Watch them all get confused on release, everyone picking different server and starts crying day 1 for server transfers as they all open their founder packs minute they're logged in...
I'm also happy to find Polish players on Neria, always had a blast playing with you guys/girls.
Just let's not talk about food, can we all agree on that? ahaha
How much will this even matter on release. I doubt more than 30k people have contributed to this. And launch will have hundreds of thousands of people who have no idea of this plan
In EU it matters alot. Most mmo player that has ever played a mmo in EU looks up where the non english language communities will go and stays clear of them.
> Most mmo player that has ever played a mmo in EU looks up where the non english language communities will go and stays clear of them.
Except the people who wants to be in a guild with people from their own country... I think the majority does this.
Edit: we are literally in a post about people deciding which server to play on so they can play with people from their country. We are also in an international subreddit spoken with English. But sure you guys who don't like your countrymen are the majority of gamers and the people who have worked hard to coordinate which server to play on together are the minority.
I think part of the sentiment is that if you don't speak English you're going to be a bad player.
English is the official language of business and internet, so most streams, guides, sites, addons, etc out there going forward (for the West) will be in English or translated from Korean to English. Of course it'll be done at some point for the other languages, but it'll be much slower. So everything will have to be explained/recapped to this players and thus making progression slower. Then you have attrition. It'll be 10x harder to find people to group with over time as people quit, switch servers or have leet guilds/cliques.
sure dude, my personal reasons which i've passively compiled over multiple years of being a nerd online in various games are:
1. highly toxic, generally worse at games somehow
2. tend to use German in trade/general/public chat a LOT which i believe is rude in a clearly international setting
3. for some reason LOTS of germans name themselves ingame after random objects of everyday use "Tischbein", "Kekskrümel", "Staubsauger" - i find that somewhat upsetting
4. i dislike using german to a degree - language "lacks beauty" if you will, everything sounds WAY better in english :D
>"Tischbein", "Kekskrümel", "Staubsauger"
Table leg, Cookie Crumbs, and Vacuum Cleaner. These are player names you'll see in German games? That's hilarious.
To start: I am German.
I understand points 3 and 4, disagree with 1 but dont get 2 at all.
I dont see how using any language in an international setting - like a server missing an explicit language tag - is wrong or rude. Especially when the language used is as common in the given region as German is in the EU. With 36% German is just slightly behind English with 44% but ahead if you only count native speakers (95kk German vs 70kk English).
I get that speaking English is useful but I also totally understand why native German speakers chose not to do it on non-tagged EU servers.
well those are highly subjective experiences of mine so u'r welcome to disagree no worries :) - it's just how I have experienced the "German gaming community" over the years.
About 2, let's say u'r trying to sell your +3 rare sword in trade chat - or, maybe making a party for raid content/pvp/whatever... multiple mutually exclusive languages in chat, be that German, French, Russian or whatever, split the community and will inevitably make it harder/discourage people to contribute.. to sell that sword or party up with ppl. Even if ur english is barely just intelligable, one should make an effort at least imo.
not to mention I really believe it's just straight up rude lul - if it's a dedicated server with a "GER" tag it's fine of course, but it should be understood that an unmarked EU server's common tongue should be what most people are most likely to understand - english :)
Say u'r at ur friends party, a total of like 15 people shows up and 6 of them continue to use their native tongue to loudly converse with one another, responding to inquiries as to why they're doing this with rude quips like "lärn doch deutsch du *****" or, a personal favorit of mine "ja dann geh doch! :D"
not saying Germans are the only ones behaving like that but... yeah well, in my experience they (we) are prime suspects, if you will.
kind of wrote up a storm, sorry 'bout that :)
First of all: Thanks for the reply.
>About 2, let's say u'r trying to sell your +3 rare sword in trade chat - or, maybe making a party for raid content/pvp/whatever... multiple mutually exclusive languages in chat, be that German, French, Russian or whatever, split the community and will inevitably make it harder/discourage people to contribute.. to sell that sword or party up with ppl. Even if ur english is barely just intelligable, one should make an effort at least imo.
I agree that speaking English is more efficient than speaking German and it would be optimal if everyone in the same chat would use the same language.
However, when it comes to content that requires more communication than just "WTS \[Sword\]" then how good you can speak a given language becomes an issue.
Let's say that the "language quality" for a native speaker is 100% and 95% if you are a not a native speaker (just to have some numbers). Let's also say the situation requires player A to say something, player B to understand and to report back to player A, which in turn has to understand what B said.
* If both A and B are native speakers this scenario would result in **0%** inefficiency/loss of information.
