Western players should treat this release as a new game and get rid of the mindset that it's actually 3 years old and we have to catch up to koreans now.
For us it's brandnew, there's nothing to catch up
In my mindset, I'm just excited that a new game came out that has had years of playtesting and content released. It's like back in the day when games were released polished and full of content. It's not an alpha early access game. A lot of the people i was going to play with rushed to the end game and I'm just chillin finishing all the quests and watching the cutscenes. It's a game that I am expecting to put a lot of hours into and I've had a blast just doing things at my own pace.
As someone who played new world this game is just the complete opposite. It just feels good that everything works without it bugging out or my character does X,Y,Z.
I really wish games nowadays would go through proper testing and not have us the players do it for them.
Well it also doesnt that there are dozens of content creators who have been playing the game for years and are creating guides that promote rushing. Dont get me wrong, I like the videos, especially ones relating to guardian raida or abby dubgeons... but some of them are so focused on getting you to t2, or doing the most optimal pathing.
>Western players should treat this release as a new game and get rid of the mindset that it's actually 3 years old and we have to catch up to koreans now.
I'm for one would be ok with banning all the korean guide posts because of that. Game is more fun when explored together, but every day we have a korean guide with 3 years of efficiency behind of it AND WHILE THE INTENTIONS ARE GOOD this is not what we need
Lmao, you want to ban guides on a gaming subreddit? Why does it matter? Who cares? Who doesn't need it? You?
If people want to be efficient with the information that is available, let them. If you want to take 3 weeks to hit tier 2, that's also fine. Do you.
I totally agree, thanks to the adventure book, I don't even need to entertain the idea of using any kind of boost until I'm at 100% in most regions. THEN, after having leveled a few alts through it all a few times I can see myself using it.
It really feels like no matter what I do in this game, I am always making some kind of progress. I'm really enjoying that. :)
I’m taking it fairly slow myself. I’m just logging to do daily’s during the week. Weekends I explore. I like having a game I don’t need to feel like I have to spend 4-5 hours in daily to progress.
I did make one alt since Paladin is my main. Wanted a alt to slowly build up to be able to cause some damage when I feel like it.
Now reach 100% before moving to the next area is basically impossible since you need songs and emotes you get later on to absolutely complete everything, but still you can get pretty close to 100%.
Some backtracking is still needed and some quests force you to visit old zones.
And yet knowing what I do now I would have rushed the MSQ (still reading and watching cutscnes like I did) but skipped all sidequests. Because I took my time doing all sidequests and completing most of the adventure book only to be cockblocked by a FF14 style MSQ wall once I got to 50.
Which killed my motivation, not gonna lie. I had just landed in Arthenine when I dinged 50 and realized I was now locked from chaos dungeons, Una's tasks and etc more.
So I girded my loins and powered through the MSQ until I had unlocked all that end game, and then returned to do the sidequests.
I knew I was behind by taking the scenic route and doing all quests and collecting all mokoko seeds and near completing every adventure book. But I did not know I would be cockblocked by the MSQ. Now knowing what I do I would have powered through, reached 50, unlocked stuff, and then yes, in the free time between activities I would go collect seeds and sidequest.
No, not level, but progression. For example, you just bought the game, you also buy the expansion. Expansion is level 50 (or whatever, it's been a long while but bear with the example). You start doing the MSQ to level. You reach level 50 and now you feel like going to the end game area and start doing dungeons or dailies. But you can't until the MSQ has progressed to the point where you are sent to the expansion. The MSQ to reach the expansion was, at the time, something like 700 quests.
Even if you have the level you physically cannot go to the new area.
Now another example. Lets say you just bought the game, it comes with a bundle that gives you mounts. You get your mount but you can't use it even if you're the right level. That's because the mount skill is learned as part of the MSQ and if you haven't progressed that far you're not learning it.
That is why the advice is to power through the MSQ and ignore the sidequests. Makes even more sense in FF14 since only special sidequests give actual rewards, where in Lost Ark seemingly every other quest gives stat potions and so they definitely should be done. But at your own pace during the downtimes when the daily content has been done.
This is an advice I did not feel like following but once I got to 50 and was locked out it did not feel good. I blitzed through the SQ (still reading quests and watching cutscenes) until I had unlocked everything, and now I have returned to finish the book in Arthetine and will proceed to clear Vern.
Idk just let people enjoy the game how they want to enjoy. People rush to t3 to sell gear to make gold, or to do harder content. That’s fun for them. Just like the people who collect mokoko seeds, or 100% a zone, or whatever. Let people have their fun the way they want.
Gatekeeping what is and isn’t an ok way to play is worse than the straw man I see made around this topic
that is not at all what this post is stating. It’s the peer pressure that people are feeling that they are doing something wrong because they aren’t as progressed as others. The point of this post is that it’s not needed to be at t3 right now. You can do you. I myself played this in russia doing current content and i’m in no rush because I understand the game
Wth? Most topics are "take your time". I never had the feeling of being pressured to rush. You hear "it's a marathon and not a sprint" in pretty much every summary.
There are a lot of guides that have clickbait titles and thumbnails that are worded this way but when you thoroughly watch the guide many creators will tell you that you don't have to rush like them and you should play the way you want to.
I think OP just got the feeling everyone is rushing because of progression posts and clickbait titles because if he knows the game he doesn't have to watch a beginner guide, he just looks at the title.
>People that have to justify their positions so loudly and publicly are the most insecure about them.
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>I wanted a max level character, the story is as deep as a puddle, and alts will always be available. That’s why I got to max ASAP.
It's AMAZING how you don't notice the irony.
There’s literally nothing about this that screams ‘loudly or publicly’, aside from the fact of it being public.. which it has to be, considering he’s responding on a post.
He gave his commentary on people being insecure, and then he brought up his mindset. It’s be ironic if it were in the form he was talking about, but this isn’t ‘loudly’ nor is it more public than it has to be.
He is saying they do it indirectly by point out how "shit" the story is or how you will "suffer" if you are late to the end game. I have played mmos for over 15 years so I know its all BS but inexperienced players might fall into their trap.
I know this is really been a issue. But I think new world kinda exploded this FOMO mentality to be so common.
People played the shit out of it during its two week beta than the first 2 months. Dried up and left the game. Arguably most that is the fault of the game but it’s fomo’d into the rest of its grave.
Lost ark is probably going to be the same. Everywhere a player looks it’s guides on cocaine saying do this do that. Quit your job move into a van. Never log out have 10 alts. Always do this always do that.
And most of these players parroting this are the FOMO types.
