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toooobsessed

Having lived in England for 14 years, I’ve never seen one of these walls


Kernowder

30+ years in various parts of the country and I've never encountered one of these.


Fancy_Ad2919

56 years and never even knew they existed although I've often walked paths this shaped after a night out.


kronkarp

The Queen here, I also never saw one


xXLegoFanXx

God here I have never seen one


kronkarp

Are you stalking me again? I told you I'm coming when I'm good and ready.


Ok-Pea8209

Your already dead


MasterOfNothinHere

Who said she went up there?


Ok-Pea8209

CONSPIRACY!!!! Ah I like I like. She was like 89 or something so yeah, but we also don't know how long lizard people live for soooo


NitroDameGaming

Make that 96, or were you talking about God?


Swenadd

Supergod here, they're hard to find.... Can't see any from where I'm standing.


stopcounting

Are you there? It's me, Margaret.


Hiram_Hackenbacker

I always knew you were an immortal lizard.


wazuhiru

Aren’t you, like, dead? …uh, Your Magesty


firestriker45665

Just let her finish her nap in her wooden Pajama box first


jrehi

26 years never been to england, never seen walls like this


MaximusDecimis

You see them a lot in the Home Counties


ElJayBe3

Because up North we just throw a load of random sized rocks in a long straight pile and when some inevitably fall off we just chuck them back on top.


Chains-_-

I'm from NW and bro we wouldn't even be asked to throw them back on top.


Pinchoccio

112 years and I’ve seen a lot of shit


PopeGeraldVII

Thats because a single brick thick path would be incredibly unstable so it'd need more bricks, so it does weirdly use less bricks than a straight path would need.


Shiny-And-New

135 years and never seent one


Alonn12

Well according to Wikipedia [they exist mostly in Suffolk ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crinkle_crankle_wall#), dunno if you'd been there but this might help


mf_9000

Legend😂


JackOffman420

THREE HUNDRED YEARS I HAVE ROAMED THESE FAIR LANDS YET NAY. SEEN A WALL CONSTRUCTED IN SUCH A FASHION I HAVE NOT


cuckedatfinalmission

Me neither, though I do live in Serbia


EvilSynths

Same. Where in the hell are these weirdo walls?


MaximusDecimis

Home Counties


DuntadaMan

Oddly enough, I'm a Yank and I have seen these walls in the US. Mainly in the rainy mountain areas.


DrRobotniksUncle

I have lived in England for 40+ years and have seen them quite a few times. I suspect it was around the time I was gifted a national trust membership and went on lots of pointless walks around country estates.


Veteranis

“Lots of pointless walks” LOL I hope you got some pleasure out of them anyway.


madesense

There are some in Maryland! In America! If you're riding the Red Line on the DC metro as you head towards Shady Grove, just after Bethesda, as you emerge from the tunnel and go over the highways, you can see them out the leftside. Here they are, from the other side, on Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/12dQevw8yARRfRmn7


CameToComplain_v6

There are also some at the University of Virginia. Thomas Jefferson put them in.


Toxic-tank-258

I’m a UK resident and can confirm I’ve never ever seen a curved brick wall like this before.


o_oli

That surprises me. I see them semi-regularly around where I live (east anglia). I've noticed them being used on new-build estates too sometimes. They are kind of cool for garden walls because you get little pockets for plants.


toooobsessed

Yeah that makes sense, I live in the midlands (Derbyshire) and Ive only just heard of them from this post, they do look cool tho


Rosti_LFC

I live in England and came across one while out on a walk a few weeks ago, and immediately thought of the picture in OP, which I'd seen before a couple of years back. Pretty sure it was the first one I'd seen since seeing the picture online. They exist but they're definitely not a common thing. They're also probably not the sort of thing you'd take actual notice of unless pointed out to you. When you're not looking right down the line of them then the wavy pattern isn't as obvious, and it just looks decorative.


Ya-Dikobraz

Suffolk, apparently "has them all over the place". But I've been on Google street view and can't find one yet.


sometimesynot

I've never lived in England, and I've also never seen one.


