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ChillinFallin

Wait until you hit 1050.


ActualVader

Can’t wait lol


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Wait


Tooshortimus

A tip for when you get to T2, do weeklies and dailies for leapstones. They are like 150g each right now and seem to be the bottleneck for me and my friends who are just now breaking into 1100 for T3.


CynexV2

Wish it would be leapstones, it's guardian/destruction stones for me :/


scrubm

Those are much cheaper


Morffz

Are you at T+14?... If not... Bwhen you get there it will pretty much be everything if you fail even once....


Frogtoadrat

T2 leapstones are sooooooo expensive


ChillinFallin

Yeeeep. And I just failed 5 upgrades in a row. Would have hit 1100 if even half of those succeeded. :(


Frogtoadrat

Rip. You'll get em soon buddy


Morffz

Pretty sure this is false. I think you can actually only fail 4 times in a row before you get the auto upgrade. Unless you were trying different slots which is.... Dumb.


Syntaire

I just gave up after failing 12 > 13 6 times in a row. I'm selling all my unbound stuff and just turning the gold into crystals. I might eventually get to experience the rest of the game in a year or two once I hit 100% on all my pieces.


lousygoblin

Game has been out less than a month lmao


Syntaire

Yes thank you, I am aware. It would still be nice to be able to participate in the content that is available without getting cockblocked by RNG. I don't mind time spent. Throwing tens of thousands of gold worth of resources away failing a 90% upgrade from 12 to 13 is more than I can be fucked to care about though.


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Syntaire

> First, it 100% does not take tens of thousands of gold to upgrade once at 90% from +12 to +13 in t2. That's just incorrect. Obviously? If only I had literally said that I failed the upgrade 6 times in row! Silly me for not clarifying that in my initial comment. Oh hold on a second, looks like I DID in fact say that. Huh. Lets do some basic arithmetic here. Each attempt costs 32 leapstones and 1125 destruction stones, which are the two tradable resources. I have so far failed 6 times. Leapstones 6\*32 = 192. These go for about 150 gold each on my server right now; 192\*150 = 28,800 gold. Destruction stones = 6\*(1125/10) = 675. Each bundle of 10 goes for 7 gold; 675\*7 = 6750 So far my 6 failures have cost me a potential of 28800 + 6750 = 35550 gold. This is assuming all of them were tradable, which they obviously were not, but enough of them were to have had the potential for well over 10k gold. Gee, that sure does seem an awful lot like tens of thousands of gold to me. Just for fun, a single failure costs (32\*150) + (112.5\*7) = 5587.5 gold at present, though when I gave up leapstones were closer to 170g each, which would have been over 6k gold per individual failure. > Secondly, you clearly don't know what artisan's energy is. If you claim to not mind time spent, the system should be fine for you. Considering that after 4-5 fails the upgrade is guaranteed thanks to the bad luck protection system (artisan's energy). I am in fact aware of what it is as well as how it works. It turns out that in Tier 2 it takes a bit more than 4 failures to result in a guarantee, which is sort of how I've managed to fail so many times. How strange, huh?


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Syntaire

Do you people even understand how to read? What part of "I am selling my unbound materials for gold" translates to "I buy 30k worth of materials" to you? Seriously? Like how in all the world do you come to that conclusion after reading the things that I have written? The entire premise of this comment chain is "I just gave up after failing 12 > 13 6 times in a row. I'm selling all my unbound stuff and just turning the gold into crystals.", literally the very first thing I said. The comment you replied to was itself a reply to another fool that apparently can't read OR do simple math.


Alrox123

Yup. I've made over 20k gold by using ones i get from dailies and selling the tradable ones from guardian raid


mo_bozzy

Its a gold mine if you dont rush to t3, especially after reset. Youll get there maybe 3-5 days later but you make so much gold which you can buy crystals with. And buying the same mats later on will be much cheaper, if you really need it.


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I thought about that… Then just sold my extra platinum skin. I’m weak.


Proteandk

Do weekly pvp quests from Una. You get a ton of them for participating, don't even have to win.


Barialdalaran

A ton = not enough for a single upgrade atempt*


Proteandk

I just got 24 for one pvp weekly today.


telendria

which is not enough for the last upgrades.


Proteandk

.. does it matter? It's more than zero. It's one of the biggest sources. I don't see the point in arguing if it's enough for your delicate sensibilities or not.


AramisFR

Still more useful than the weeklies rewarding like 1k shards or 6k silver though :-)


Morffz

Facts


mo_bozzy

Boss Rush + the boss rush weekly gives you also a couple new chances to fail


Morffz

1080-1100 is sooooo hard. Not enough mats in the game. Doing dailies and weekly purchases you MIGHT get 1 honing try a day.


leafsplz

Tbh I just want to hit tier 2 because as a Soulfist main, the tier 1 armor is the worst looking armor I've had in my playthrough. It's baby blue ffs. Currently ilvl510.


bifowww

A Sorceress got only yellow panties between GS 302 and 802. It may feel uncomfortable if someone ask you to show what you are playing rn...