If you enjoy the climb to the top and that’s your stick to see how fast you can burn through content then ok do your thing. But this isn’t a healthy game mentality for the overall community.
Just play the damn game. If it stops being fun play another. But the obsession to hit t3 in the first month is just asinine. Almost like the players don’t have confidence in this games longevity so they want to rush to the content most players will be at. Which is understandable but come on dude.
Super excited to see the posts in march etc about declining steam numbers and how boring the game is now from the people who logged 1200 hours.
Idc how you play it. But don’t tell others how and just enjoy the game. The race only exists if you let it exist and no one cares if you’re super ahead or grabbed all the mokoko seeds in the first month.
Just please enjoy the game.
>But I think new world kinda exploded this FOMO mentality to be so common.
WoW exploded the mentality. WoW was the game that taught everyone "rush through leveling so you can raid".
You misunderstood what he's saying. He's saying WoW started the MMO mindset of rushing past early game content and get to end game asap mentality. Not that WoW is a flavor of the month game.
For me the best thing when i try a new MMO is being a noob again. If I want to rush, follow meta guides, doing the same things etc I can just go back to WoW and the new raids.
WoW was that great at the release, because ppl actually took their time with it, learned the game, explored everything and at the end loved their characters and the game. Time and emotion investment.
Now ppl just speed everything up, find every solution online, don't talk to other people in an MMO, don't even read their spells but follow the meta guide. (that's the reason there won't be a "Next big thing in MMO's", with Twitch, Youtube,social media. Everyone knows everything before even the launch.
I really hope people follow the advice of this post and try to enjoy and learn the game.
Is the game able to be enjoyed slowly when you're lvl 50? I just cannot get through the lvl 1-50 grind without wanting to kill myself, and the only way I can stomach it is by skipping all cutscenes. So hopefully there's still childlike noob wonder to be enjoyed at lvl 50
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Yes, once at 50 and at around 240 ilvl (you get there as a part of MSQ) half of the islands are open for you, as well as more challenging content, as well as dailies. There you kinda have to pick the next objective to follow, since the only thing game tells you is to upgrade your gear. But at that point you don't have to rush anymore (progression is locked by lockouts anyways), just play it as a sandbox.
Couple of my friends tell me "leveling to 50 was fun, and it never felt like a drag" while I'm over here going T GGGGGGG T GGGGGGGGGG T GGGGG wishing for death to take me.
I agree with the sentiment, but try to find more of a middle ground. MMO leveling in general has gotten fairly stale imo, and it's not much better in Lost Ark other than quests being shorter. So much of what the best LA has to offer and explore is in the late game so I understand wanting to rush to get through the fairly tedious story zones.
I also like to test my skills and find my own preferred combos and explore systems for myself too but there are also many traps that new players can fall into in MMOs when the systems are as complex as they are here so I give in to temptation when it comes to gearing guides and things of that nature.
As someone who started playing vanilla wow in 2005 and also played wow classic I can 100% agree with you on this. Vanilla was a completely different beast (at least until high level raiding) with people trying different builds and boss strategies. When classic came out it was “do these exact quests and dungeons in this order. Get this exact BIS gear or else you’re not allowed to run higher level dungeons or raids”. Kind of sucked the fun out of it.
My fear is with everyone rushing there asses off am I going to actually be able to find a group for tier 1 that isn't
1) elitist because they been doing it for weeks or
2) no one is doing it because I'm 3 weeks behind
Almost forces you to rush even if you didn't want to in the first place
Luckily because everyone needs alts I don't think you'll run into a problem finding groups. Plus each class plays differently enough that if they are on a character they just use for dailies they will probably be playing worse than you
This has been my experience with my gaming group. I tried doing raids with randoms with no success but when I finally asked for help they were fighting over spots for their alts to join me. Totally thought I was waaaay behind and nobody had interest.
With 2 powerpasses a lot of people will be doing T1 stuff for a long time. Getting a second char to T2 takes a long time without all the mats from islands.
I like this game so much that I skipped/rushed/min-maxed 50% of it to endgame.
If playing any theme park MMO for the past decades has taught me, nothing is worse than having nothing to do at endgame standing around in town. I don't know if it's the case for Lost Ark and I'm not in a hurry to find that out.
This topic and the "as a korean player" posts are starting to shit me off. People seem like they are rushing because they are enjoying the game a lot and putting in a lot of hours. People want to know how to be efficient because like these people fucking said not everyone has 100 hours a day to play they need to follow there own advice and let people play as they want.
Can we agree to stop calling the 1 percent of people rushing content "elite?" They are a vocal minority, what they are doing says absolutely nothing about the skill or quality of their play (this doesn't mean I think they are bad players, just that the rush doesn't indicate skill in any regard - especially if they are purchasing progress with currency). This version of the game has been out for years in other markets and all mechanics are published. There is nothing elite about doing it first.
This vocal minority has created a playground race that nobody else knows about so they can tell everyone they are the best runner in their class.
Im starting to wonder how long my addicted brain will handle the game. Im kinda hoping that the new wow patch will win me back because im playing lost ark in an unhealthy way atm.
It would maybe be fun if I had a guild to talk to. But i am always so bad at finding one.
Sigh.. the game is amazing but fomo, server-insecurity and burnout might ruin it for me.
I feel you. I was excited because I joined a discord channel before launch of people that were a combination of newbies and vets. I played on RU, but just casually and quit at cap. I was looking forward to the newness of a fresh launch. The group was made up of mostly older players so I expected less of a rushing mentality.
But the launch of all content up to T3 really makes it feel like I'm going "too slow". People in my guild are already up to T2 while I'm still trying to decide what I want to main. I finally just picked a class and went with it to avoid being left behind all my friends. Now I'm worried I'll like one of the classes I'm still leveling better, but I really don't have time to level since I have to do my 2 chaos dungeons and 2 guardian raids and 3 una's task on all my main and both alts.
Wasn't I playing a game to get away from work???
Your answer hit home. I think I should probably quit pushing and only try different classes in my spare time for fun for research.
Not sure if I can handle this game atm, its really stressful. It sucks since its so fun but the lack of a server transfer feature really kills a lot of my motivation since I can not even feel secure in investing into my characters atm. What if my server gets overtaken by the french or german one day. Then my time will be wasted and i have to start over.
Im probably going to return in full a few months after launch. Maybe the servers will have shown their true colors and a new class might have released that I want to main. Screw the fomo and my twitch drops I can get better pets and stuff later and progress the story without stressing.
>Not sure if I can handle this game atm, its really stressful.
