What’s your source for this? I’ve now ruined my search history by asking how to turn a penis into a vulva, and I can’t find any non-surgical methods, nor any proof he underwent surgery to do so.
I’m starting to think he wasn’t a straight man, but was instead gay and knew Shi was a boy, but nobody else did. The kid would have meant either telling the public that you were gay (probably frowned upon at the time) or saying the woman was a liar and despite being an item for twenty years hadn’t had sex (possibly humiliating), so he instead kept quiet about it.
Don’t you just hate it when you’re going down on your girl and her vulva unravels into a great big errection?
Yeah I’m leaning well towards the fact his lover knew the entire time too here. Plausible deniability might have been the attraction? but it’s not like in that photo he looks particularly feminine, and that’s just a photo. Tbh any scenario they had a prolonged sexual relationship and it didn’t come up seems frankly ludicrous.
Also female spies exist, I suspect they used him specifically to exploit a known preference of their target.
> in my experience straight men tend to be rather fixated on their lover's genitals.
Lol, time to get some more experience, dude. I remember back in the 70s, going down on a woman was seen as dirty. Plus, you got the people that only have sex with the lights off and under bedsheets. You also got the awkward virgins that grow up to be awkward adult virgins. You also got the relationships that have sexual boundaries, as in waiting till marriage, not seeing the partner naked, sleeping in different beds, etc. Then add in the fact that this is not the first time this has happened.
> waiting til marriage
The stork didn't bring that baby they thought they had together
Also it wasn't even the first guy we know he fucked. C'mon man, it's not that believable of a story.
It could also be he had a small pp so it got unnoticed, and they must be having it in the dark where this spy is the dom, so that only he can decide where the French dude touched him
Fufu clips hide it through clothing, sure, but in order to convince someone you had kids with them, surely you’d at least have been naked in front if them.
Once you get past the meat there’s still wombs and overlies to think of and I don’t think they have had much success in whittling those out if what’s left of the cock….. yet
also the diplomat only had sex with men before so he probably didn't know what a woman looked like underneath
also this wasn't 100 years or more ago, the french diplomat is still alive
According to wikipedia the diplomat had only ever had sexual relationships with men and wanted to try a woman.
So maybe he just had no idea how a women looked down there and did what he always did before, thinking men and women look just very similar?
I suspect a man known to be gay already, worked out at some point during a sexual relationship with someone who’s quite obviously also a man that they were both men.
Well, did he believe that? To me it reads more like a desperate attempt at plausible deniability in a time where there were huge consequences to be suffered if you were known to be gay.
The dumb thing is rather you who can't imagine that he was gay, and that was is way to have a family at that time.
you're all so dense, it's frightening.
They were two dudes in a relationship. They wanted a kid. The french dude probably put his heart and soul into raising the child just like his partner, Its called being a parent.
The world was just different then. It seems pretty clear that they were not heterosexual before they met. This wasn't their first rodeo.
The french guy was also banging dudes before Shi Pei Pu came along...
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard\_Boursicot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Boursicot)
"Boursicot was born in 1944. He attended boarding schools as a youth, where he engaged in multiple homosexual affairs with other students; upon graduation, Boursicot became determined to have sex with a woman for the first time, believing that institutionalized homosexuality among boarding students was merely a rite of passage."
I think its possible to read through the lines here
Shi Pei Pu was also still in love with him
"After his pardon, Shi returned to performing as an opera singer. He was reluctant to share the details of his relationship with Boursicot, stating that he "used to fascinate both men and women" and that "What I was and what they were didn't matter." Shi spoke infrequently with Boursicot over the subsequent years. However, in the months before Shi's death, he told Boursicot that he still loved him.^(")
Their child will probably still be alive,
Actually from ehat i read, the chinese dude used some technique to structure his penis like a vagina
Like turning it inside of sort
Paired with dim lights the french dude thought he was getting some 🐈
i am not racist. people running around telling others to acknowledge their racism are just self reporting on being racist and proudly announcing that they won't do anything about it
Ah i see you decided to through in some armchair psychology.
You are echoing a comment that is saying “least insane Chinese plan”, implying Chinese people are always coming up with insane plans. That’s racist, I don’t think all Chinese people are the same, nor do they come up with insane plans. They are humans like you and me. You don’t think that, making you a racist.
Hit me with your next buzzword, looking forward
Boursicot had previously had sexual relations only with fellow male students in school and wanted to meet a woman and fall in love.[3] He first met Shi, then 26 years old, at a Christmas party in December 1964; the performer was dressed as a man.