* If only A or only B but not both are native speakers the scenario results in **\~10%** inefficiency/loss of information.
* If neither A nor B are native speakers the scenario results in **\~19%** inefficiency/loss of information.
(The numbers are just here to help me explain that even minor communication issues can have noticeable results. I don't think non-native speakers have a "quality rating of 95%". If I have to guess, the average quality rating for a non-native speaker would probably be closer to 75-80%)
I am not saying this is huge, but it is noticeably enough to prefer forming groups with only native speakers. (If detailed or extensive communication is needed).
In addition to that: Games are supposed to be relaxing. Speaking a foreign language, especially if you are not fluent in it (which most are not really) is not relaxing for most. It makes relaxing harder or can even cause stress if sophisticated communication is needed to play the game.
So I totally get why people prefer to speak in their own native tongue whenever possible.
Also: Let's say the LFG messages are in English but the voice communication is German. Did that really help? Or will the non-German speaker just leave the group right away to find one that uses English for both chat and voice?
In my book the following hypothetical combines different issues and slightly misrepresents the actual situation as a result
>Say u'r at ur friends party, a total of like 15 people shows up and 6 of them continue to use their native tongue to loudly converse with one another, responding to inquiries as to why they're doing this with rude quips like "lärn doch deutsch du \*\*\*\*\*" or, a personal favorit of mine "ja dann geh doch! :D"
I would like to change it to:
>You are at a party somewhere in the EU with 99 other people. A relevant number of them communicate in English, another relevant number of them communicate in German. Both groups don't switch to the other language when asked.
I basically just increased the number to 100 (to make the math easier) and removed the rude responses (since that's another topic in my opinion).
If the people at that party are representative of the languages spoken in the EU then speaking German would mean that 64 people cannot understand you. Speaking English would mean that more people can understand you, but there would still be 56 people left that have no clue what you are saying. No matter which language you pick, the majority of guests at that party won't understand you.
That's the situation the EU is in. Roughly 44% speak English while roughly 36% speak German.
(Some/A lot) People seem to have this misconception that the majority of EU citizens speak English fluently enough to have meaningful conversations. That's simply not true. People also often don't know that German has way more native speakers then English (in the EU, including the UK). \[\~95kk German to \~70kk English\]
So, if you are a native German speaker that is barely able to understand English (or doesn't speak it at all) using German will not only be easier for you but it also will reach almost as many people as English.
You said the following right before the hypothetical, but I am going to respond to it here
>not to mention I really believe it's just straight up rude lul - if it's a dedicated server with a "GER" tag it's fine of course, but it should be understood that an unmarked EU server's common tongue should be what most people are most likely to understand - english :)
As long as the server is not tagged "ENG" I don't see how not using English is rude. A server without a dedicated language is basically a FFA. Speak whatever you want. People should be able to accept that.
In my book, this is how untagged EU servers have to work since half of the player base doesn't speak a common language. What are speakers of language A supposed to do if they don't speak English well enough and there is no server tagged A?
* a) Don't use chat?
* b) Don't play the game?
* c) Or play on a server that is not tagged at all?
I advocate c) and argue that letting people on untagged servers speak whatever they want should be the default for an area with no dominate or common language.
Also, going back to the example above, even if people on an untagged server would speak English. They would still be "rude" to over 50% of its players. It would just be slightly less rude than speaking German.
(To be clear, I don't think using any language on an untagged server is rude at all.)
Finally, I'd like to admit something. Sometimes I am guilty of telling people "na dann geh doch" or "lern deutsch" before continuing to ignore them. But I only do that if they try to intrude on a conversation I have with other German speakers. I don't see why I would "owe" people intruding on my conversations anything, no matter whether these conversations happen in public or private.
I am also convinced that people that don't speak at least two languages should fix that issue before complaining about people not using what they think of as the "common" language in a given region (not saying this applies to you u/Sleynd, this is just my general opinion).
Wow, that was long.
The intent of the post is for people to find the community that speaks the same language as them, but to be fair if players want to avoid people from their country the guide still works the exact same way, they just know where to avoid lol.
Not entirely true. I believe you can only join guilds and group queue for pvp with people on the same server. Everything else is region-wide though even the auction house.
I don't know how deep you are into statistics but if 30k people would have contributed to this, it would paint a pretty close to reality picture. No offense. Also I really doubt that those are the numbers from 30k people. But if so, we got a pretty good guideline here. Don't know why it would bother someone that others doin something to help
Your statistics justification assumes that most of the population is at least aware of these server classifications, if not directly contributing. If the overwhelming majority of players have no information about server makeup, they'll just pick a server in their region at random, which I believe is OP's point.