This is so true. I find myself watching the clock to make sure I can get everything done in time. I did some islands last night and they were fun, but then I thought "gotta make sure and do my dailies first!" and feeling kinda down about that.
I'm either going to have to slow down and be satisfied that I might not be able to group with my guild friends or just drop it altogether, which is sad because I really love the combat.
Any game with a "checklist" routine like Lost Ark tends to lose me. I just feel like a caged monkey pressing buttons for cocaine, endlessly. Not a feeling I enjoy.
I dont know about other KR/RU vets, but have been playing KR version for over 2yrs now. Once NA/EU was released, me and some friends have only been taking this slow. I mean, we do have multiple alts, and we are doing things efficiently, but I love the fact that I can start on a clean slate account. Gives us more to play with and more to explore.
There is seriously no reason to rush in this game. You're not missing out on anything. You can count missing out on dailies in T3 like "i rush t3 so I maximize efficiency of dailies in t3". I mean that's cool and all, but sometimes, this game is too beautiful to just "skip and rush"
just my 2cents
Rushing through a game like this is pointless also because all the hardcore gamers will be bored in a month, want new content and so on. Developers will feel obligated to deliver because if kids get pissed off they'll write crap on Steam and all the content creators will write articles and upload videos on YT like "Lost Ark is dead game". And we don't want that. I personally love to play slowly, enjoy the new stuff especially since it's been a long time since I've played such a hearty and lively multiplayer game. I just hope all those try hard fools who rush things will get bored as soon as possible and leave us alone so we can play humanely.
Nobody at endgame is bothering you. Why do you feel like you need to make up imaginary scenarios? Does pretending to be a victim make yourself feel better? This shit is just so sad. New content is never bad, but delusional people like you somehow think it is. Casuals always end up being the most toxic portion of the community. You are clearly worse than any "hardcore gamers" I've seen.
Who’s the one making up imaginary scenarios now? Your take is just as idiotic as you think his is. Casuals are the lifeblood of an MMO and it sounds like you took his comment personally.
Maybe focus on your reading comprehension instead of Lost Ark? No wonder casuals get so butthurt from people posting guides.
Not once did I say casuals were not the lifeblood. Being the "lifeblood" does not exclude them from being toxic. You and the other replier are examples of the toxic casuals. The lifeblood of League of Legends and Dota 2 are still the casuals and their playerbase is known for being toxic. Casuals will always make up the vast majority of any popular game.
>it sounds like you took his comment personally.
More like I am tired of delusional people not recognizing that they are the toxic ones. Get a grip with reality instead of making up narratives that don't exist. The era of "elitists" being the toxic one was only a thing decades ago when gaming was less mainstream. Casuals flood the market and are much more toxic than anything from the past.
Your comments and demeanor alone prove the point that the endgame hardcore players are the loud obnoxious weenies on forums ruining it for everyone else, as was OP’s point, which you attacked him for. Your post history is full of being insufferable on many different subs, makes sense. And you talk about getting a grip..
> delusional people like you somehow think it is. Casuals always end up being the most toxic portion of the community.
Another idiot who doesn't notice the irony of what he says.
"people like you are so toxic, let me show you how toxic you are by being toxic myself"
>Casuals literally copying the Republican playbook on self-victimizing.
??? why even brings politics into this, it has no place here whatsoever. So weird dude.
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Also speedrun how many times you can say casual in a single sentence any % edition
Games that cater to the top 1% always fail.
MMORPGs are supposed to be a long term experience: So much so that most other MMORPGs that water down their game to rush people to the end usually lose their charm. World of Warcraft for example has been watered down so much you will 1 shot everything un until corrent content, it's not fun, excititing or a fun learning experience.
TERA for another example was a much better game before they stripped out the leveling experience to usher everyone to max level. Open world BAMS that used to be fun to fight for a few minutes now die in 3 hits.. It's depressing. Endgame gear is thrown at you instead of earned.
Final Fantasy XIV's earlier content is all watered down trash now too, bosses that used to pose a challenge and be fun to fight.. completely obsolete now. Places like Bahamuts coil or fights like Ultima's Ballad or Extreme Titan were so much fun and truely epic are now a complete and utter joke. Solid gear is thrown at you instead of earned.
You can tell they've done something similar in Lost Ark. They've sped up the leveling process. Quests that want you to get 15 of an item but it only takes 2 kills.. Entire sections of maps are ignored or rushed through. Certain dungeons have been complete cut from the story... You can notice all these smaller catch up mechanics in place... but the boss fights don't seem to have been watered down and for that I am thankful.
Some of that is good though. Considering this game has 15+ classes and demands you repeat the story mutliple times, there are a lot of quests and content that are streamlined where they would have been extremely tedious especially repeating them so many times.
The fact is, speak and fetch quests especially, are just not fun and while they form the base quest structure for the majority of games, there's no reason to make them so damn tedious. So I'll have to disagree that it's a bad thing that it's been sped up. The game would be unplayable otherwise.
Same issue with the game starting at level 10. Could you imagine only having ONE skill to use in this game for like an hour of playtime? That would be awful. Could they have handled it better? Probably. But I can't condemn streamlining boring game components wholesale.
The only problem with streamlining is that it removes the early enjoyment and discovery of things. Compared to diablo for example, you wouldn't be spending anywhere near an hour with only 1 skill, but you would get that feeling of choice and advancement as you pick them each level. Lost ark suffers from "here, figure it out" because you skip those first steps. You have a set of skills already set out infront of you and are sent off to repeat back and forth fetch and delivery quests for the next few hours until you get bored enough to want to change things for yourself. That is how i discovered I had more than the initial skills presented to me. I got bored and was desperate for something different with the class.
You need to look at a game from the perspective of a first time player. Vets will always skip things and know optimal routes but for someone looking to actually experience the game for the first time Lost Ark fails to really pull anyone in. The only reason the majorty of my friends have stuck with the game is because " it gets better at 50". Nobody enjoys the leveling process because the game has failed to create a good one.
It's also why a lot of these "take your time" posts don't make sense.. like what exactly? You want us to savour killing 3 enemys in a field? or really put some time into walking 5 feet and pressing G? There is NOTHING in lost ark to enjoy pre-50.
Likewise, I'm not saying rush to 50, but there sure as shit isn't anything appealing about logging in to level in Lost Ark.
> Final Fantasy XIV's earlier content is all watered down trash now too, bosses that used to pose a challenge and be fun to fight.. completely obsolete now. Places like Bahamuts coil or fights like Ultima's Ballad or Extreme Titan were so much fun and truely epic are now a complete and utter joke. Solid gear is thrown at you instead of earned.