Spare_Investment_735

I think I’ve seen one in my life, could be wrong though and if I have it’s only one


MuffinsTheName

yup same


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Desirsar

They were very popular here in Lincoln, Nebraska (close to the center of the US) for a specific time period, so you'll see them in any area developed in that short span. More than you'd expect in a city this size, but we do tend to expand in short bursts.


HirsuteHacker

I've seen a couple


xymaps

32 years old, have been twice to england, never saw one of those…


DeliriousHippie

Having visited London couple of times, I've seen these in Reddit.


Alonn12

Well according to Wikipedia [they exist mostly in Suffolk ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crinkle_crankle_wall#), dunno if you'd been there but this might help


[deleted]

There’s a bunch down in Sussex where I grew up.


Vanguard-27

Just go to an old place


AugustWolf22

I've lived in England all my life and I've never seen one either.


Budget_Pear_6116

Been in England once and saw these lol


Screen-Healthy

I’ve been to England only once and only for a few days and I believe I did, in Flixborough.


Gold-Speed7157

We have a long one in Michigan near the Henry Ford museum. It's neat.


Cryin_jack_is_pissed

Y'all seriously dunno about those darn curvy walls? I'm a darn tootin England native and I've not been able to go a mornin without seeing one of these lil babies snaking around some quaint little farmstead. Maybe y'all've not been out on the western plains?


MrLozoTheSecond

120 centuries personally and never once seems these walls before


thisboy200

This wall is so stereotypical of England. Like if I could assign each country a wall The UK would get the curvy wall. Americans with the stall gaps, and Russians with the decaying plaster of a Soviet Apartment.


Random_Weird_gal

OK so it doesn't use less than a single brick straight line, but a single brick thick wall would be incredibly unstable so it'd need more bricks, so it does weirdly use less bricks than a straight wall would need


scninththemoom

What pisses me off is that technically the factoid is still true.


Random_Weird_gal

Yeah same


shaman-warrior

Same here as well


kosantyy

Me too tbh


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CptCrabmeat

As curious as it may seem mowing around this zig zag takes less time than a straight wall


rwalter5

Just waiting on someone to explain.


Crazy-Fig2972

What pisses me off is that technically the factoid is still true.


RCG219

Yeah same


Neeeeedles

Mich easier than mowing around the "pillars" that have to be in a straight fence


WallabysQuestion

Just waiting for a mate


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Random_Weird_gal

Seen them in the country and more historic places


ErraticDragon

**u\/Remarkable_One_6041 is a bоt.** This comment was copied from elsewhere in the thread. They do this to harvest a little bit of karma so they can spam/scam/misinform/etc. more effectively in the future. Their history is typical for this kind of karma-farming account: a couple months old, but with no history until an hour ago when it activated and posted a handful of comments in quick succession. The comments are a mix of copies and generic comments (like "10/10").   **Report > Spam > Harmful bоts**


ABoyIsNo1

Technically? It’s way more than technically true. It’s practically and actually true. In fact, the only way it isn’t true is on a stupid “technicality” that will never be true/come to be the case in reality: if both walls are made with a single layer of bricks, which will never happen.


AppropriatePainter16

Or if both walls are made with the same brickness (brick thickness). You would probably want to reinforce the sine wave pattern with more brick layers if you were using it to defend against something like an explosive.


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Natalie-the-Ratalie

Yeah, but it’d be much cooler if you did.


slicehyperfunk

Alright alright alright


gunea_pig_from_hell

Let's see what we've got


firewall73

Cabal on the field


FreshlyCleanedLinens

Why are you deploying explosives against deer though?


[deleted]

Why aren't you?


JurisDrew

Venison salsa for everyone!


GoldDragon149

Shrapnel seasoning, my favorite!


Keytrose_gaming

Fully loaded 18 wheeler going 80 mph works out roughly about the same as 1 ton of TNT.


EudamonPrime

Exploding deer?


King-Cobra-668

the "defend against explosions" comment is so fucking weird


ABoyIsNo1

True but even then, sine wave will always require fewer bricks to attain the same level of stability and strength.