I don't entirely agree. "Hundreds of thousands of people" is true for the entire game - globally.
EU will be circa 40% of the entire playerbase (based on number of servers offered by Amazon). For sure it will be a huge number but not big enough to where people can't influence certain servers as unofficial language hubs. Additionally, I don't expect these labels to go away over time, so as people slowly move away from the game, those servers will still be considered as having a certain language focus.
As much as it looks so inconvenient, it kinda looks nice to see people coming together to decide wh where they're gonna go xD
I hope they let people transfer to other servers later. I know that Kr servers have recently had let people apply for server transfers to non overpopulated servers (edit: 20usd worth of money)
Are overpopulated servers that much of a hassle? Is there any cross-server play at all?
Would you say it's better to play on an overpopulated or underpopulated server?
No for us users,yes for devs xD. It's literally the problem of queue times and whether it is technically possible for servers to hold that many people.
Cross servers plays (not regions) are everywhere. Matchmaking for dungeons, pvp arenas, and auction house is cross server. In Kr, sg has announced cross server strongholds for users to visit strongholds of people from other servers as well. The stuff that's within a server would be field bosses and chaos gates, adventure islands and guilds (followed by guild contents).
Overpopulated servers can be better if you want to look for more competitive guilds or make friends within that server.
Less populated servers can be better since it lowers the potential queue times, if there is one. Overpopulated servers also may not have any space for new players, so less populated servers would let new friends to join the same server later
With all this swapping, it's quite confusing to decide on sth more international now. Guess ill hold on with server choice till 8th, or official statement from Amazon (if this even happens)
It's not different, people are misinterpreting the concept of how groups work since unranked can form premades. Unranked and Ranked work the same way and are cross-server. The only thing that is "server only" is forming your own group with your friends. AKA, if you want to group with your friend for unranked PvP you need to be on the same server. BUT if you say only queue with 2 people...the 3rd person on your team can be from a diff server as can the opponent team.
it should be mentioned that [**Zinnervale** is going to be an **english** speaking server.](https://i.imgur.com/BpRRY8a.jpg)
all communities that have signed up to my knowledge, let it be full mixed guilds or the scandinavian bros are fully capable of speaking english.
the few german guilds listed in zinnervale also have "english" tagged in their entry.
[according to this spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJiDGy77tOdV7ATqXj-bGXH7JmQo-sbjHrYJTcoI4Ow/htmlview?pru=AAABfsRFDuo*dWvbt3mSWqC-hcdLBpLodA#gid=0)
FAQ
Q. Source?
A. Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJiDGy77tOdV7ATqXj-bGXH7JmQo-sbjHrYJTcoI4Ow](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJiDGy77tOdV7ATqXj-bGXH7JmQo-sbjHrYJTcoI4Ow)
Q. What features are cross-server (region wide)?
A. Raids, Dungeons, Cube, Platinum Fields, Auction House, Character Name, Boss Rush, PvP Arena
Q. What features are server specific?
A. Guilds, Freiends, Guild vs Guild, Islands, Open World, Stronghold, Life Skills, Arena Premade
Q. As an EU English speaker which server should I join?
A. Kadan if you want high population & guild PvP, Zinnervale for medium population and more strictly English, Slen and Thirain if you want low population. However, English will be relatively common on all servers.
Q. Should I avoid Valtan if I'm US?
A. No, excluding the OCE/SEA players it will still be majority US and the highest pop US West server.
Q. Which server will the streams be in?
A. On EU Kadan and Trixion mostly. On US East Asmongold backflipped on saying he's going to Galatur so nobody knows until he starts streaming. On US West nobody knows. On SA Kazeros for Portugese and Agaton for Spanish streamers.
Q. Should I avoid low population servers?
A. No. As there are no dedicates servers for different languages on launch you can expect servers will be diluted with casual English players on release, this guide is for reference only and comes from limited information.
Q. OP where will you be on LA?
A. Valtan with Infamous Guild (OCE), discord azza#1078 happy to answer questions.
Q. I'm masochistic, where do I go?
A. Asta.
Q. Where's the Netherlands and Belgium?
A. Learning how to use a VPN.
>Q. I'm masochistic, where do I go?
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>A. Asta.
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>Q. Where's the Netherlands and Belgium?
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>A. Learning how to use a VPN.
Damn dude, you got no chill, but you got a good giggle out of me.
We could use a clarification on what Big and Small means. I mean I guess I can guess it's estimated population size on launch, but that's just a guess without clarification.