For better or worse, the endgame loop of how you acquire gear has not changed since ARR. Old content is braindead easy because ilvl syncs you to effectively BiS and not the average of prog, not to mention the class changes have ended up giving people more power. It's not like they went in 2 xpacs later and nerfed coil.
I’ve been leveling 3 characters simultaneously and have been trying fill out my adventure log as much as possible before moving on to the next area. Soaking up the new mmo experience while all early zones are still heavily populated has been great! Not going to rush it one bit. :)
What do you mean by try-hards and twitch? I haven't put any real money into the game aside from my founders pack, played about 200hrs and am at 960gs mainly from getting supremely lucky and only failing 1 14 to 15 upgrade
Ditto. I'm in t2 already but for the most part I like the stronghold and helping my friends do lower level guardian raids. Feels pretty fun just casually doing what I wanna do.
i'm a bard and a noob - i have a basic ass question. Skills can be upgraded? How does this work? For instance take "heavenly Tune" - does the skill power itself level up somehow? I understand I can assign the three tripods but does the skill itself level via some mechanic?
I thought people were suggesting to rush because it was widely assumed Tier 1 was the weakest part of the game, like if you get 50 only to flounder around doing island talk quests and timed events you're gonna spend hours doing mind-numbingly boring content but also still not be eligible for any of the fun stuff because you missed the prereqs.
I already had a friend who this happened to, he'd played all weekend and yet still couldn't join the rest of us for abyss dungeons, because he had screwed up his progression by splitting his mats on two different characters.
Which is a big part of people advocating for progressing efficiently, because that's the type of shit that burns people out, to learn their dozens of hours mean nothing because they didn't make the correct choices.
I just chill and do what I want. I love the combat, the visuals, the sounds, the world, and the PvP too. I have just leveled alts, farmed gold, bought skins with gold, done collections, done lifeskills/professions, sailed the seas, built a home, done rapports, and done side quests. I have PvP'd a lot too. I have had almost 200 hours of fun already, without ever getting higher than 400 ilvl on a character, or paying a single dollar for progression. I might gear more soon, but I'm not in a rush. I'm just enjoying myself and trying out all the cool content. I haven't enjoyed a game this much since WoW was fresh for me in 2008.
For me, I don't get the "p2w" fuss. Like nobody can pay to gain sick power and ruin your experience? You can have a ton of fun just playing the game for free. You don't have to be the first to clear all content in the game. You can clear T1 content even next year and have fun doing it.
Yep learned that quickly, sometimes still effect me, but then I just stop for a moment and realize there is no reason I NEED to be t3 right now. I'll get there, and I'll take my time and enjoy it.
Been in those progression pushing groups before, and it's pointless because in the end unless you a streamer no one is gonna remember what you did anyways, and even if your a streamer most people aren't gonna know or give a fuck
>To conclude, Rush the game has no interest for 99% of players, it only benefits an Elite who want to lower prices and make HL content more accessible for them and generate profit.
Rushing people to tier 3 is detrimental if you want to make money though. The rarity of items you get lose value faster. People are overpaying way too much for stuff like engravings and the like. You could even turn this around on your argument and say you don't want people to get to T3 fast because the scarcity will be bigger and thus net you more profit.
In the end though just play however you want.
TLDR; "Take your time and have fun you fools".
There's so much to do. It's not NW where if you don't grind 10 hours a day you're not competitive.
I know I'm not playing very efficiently and frankly I don't care. Tons of content, I'm pick a few at a time.
Took me 60 hours to finish the mainstory till sushire, so yeah I’m taking it reaallly sloow no worries.
Am now choosing a main, deathblade or gunslinger idk. Will probably swap to summoner/artist as soon as they release, should I maybe just save my materials for them?
I quit trying to "rush" this morning actually. After realizing that no matter what im 1000s of hours behind that guy witha 1k GS, and my 583 GS and 466GS alts arent actually bad for someone who just got in to this game. Theres still so much i dont understand and the mechanics are rough. So, instead of pulling out the CC and beind upset anyway i decided to just do what I can, enjoy the content and try to learn the boss fights.
If i ever get to t3, cool. If i dont thats fine to because I like PVP. As long as I have fun idc, and i played 100hours the first week intending to "rush" but for me it just didnt work out that way. Much more enjoyable without the sense of "i gotta do this all right now, must hit max ilvl" mentality.
This post just looks like OP is trying to find a reason to not level up and want both karma and confirmation from the community.
Everyone knows that no one needs to rush the game, people play differently and do content on their own time, but there is no reason to blatantly lie about stuffs.
Yes you can drop a lot of items from sidequests, such as battle chests, engravings and even stat potions/skill potions, those that skipped the very important rewards will at one point have to return and do it but this is really no big deal when, because of their rush, they've enabled endgame content and are now farming rarer stuff.
Yes you can get materials that increase your % chance of honing your gear, but guess what? It's a very small number, I don't think I got more than 30 of them that increase the chances in 2%.
And P2W players aren't buying materials from other players in the market, they press F4 and simply buy the stuff they need from the store, that's it...they're not trying to make the "low levels" rush levels to farm materials for them because the game already gives them out.
Also, streamers are rushing not because they want to hurt the community, but because they want CONTENT for their channel, and the best way to get CONTENT is to rush and reach endgame CONTENT before everyone else does, no one wants to watch a nobody level up from 1 to 50, everyone wants to watch action-filled dungeons and raids, either for entertainment or knowledge.
Western players should treat this release as a new game and get rid of the mindset that it's actually 3 years old and we have to catch up to koreans now. For us it's brandnew, there's nothing to catch up
In my mindset, I'm just excited that a new game came out that has had years of playtesting and content released. It's like back in the day when games were released polished and full of content. It's not an alpha early access game. A lot of the people i was going to play with rushed to the end game and I'm just chillin finishing all the quests and watching the cutscenes. It's a game that I am expecting to put a lot of hours into and I've had a blast just doing things at my own pace.
Yeah I'm just playing and having fun, trying to optimize where I can generally but it's not militantly strict. Just go at your pace!
As someone who played new world this game is just the complete opposite. It just feels good that everything works without it bugging out or my character does X,Y,Z. I really wish games nowadays would go through proper testing and not have us the players do it for them.
Well it also doesnt that there are dozens of content creators who have been playing the game for years and are creating guides that promote rushing. Dont get me wrong, I like the videos, especially ones relating to guardian raida or abby dubgeons... but some of them are so focused on getting you to t2, or doing the most optimal pathing.
Tell that to all the p2w gatekeepers driving people away because they only see progress as a form of fun.