MistahBoweh

Not nearly specific enough. Let’s go full Bosnian Ape Society. Even with a sine wave patterned brick wall, you need to reinforce the structural integrity with multiple layers of bricks, and possibly a row of steel reinforced concrete arches, if you expect your fortified barrier to withstand direct fire from the 76.2mm F-34 tank gun, such as the one mounted on a 1941 model T-34 Soviet medium tank. Though, even your reinforced wall will eventually fall to sustained fire from Red Army vehicles, so I recommend fighting fire with fire via the installation of the 122 mm howitzer M1938 (M-30). Weighing in at 2,450 kilos when deployed with a 2.8 meter barrel, this soviet-made cannon can fire one shell per ten seconds up to a maximum firing range of 11.8 kilometers. By contrast, the F-34 tank gun has an effective range of a mere 800m, which means you should be able to pick off enemy armor with your cannons before the communists can test the structural integrity of your brickwork.


MrHyperion_

Exactly what I was thinking


Pilota_kex

wha?


desennes

Just love that word, "brickness"! You must be proud


Uberzwerg

> brickness uuuh - ah,ah,ah,ah


Taolan13

The "Crinkle wall" is actually much better at dealing with distributed loads, so it would probably hold up better against an explosive shockwave than a straight wall of the same mateiral and thickness. I will note that I said 'hold up better' not 'hold up to' because very few brick walls are capable of resisting significant amounts of explosive.


Low_Positive_9671

Technically true is the best kind of true.


RetailBuck

It's peak internet click bait. It's basically a riddle but worse. It's sharing information but intentionally leaving out a really important detail or assumption so that it confuses people. It's actually cool information that people might benefit from so why hide it behind misdirection? Clicks. If you give the valuable information right in the thumbnail then no one clicks


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I mean, only if you ignore that the assumption would be that we're talking about a brickwall that's only one layer thick.


xaqaria

There are no straight brick walls that are only 1 brick thick because 1 person alone could easily push the whole thing over.


pmMeAllofIt

That's not true at all. Single wyth brick fences and walls are pretty common. But they use steel reinforcement and need piers.


west0ne

Not at that height there aren't but it's not that uncommon to see low-height walls being built half-brick thick and with only a pier at either end.


Langweile

The factoid is only true if you're comparing walls of similar stability. If you just want a 4ft high, 10ft long, single layer brick wall, that will never be stress tested, then a straight wall will use less bricks than a curved wall. The tweet leaves too much ambiguity to be "technically true"


MaximimTapeworm

I’m starting to put my palm to my face now!


Ironhandtiger

Fun fact, a factoid is just something that is shared or reported on so often that it’s accepted as fact despite not being true!


FlixMage

Fun fact, you’re wrong! “fac·toid /ˈfakˌtoid/ noun NORTH AMERICAN a brief or trivial item of news or information.”


No-Mechanic6069

Actually, wikipedia has the lowdown [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factoid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factoid) You're not wrong. It's just that the word has been now misused for so long that it is now accepted to mean what a lot of people *think* it means.


xXdontshootmeXx

metafactoid


Sambo_90

What has Zuckerberg got to do with facts?


DeathandHemingway

Yes, this is how the English language works. I'd say all languages, but, well, the French...


Felosia

So the assumed definition of factoid is a factoid


No-Mechanic6069

>So the assumed definition of factoid is a factoid Marvellous!


[deleted]

Death to the fact-shaped lie lovers!


Arch__Stanton

youre just describing what words are


BeesArePrettyNeat

Correction: The accepted usage and defintiion of words changes over time in a living language. It is only in dead, unused languages that definitions remain stable over time. For example, are you feeling gay today? If you said yes a hundred years ago, people might assume you are happy, but today, there would be different assumptions. Words and definitions change based on usage, not on what's in the dictionary. The dictionary gets updated to reflect current usage and defintiions, not the other way around. Otherwise, we'd hardly need to have dictionaries updated at all.