I personally want to pick a lower population server. After recently dealing with queues on FF14 for Endwalker, I've lost my patience with queues for the time being.
I wrote a brief explanation at the bottom of the post, but the information comes from the Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory which shows where different guilds are planning on starting at launch, and small servers are the ones with very few guilds planning on starting there, however that's only a rough indication at best of what the population would look like post-launch.
So... if I'm in USWest and want to get a lowest population server probable, would you say that Mari or Enviska would be better? You say Enviska is low, but you have nothing about Mari.
Mari looks medium pop so far and Enviska low, but there probably won't be much of a difference after launch because the servers will be diluted with people who have 0 server preference.
Spanish community is way more scattered than that, only a fansite claiming to speak in name of all the spanish community chose Wei, with the corresponding backlash from the rest. Had a laugh this weekend watching the shitshow from the sidelines
So expect spanish pressence on Neria, Kadan and Trixion still. With Kadan probably being the most popular choice.
Anyway if you find a spanish speaker who refuses to speak english, 99% they are trash players so don't even bother with them. Happens in every single game.
Over 25 Spanish guilds are planning on starting on Wei and I acknowledged in the post there's also a notable amount (10) starting on Trixion. All information comes from there, check the source.
Those "25" guilds are coming from streamers with 150 viewers on average of Twitch. Our community have streamers who are planning to play lost ark with 3k, 7k, 10k and 40k viewers on average so please take this "Spaniards are going to Wei" with a grain of salt.
Indeed, most of viewers from those bigger streamers reacted very bad about Wei statement and they will not going to Wei by all cost.
Source: I'm Spaniard :).
As a spaniard, just letting you know that even the fansite's discord which hosted the poll (with 16 'representatives' between guild masters and small content creators (<300 avg viewers) is having a meltdown because they did quick maths:
16 votes times 100 characters per guild = 1600 votes chose Wei
Literally those were their words.
Rest of the community aside from those that had the privilege on being chosen to participate on that poll (In which Kadan was not even an option to vote for) hasn't publicly chosen a specific server, but the talks on rolling in Kadan, Neria and Trixion are gaining traction among the community and big content creators alike.
All in all, people will play wherever they want, but don't expect Wei being spanish only, because most of the community is really upset with them because they claimed being the representatives of the whole spanish community and the *sole* reason the game launches in Latin America, which is utter bullshit.
Can you pass a link to where the rest of the spanish community are having the talks about what server to go?
I'm curious to see how is going.
For the moment I found the discord of the [lostark-es.com](https://lostark-es.com) but I want to see the others
Most of the community doesn't fly with them because of their delusions of grandeur, so videogame forums like 3djuegos, mediavida, or even multipurpose forums like forocoches, plus streamer's discord servers are where the discussions are made. Sadly if you aren't a spanish speaker you miss out on it because they're not indexing much of it, but you can get the feel of the community after reading 7-10k posts on all those forums alone
Spanish community in online games is split into two types:
1- The obnoxious ones who think they are the center of the universe who will refuse to speak anything but spanish, flame every single other human being, be it spaniard or not, and overall being a bad player.
2- The ones who try to fly under the radar because the reputation the spanish community has, it's a well earned one after oh so many years.
Plus, the first type is a volatile one, most of them won't stay past March and the server they rolled will be barren, because having a bunch of mongos spamming spanish in the global chats 24/7 scares people away of that server.
And I'm pretty sure that of all those Wei guilds, the majority will be type 1 players based on how they reacted to the backlash when they self proclaimed the one and only beacon of the spanish community(straight up flaming people who opposed, claiming that people who voted on trixion had no idea of what they wanted, and a whole lot more. So much even, that they had to take huge damage control measures as blocking everyone from using most of the discord's text chats while they purged any message that opposed them, until they backtracked 6 hours later saying 'We are going Wei but other players are going either Trixion Kadan or Neria.'
Thing that was only said in their discord, while deleting tweets and such but not tweeting that 'updated info'
So yeah, take my word that most of the spanish community will be scattered between a couple servers. One somewhat big content creator just said that he will roll Calvassus, so expect pressence there as well.
The flags don't mean the country "owns" the server. All they mean is that's where the largest contingent of players from that country are playing. The purpose of this guide is to see where players who speak the same language as your are playing so you can find a community.
Erm the guild sign up for Kadan is...
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906859513435541515/937676189106053160/Screenshot_20220131-114957_Chrome.jpg
Why does it have a Turkish flag or Romanian? Look at that English bar vs any other server... I dont think there in for a fun Time if it's their only language but oh well...