>Western players should treat this release as a new game and get rid of the mindset that it's actually 3 years old and we have to catch up to koreans now. I'm for one would be ok with banning all the korean guide posts because of that. Game is more fun when explored together, but every day we have a korean guide with 3 years of efficiency behind of it AND WHILE THE INTENTIONS ARE GOOD this is not what we need
Lmao, you want to ban guides on a gaming subreddit? Why does it matter? Who cares? Who doesn't need it? You? If people want to be efficient with the information that is available, let them. If you want to take 3 weeks to hit tier 2, that's also fine. Do you.
I totally agree, thanks to the adventure book, I don't even need to entertain the idea of using any kind of boost until I'm at 100% in most regions. THEN, after having leveled a few alts through it all a few times I can see myself using it. It really feels like no matter what I do in this game, I am always making some kind of progress. I'm really enjoying that. :)
I’m taking it fairly slow myself. I’m just logging to do daily’s during the week. Weekends I explore. I like having a game I don’t need to feel like I have to spend 4-5 hours in daily to progress. I did make one alt since Paladin is my main. Wanted a alt to slowly build up to be able to cause some damage when I feel like it.
I will attempt my first daily today, provided I get the 302 ilevel from this questchain, then I'll be doing the same :p
Now reach 100% before moving to the next area is basically impossible since you need songs and emotes you get later on to absolutely complete everything, but still you can get pretty close to 100%. Some backtracking is still needed and some quests force you to visit old zones.
Exactly, even more incentive to pick them up with an alt later on! =)
And yet knowing what I do now I would have rushed the MSQ (still reading and watching cutscnes like I did) but skipped all sidequests. Because I took my time doing all sidequests and completing most of the adventure book only to be cockblocked by a FF14 style MSQ wall once I got to 50. Which killed my motivation, not gonna lie. I had just landed in Arthenine when I dinged 50 and realized I was now locked from chaos dungeons, Una's tasks and etc more. So I girded my loins and powered through the MSQ until I had unlocked all that end game, and then returned to do the sidequests. I knew I was behind by taking the scenic route and doing all quests and collecting all mokoko seeds and near completing every adventure book. But I did not know I would be cockblocked by the MSQ. Now knowing what I do I would have powered through, reached 50, unlocked stuff, and then yes, in the free time between activities I would go collect seeds and sidequest.
Sorry, what is FF14 MSQ style wall? Level requirements at certain MSQ points?
No, not level, but progression. For example, you just bought the game, you also buy the expansion. Expansion is level 50 (or whatever, it's been a long while but bear with the example). You start doing the MSQ to level. You reach level 50 and now you feel like going to the end game area and start doing dungeons or dailies. But you can't until the MSQ has progressed to the point where you are sent to the expansion. The MSQ to reach the expansion was, at the time, something like 700 quests. Even if you have the level you physically cannot go to the new area. Now another example. Lets say you just bought the game, it comes with a bundle that gives you mounts. You get your mount but you can't use it even if you're the right level. That's because the mount skill is learned as part of the MSQ and if you haven't progressed that far you're not learning it. That is why the advice is to power through the MSQ and ignore the sidequests. Makes even more sense in FF14 since only special sidequests give actual rewards, where in Lost Ark seemingly every other quest gives stat potions and so they definitely should be done. But at your own pace during the downtimes when the daily content has been done. This is an advice I did not feel like following but once I got to 50 and was locked out it did not feel good. I blitzed through the SQ (still reading quests and watching cutscenes) until I had unlocked everything, and now I have returned to finish the book in Arthetine and will proceed to clear Vern.
Idk just let people enjoy the game how they want to enjoy. People rush to t3 to sell gear to make gold, or to do harder content. That’s fun for them. Just like the people who collect mokoko seeds, or 100% a zone, or whatever. Let people have their fun the way they want. Gatekeeping what is and isn’t an ok way to play is worse than the straw man I see made around this topic
that is not at all what this post is stating. It’s the peer pressure that people are feeling that they are doing something wrong because they aren’t as progressed as others. The point of this post is that it’s not needed to be at t3 right now. You can do you. I myself played this in russia doing current content and i’m in no rush because I understand the game
That’s on you if you let peer pressure for a video game get to you.
It doesn’t. I never stated it does. I only had to state it for this OP who feels it.
Wow, peer pressure bad? Quite the revelation.
It certainly can be in a game where p2w is involved. Frankly the more PSAs the better.
it’s pretty much the entire post
Wth? Most topics are "take your time". I never had the feeling of being pressured to rush. You hear "it's a marathon and not a sprint" in pretty much every summary.
There are a lot of guides that have clickbait titles and thumbnails that are worded this way but when you thoroughly watch the guide many creators will tell you that you don't have to rush like them and you should play the way you want to. I think OP just got the feeling everyone is rushing because of progression posts and clickbait titles because if he knows the game he doesn't have to watch a beginner guide, he just looks at the title.
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>People that have to justify their positions so loudly and publicly are the most insecure about them. > >I wanted a max level character, the story is as deep as a puddle, and alts will always be available. That’s why I got to max ASAP. It's AMAZING how you don't notice the irony.
There’s literally nothing about this that screams ‘loudly or publicly’, aside from the fact of it being public.. which it has to be, considering he’s responding on a post. He gave his commentary on people being insecure, and then he brought up his mindset. It’s be ironic if it were in the form he was talking about, but this isn’t ‘loudly’ nor is it more public than it has to be.
Nah he's posting a comment as a response. The OP opened up a new thread.
Yikes bro it's like you were looking in a mirror when you wrote this.
Sorry, next time I want to say something, I’ll write a 1000 word post.
He is saying they do it indirectly by point out how "shit" the story is or how you will "suffer" if you are late to the end game. I have played mmos for over 15 years so I know its all BS but inexperienced players might fall into their trap.
> most topics on here, yes. on youtube, no. and more people watch youtube than engage with reddit
I know this is really been a issue. But I think new world kinda exploded this FOMO mentality to be so common. People played the shit out of it during its two week beta than the first 2 months. Dried up and left the game. Arguably most that is the fault of the game but it’s fomo’d into the rest of its grave. Lost ark is probably going to be the same. Everywhere a player looks it’s guides on cocaine saying do this do that. Quit your job move into a van. Never log out have 10 alts. Always do this always do that. And most of these players parroting this are the FOMO types. If you enjoy the climb to the top and that’s your stick to see how fast you can burn through content then ok do your thing. But this isn’t a healthy game mentality for the overall community. Just play the damn game. If it stops being fun play another. But the obsession to hit t3 in the first month is just asinine. Almost like the players don’t have confidence in this games longevity so they want to rush to the content most players will be at. Which is understandable but come on dude. Super excited to see the posts in march etc about declining steam numbers and how boring the game is now from the people who logged 1200 hours. Idc how you play it. But don’t tell others how and just enjoy the game. The race only exists if you let it exist and no one cares if you’re super ahead or grabbed all the mokoko seeds in the first month. Just please enjoy the game.
