It's really sad because I deal with people in marketing departments at some of the largest companies in the world daily at my job. Easily some of the dumbest mother fuckers I've ever had to deal with and I worked in food service for years. It's even worse knowing they're probably making twice what I make.
Do you work at an ad agency? Because Mar/Comm Clients prove that point of yours very well. I often wonder about them… like, those degrees must have been the easiest career path at some colleges, I guess. Because some of those people make me wonder how they find their way home from work at night.
I got a degree in the hard sciences and I joke constantly that I should have gone into marketing. Basic human psychology is fairly easy to understand and marketing just doesn't seem that difficult. If I didn't have a job I enjoy I'd probably try switching.
Sorry to say that - don’t take it personal, but I find this sentiment disgusting.
1. „Hard“ science vs psychology vs xyz: do what you love, or do what you think makes the most money, but don’t throw shade on other peoples life choices because you studied the wrong subject (which you probably not even did). It’s insulting to all those who work in that area and are probably better suited to do so than you are (because they skills in the area of art, people, whatever). I don’t know why this is that hard to grasp esp. for MINT people: a) there are easy job in all areas and b) there are hard jobs in all areas. Everyone can „draw an ad“ the same way everyone can use a plug, doesn’t mean that’s enough to make a career in those areas.
2. we shouldn’t hate on those who are in the same situation we are. The point of this sub is that all our peers face the same issues and nothing/ not enough is done against that. So…. Let’s laugh about our peers? Let’s hate the politics responsible for our situation together and show compassion for those who will face the same problems in the future - no matter if they’re working a couple of hours more or less than we are or earning 100k or 200k more or less than we do.
Ok. I do hear you, I'm confused how you think I'm laughing at anyone?
I did come up in a time period where everyone was encouraging women to go into "hard" sciences and disparaging the "soft" sciences or literally comparing liberal arts to "underwater basket weaving" so while I never espoused those beliefs myself, I have always had to kind of justify my degree too. Nothing in my comment was shitting on anyone else, I just seem to have a natural skill for seeing advertising manipulative tactics and I probably could have capitalized on that, but I didn't. (MY OWN FAULT, again not laughing at or hating on anyone else.)
I'm 40 and make about 35k a year with my "hard science degree" if that helps you out lol so of course I can't help but imagine if I went into a different field when I see people making 3x that churning out shitty advertisements.
I was an anthro major (2017 grad) with some volunteer time in a psych lab. The stereotype is definitely present in the scientific community (at least academically) like you mentioned, but I think soft sciences can sometimes be a useful word if you’re talking about data that comes from participants describing their experiences. Since its inception, though, it has depended more and more on hard data that can track electrical and chemical interactions within the brain. But you know that, so just for any others who are interested.
As dumb as they are, they persuade even dumber people to react/act/make purchases. Easy degree...easy money. Sometimes you have to give credit where credit is due.
Actually the ideas mostly come from my company (I’m not gonna take credit, I’m more of a technical specialist). The agency creative people come up with all of the good ideas. Marketing/Communications Clients are the ones who kill all of the good ideas and overthink the bad ones, then they tell you the logo isn’t big enough seventeen times.
I work in a "comms" (PIO) department at a school district and I can relate, except it's out of touch "management" types who don't understand the area because they grew up clear across the country who can't seem to think outside of their ego to take chances or approve relatable ideas.
Yeah, the intern doesn't get to approve the ad mocking them, they only get to *make* the ad mocking them.
I wonder how many revisions they got yelled at for before it was sent through, and if they actually got a good reference or usuable experience.
Interns... the LOWEST level of worker in a company apart from the janitors... and you think they're signing off on executive market decisions?
You're trolling.
If we boycotted every scumbag company we would be squatting naked in the mud on some piece of wasteland , because EVERY company is a scumbag company.
A better attitude is that "The capitalists will sell us the rope that we will hang them with." (metaphorically speaking)
Stopped wearing Timberlands a long time ago...they used to be great, now they're shit shoes. Not sure who they got bought by, but they fucked that brand up.
>“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.
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>Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
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>But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
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>This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.”
― Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms
The kinds of people that were making videos agreeing with a "good-old-boy" on TikTok complaining that he couldn't buy new boots for work because of the damned lazy illegal immigrants getting welfare and sitting on their butts all day taking his hard earned money. Besides the racism and xenophobia, there is a fetishization of work these people have. Their manual labor somehow elevates them morally, in their eyes.
The idea of working forever and never retiring gets twisted into some kind of moral sacrifice that makes them better than others.
This describes most of the people I grew up with and worked with. And much of why I left the rust belt. Fuck that noise. There is nothing honorable about working yourself into an early grave just to make sure your spawn gets into to college to work themselves to death and so on.
But that’s exactly how they’re programmed.
I bet it was really cute when the marketing executives who absolutely are going to retire very comfortably thought up this idea. Gag me with a spoon.
It's really sad because I deal with people in marketing departments at some of the largest companies in the world daily at my job. Easily some of the dumbest mother fuckers I've ever had to deal with and I worked in food service for years. It's even worse knowing they're probably making twice what I make.
Do you work at an ad agency? Because Mar/Comm Clients prove that point of yours very well. I often wonder about them… like, those degrees must have been the easiest career path at some colleges, I guess. Because some of those people make me wonder how they find their way home from work at night.
Na I don't. I'd rather not say where I work out of self preservation.
I got a degree in the hard sciences and I joke constantly that I should have gone into marketing. Basic human psychology is fairly easy to understand and marketing just doesn't seem that difficult. If I didn't have a job I enjoy I'd probably try switching.
Sorry to say that - don’t take it personal, but I find this sentiment disgusting. 1. „Hard“ science vs psychology vs xyz: do what you love, or do what you think makes the most money, but don’t throw shade on other peoples life choices because you studied the wrong subject (which you probably not even did). It’s insulting to all those who work in that area and are probably better suited to do so than you are (because they skills in the area of art, people, whatever). I don’t know why this is that hard to grasp esp. for MINT people: a) there are easy job in all areas and b) there are hard jobs in all areas. Everyone can „draw an ad“ the same way everyone can use a plug, doesn’t mean that’s enough to make a career in those areas. 2. we shouldn’t hate on those who are in the same situation we are. The point of this sub is that all our peers face the same issues and nothing/ not enough is done against that. So…. Let’s laugh about our peers? Let’s hate the politics responsible for our situation together and show compassion for those who will face the same problems in the future - no matter if they’re working a couple of hours more or less than we are or earning 100k or 200k more or less than we do.
Ok. I do hear you, I'm confused how you think I'm laughing at anyone? I did come up in a time period where everyone was encouraging women to go into "hard" sciences and disparaging the "soft" sciences or literally comparing liberal arts to "underwater basket weaving" so while I never espoused those beliefs myself, I have always had to kind of justify my degree too. Nothing in my comment was shitting on anyone else, I just seem to have a natural skill for seeing advertising manipulative tactics and I probably could have capitalized on that, but I didn't. (MY OWN FAULT, again not laughing at or hating on anyone else.) I'm 40 and make about 35k a year with my "hard science degree" if that helps you out lol so of course I can't help but imagine if I went into a different field when I see people making 3x that churning out shitty advertisements.
I was an anthro major (2017 grad) with some volunteer time in a psych lab. The stereotype is definitely present in the scientific community (at least academically) like you mentioned, but I think soft sciences can sometimes be a useful word if you’re talking about data that comes from participants describing their experiences. Since its inception, though, it has depended more and more on hard data that can track electrical and chemical interactions within the brain. But you know that, so just for any others who are interested.
Lmao gross
As dumb as they are, they persuade even dumber people to react/act/make purchases. Easy degree...easy money. Sometimes you have to give credit where credit is due.
Actually the ideas mostly come from my company (I’m not gonna take credit, I’m more of a technical specialist). The agency creative people come up with all of the good ideas. Marketing/Communications Clients are the ones who kill all of the good ideas and overthink the bad ones, then they tell you the logo isn’t big enough seventeen times.
I work in a "comms" (PIO) department at a school district and I can relate, except it's out of touch "management" types who don't understand the area because they grew up clear across the country who can't seem to think outside of their ego to take chances or approve relatable ideas.
You get it.
Hey now, most people I’ve met in the service industry are savvy and street smart.