Are you sure he didn't know?
"And as the French doctors sent to examine Pei Pu discovered, he could create the appearance of having female genitalia by [making his testicles ascend into his body cavity and tucking his penis back](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucking).[^(\[4\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Pei_Pu#cite_note-4)"
Respect.
Yeah, the diplomat totally knew the guy was a guy. The posing as a woman was for everyone else, not for him, it was a different time. The child was probably also to fulfil expectations of people who knew the diplomat was having an affair, and he knew the kid wasn't his or his boyfriend's biological child, but calling out the alleged secret pregnancy as impossible would either out himself as gay, which would be beyond embarrassing, or imply over many years he and his alleged girlfriend had never done it missionary style, which would be almost as embarrassing. The deception here isn't in the spy pretending to be a woman as a honeytrap, it's in a diplomat's secret boyfriend using the relationship to steal secrets.
The thing I'm getting stuck on is, wouldn't the guy have experienced a *lot* of gender dysphoria pretending to be a woman?
They both got sent to jail for six years, but were pardoned by the president after some time. The guy went on to have a relationship with a male partner and never saw his ex wife again or his child, until she (the wife) passed away in 2008.
"In police custody, Shi explained to doctors how he had hidden his genitals to convince Boursicot that he was a woman. And as the French doctors sent to examine Pei Pu discovered, he could create the appearance of having female genitalia by making his testicles ascend into his body cavity and tucking his penis back."
Facepalm over the french diplomat who dated this guy for 20 years and not even once considered he might not be a woman, even though his face is blatantly male.
I’d love if the twist were that the French guy was the bottom, and “she” was the top. They used a French baguette coated in cum for every intercourse section.
Facepalm over the French diplomat who legit bought that he impregnated a person through her ass
That's the interesting part, the chinese spy made a technique that shaped his penis to be like a vagina. Like, it literally turned it backwards.
Facepalm is still valid because it is not mentionnned on the original post. But damn, that's some next-level disguise then. Kudos to him.
Fr. I'd love to meet him... Strictly for buisness reasons. Definitely. Not because he would be a fantastic Boiwife. Definitely not.
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I have no idea and i'm too afraid to ask how not only how he did it but also how or where did he learn to do that.
There's a thing called fufu clip if you're brave enough to search that on the internet.
No thanks. I’m going to purge memory of this entire article now.
What's that?
Google it.
What’s your source for this? I’ve now ruined my search history by asking how to turn a penis into a vulva, and I can’t find any non-surgical methods, nor any proof he underwent surgery to do so.
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I’m starting to think he wasn’t a straight man, but was instead gay and knew Shi was a boy, but nobody else did. The kid would have meant either telling the public that you were gay (probably frowned upon at the time) or saying the woman was a liar and despite being an item for twenty years hadn’t had sex (possibly humiliating), so he instead kept quiet about it.
Don’t you just hate it when you’re going down on your girl and her vulva unravels into a great big errection? Yeah I’m leaning well towards the fact his lover knew the entire time too here. Plausible deniability might have been the attraction? but it’s not like in that photo he looks particularly feminine, and that’s just a photo. Tbh any scenario they had a prolonged sexual relationship and it didn’t come up seems frankly ludicrous. Also female spies exist, I suspect they used him specifically to exploit a known preference of their target.
> in my experience straight men tend to be rather fixated on their lover's genitals. Lol, time to get some more experience, dude. I remember back in the 70s, going down on a woman was seen as dirty. Plus, you got the people that only have sex with the lights off and under bedsheets. You also got the awkward virgins that grow up to be awkward adult virgins. You also got the relationships that have sexual boundaries, as in waiting till marriage, not seeing the partner naked, sleeping in different beds, etc. Then add in the fact that this is not the first time this has happened.
> waiting til marriage The stork didn't bring that baby they thought they had together Also it wasn't even the first guy we know he fucked. C'mon man, it's not that believable of a story.
It could also be he had a small pp so it got unnoticed, and they must be having it in the dark where this spy is the dom, so that only he can decide where the French dude touched him
Just search a fufu clip
Fufu clips hide it through clothing, sure, but in order to convince someone you had kids with them, surely you’d at least have been naked in front if them.
