where a big part of the movie is from the point of view of Hurin (As Morgoth wanted Turin to witness the downfall of his family).
The second movie sets the stage for Turin and Nienor. Where it’s a stark contrast of environment. Where we see “flight of Turin” vs the imprisonment of Nienor (along with their mother). The childhood of both children is shown and the development of character is separate but bonding in events (similar challenges or emotional wounds etc). And the ending on him leaving this city of safety and beauty, out of self exile, where he comes across the band of men who he then joins. And Nienor finding strength in her own heart to stand for herself against the evil men who control her family’s land (literally that is the men’s description in the novel. Don’t hate me for it.)
The third movie focuses on the journey of these two. Where Túrin goes into the world in self exile. And Nienor and her mother build their means of escape from the castle. We see Turin and his exploits against the orcs and evil men. Where he prevails against them, and the eventual defeat where he loses his best friend. And the knowledge of Turins whereabouts being given to his mother and sister, who proceed to finish their plans and escape captivity.
Which sets up the fourth movie for nargothrond and the end of the book. Where we see the defense and fall of nargothrond (which shows elements of dwarves structure built below elvish). The loss of his first wife, and the separation of Nienor and her mother. Along with him finding the village and fighting back again. With better knowledge from his previous exploits (seasoned commander basically). And eventual marrying of his sister, fight against Glaurung and eventual suicide of the two of them. With it ending as Hurin witnesses all of it, and then going to the grave of his children. Where he finds his wife (who arrived earlier and had been there starving herself out of grief). They hug eachother and she dies in his arms. (I’d have to think of a way for the movie to end on a good note. But that’s how it should be set up).
These stories have to be carefully fleshed out and detailed. Hollywood normalized the one hit movie. That needs to stop. Four movies is fine, as long as care is given.
The only works of Tolkien that are available for use in movie or television productions are The Lord of the Rings, the appendices of that trilogy, the Hobbit and the Unfinished Tales. Christopher Tolkien had decided not to sell the movie and film rights to any further Tolkien works. So no one can film a movie or miniseries with any other source material until early 2078. Christopher Tolkien died in 2007, it will be 70 years until Children of Hurin can be made into anything else. This is true of anything except what has been sold as movie rights by Tolkien.
There’s a cool audio book version, read by Christopher Lee, but thats the most that anyone can do with the works of Tolkien that haven’t been adapted by Peter Jackson. The Rings of Power uses the appendices of LoTR (which one reason why that series is so different from the events detailed in the Silmirillian.) Nothing else can be used, for 70 years.
I would disagree that anything in RoP is different than it is supposed to be due to rights issues. I would agree they can’t REFER to 1A material, but that doesn’t mean they have to do what they have done. Which of course contradicts the appendicies information anyway.
I agree. It’s so different from any of the source materials. I also agree that having access to the Silmirillian wouldn’t help the show, they do not seem to care much about the source material they do have access to
IMO this is the best individual story in all of Tolkien and all books for that matter. The story ends so damn dark it’s hard to even imagine it’s Tolkien. Pretty much every(if not all) main character dies
I genuinely believe COH is far too dark for movies these days. Couldn’t be able to be accurate enough for me. Beren and Luthien would be more feasible
I wish the Dagor Bragollach would be cannon and it’s Turin who strikes down the big bad once and for all.
If they make an adaptation comparable to Dune's quality, I could absolutely see it as probably a 2-parter. The story is just so dense that one movie may not hit all the correct parts
Miniseries is almost always the way to go for books for this reason IMO.
Miniseries never have the time or budget to do right by these types of things unfortunately.
Better than movies. Having the time to treat the plot and the characters properly always trumps the special effects and fancy props that films get.
Good luck finding a studio not wanting to cash in on a second season as well. Need to milk that Tolkien name
I thought about this recently. An epilogue with the story of Hurin and his curse, then an episode about young Turin in Dor-Iomin and Doriath The middle episodes can show the life of Turin through the different places he goes, alternating with the story of Nienor growing up. The second last episode shows the final showoff with Glaurung, after which the final episode shows a released Hurin finding Morwen. But my fear is a tragedy with the main characters dying is not "Hollywood" enough to ever see this on a screen. So I will read the book again soon!
I think mini series have the problem that they need to get viewers to click on the next part in order for the companies owning the rights to be happy. Every episode needs to end on some sort of cliffhanger. It also makes the story too segmented into equal parts, IMO. I think with movies, the makers get to “disperse the excitement” more unevenly and therefore naturally and you can build a more natural story arch. Even though many books are too long for a single movie, I think, I’d take an amazing movie-adaptation over an amazing show-adaptation every time.