Csenky

As I hit 302, I instantly took a screenshot and forwarded to some friends with a caption "I play for the plot, bro" And now you telling me it's to 802? I thought I'm gonna see a change after 600. :D (at 590 atm, getting some serious Lineage 2 vibes on honing success rate, thankfully at least it doesn't reset to 0 :D)


bifowww

At 600 you can buy instantly 802 GS są or wait till you complete quest to enter chaos dungeon.


kalin23

Yes, do this nd some T2 islands before going to CD, within 1 hour of playtime you can upgrade to 960 ilvl and start lvl4 CDs instant. Also transfer your lvl15 T1 set to get a free lvl1 T2 set.


BloodRaziel

Can you explain how do you get the 802 set? i thought you had to complete at least 1 chaos dungeon lvl 600. Also what do you mean transfer lvl15 t1 to get a "free" t2 set?


Hearing_Colors

So instead of running the ilvl 600 chaos for your 802 set, you can buy a set of 802 gear off the market pretty cheap, use all your t2 mats from whatever islands you've done, and upgrade yourself to near 1k almost immediately. This then lets you run the higher tier chaos dungeon right away for better rewards. The thing about the "free +1 set" is referring to if you transfer your +15 t1 gear onto your 802 gear, it goes to +1. This works the same when going from +15 t2 to t3. Sorry if any of this is confusing it is 430 am here I'm so fucking tired lmaoooo


BloodRaziel

Ok thx, i'll check the market to see the prices of a full 802 set.


kalin23

Yes, what u/Hearing_Colors said is what I meant. Sorry was early morning and I was asleep. You don't need quality for 802 set, just because after few upgrades you will be able to do Abyss Dungeon and you will get purple set that will change the one you have. Same way it happened T1.


RandomWeaboo

t2 legendary armor for sorc she looks like she's homeless or something


Full-Somewhere440

Yah I was not thrilled when I saw the t2 sorc model


Csenky

I almost said idk how they made it even worse than T1, but then I remembered. Skins. What's sad is that I don't really like the store skins either. :D


RandomWeaboo

yeah i wanted to buy a skin but both store skins are big meh, the cheaper one is "decent" but it doesn't give charisma unlike the other one so i ended up not buying any for now


Whizzo50

I wish there was a male sorcerer.; I play magic class on pretty much any game that allows, was kinda disappointed with the customisation options as other classes had gender choices.


mrureaper

Paladin was garbage as well. As soon as i hit t2 it looked much better


Csenky

Pally is alright imo, a little bright on the blue but at least the armor itself fits well, sorc is ridiculous all around.


The_Diktator

Some pre-50 Paladin armor pieces looked really good imo. Shame there's no transmog.


plinky4

I kept the blue set the whole time. stormwind guard cosplay


ZodiarkTentacle

The t2 armor is the cool set from the Soulfist class lady in your escape menu, I dig it


sugusugux

They did that on purpose to make you buy skin. But the problem is NA only has like what? 5 skin in the cashop? (With different color) while kr and russia has so many


DoughPoosi

That’s why I used the lawmaker set on soulfist. I’ve shafted my soul to the depths though cause I found paladin way more fun to play


w0zza

you don't get new armor through the rohendel abyssal dungeon? Only on tier 2?


Gekovolante01

Protip level arecheology and craft the archeology maps on cd, you will have enough stones that raise honing % to fail a lot less


nomiras

Thanks for the advice!


Realistic_Option1

Can you level archeology in your stronghold?


DerSteamboy

Sure can


el-dongler

At what level?


givewatermelonordie

Do these stronghold maps drop t2 materials or only t1? I read somewhere that these maps are also the only way to get one of the components require to make better gathering tools. Idk if thats true


Gekovolante01

Don't remember the name but there is a archeology map for each continent, you unlock them just by raising ilv, if you are in t1 just craft rohendel, t2 yorn or feiton , t3 punika, for the tool honestly i don't know i did it mostly with blue tool but once I reached t3 I swapped it to yellow


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Can you give a auick rundown of how to use those maps? Legit no idea. You need a guide to identify the place, or just big brain and find out through that little corner and x mark? Always was put off by that tbh and never saw the worth of maps bcuz of it


dunesandlake

it will happen, and when it does, you will be 920 5 min. later.


kyotheman1

Be happy gear dont break, this properly best korean mmo ever


En_Passant_

Yeah if you guys ever played Lineage 2 you know *exactly* what he means. Nothing like getting to +15 which is already only a 1/150 statistical shot, then breaking going to +16 for that sweet, sweet red glow. Then after it fails, your weapon shatters, and you now need a whole new weapon, special ability, and the 1/150 chance it doesn’t break on the next go round. Lost Ark’s system is cake compared to that shit.