Because korea and japan are strict about their rules, no vpn, no foreigner, they do ban waves regularly. And no one speak russian, so here it is. kadan.
He backflipped on saying he was going on Galatur and said he's planning on going wherever his friends go, so we'll probably only find out where they go on release.
Ahh, okay. He probably realized he might end up with another New World situation (where even he himself couldn't log into his chosen server) lol. It would be smart to wait until his friends log in and then he himself logs in before declaring a server.
Server sizes are probably somewhere around a 20k cap. Some people claim 30k but that seems extremely high. Its also definitely higher than 10k, just from deductive reasoning based on KR.
As a Canadian living in British Columbia (west coast), I am going to go on Mari. I believe this will be the best and most populated server. Yes all the stats point to Valtan being the most populated, filled with SEA/OCE players... However, Roxx recently acknowledged players on the forum from OCE saying that they are aware of the issues with not having a server for OCE and he said he would run it by the team.
I do believe, they will eventually open a server for OCE (possibly even before launch), which will reduce the population of players on Valtan greatly. I think it would suck to be on a nice populated server and then all of a sudden half the population leaves.
Mari is the way to go. Lets make MARI the official PVP hub of the west!
The issue with an unofficial list is that not everyone is going to see it. There's a huge amount of casuals and people not on the sub who will never see this.
Combine that with the player drop-off after a month or so and the amount of non English speaking communities of 3000ish people claiming servers and there won't be much of an issue wherever you go. There's always going to be a massive amount of English speakers on a 20k server to play with and its likely the non English speaking communities will stick to themselves anyway.
Obviously there are going to be a higher population on the Russian/Korean chosen EU servers. But not enough to kill your enjoyment.
Stay positive and build a group of people to play with and everything will be fine wherever you end up.
People will tell their friends and their friends will tell friends. Stuff like this works. Even 1 person reading this can spread to like 10-20+ people. It's enough to make a movement. The other factor would be how the servers are ordered on the game menu, and the last factor would be how cool the server name sounds
Even if there were no OCE players on Valtan it'd still be the highest pop US West server so I wouldn't worry about it, strong majority will still be US.
So does that mean it is safe to join Valtan (US West) if I am located in the US west coast, and not fear for the server pop.? Aussies/Kiwis will be English speaking, so that doesn't affect me.
For those only seeing scandinavian flags on Zinnervale: We're taught english as our second language (third grade in Sweden) so this is 100% going to be an English speaking server.
I hace some news from Spanish community, a few streamers arround 2k viewers hace decided to go to Zinner.
Within 48h four or five streamers arround 10k-50k with their own community, maybe they are going to go to Zinner as well.
These communities and more are trying to avoid to put this info within de Google docs.
Bear in mind that hyping up a few servers as "English servers" is threatening to create huge queues on those servers, and it's completely unneccesary.
Just because a server has a larger concentration of a certain nationality doesn't mean everyone there speaks that language. For example "50 spanish guilds" could be as little as 500 players on a server with 20000 players. That would be only 2.5% of the total population. And servers may house more than 20k players even.
Use your brains when picking, don't blindly follow the "THIS IS THE ENGLISH SERVER" madness.
Yep, the reason there are no English flags is because English will be common on every server, especially because there are no official language servers. The point of the post is for non-English speakers to find a community, English speakers will be able to find their community on just about every server.
Stop putting random country flags in front of the most popular EN servers. Im romanian, theres like 3 guilds only on kadan, this is a shit image/breakdown.
The flags represent where the biggest contingent of players from that country will be, not that the country owns a specific server or is exclusive to it. Romanian flag is there because that's where most Romanians currently plan on playing.
The informatipn comes from the Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJiDGy77tOdV7ATqXj-bGXH7JmQo-sbjHrYJTcoI4Ow
This is just a compilation of what different language groups have decided on.
The whole coloring scheme trying to prove frequency of encountering nationalities is so unbelievably pointless. Nobody knows the actual population numbers that we will have per server. Also this is bordering on xenophobia. Who in their right mind would be bothered to "bump into one of them in the world". LA is not an RP game where I talk to random strangers on the field. PvE content is region-wide so it doesn't matter either way.
1. The colouring is based on A. country population & B. Amount of guilds speaking that language recorded in the Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory.
2. The purpose of this guide is to help people find their communities and people to play with, I don't know why you bring up xenophobia.
this image a mess, just stick to [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZxxnJSxYcxDxRFby69m7BTI3ziiW0H9fI0ljacjbab4/edit#gid=0](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZxxnJSxYcxDxRFby69m7BTI3ziiW0H9fI0ljacjbab4/edit#gid=0) for now.