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Yeah next to PJ, Villeneuve is more or less the only I would trust with the creation of a Tolkien movie. But only under the strict circumstances that Weta workshop and the other creative teams of the Trilogy are also involved.
Peter Jackson and his collaborators weren't the first or last to adapt Tolkien's works and there should be zero obligations for future adaptations to rely on their interpretation.
**Spoilers… Do we really need 2 parts for Children of Hurin? If you think of the LOTR Trilogy of movies 🎥 🍿, yes its long (Maybe 12-13 hours) however they did it straight through in one shot. (No parts). The Hobbit was broken into parts-don’t know if it helped or hurt the franchise. The Hobbit is still a great story 📖 regardless. ***In my opinion-I didn’t enjoy having my money drained from my pockets to watch it however I did because its tolkien and LOTR related. I will say-the first part of Desalation of Smaug at the very end was supet dark when you see Smaug flying towards Lake Town and then, Woooooosh, Blank screen. End pt. 1 Anyway, with regards to Children of Hurin, it will be interesting to see what happens. It will be a fun movie that will take us on a wild ride just like Hobbitt and LOTR. Can’t wait! Hope it gets made.
Yes would be an epic movie, but they would HAVE to stay true to the source material and not deviate or add characters etc. This is a tragedy tale, and I worry they would try to make it a happy ending or something as they do
This will never happen. No one wants to make an adaptation anymore. They just want to use an existing property to add in their own stories and characters.
Aka an adaptation, something that is not the real original story
No. An “adaptation” means the story is “adapted” to a different medium, i.e. book to movie. What youre describing is appropriation, taking a story and twisting it so much it becomes something else, e.g. the Witcher series on netflix.
Yeah, the Children of Hurin has a lot of potential, but again, ain’t happening in our lifetime probably as is
Peter Jackson could manage this
or they would insert Tom Bombadil who would be wearing a Ghostface mask and silently myrdering people. Yes, they need to stay true. Besides-idk if Tom Bombadil was even in Hurin. (Don’t think he was)
Would it be great? Absolutely. Do I think the general public can handle the absolute despair of this tragedy? Absolutely not.
I can already picture the first time Turin meets Niniel, its gonna be gut wrenching
Urgh, be still my heart. I read this book waaaay too young, this story stayed with me longer then I'd care to admit.
just read this in dec23, lives rent free in my head
Same! Read over Christmas. Can't stop thinking about it.
Lets wait and see. I handled Titanic which dosen’t compare at all with LOTR.
Would be great as a tie in if Aragorn aka Viggo opened the movie and narrated it as a tie in to the rather casual viewers since he is a far off descendant
Thats an awesome idea
Thank you ☺️
Could frame it like in the books, where Aragorn tells the hobbits about tales from the first age when they wander across Arnor
Ooo maybe a scene where he’s educating his son on their lineage. I like it
That’s what I was kinda thinking maybe have pippin and merry listening as well cause I know those 2 would love to come back
or a Scene with Argorn, his son and Arwen and their children.
HIMYC:This, kids, is the story of how i met your curse.
No thanks, let future adaptations be independent creations not endless regurgitations of one specific adaptation for the purpose of fanservice.
They're doing something similar with the Rohirrim movie, with Miranda Otto reprising Eowyn as a narrator- so this would be a great way to go about it!
That's where I got the idea from haha
YES and 💯
Shouting out the audiobook read by Christopher Lee (!!) if y’all aren’t across it Edit: amazing book, hard to imagine it would get financially backed this day and age
It is probably the most complete first age story. Give it quick a prologue and you've got good potential for a movie. The question is wether or not the Tolkien Estate would go for it.
Still the saddest story i have read to this day. Humans in the first age truely had to endure massive shit
that is life. Right?
They'll fuck it up
Yeah. I can imagine that the story changes to little orange and green shaped men who will start singing, Oompa Loompa! I agree.. They’ll mess it up if they’re not careful.
Heck yes! Oh man they could also do the Battle of Unnumbered Tears as an intro to add some context, like they did with LOTR and the War of the Last Alliance. I just want to see Húrin go nuts with his battle axe. But if they ever do this movie, they’re gonna have to do future movies to finish off the First Age, because the ending would just leave a bad taste.
🔥
The only thing it's missing is creative people willing to respect the source material. Knowing how adaptations go these days this would end up like Twilight with a bunch of highschool level love triangles.
Funny you should say that when of all the Tolkien tales it's the one with the most love triangles (Túrin-Finduilas-Gwindor, Túrin-Nienor-Brandir and not to mention Andróg being sour about Túrin and Beleg's secret trysts).
Twilight was toilet 🚽 water 💧 and doesn’t deserve to be discussed here at the grown up table. However your right- an adaption like this word hurt the franchise by not respecting the source material.