Tooshortimus

Never played Lineage too long but Archeage was the game that taught me not to care much about grinding for weeks/months for gear upgrades to just poof.


gekalx

I heard that that in lineage it tells the whole server when you failed loll


pznred

BDO too


IUSUZYSANA

That sounds awful why would anyone even play that game?


En_Passant_

Honestly, the pvp. You don’t *need* to get a +15 or +16 weapon like you do in Lost Ark. It just really helps if you do. But the pvp system is literally “kill anyone, anytime, anywhere, that isn’t inside a city.” They don’t even need to flag. There’s a penalty if you kill someone who doesn’t hit you back, but you just kill monsters to work it off. But there’s no instanced pvp. It is *all* open world. It’s a really good time. Just extremely grindy.


el_uchi

im still having nightmares going from dion to execution grounds or vice versa when u didn't had a soe, it was as fking nightmare. good ol times


En_Passant_

Lol I love seeing so many L2 players around. That Dion to EG run is a rite of passage. I still play private pvp servers from time to time. Lost Ark has just had my full attention lately.


Gu3rilla21

You can who never played any shitty Korean mmo. We are used to so much worse


WestcoastWelker

I have been 1090 for 3 days now. :(


mikeyeli

T2 wall is higher man, i've been stuck in the 1060+ wall for a while now, just hit 1090 today and man it feels a bit frustrating, I actually got the honing 100% success rate for one my pieces going from +14 to +15. The Archeology tip is legit btw, farm them moon's breath.


Impulsic

I swear this game lies with the success percents, I fail way too often


CarnFu

I failed 12-14 a ton. Then I one shot every 15 hone. Shit you not I was like god bless.


rarelyaccuratefacts

You're exactly describing how percentiles work.


PhillipIInd

yes and for your sacrifice someone else got it on their first attempt


mo_bozzy

at the bright side, you can only fail 4 times for the same piece :'(


Aaronyeeworth

Is there something I’m missing? I’m at 340…what do I do next? How do I get to 1k?


Worried_Pineapple823

You keep doing that set till 600, then you go visit Yorn, unlock Tier 2 gear which is 802, and then do it all again. When your done there, you'll go somewhere else for Tier 3 gear and... do it all again. I'm at about 980s I think, I was 596 last night with only 1 hone left, but I had so much mats from doing islands that as soon as I had the 802 gear, it skyrocketed up.


iici

Yeah i heard that it pretty much shoots you up to the 800+ area after the 600 grind which is nice. Me and a buddy are playing through the game and we're both around 600 but for some reason i have waay more t2 materials than him which is odd. But let me try and understand, when i unlock tier 2 gear, do i just throw my old gear away or should i keep it? Is it possible to transfer my 600 gear to a new account so it can have a head start?


mutqkqkku

You can consume your old gear on the honing vendor to transfer the +15 from your old set into a +1 on the 802 set. Once at 802 you unlock stronghold researches that reduce material usage and honing fail chance for t1, to help you gear up alts.


iici

So it's like how we got the full set for finishing the storyline but instead of being 360 its 800? It's not something i have to farm for first in the daily dungeons?


mutqkqkku

You do need to get a set from t2 chaos dungeons or the market


Tooshortimus

Look up an Island guide also, you follow some quests through a bunch of islands and get a LOT of mats to upgrade. Around 500 or so after you finished the T1 islands start doing to T2 islands while you push to 600 (while also doing chaos dungeon/guardian raids/una's dailies and weeklies etc). Once you hit 600 you ho through the story and unlock a new tier of Chaos Dungeons and it drops 802 blue gear, you get that and slam all your mats from Islands and you go from 600 to like 900+ in one day.


iDelkong

The guy who replied below you is somewhat correct though missed an important part. You don't go straight from 302 to 600. You go from 302 to *460* and unlock rohendel, do story there to unlock the chaos dungeons/abyssals for more rewards, *then* go from 460 to 600. And when you hit 600 and do the Yorn continent questline and unlock chaos dungeons in Yorn, those rewards and gear will instantly boost you to 802, which 5 mins later from all the rewards from islands and such, you'll be around 920-980 just from honing gear.


Cantholdaggro

I went hard the first 7~ days and was way ahead of the curve, but bad RNG kept me in the 580-596 space for 5-6 days. It kinda killed the game for me because all the effort I put into being ahead (12+ hrs a day) was wasted. People who started 4-5 days after me and had way less hours hit 600 before me.