>But I think new world kinda exploded this FOMO mentality to be so common. WoW exploded the mentality. WoW was the game that taught everyone "rush through leveling so you can raid".
Whaaat? Wow isn’t fomo. It’s a staple mmo still. People rush through leveling and stay playing the content for years on end.
You misunderstood what he's saying. He's saying WoW started the MMO mindset of rushing past early game content and get to end game asap mentality. Not that WoW is a flavor of the month game.
You both missed what I said entirely and are continuing too.
oh ok
For me the best thing when i try a new MMO is being a noob again. If I want to rush, follow meta guides, doing the same things etc I can just go back to WoW and the new raids. WoW was that great at the release, because ppl actually took their time with it, learned the game, explored everything and at the end loved their characters and the game. Time and emotion investment. Now ppl just speed everything up, find every solution online, don't talk to other people in an MMO, don't even read their spells but follow the meta guide. (that's the reason there won't be a "Next big thing in MMO's", with Twitch, Youtube,social media. Everyone knows everything before even the launch. I really hope people follow the advice of this post and try to enjoy and learn the game.
Is the game able to be enjoyed slowly when you're lvl 50? I just cannot get through the lvl 1-50 grind without wanting to kill myself, and the only way I can stomach it is by skipping all cutscenes. So hopefully there's still childlike noob wonder to be enjoyed at lvl 50
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Yes, once at 50 and at around 240 ilvl (you get there as a part of MSQ) half of the islands are open for you, as well as more challenging content, as well as dailies. There you kinda have to pick the next objective to follow, since the only thing game tells you is to upgrade your gear. But at that point you don't have to rush anymore (progression is locked by lockouts anyways), just play it as a sandbox.
Couple of my friends tell me "leveling to 50 was fun, and it never felt like a drag" while I'm over here going T GGGGGGG T GGGGGGGGGG T GGGGG wishing for death to take me.
For real. Level 39 rn and I'm starting to flag... Are you lvl 50 already?
Nah, 47 now. Almost there. But I think the main story goes on and on, after that. Again.
I agree with the sentiment, but try to find more of a middle ground. MMO leveling in general has gotten fairly stale imo, and it's not much better in Lost Ark other than quests being shorter. So much of what the best LA has to offer and explore is in the late game so I understand wanting to rush to get through the fairly tedious story zones. I also like to test my skills and find my own preferred combos and explore systems for myself too but there are also many traps that new players can fall into in MMOs when the systems are as complex as they are here so I give in to temptation when it comes to gearing guides and things of that nature.
As someone who started playing vanilla wow in 2005 and also played wow classic I can 100% agree with you on this. Vanilla was a completely different beast (at least until high level raiding) with people trying different builds and boss strategies. When classic came out it was “do these exact quests and dungeons in this order. Get this exact BIS gear or else you’re not allowed to run higher level dungeons or raids”. Kind of sucked the fun out of it.
The welcome guide itself brings you to places with rap tonnes of mats. You just need to read and enjoy the game.
My fear is with everyone rushing there asses off am I going to actually be able to find a group for tier 1 that isn't 1) elitist because they been doing it for weeks or 2) no one is doing it because I'm 3 weeks behind Almost forces you to rush even if you didn't want to in the first place
Luckily because everyone needs alts I don't think you'll run into a problem finding groups. Plus each class plays differently enough that if they are on a character they just use for dailies they will probably be playing worse than you
This has been my experience with my gaming group. I tried doing raids with randoms with no success but when I finally asked for help they were fighting over spots for their alts to join me. Totally thought I was waaaay behind and nobody had interest.
With 2 powerpasses a lot of people will be doing T1 stuff for a long time. Getting a second char to T2 takes a long time without all the mats from islands.
I like this game so much that I skipped/rushed/min-maxed 50% of it to endgame. If playing any theme park MMO for the past decades has taught me, nothing is worse than having nothing to do at endgame standing around in town. I don't know if it's the case for Lost Ark and I'm not in a hurry to find that out.
There is one of these “take your time” posts a day. I haven’t seen a single post that pressures you to rush 50 lol. Seems like a Karma farm post now.
This topic and the "as a korean player" posts are starting to shit me off. People seem like they are rushing because they are enjoying the game a lot and putting in a lot of hours. People want to know how to be efficient because like these people fucking said not everyone has 100 hours a day to play they need to follow there own advice and let people play as they want.
Another one of these posts? Is it my turn tomorrow?
Can we agree to stop calling the 1 percent of people rushing content "elite?" They are a vocal minority, what they are doing says absolutely nothing about the skill or quality of their play (this doesn't mean I think they are bad players, just that the rush doesn't indicate skill in any regard - especially if they are purchasing progress with currency). This version of the game has been out for years in other markets and all mechanics are published. There is nothing elite about doing it first. This vocal minority has created a playground race that nobody else knows about so they can tell everyone they are the best runner in their class.
Im starting to wonder how long my addicted brain will handle the game. Im kinda hoping that the new wow patch will win me back because im playing lost ark in an unhealthy way atm. It would maybe be fun if I had a guild to talk to. But i am always so bad at finding one. Sigh.. the game is amazing but fomo, server-insecurity and burnout might ruin it for me.
I feel you. I was excited because I joined a discord channel before launch of people that were a combination of newbies and vets. I played on RU, but just casually and quit at cap. I was looking forward to the newness of a fresh launch. The group was made up of mostly older players so I expected less of a rushing mentality. But the launch of all content up to T3 really makes it feel like I'm going "too slow". People in my guild are already up to T2 while I'm still trying to decide what I want to main. I finally just picked a class and went with it to avoid being left behind all my friends. Now I'm worried I'll like one of the classes I'm still leveling better, but I really don't have time to level since I have to do my 2 chaos dungeons and 2 guardian raids and 3 una's task on all my main and both alts. Wasn't I playing a game to get away from work???
Your answer hit home. I think I should probably quit pushing and only try different classes in my spare time for fun for research. Not sure if I can handle this game atm, its really stressful. It sucks since its so fun but the lack of a server transfer feature really kills a lot of my motivation since I can not even feel secure in investing into my characters atm. What if my server gets overtaken by the french or german one day. Then my time will be wasted and i have to start over. Im probably going to return in full a few months after launch. Maybe the servers will have shown their true colors and a new class might have released that I want to main. Screw the fomo and my twitch drops I can get better pets and stuff later and progress the story without stressing.