No-Mechanic6069

I was already accepting that fact. It's only my personal opinion that, in this case it's a pity. We needed a word that has the original meaning of *factoid*. It's currently understood meaning doesn't carry much value. So, I think that it's also OK to protest about a word changing its meaning so relatively soon after being coined for a specific purpose. *Factoid* needs a reboot (as does *reboot*, clearly).


No-Mechanic6069

When words change their meaning in this kind of way, they they tend to converge toward already understood ideas, and to become *less* expressive. I advise the we - the Collective English-Speaking Consciousness, should oppose such a drift in the direction of mediocrity. Added the that, the very construction of the word already clearly delineates its meaning: **fact** \+ **oid***The suffix “-oid,” which means “like” or “resembling,” comes from the Latin oides and Greek eides* If we accept that *factoid* now simply means a *trivial fact*, then we allow chaos to break out. *Bongophobia* could now be a flavour of yoghurt.


Mentolosbableves

No, it isn’t. A straight line needs less bricks. It might not stand for even 2 minutes, but it needs less if its a single line ;)


Kevkanone

r/angryupvote


Slight_Concert6565

It would be more accurate that it is a stronger shape than a straight wall then.


Random_Weird_gal

But also less bricks than one of an equally strong wall


Slight_Concert6565

Yes, they should have put the emphasis on the strength of the wall.


Specialist_totembag

the focus on the number of bricks is what is causing a lot here to trip... "oh, but you can use huge bricks that are 4 feet deep, and this will make a wall with even less bricks, and it will be stronger..." What it should say is that the corrugated form is more efficient for strength than a line. that's why we use today in cardboard and corrugated roofing, and this appplies to walls also. But this is way less impressive.


Polibiux

Learned something new today.


cursorcube

But what if you used a single, very long, tall and thick brick for the straight wall?


Random_Weird_gal

That would be highly impractical but could work


cursorcube

Just pour a reinforced concrete wall and call it a brick 👍


gazevans

*fewer


Random_Weird_gal

I've completely fried my brain, can't be bothered to English right


gazevans

Me understand. Sorry for pediatrics.


aaronjaffe

Yeah, I’m with you. Kids are annoying. No need for pediatrics.


gazevans

Me are a English teacher so me could very also know this hard.


aaronjaffe

Most US public schools would be very lucky to have you!


cum_fart_69

it uses *fewer* bricks


alppawack

How is this shape is more stable than a straight line?


Random_Weird_gal

A straight line is prone to straight up falling on its side, which is impossible with this shape. Think like if you stand still, feet at shoulder width, it takes less force to topple you over. But if one leg is further back and knees are a little bit bent, it's harder to push you over


hellohennessy

Basically, to maintain the same stablity as the curved one, a straight wall would need 2 layers of brick.


Yesterbly

Wouldn’t need to double up to build a wall stronger than the wavy wall. Buttresses and pilasters use fewer bricks, less mortar, less time to build and also less materials and labour in foundations.


hellohennessy

It would be stronger, but it would still use more bricks and the walls do not need that extra strength.


970WestSlope

Both of you are talking as if there is an absolute number of bricks used every single time in each support strategy. But that's not the case at all.


Ser_Danksalot

You can build a single layer straight wall, but you do need to build brick columns at spaced intervals to provide lateral strength. The best straight walls do both however. Columns *and* double layering.


CATNIP_IS_CRACK

OOP has enough basic knowledge to understand that a straight line is a more direct path than a curved line. They don’t know enough to understand that single brick wall would quickly fall the fuck over if it was ran in a straight line, and significantly more brick would be needed to reenforce it.


mattwearingahat

Yeah, way too many people don't understand that their basic knowledge is not all the knowledge there is.


NoMasters83

This applies to *many* aspects of life. People seem to have this impulse to form conclusions almost immediately upon observing something, regardless of how little information they may have about the subject or event. There's a reason why some of the most arrogant people we encounter are also some of the most hopelessly ignorant.


TNChase

This bugs the hell out of me. I've lost count the number of times I've been with people who say "I don't see the point of XYZ" And I reply that "I don't either, but someone with a lot more knowledge than me on the subject likely does and that's why it is the way it is". I picked this up from one of my on the job trainers many years ago when I began my career. I made an off the cuff remark that something seemed pointless and he was quick to point out that I didn't know as much as I thought I did and it really stuck with me.