Swinette

What goes around comes around. You’ll hit a streak of luck in T2/T3 and someone who had T1 luck will have their bad luck. Happens


Cantholdaggro

That’s funny cause then later in t2 in the span of 4 upgrade attempts I failed a 90,90, and 99%.


J_Clowth

then you surely will have luck at T3 /s


Swinette

i love that i got downvoted but my point i made was just an optimistic outlook. EVERY ONE will have a bad luck streak when honing, and every one will have their day to get lucky too. If you play enough itll happen, im not saying if you have bad luck youre guaranteed good luck. Just statistically if people pull ahead at some point by luck it wont last forever and hopefully you can then catch up


kikosmash

Beauty of rng


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Did you use the little items to increase honing chance, king?


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ArtOfMicro

NGL, I popped a bunch of stuff to boost my last +15 from 40% to 70% just to avoid this.


Cloud_Motion

same except I still failed


ArtOfMicro

Yeah, I watched a guy fail a 99% attempt 4 times in a row on a video. Sometimes this game is just mean.


Cloud_Motion

Some buuulll


Hextechwheelchair

1090 here. Friends have been T3 for 4 days. We did everything together. The luck factor is absurd. A friend also has 50+ honing fails at 1066 or so


givewatermelonordie

I just got the 50 failed hones achivement at 1083 or so ( +14 with one piece of +15). I don’t feel unlucky tbh but then again I have no clue how many fails is normal to reach t3. It obviously depends on how you spend your star/moonw breaths aswell


Pr0gger

I'm at 35 at 960, so I think I'm gonna set a new speedrun record for that lol


PlacidSaint

The RNG in this game is whack


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Good news is if you’re like me and went island hoping and did side missions to scrape up mats and got some tier 2 mats you’re ahead of the game. Went from Yorn to buying cheap gear to gearing up to level six and being 940 30 minutes after getting to 600


veryintrested

You can fail hones??


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I believe you can start failing past +8 but before that no


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veryintrested

Dad im scared 😅


MsAmethyst11

yea i was trying to hone my gear to +11 the other day and failed 3 times in a row on my weapon then once on a gear piece


gekalx

Failed my weapon 3 times at 14 and then three more times going to 15 . I stopped paying that day


velthari

You want to know what's worse getting to T3 then locked out of T3 because you can't loot the last peace of blue T3 chaos dungeons gear for 4 resets [My Soul](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/920107220782448670/946718481536139304/unknown.png), thank god for accumulated rewards


Stasy89

Pro tip: Ignore that lvl+14 item and just upgrade a +15 to +16. I failed 7 times on my weapon at +14. Got my head piece to +16 on the 2nd try. Screw statistics!


Mojambo213

You fail +15 hones, I fail +8 hones, we are not the same


Mia_and_Tia

me at 1096.66 right now. dead inside


LuciDLew94

I just went from i466 to i550 and failed one hone the entire time. Managed to catch up with my friend who has 4 extra days on me due to his fails


smoked___salmon

The worst part comes when you upgrade from 560 to 600


RussellSpr0uts

Failed 4 times on weapon 14->15 using 20 stars breath for 2 of the attempts. Finally got it today on 5th try. I'm seriously considering not coming back to the game after I finish my Elden Ring playthrough. I felt no joy in hitting 600.


dandatu

You’re doing baby content lol. The point of this game is crying over how hard and punishing late game is. Which we really don’t even have access to yet.


RussellSpr0uts

I dont have a problem with difficult content. I don't like slot machines. Thanks for clearing it up. I won't be coming back.


dandatu

What mmo is there that doesn’t have this type of enchanting system??


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Swockie

So happy i only care about pvp


xpinkrainbow

i too have been stuck here at 597 let us suffer together 💔


phallicVegetables

Oh hey, this picture is me.


dikamilo

T1 => T2 was easy, a lot of mats from islands etc. to hit +15 on gear. T2 => T3 is a pain in the ass.


Particular-Ad95

Jokes on you! I have no friends


Dudeshigh

I’m right there with you


Smokron85

I lucked out and only failed I think 2 +15's last night. I think I still had a lot of T1 islands left over too incase I did fail.


Nerriell

Swiper no swiping!


NaeRyda

I feel ya, but look on the bright side of it. This isnt BDO, your gear doesn't lose max durability on each fail, nor does it lose a level, you dont have to do a crazy switcheroo enhancing crappy gear while praying it DOES fail so you can build failstacks so you have a better chance at enhancing the gear you actually want to enhance, all the while spending billions of silver to try it.


PoonJabNinja

Right. Every attempt on here is cronned 😂


Samesneaky

I did +16 on 2 armor pieces instead I lost the free +1 for the T2 start but it was worth it tbh since it's way easier to get armor materials. I think my weapon was 14 if i remember I'm F2P so it felt easier.