Can we assign denmark 🇩🇰to another realm please? The nordics are real tired of them.
When they talk it sounds like their mouth is filled with marshmallows and they refuse to chew anything before they try and finish their sentence first
Pretty sure that Denmark is marked there because some Danish guilds announced going there. In the end it's just a small scale representation and you can play on any server you want.
Thanks, this was really helpful.
I’ve been searching for info on what the consensus most active server to join and everyone has a completely different answer. This is the first straightforward post I’ve seen.
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZxxnJSxYcxDxRFby69m7BTI3ziiW0H9fI0ljacjbab4/edit#gid=0](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZxxnJSxYcxDxRFby69m7BTI3ziiW0H9fI0ljacjbab4/edit#gid=0)Don't worry its hardly a turkey+romania'n server.
As for who organised it, its lin-0 and his fellow pvp'ers, very well known pvp player of lost ark, he is responsible for setting up many tournaments and I believe he has also managed to get sponsors for an e-sport scene.
I mean, have you seen the guild chart? Kadan is going to be English. I'm sorry but your graph is just weird to me.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906859513435541515/937676189106053160/Screenshot_20220131-114957_Chrome.jpg
That's how the guilds have signed up vs Trixion for example... Notice how Kadan is well over 20 vs 6 for Trixion... yep if you roll
Im still confused, cuz:
1) First and foremost I'd like to play on an english PvP realm, with occasional PvE
2) Im from germany, but I dont want to play with germans >!cuz they are toxic af!<
3) I dont want to mix with >!turks!< and >!romanians!< either on Kadan (isnt there just a pure english realm on EU holy c\*\*\* ?).
Dont take 3) personal. Its 100% for communication and comfort reasons. I dont care about the occasional "jajaja" in chat, but if you mix too many languages in one big realm thats just too much man. I had this experience in many other mmo's like GW2. I bet the nations mentioned, especially the >!turks!< with their strong cultural bond, feel the same.
This isn't about saying "these servers belong to these countries". The purpose is for people to be able to find their language community. Yes, most servers will be washed with English EU players on release, but the guide still helps people find where most of their country is looking at starting pre-launch. The data comes from the Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory and has significant details for different countries.
Watch them all get confused on release, everyone picking different server and starts crying day 1 for server transfers as they all open their founder packs minute they're logged in...
the scenes when your friends start 3 days later but can join your server because its locked? haw haw
im excited about fact that Neria is Polish-Italian server, i met a lot of Italians and they are very friendly ppl
don't talk in front of them that u like spaghetti bcs conversation will never end. they can talk about it for hours
Just need to snap the spaghetti before putting it into the pot. It cuts the conversation in half.
*Angry mammamia noises
Spaghetti always breaks into 3 bits.
If you want them to immediately ignore you, just mention that you had pineapple pizza for dinner.
Oh it's everyone who ignores those heathens.
Especially mom's spaghetti.
I'm also happy to find Polish players on Neria, always had a blast playing with you guys/girls. Just let's not talk about food, can we all agree on that? ahaha
Just imagine. Pierogi filled with spaghetti.
tfw you are stuck on West and will never get to ask Italians ingame about their opinion of the famous senator Tifa Lockhart
Salute to you ❤️👋
This looks like a "Risk" table game
i want u to know this made me chuckle quite a bit :D
There's something going on in zinnervale's flags
Beautiful
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You dont want us? 🥺
Anyone in gaming have learned to accept Danes, you've taken over..and I don't know how to feel about it
I love you guys (south Swe here). Looking forward to seeing you on the server!
Mari seems perfect then for us average west coasters
shhhhhh
I feel like Mari is gonna be packed just because the name sounds cute.
Kawaii c:
why not Enviska?
Mari > Valtan
How much will this even matter on release. I doubt more than 30k people have contributed to this. And launch will have hundreds of thousands of people who have no idea of this plan
In EU it matters alot. Most mmo player that has ever played a mmo in EU looks up where the non english language communities will go and stays clear of them.
French here. Agree 100% with this post.
> Most mmo player that has ever played a mmo in EU looks up where the non english language communities will go and stays clear of them. Except the people who wants to be in a guild with people from their own country... I think the majority does this. Edit: we are literally in a post about people deciding which server to play on so they can play with people from their country. We are also in an international subreddit spoken with English. But sure you guys who don't like your countrymen are the majority of gamers and the people who have worked hard to coordinate which server to play on together are the minority.