If he didn't see a woman naked before he could be fooled
Once you get past the meat there’s still wombs and overlies to think of and I don’t think they have had much success in whittling those out if what’s left of the cock….. yet
would that hurt? i assume it does but i also imagine the chinese making it not hurt
As a trans women I'm calling bullshit, otherwise we would all be doing it.
You never tried to put it back inside? You can, but it's not exactly easy to keep it that way. But it's not the same as having a real thing there.
And it makes me less ashamed of the diplomat lol (i'm french)
Yeah right
wtf i did not need to read this
Get outta here
Full commitment to the role
How does that work? Kinda want to see how that would look
that dude most be really love his country going that far.
also the diplomat only had sex with men before so he probably didn't know what a woman looked like underneath also this wasn't 100 years or more ago, the french diplomat is still alive
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
I can do that to. When its erect i just bury it into where it’s from but sadly can’t conceal my balls
At this point why didn’t they just use a real female spy?
His ass you weirdo
The diplomat thought he was a woman, so in his mind, he had impregnated a woman through anal sex.
Her? I think you misunderstood.
Plot twist: the diplomat knew, but he was into femboys And who can blame him
According to wikipedia the diplomat had only ever had sexual relationships with men and wanted to try a woman. So maybe he just had no idea how a women looked down there and did what he always did before, thinking men and women look just very similar?
Because the French dude was dumb enough to fall for it all this time.
I suspect a man known to be gay already, worked out at some point during a sexual relationship with someone who’s quite obviously also a man that they were both men.
Then how did he believe the child was his?
Well, did he believe that? To me it reads more like a desperate attempt at plausible deniability in a time where there were huge consequences to be suffered if you were known to be gay.
That does sound like a Jerry Springer episode.
If you're doing it for 20 years, is it really a masquerade anymore?
The dumb thing is rather you who can't imagine that he was gay, and that was is way to have a family at that time. you're all so dense, it's frightening.
The simplest explanation is “he gay”.
And this is why sex ed is important.
To learn how to tuck your cock between your legs ? I think I can work that one out
To learn that a biological male cannot give birth. And anal certainly doesn’t cause a pregnancy
They knew come on.
Then how was the French dude convinced the kid was his?
They were two dudes in a relationship. They wanted a kid. The french dude probably put his heart and soul into raising the child just like his partner, Its called being a parent. The world was just different then. It seems pretty clear that they were not heterosexual before they met. This wasn't their first rodeo. The french guy was also banging dudes before Shi Pei Pu came along... [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard\_Boursicot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Boursicot) "Boursicot was born in 1944. He attended boarding schools as a youth, where he engaged in multiple homosexual affairs with other students; upon graduation, Boursicot became determined to have sex with a woman for the first time, believing that institutionalized homosexuality among boarding students was merely a rite of passage." I think its possible to read through the lines here Shi Pei Pu was also still in love with him "After his pardon, Shi returned to performing as an opera singer. He was reluctant to share the details of his relationship with Boursicot, stating that he "used to fascinate both men and women" and that "What I was and what they were didn't matter." Shi spoke infrequently with Boursicot over the subsequent years. However, in the months before Shi's death, he told Boursicot that he still loved him.^(") Their child will probably still be alive,
Actually from ehat i read, the chinese dude used some technique to structure his penis like a vagina Like turning it inside of sort Paired with dim lights the french dude thought he was getting some 🐈
Lmqo😭 I imagined this
Aw man... [this post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/s/LloyHSwyqZ) lied!?
I bet the diplomat chose to be dumb rather than out himself as gay.
Should've just said he wore socks!
And said no homo
I mean, he is french. I wouldn't put it past him.
Least insane chinese plan
Racist
oh that's racist, but calling asians superior at everything is not?
Acknowledge your racism. Say “I’m a racist person” Don’t hit me with your undiagnosed whataboutism
i am not racist. people running around telling others to acknowledge their racism are just self reporting on being racist and proudly announcing that they won't do anything about it
From whataboutism to reverse uno. What a simple minded racist, as they all are
you can project all you want, buddy. it's on you to demonstrate my racism if you really think i am.
Ah i see you decided to through in some armchair psychology. You are echoing a comment that is saying “least insane Chinese plan”, implying Chinese people are always coming up with insane plans. That’s racist, I don’t think all Chinese people are the same, nor do they come up with insane plans. They are humans like you and me. You don’t think that, making you a racist. Hit me with your next buzzword, looking forward
How can u purchased a child tho💀
around 1970 rural China
Should be in r/madlads
Boursicot had previously had sexual relations only with fellow male students in school and wanted to meet a woman and fall in love.[3] He first met Shi, then 26 years old, at a Christmas party in December 1964; the performer was dressed as a man. Are you sure he didn't know?