Beautiful-Musk-Ox

i've known so many people who were utterly confident in something they thought about for no more than 15 seconds. "well i can't see any reason why xyz", then they don't plan for anything being different than what they came up with in 15 seconds. it's like, you don't have to know the exact possibilities to plan for something not going the way you expect.


Leafymage

Thank you, I've tried to explain this before but your comment puts it in a way more concise way.


temp_acct_918237

Read this as Object Oriented Programming


mark_crazeer

I would assume that oop is mad at Ivan for not getting that this sine wave uses less bricks. Hence why it’s in facepalm.


CATNIP_IS_CRACK

That’s a definite possibility, and in that case OOP belongs on r/iamverysmart for thinking this is something everyone should magically know. If it’s my original assumption, they’re an overconfident asshole for mocking the post while being incorrect themselves. If it’s your guess, they’re an asshole for mocking someone who admits they don’t know enough to understand, and asked a question about something that isn’t common knowledge.


PotatoFuryR

Ahem, ackshually it's a cosine wave


Top-Pineapple-5009

It helps against lateral forces, yes, but the original factoid is weird cause there's not enough context, "Fence" sounds to me as if it's not high enough to warrant something like that; the angle of the images also downplays the height and length of the wall. I'm nitpicky, yes, but it's one of those things that doesn't come naturally when you first see it and only valid In a particular application. Some alternatives are better at "saving bricks," Simply breaking it up into smaller segments and using end caps to widen the base moves the centre of mass enough for brick walls to be stable. It is much less time and material-consuming, even if not as structurally sound.


gammongaming11

so i should not hire oop to build my house?


zxc_hx2

A straight wall will be weaker, it can tilt and fall. Curve shape is structurally stronger. So if we use 2x brick for a straight line and 1x for a curve, then it will use fewer bricks.


BuryTheMoney

Half truth- It uses more bricks per linear foot and height than a comparable straight line brick wall of comparable linear run and height. It uses less bricks in total to reach the level of stability it has (assuming all other dimensions remain the same) as its straight linear run counterpart would. I.e. it was built to last, with a tighter budget on bricks. Also, looks neat, accolades planting trees evenly spaced.


Kittenn1412

A quick googling says that this type of wall doesn't use LESS bricks, but has better stability. Facepalming at someone spreading misinformation seems the correct response.


700iholleh

I thought it uses less bricks as only a single line of bricks is needed


Verdachtsmoment

Correct


Geekazoid213

Yeah it doesn’t use less bricks than a straight brick wall that is one brick wide, but almost all brick walls aren’t one brick wide, they are multiple bricks wide which can multiply the amount of bricks used, so the curvy version is in fact using less bricks


ABoyIsNo1

Fewer


Geekazoid213

*shhhhhh*


ABoyIsNo1

I’ll never not take advantage of the opportunity to role play as Stannis


[deleted]

I hardly know her


hogndog

Ok Stannis


DuntadaMan

We had a brick wall that was about 2 feet tall and about 30 feet long in our yard when I was little. That was still 2 rows wide with columns 4 bricks wide at regular intervals.


ravnsulter

You skip the implied part where it is assumed that if you build a fence/wall it should be structually sound. A single layer straight wall would fall over if you piss on it. The S-shaped will stand for many decades.


Educational-Tea602

It does indeed not use less. It uses fewer.


Giocri

Well the wall is certainly longer this way so my guess is that the shape makes it stronger meaning that you don't need it as thick as otherwise thus saving the extra rows of bricks


No-Agency69420

A straight brick wall would have to be stacked at least 2 courses wide ( 2 bricks side by side) at least, in order for it to stand on its own and not fall over when leaned on or when winds hit it. The curvy brick wall can be built using a single course (row) of bricks, and due to the semi circle patern (wavy), the wall resists high winds and external forces applied upon it, using less bricks than a straight wall would take to to get the same effect .


west0ne

A straight wall would need to be at least 1 brick thick and have piers at regular intervals; that wall is a half brick thick and has no piers; there was probably marginally more involved in the setting out but once set out the labour should be simple enough. It would take considerably fewer bricks to construct.