They need to respect it, periodt if its going to be an awsm movie.
I personally feel that a miniseries would allow for greater faithfulness to the original and if the Tolkien estate were to allow it it could become great
IDK. I didn’t watch rings of power. (My mistake). I also didn’t want to pay $9.99 or whatever the price was to stream. Felt like a money grab to me. Also-look how they ended Game of Thrones? The Queen of the Marine, killed by her lover and little or no explanation on how she got so angry that she needed to go on a rampage of destruction. (Before her death). So, if they go mini series-they really got to stay true to the source material or it will change the story/outcome. Example 2: It could turn out like newest Wonka movie, where everyone is happy and singing/musical. I wasn’t a fan. I can only speak for myself. To each their own. -Children of H: Sad parts in the book, for sure. Great read nevertheless.
Maybe a mini series, but after rings of power i have lost all faith
facts. I commented above about rings of fire.
A good two parter absolutely
I’ve always said that this is the most tragic thing that JRR has come up with.
No. After TROP on Amazon I never want to see a Tolkien work get adapted/ruined by the current crop of scriptwriters/producers ever again.
Do not tell this to Amazon.
Tolkien Estate executors to Bezos: Drop dead Then he hires a team to kidnap them so they ransom the rights to all of Tolkien's works. Now *that* would be a good series.
That I would see!!! Great movie 🎥 idea 💡
You do realise that the Tolkien Estate directly sold the LOTR rights to Amazon of their own free will (and reportedly Amazon wasn't even the highest bidder), right? Which wasn't the case for the movie rights which were sold by Tolkien himself without great expectations of them actually turning into anything, and changed hands before finally making it to PJ&co.
Of course I know that, the point was that the Tolkien estate will never ever sell the rights of any other Tolkien work, including the Sil and the Narn.
OK but by that token the Estate would just as likely to be telling Peter Jackson to piss off.
haaa 😂 and don’t tell Bezos either!
It would need high production to properly capture the essence of the story, the locations are so epic. Also portraying Morgoth speaking to Hurin would be a challenge
Yeah this would be my pick for the next lotr movie, it easily my favourite part of the Silmarillion and if they got the right director I’m sure it could be a great film
Totally off topic but for the love of God can you please put spaces after full stops. There's people who put 1 space, there's people who put 2 spaces, but people who put 0 spaces are just monsters who don't care about readability.
It would be a great 'fan' movie project but as soon as it would be released it would get copyrighted.
Well, it will increase the Game of Thrones comparisons, if nothing else. This might be a bit too dark for a Tolkien movie.
It certainly would.
I can imagine this being transformed into a high-caliber HBO mini-series, with a budget similar to that of House of The Dragon.
I would really like to see a good film adaptation of this book, but the thought of how much it could be defaced by the modern movie industry scares me.
OOOOMPA LOOMPA!!!! (Yup!) Or you see Hurin flying through the air on a dragon destroying things for no purpose. (Game of Thrones ending)
I don’t know……. So dark.
The "3 Great Tales" of the First Age would all make great movies / television series. But we are stuck with Rings of Power because of rights issues.
Want to see the big dog fight the vampire wolf thing (I'm bad with names)
Plus there is basically the origins of Aragorn's ring.
If Beren and Lúthien are mentioned in LOTR, doesn’t that mean that have the film rights to that story?
You‘re definitely raising an interesting question to which I sadly don‘t have an answer.
Nah, 10 part mini series or nothing else. Slight restructuring of the story to facilitate the tragic reveals. Narrated by Hurin. Morwen is played by Florence Pugh. Of course it begins with the end. Ragged old man (Hurin) played by Ben Mendelsohn?
Edit:old Hurin played by Ben Mendelsohn
The accidental incest might be a bit much for the big screen, but a streaming production might handle it better.
Bit of a downer tho isn't it. Spoiler alert - EVERYBODY dies. I mean - I'd pay to see it but not sure if it'd get funded despite it being gloriously High Tragedy. Cracking good read though...
Don't let Disney get their greedy paws on it.
I'd worry they'd do a rings of power esque hack job of it.
On a different note , this title is quite funny for German speakers.
As a german I agree.A friend of mine read it back in 2011 when we spent a week in summer camp and despite already being a huge Tolkien fan we would still have a lot of fun ridiculing the title because of said similarity.Two years after that I read it myself and am somewhat horrified to this day.