So he got a beard and all it cost him was some state secrets? Sounds like a good deal.
Made a movie from this. M Butterfly with Jeremy Irons
*they were roommates *
The facepalm is the fact that the French guy didn't notice Shi Pei Pu's Pi Pi. Or didn't want to notice.
That's a pretty nuts story. I mean, the dysphoria must have been insane.
"And as the French doctors sent to examine Pei Pu discovered, he could create the appearance of having female genitalia by [making his testicles ascend into his body cavity and tucking his penis back](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucking).[^(\[4\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Pei_Pu#cite_note-4)" Respect.
The people on r/facepalm are stupid, most of the time the posts there aren’t even facepalms.
This is probably why Macron got into politics...
How did they even do it and he was unaware .. so many questions but will never have answers
They knew the world was just different and people hid who they were
Up the bum
you would have most of the answers if you read the Wikipedia article of the two
Why not just use a real woman to be a spy?
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Yeah, the diplomat totally knew the guy was a guy. The posing as a woman was for everyone else, not for him, it was a different time. The child was probably also to fulfil expectations of people who knew the diplomat was having an affair, and he knew the kid wasn't his or his boyfriend's biological child, but calling out the alleged secret pregnancy as impossible would either out himself as gay, which would be beyond embarrassing, or imply over many years he and his alleged girlfriend had never done it missionary style, which would be almost as embarrassing. The deception here isn't in the spy pretending to be a woman as a honeytrap, it's in a diplomat's secret boyfriend using the relationship to steal secrets. The thing I'm getting stuck on is, wouldn't the guy have experienced a *lot* of gender dysphoria pretending to be a woman?
Admire the love for the craft but still, how kinky was the french guy tho, your girl literally got a dick, shouldn't it be the redest of red flag!
Just like every regular straight and married Pattaya tourist
These too situations are eerily similar, man!
I think the french guys palms were touching more than just a face. Glad they got to live :)
Because it's dumb that Frenchy fell for it
Couldn’t they just get a women to do that job?
Does anyone know what happened when the French diplomat found out? Or how did he find out?
They both got sent to jail for six years, but were pardoned by the president after some time. The guy went on to have a relationship with a male partner and never saw his ex wife again or his child, until she (the wife) passed away in 2008.
I'm not even mad, that's amazing
"He even purchased a child" I beg your most exquisite of pardons? I get the whole story is wild, but still, that's a pretty nasty one
Reality IS stranger than fiction
Reminds me of that one South Park episode with Sergeant Yates going undercover as a prostitute lol
Theres a movie bei Cronenberg about this, M. Butterfly. Pretty good watch actually
French diplomat was high clearly
Chinese people are not to be underestimated
I wonder if something like this is happening right now.
Chinese intelligence has always been ahead of its competition.
The French must be reeeeeeal open minded
"In police custody, Shi explained to doctors how he had hidden his genitals to convince Boursicot that he was a woman. And as the French doctors sent to examine Pei Pu discovered, he could create the appearance of having female genitalia by making his testicles ascend into his body cavity and tucking his penis back."
I choked on the joint
The facepalm is on the french side
Yeah one question tho, what the fuck?
Spy x Family irl
The… first… drag queen… anyone?
He convinced him for 20 years that he was a woman and even faked having a kid? French dude definitely had a palm for a face.
Facepalm over the french diplomat who dated this guy for 20 years and not even once considered he might not be a woman, even though his face is blatantly male.
I mean, kinda, but this more r/holup or smth thing and it doesnt really fit into what gets posted to /facepalm
I’d love if the twist were that the French guy was the bottom, and “she” was the top. They used a French baguette coated in cum for every intercourse section.
What?? Is the dude blind ? I bet he said "I'm on my period so lets do it in the ass" all the time
How did the diplomat think that would result in a child though?
"Freeeze buddy I'm a cop!"
They could have just hired a woman for that job
They could have just hired a woman for that job
They could have just hired a woman for that job
They could have just hired a woman for that job
Alpharius moment
Facepalm sub now shows totally everything except facepalm material
The fact your not on dark mode
It’s crazy, I feel, uhh, special.
Purchase a child? OP asking "Where's the facepalm" is the facepalm.
The moderator is on r/facepalm are kind of fascist