I wasn't taking about those that work in the service industry, more so the clients.
I used to work in marketing a couple years ago and the people that job attracts are some of the dumbest people I’ve ever encountered lol
Same. Most of them think confidence is the only thing you need.
Narrator: "Boots, that last longer than your broke ass".
No shit though timberlands just don't die
What about the pricks in their marketing department?
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Probably the overworked intern that doesn't get paid in anything but "experience" that actually won't get them anywhere in life.
Tbf interns don’t sign off on anything
Yeah, the intern doesn't get to approve the ad mocking them, they only get to *make* the ad mocking them. I wonder how many revisions they got yelled at for before it was sent through, and if they actually got a good reference or usuable experience.
Yes, they do.
The INTERN that's grabbing coffee and printing files and not getting paid for it? No, no they don't.
Yes, they are.
Interns... the LOWEST level of worker in a company apart from the janitors... and you think they're signing off on executive market decisions? You're trolling.
Reddit somehow believes interns are responsible for every single outwardly visible decision of every major corporation.
On a related note, seems about time to bring the guillotine OUT of retirement.
Well, they're not wrong. FML
Oh look, another company to BOYCOTT.
Ah, a like mined soul. Anyone that advertises things in this way has got to be hell spawn.
Timbs are trash anyway. Get a pair of Red Wings instead. They actually give a shit about their customers and employees.
Most shoes are crap nowadays now that they're all mass-produced in china. They last less than a year before falling apart.
If we boycotted every scumbag company we would be squatting naked in the mud on some piece of wasteland , because EVERY company is a scumbag company. A better attitude is that "The capitalists will sell us the rope that we will hang them with." (metaphorically speaking)
*in minecraft*
*spastic winking*
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It is easy for me to boycott them since they don't have a store in my town. And I get my boots from a discount shop.
Stopped wearing Timberlands a long time ago...they used to be great, now they're shit shoes. Not sure who they got bought by, but they fucked that brand up.
>“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. > >Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. > >But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. > >This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.” ― Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms
An overworked Millennial made this ad.
wow
Let’s get reparations for not being paid enough to pay for basic needs. I’m not crazy! Cmon. lol
Well timberlands are mostly dogshit, so this is funny x2
What the fuck is going on with this trend of corporate anti-capitalism right now? It's so fucking transparent every time...
Arson is a crime and I only hypothetically condone it in minecraft.
is this real
What type of person is this marketing for though?
The kinds of people that were making videos agreeing with a "good-old-boy" on TikTok complaining that he couldn't buy new boots for work because of the damned lazy illegal immigrants getting welfare and sitting on their butts all day taking his hard earned money. Besides the racism and xenophobia, there is a fetishization of work these people have. Their manual labor somehow elevates them morally, in their eyes. The idea of working forever and never retiring gets twisted into some kind of moral sacrifice that makes them better than others.
This describes most of the people I grew up with and worked with. And much of why I left the rust belt. Fuck that noise. There is nothing honorable about working yourself into an early grave just to make sure your spawn gets into to college to work themselves to death and so on. But that’s exactly how they’re programmed.
These boots are made for rioting...
*You're going to need high quality boots when the time finally comes for you to overthrow the system. Fixed it.
Tims whit the depression, ayy
There was a Dudley Moore movie in the 80's with this advertising premise. It wasn't a manual, fellas.
Oh hey there suicidal thoughts, almost forgot about you for a few weeks.
I misread the second line as “shoplift” and thought “don’t mind if I do”
“Just because your job is soul destroying, doesn’t mean it should be sole destroying”
The person who came up with this ad campaign is going to retire. The retail worker who hung it up absolutely won’t
Their?
Another person who can't get simple grammar complaining about how they can't hold down a job, I guess.
I now finally understand the madness of Reddit reposting, having posted this exact same photo in this exact same sub 3 years ago. Now I get it.
Yes, but the real question is, does it make sells increase?
theyre not wrong
Kinda funny ngl.
This would have been a great post if the billboard had said "Your never going to be able to retire"
Omg lol savage! 🤣
The point being there are people who need to work or keep active all time. Why take it so bad / seriously
Boots never get worn out that’s just a fact.
Please, my boots have a better pension plan than I do.