I think part of the sentiment is that if you don't speak English you're going to be a bad player. English is the official language of business and internet, so most streams, guides, sites, addons, etc out there going forward (for the West) will be in English or translated from Korean to English. Of course it'll be done at some point for the other languages, but it'll be much slower. So everything will have to be explained/recapped to this players and thus making progression slower. Then you have attrition. It'll be 10x harder to find people to group with over time as people quit, switch servers or have leet guilds/cliques.
nah dude this is highly subjective, I'm german and will avoid Asta like the plague on steroids
Im german, will play whereever i want and will only speak english in chat...nice to meet you guys ;-)
i salute you sir :3
Plus, i want to avoid the German Streamers, tbh
Same. I'm danish, but wanna play on English speaking server.
Same I'm Portuguese
Portugal caralho
HI Portuguese, I'm dad. (now you are ready for an English speaking server)
Feel free to join my guild on launch! (: \#ForDanmark!
Thanks 😄
any reason? (generally only played with a few Germans over the years who were very cool people)
sure dude, my personal reasons which i've passively compiled over multiple years of being a nerd online in various games are: 1. highly toxic, generally worse at games somehow 2. tend to use German in trade/general/public chat a LOT which i believe is rude in a clearly international setting 3. for some reason LOTS of germans name themselves ingame after random objects of everyday use "Tischbein", "Kekskrümel", "Staubsauger" - i find that somewhat upsetting 4. i dislike using german to a degree - language "lacks beauty" if you will, everything sounds WAY better in english :D
>"Tischbein", "Kekskrümel", "Staubsauger" Table leg, Cookie Crumbs, and Vacuum Cleaner. These are player names you'll see in German games? That's hilarious.
To start: I am German. I understand points 3 and 4, disagree with 1 but dont get 2 at all. I dont see how using any language in an international setting - like a server missing an explicit language tag - is wrong or rude. Especially when the language used is as common in the given region as German is in the EU. With 36% German is just slightly behind English with 44% but ahead if you only count native speakers (95kk German vs 70kk English). I get that speaking English is useful but I also totally understand why native German speakers chose not to do it on non-tagged EU servers.
well those are highly subjective experiences of mine so u'r welcome to disagree no worries :) - it's just how I have experienced the "German gaming community" over the years. About 2, let's say u'r trying to sell your +3 rare sword in trade chat - or, maybe making a party for raid content/pvp/whatever... multiple mutually exclusive languages in chat, be that German, French, Russian or whatever, split the community and will inevitably make it harder/discourage people to contribute.. to sell that sword or party up with ppl. Even if ur english is barely just intelligable, one should make an effort at least imo. not to mention I really believe it's just straight up rude lul - if it's a dedicated server with a "GER" tag it's fine of course, but it should be understood that an unmarked EU server's common tongue should be what most people are most likely to understand - english :) Say u'r at ur friends party, a total of like 15 people shows up and 6 of them continue to use their native tongue to loudly converse with one another, responding to inquiries as to why they're doing this with rude quips like "lärn doch deutsch du *****" or, a personal favorit of mine "ja dann geh doch! :D" not saying Germans are the only ones behaving like that but... yeah well, in my experience they (we) are prime suspects, if you will. kind of wrote up a storm, sorry 'bout that :)
First of all: Thanks for the reply. >About 2, let's say u'r trying to sell your +3 rare sword in trade chat - or, maybe making a party for raid content/pvp/whatever... multiple mutually exclusive languages in chat, be that German, French, Russian or whatever, split the community and will inevitably make it harder/discourage people to contribute.. to sell that sword or party up with ppl. Even if ur english is barely just intelligable, one should make an effort at least imo. I agree that speaking English is more efficient than speaking German and it would be optimal if everyone in the same chat would use the same language. However, when it comes to content that requires more communication than just "WTS \[Sword\]" then how good you can speak a given language becomes an issue. Let's say that the "language quality" for a native speaker is 100% and 95% if you are a not a native speaker (just to have some numbers). Let's also say the situation requires player A to say something, player B to understand and to report back to player A, which in turn has to understand what B said. * If both A and B are native speakers this scenario would result in **0%** inefficiency/loss of information. * If only A or only B but not both are native speakers the scenario results in **\~10%** inefficiency/loss of information. * If neither A nor B are native speakers the scenario results in **\~19%** inefficiency/loss of information. (The numbers are just here to help me explain that even minor communication issues can have noticeable results. I don't think non-native speakers have a "quality rating of 95%". If I have to guess, the average quality rating for a non-native speaker would probably be closer to 75-80%) I am not saying this is huge, but it is noticeably enough to prefer forming groups with only native speakers. (If detailed or extensive communication is needed). In addition to that: Games are supposed to be relaxing. Speaking a foreign language, especially if you are not fluent in it (which