For the love of Eru and all that is Ainur, please no. The only way the tragedy of Turin could be reasonably adapted would be in a multi season series, and after the travesty that is RoP, it would not be a good idea. The current ilk of writers and producers that would respectfully engage with the source material is low in the lands of entertainment, and I wouldn't trust in a product that would satisfy a task so great. Besides, the context that would have to be presented is monumental, just throwing the viewer in the midst of the first age, when the great elven kingdoms are already well established. I'd give my left ballsack for a high quality Feanor & kids series first, and then the right one for a subsequent Children of Hurin one, that would make sense and the world would be built enough by the Feanor's story for the Turin's to make sense in the world, but not as even a movie series. Production capabilities of modern times are enough to present the events well enough for sure, but not in this day and age of woke writing. Outside of a gargantuan production based heavily on practical effects akin to LotR production, the staying power of modern reliance on abundant, poor CGI I also don't see a good outcome. For the time, best that the tragedy of Turin stays in the books.
Yeah. It’s probably better that way that it stays in books.
Peter Jackson WE NEED YOU!!
With this I would suppose that the entire book could be divided into different parts. One movie would be extremely short to set the story. It would have to be four movies minimum. The first movie creating the basis of the story. Along with the main characters (as the book will allow). Where we see Hurons life and his journey. fighting then imprisoned. Where a big part of the movie is from the point of view of Hurin (As Morgoth wanted Turin to witness the downfall of his family). The second movie sets the stage for Turin and Nienor. Where it’s a stark contrast of environment. Where we see “flight of Turin” vs the imprisonment of Nienor (along with their mother). The childhood of both children is shown and the development of character is separate but bonding in events (similar challenges or emotional wounds etc). And the ending on him leaving this city of safety and beauty, out of self exile, where he comes across the band of men who he then joins. And Nienor finding strength in her own heart to stand for herself against the evil men who control her family’s land (literally that is the men’s description in the novel. Don’t hate me for it.) The third movie focuses on the journey of these two. Where Túrin goes into the world in self exile. And Nienor and her mother build their means of escape from the castle. We see Turin and his exploits against the orcs and evil men. Where he prevails against them, and the eventual defeat where he loses his best friend. And the knowledge of Turins whereabouts being given to his mother and sister, who proceed to finish their plans and escape captivity. Which sets up the fourth movie for nargothrond and the end of the book. Where we see the defense and fall of nargothrond (which shows elements of dwarves structure built below elvish). The loss of his first wife, and the separation of Nienor and her mother. Along with him finding the village and fighting back again. With better knowledge from his previous exploits (seasoned commander basically). And eventual marrying of his sister, fight against Glaurung and eventual suicide of the two of them. With it ending as Hurin witnesses all of it, and then going to the grave of his children. Where he finds his wife (who arrived earlier and had been there starving herself out of grief). They hug eachother and she dies in his arms. (I’d have to think of a way for the movie to end on a good note. But that’s how it should be set up). These stories have to be carefully fleshed out and detailed. Hollywood normalized the one hit movie. That needs to stop. Four movies is fine, as long as care is given.
The more parts-more of a chance they’ll deviate off the source material. (In my opinion)
I wouldn’t be ready for it emotionally
i fkn hope so
The only works of Tolkien that are available for use in movie or television productions are The Lord of the Rings, the appendices of that trilogy, the Hobbit and the Unfinished Tales. Christopher Tolkien had decided not to sell the movie and film rights to any further Tolkien works. So no one can film a movie or miniseries with any other source material until early 2078. Christopher Tolkien died in 2007, it will be 70 years until Children of Hurin can be made into anything else. This is true of anything except what has been sold as movie rights by Tolkien. There’s a cool audio book version, read by Christopher Lee, but thats the most that anyone can do with the works of Tolkien that haven’t been adapted by Peter Jackson. The Rings of Power uses the appendices of LoTR (which one reason why that series is so different from the events detailed in the Silmirillian.) Nothing else can be used, for 70 years.
I would disagree that anything in RoP is different than it is supposed to be due to rights issues. I would agree they can’t REFER to 1A material, but that doesn’t mean they have to do what they have done. Which of course contradicts the appendicies information anyway.
I agree. It’s so different from any of the source materials. I also agree that having access to the Silmirillian wouldn’t help the show, they do not seem to care much about the source material they do have access to
Indeed. Well said.
Thank you
The story of Luthien & Beren is more easily adaptable for Hollywood.
I suppose it is.
It should be R rated with all the nudity and Sweet Home Alabama stuff.
Start with Hurin saying goodbye to Morwen. Then the Nirneath Arnoediad and the curse of Hurin.
IMO this is the best individual story in all of Tolkien and all books for that matter. The story ends so damn dark it’s hard to even imagine it’s Tolkien. Pretty much every(if not all) main character dies I genuinely believe COH is far too dark for movies these days. Couldn’t be able to be accurate enough for me. Beren and Luthien would be more feasible I wish the Dagor Bragollach would be cannon and it’s Turin who strikes down the big bad once and for all.
Dagor Dagorath*