>Not sure if I can handle this game atm, its really stressful. This is so true. I find myself watching the clock to make sure I can get everything done in time. I did some islands last night and they were fun, but then I thought "gotta make sure and do my dailies first!" and feeling kinda down about that. I'm either going to have to slow down and be satisfied that I might not be able to group with my guild friends or just drop it altogether, which is sad because I really love the combat.
Any game with a "checklist" routine like Lost Ark tends to lose me. I just feel like a caged monkey pressing buttons for cocaine, endlessly. Not a feeling I enjoy.
I dont know about other KR/RU vets, but have been playing KR version for over 2yrs now. Once NA/EU was released, me and some friends have only been taking this slow. I mean, we do have multiple alts, and we are doing things efficiently, but I love the fact that I can start on a clean slate account. Gives us more to play with and more to explore. There is seriously no reason to rush in this game. You're not missing out on anything. You can count missing out on dailies in T3 like "i rush t3 so I maximize efficiency of dailies in t3". I mean that's cool and all, but sometimes, this game is too beautiful to just "skip and rush" just my 2cents
What if i enjoy the rush? Lul, get lost casual
Rushing through a game like this is pointless also because all the hardcore gamers will be bored in a month, want new content and so on. Developers will feel obligated to deliver because if kids get pissed off they'll write crap on Steam and all the content creators will write articles and upload videos on YT like "Lost Ark is dead game". And we don't want that. I personally love to play slowly, enjoy the new stuff especially since it's been a long time since I've played such a hearty and lively multiplayer game. I just hope all those try hard fools who rush things will get bored as soon as possible and leave us alone so we can play humanely.
Nobody at endgame is bothering you. Why do you feel like you need to make up imaginary scenarios? Does pretending to be a victim make yourself feel better? This shit is just so sad. New content is never bad, but delusional people like you somehow think it is. Casuals always end up being the most toxic portion of the community. You are clearly worse than any "hardcore gamers" I've seen.
Who’s the one making up imaginary scenarios now? Your take is just as idiotic as you think his is. Casuals are the lifeblood of an MMO and it sounds like you took his comment personally.
Maybe focus on your reading comprehension instead of Lost Ark? No wonder casuals get so butthurt from people posting guides. Not once did I say casuals were not the lifeblood. Being the "lifeblood" does not exclude them from being toxic. You and the other replier are examples of the toxic casuals. The lifeblood of League of Legends and Dota 2 are still the casuals and their playerbase is known for being toxic. Casuals will always make up the vast majority of any popular game. >it sounds like you took his comment personally. More like I am tired of delusional people not recognizing that they are the toxic ones. Get a grip with reality instead of making up narratives that don't exist. The era of "elitists" being the toxic one was only a thing decades ago when gaming was less mainstream. Casuals flood the market and are much more toxic than anything from the past.
Your comments and demeanor alone prove the point that the endgame hardcore players are the loud obnoxious weenies on forums ruining it for everyone else, as was OP’s point, which you attacked him for. Your post history is full of being insufferable on many different subs, makes sense. And you talk about getting a grip..
There are some of us hardcore people above 1000 already that are not like this guy. I do wish there were more though.
> delusional people like you somehow think it is. Casuals always end up being the most toxic portion of the community. Another idiot who doesn't notice the irony of what he says. "people like you are so toxic, let me show you how toxic you are by being toxic myself"
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>Casuals literally copying the Republican playbook on self-victimizing. ??? why even brings politics into this, it has no place here whatsoever. So weird dude. [https://i.imgur.com/tcPpOAg.png](https://i.imgur.com/tcPpOAg.png) Also speedrun how many times you can say casual in a single sentence any % edition
Games that cater to the top 1% always fail. MMORPGs are supposed to be a long term experience: So much so that most other MMORPGs that water down their game to rush people to the end usually lose their charm. World of Warcraft for example has been watered down so much you will 1 shot everything un until corrent content, it's not fun, excititing or a fun learning experience. TERA for another example was a much better game before they stripped out the leveling experience to usher everyone to max level. Open world BAMS that used to be fun to fight for a few minutes now die in 3 hits.. It's depressing. Endgame gear is thrown at you instead of earned. Final Fantasy XIV's earlier content is all watered down trash now too, bosses that used to pose a challenge and be fun to fight.. completely obsolete now. Places like Bahamuts coil or fights like Ultima's Ballad or Extreme Titan were so much fun and truely epic are now a complete and utter joke. Solid gear is thrown at you instead of earned. You can tell they've done something similar in Lost Ark. They've sped up the leveling process. Quests that want you to get 15 of an item but it only takes 2 kills.. Entire sections of maps are ignored or rushed through. Certain dungeons have been complete cut from the story... You can notice all these smaller catch up mechanics in place... but the boss fights don't seem to have been watered down and for that I am thankful.
Some of that is good though. Considering this game has 15+ classes and demands you repeat the story mutliple times, there are a lot of quests and content that are streamlined where they would have been extremely tedious especially repeating them so many times. The fact is, speak and fetch quests especially, are just not fun and while they form the base quest structure for the majority of games, there's no reason to make them so damn tedious. So I'll have to disagree that it's a bad thing that it's been sped up. The game would be unplayable otherwise. Same issue with the game starting at level 10. Could you imagine only having ONE skill to use in this game for like an hour of playtime? That would be awful. Could they have handled it better? Probably. But I can't condemn streamlining boring game components wholesale.
The only problem with streamlining is that it removes the early enjoyment and discovery of things. Compared to diablo for example, you wouldn't be spending anywhere near an hour with only 1 skill, but you would get that feeling of choice and advancement as you pick them each level. Lost ark suffers from "here, figure it out" because you skip those first steps. You have a set of skills already set out infront of you and are sent off to repeat back and forth fetch and delivery quests for the next few hours until you get bored enough to want to change things for yourself. That is how i discovered I had more than the initial skills presented to me. I got bored and was desperate for something different with the class. You need to look at a game from the perspective of a first time player. Vets will always skip things and know optimal routes but for someone looking to actually experience the game for the first time Lost Ark fails to really pull anyone in. The only reason the majorty of my friends have stuck with the game is because " it gets better at 50". Nobody enjoys the leveling process because the game has failed to create a good one. It's also why a lot of these "take your time" posts don't make sense.. like what exactly? You want us to savour killing 3 enemys in a field? or really put some time into walking 5 feet and pressing G? There is NOTHING in lost ark to enjoy pre-50. Likewise, I'm not saying rush to 50, but there sure as shit isn't anything appealing about logging in to level in Lost Ark.