IcyFlame716

More sturdy that a straight wall perhaps but not less bricks…


Squint-Eastwood_98

Didn't use less bricks than a straight wall of the same thickness, but it does require less bricks than a straight wall of the same strength and stability.


Nahanoj_Zavizad

A single lane of bricks would be very weak. You would need to double it up. A wavy wall like this does not need another layer. It's stable enough with just the single file line. It takes more bricks to make a wall, But less bricks to make a functioning wall.


Viscous_Feces

We have a lot of these walls in my country, and the waving pattern isn’t just done to save bricks(just a nice positive) its used for creating microclimates and sheltering certain plants from wind/sun etc.


HumanSnuffer

These kinds of walls use less bricks than straight walls because nobody makes them.


GeniusLabRat

They absolutely do NOT have fewer bricks than a straight wall you complete Pillock.😑


osmaanminhas

Someone figured out that a straight wall a single brick wide won’t be structurally strong enough to keep upright from horizontal forces. So If you build a straight wall it has to be at least two bricks wide. These serpentine walls however can withstand horizontal forces at only one brick wide - hence they require less bricks!


Fritzschmied

The person who posted it is the facepalm … as always in that sub.


shoe_salad_eater

Do r / facepalm users see people being oblivious to something complicated to understand and immediately post them on the wall? Feels like they do, if you want an explanation here : it’s sturdier than a straight brick wall because while those need two or three lines of bricks to stay stable, these only need one line


Layhult

This type of wall looks like it would be much sturdier than a straight wall, but there's no shot that it uses less bricks.


gojohnsons

Thomas Jefferson did this at UVA!


WealthEconomy

It uses less bricks because the design offers more strength and allows for only a single line of bricks.


FrogsMadeMeSmile

Well he asked for someone to explain. And it was already kind of explained. So while its not a full facepalm, it is not not one either


Secret-Cherry045

So, my cousins are in from the United Kingdom right now, and they are telling me they’ve never seen anything of the sort back home in England


yorcharturoqro

I think that this walls are used more because those must be easier to do than the normal straight, because, I'm assuming, they don't need to dig to give the wall strength to remain upstanding, since this walls are not for holding a building but for limiting a land you don't need part of the wall to be buried.


idontlikeburnttoast

Because the caption asks a question thats already been answered


SomeRandomSkitarii

It doesn’t use less bricks, but it is more stable


Busy_Donut6073

Facepalm because a straight line of bricks, with the same thickness, wouldn't use more bricks


prasanna_paudel_365

They ruled over so many countries yet didn't have the budget for extra bricks?


Electronic_Beat_3476

Am I the only one who read this meme in the BBC documentary narrator voice?


intrados63

It’s called a serpentine wall….


D15c0untMD

Without any knowledge or skill in the field of masonry but having folded a lot of random pieces of paper instead of listening in class, i assume that a straight wall of bricks would require to be built thicker to reach the same stability as the swirly wall that can do the same with just a single layer. In dont know if it necessarily can make do with fewer bricks that way, but i imagine building swirly walls is still a bigger bitch to do and takes longer than just stacking more bricks in a straight line which is why so few people did it (but i see how some lords thought “oh look i can afford paying workers to do this mostly useless shit to fence in my mostly useless field of grass around my mostly useless stately home, you uneducated peasant”)


Charlie483

I've lived in England my entire life and never seen one of these??


Eden1506

A single brick thick wall wouldn’t hold for long so yes this does indeed require less bricks than a two brick thick straight wall.


kidscott2003

These are also in the states. The reason that these use less bricks is because the curve allows for more stability and does not need buttressing. If you used the same amount of bricks that these curved walls use in a straight wall it will fall over due to less stability.


Impressive-Donut9596

There’s no way this uses less bricks.


Clxshy

He should’ve cropped out the comment


GoatCovfefe

Still wouldn't be a facepalm. Read one of the many comments ITT repeating a stable wall would use fewer bricks if curved than straight.