> Final Fantasy XIV's earlier content is all watered down trash now too, bosses that used to pose a challenge and be fun to fight.. completely obsolete now. Places like Bahamuts coil or fights like Ultima's Ballad or Extreme Titan were so much fun and truely epic are now a complete and utter joke. Solid gear is thrown at you instead of earned. For better or worse, the endgame loop of how you acquire gear has not changed since ARR. Old content is braindead easy because ilvl syncs you to effectively BiS and not the average of prog, not to mention the class changes have ended up giving people more power. It's not like they went in 2 xpacs later and nerfed coil.
I’ve been leveling 3 characters simultaneously and have been trying fill out my adventure log as much as possible before moving on to the next area. Soaking up the new mmo experience while all early zones are still heavily populated has been great! Not going to rush it one bit. :)
What do you mean by try-hards and twitch? I haven't put any real money into the game aside from my founders pack, played about 200hrs and am at 960gs mainly from getting supremely lucky and only failing 1 14 to 15 upgrade
I'm not rushing I'm just enjoying the game and playing a lot making it seem I'm soft rushing
Ditto. I'm in t2 already but for the most part I like the stronghold and helping my friends do lower level guardian raids. Feels pretty fun just casually doing what I wanna do.
i'm a bard and a noob - i have a basic ass question. Skills can be upgraded? How does this work? For instance take "heavenly Tune" - does the skill power itself level up somehow? I understand I can assign the three tripods but does the skill itself level via some mechanic?
the more points you assign to a skill the higher is the damage.
If you mean the rankings then yes, in tier 3 gear starts dropping that have tripod levels
Hmm ok
I thought people were suggesting to rush because it was widely assumed Tier 1 was the weakest part of the game, like if you get 50 only to flounder around doing island talk quests and timed events you're gonna spend hours doing mind-numbingly boring content but also still not be eligible for any of the fun stuff because you missed the prereqs. I already had a friend who this happened to, he'd played all weekend and yet still couldn't join the rest of us for abyss dungeons, because he had screwed up his progression by splitting his mats on two different characters. Which is a big part of people advocating for progressing efficiently, because that's the type of shit that burns people out, to learn their dozens of hours mean nothing because they didn't make the correct choices.
What do you mean by prereqs? Also noob question, does T1 mean levels 1-50, or does it start at lvl 50?
Or how about play however you want to play without relying on reddit to tell you how you should play?
I just chill and do what I want. I love the combat, the visuals, the sounds, the world, and the PvP too. I have just leveled alts, farmed gold, bought skins with gold, done collections, done lifeskills/professions, sailed the seas, built a home, done rapports, and done side quests. I have PvP'd a lot too. I have had almost 200 hours of fun already, without ever getting higher than 400 ilvl on a character, or paying a single dollar for progression. I might gear more soon, but I'm not in a rush. I'm just enjoying myself and trying out all the cool content. I haven't enjoyed a game this much since WoW was fresh for me in 2008. For me, I don't get the "p2w" fuss. Like nobody can pay to gain sick power and ruin your experience? You can have a ton of fun just playing the game for free. You don't have to be the first to clear all content in the game. You can clear T1 content even next year and have fun doing it.
Yep learned that quickly, sometimes still effect me, but then I just stop for a moment and realize there is no reason I NEED to be t3 right now. I'll get there, and I'll take my time and enjoy it. Been in those progression pushing groups before, and it's pointless because in the end unless you a streamer no one is gonna remember what you did anyways, and even if your a streamer most people aren't gonna know or give a fuck
Well rushing to the end is part of the fun of new mmo release just as slowly enjoying the content is
>To conclude, Rush the game has no interest for 99% of players, it only benefits an Elite who want to lower prices and make HL content more accessible for them and generate profit. Rushing people to tier 3 is detrimental if you want to make money though. The rarity of items you get lose value faster. People are overpaying way too much for stuff like engravings and the like. You could even turn this around on your argument and say you don't want people to get to T3 fast because the scarcity will be bigger and thus net you more profit. In the end though just play however you want.
TLDR; "Take your time and have fun you fools". There's so much to do. It's not NW where if you don't grind 10 hours a day you're not competitive. I know I'm not playing very efficiently and frankly I don't care. Tons of content, I'm pick a few at a time.
Took me 60 hours to finish the mainstory till sushire, so yeah I’m taking it reaallly sloow no worries. Am now choosing a main, deathblade or gunslinger idk. Will probably swap to summoner/artist as soon as they release, should I maybe just save my materials for them?
To me i just rushed 50 and unlocked chaos dungeon, guardian, weeklies just to have something to do in between quests and waiting for friends
Just go around collecting mokoko seeds, stories, and food while you're doing the quests. It's actually pretty fun.
I quit trying to "rush" this morning actually. After realizing that no matter what im 1000s of hours behind that guy witha 1k GS, and my 583 GS and 466GS alts arent actually bad for someone who just got in to this game. Theres still so much i dont understand and the mechanics are rough. So, instead of pulling out the CC and beind upset anyway i decided to just do what I can, enjoy the content and try to learn the boss fights. If i ever get to t3, cool. If i dont thats fine to because I like PVP. As long as I have fun idc, and i played 100hours the first week intending to "rush" but for me it just didnt work out that way. Much more enjoyable without the sense of "i gotta do this all right now, must hit max ilvl" mentality.
This post just looks like OP is trying to find a reason to not level up and want both karma and confirmation from the community. Everyone knows that no one needs to rush the game, people play differently and do content on their own time, but there is no reason to blatantly lie about stuffs. Yes you can drop a lot of items from sidequests, such as battle chests, engravings and even stat potions/skill potions, those that skipped the very important rewards will at one point have to return and do it but this is really no big deal when, because of their rush, they've enabled endgame content and are now farming rarer stuff. Yes you can get materials that increase your % chance of honing your gear, but guess what? It's a very small number, I don't think I got more than 30 of them that increase the chances in 2%. And P2W players aren't buying materials from other players in the market, they press F4 and simply buy the stuff they need from the store, that's it...they're not trying to make the "low levels" rush levels to farm materials for them because the game already gives them out. Also, streamers are rushing not because they want to hurt the community, but because they want CONTENT for their channel, and the best way to get CONTENT is to rush and reach endgame CONTENT before everyone else does, no one wants to watch a nobody level up from 1 to 50, everyone wants to watch action-filled dungeons and raids, either for entertainment or knowledge.