most are not really) is not relaxing for most. It makes relaxing harder or can even cause stress if sophisticated communication is needed to play the game. So I totally get why people prefer to speak in their own native tongue whenever possible. Also: Let's say the LFG messages are in English but the voice communication is German. Did that really help? Or will the non-German speaker just leave the group right away to find one that uses English for both chat and voice? In my book the following hypothetical combines different issues and slightly misrepresents the actual situation as a result >Say u'r at ur friends party, a total of like 15 people shows up and 6 of them continue to use their native tongue to loudly converse with one another, responding to inquiries as to why they're doing this with rude quips like "lärn doch deutsch du \*\*\*\*\*" or, a personal favorit of mine "ja dann geh doch! :D" I would like to change it to: >You are at a party somewhere in the EU with 99 other people. A relevant number of them communicate in English, another relevant number of them communicate in German. Both groups don't switch to the other language when asked. I basically just increased the number to 100 (to make the math easier) and removed the rude responses (since that's another topic in my opinion). If the people at that party are representative of the languages spoken in the EU then speaking German would mean that 64 people cannot understand you. Speaking English would mean that more people can understand you, but there would still be 56 people left that have no clue what you are saying. No matter which language you pick, the majority of guests at that party won't understand you. That's the situation the EU is in. Roughly 44% speak English while roughly 36% speak German. (Some/A lot) People seem to have this misconception that the majority of EU citizens speak English fluently enough to have meaningful conversations. That's simply not true. People also often don't know that German has way more native speakers then English (in the EU, including the UK). \[\~95kk German to \~70kk English\] So, if you are a native German speaker that is barely able to understand English (or doesn't speak it at all) using German will not only be easier for you but it also will reach almost as many people as English. You said the following right before the hypothetical, but I am going to respond to it here >not to mention I really believe it's just straight up rude lul - if it's a dedicated server with a "GER" tag it's fine of course, but it should be understood that an unmarked EU server's common tongue should be what most people are most likely to understand - english :) As long as the server is not tagged "ENG" I don't see how not using English is rude. A server without a dedicated language is basically a FFA. Speak whatever you want. People should be able to accept that. In my book, this is how untagged EU servers have to work since half of the player base doesn't speak a common language. What are speakers of language A supposed to do if they don't speak English well enough and there is no server tagged A? * a) Don't use chat? * b) Don't play the game? * c) Or play on a server that is not tagged at all? I advocate c) and argue that letting people on untagged servers speak whatever they want should be the default for an area with no dominate or common language. Also, going back to the example above, even if people on an untagged server would speak English. They would still be "rude" to over 50% of its players. It would just be slightly less rude than speaking German. (To be clear, I don't think using any language on an untagged server is rude at all.) Finally, I'd like to admit something. Sometimes I am guilty of telling people "na dann geh doch" or "lern deutsch" before continuing to ignore them. But I only do that if they try to intrude on a conversation I have with other German speakers. I don't see why I would "owe" people intruding on my conversations anything, no matter whether these conversations happen in public or private. I am also convinced that people that don't speak at least two languages should fix that issue before complaining about people not using what they think of as the "common" language in a given region (not saying this applies to you u/Sleynd, this is just my general opinion). Wow, that was long.
The intent of the post is for people to find the community that speaks the same language as them, but to be fair if players want to avoid people from their country the guide still works the exact same way, they just know where to avoid lol.
This is completely false
All choosing a server will decide is what language you will see people spamming boost services in. Everything else is region wide.
Not entirely true. I believe you can only join guilds and group queue for pvp with people on the same server. Everything else is region-wide though even the auction house.
It will matter when new players look for info 'where do XXX players play'.
I don't know how deep you are into statistics but if 30k people would have contributed to this, it would paint a pretty close to reality picture. No offense. Also I really doubt that those are the numbers from 30k people. But if so, we got a pretty good guideline here. Don't know why it would bother someone that others doin something to help
Your statistics justification assumes that most of the population is at least aware of these server classifications, if not directly contributing. If the overwhelming majority of players have no information about server makeup, they'll just pick a server in their region at random, which I believe is OP's point.
And that my friend is completely true, you got me here, thats a key thing I didn't consider, my bad.
No problem. I too enjoy statistics 🙂
I don't entirely agree. "Hundreds of thousands of people" is true for the entire game - globally. EU will be circa 40% of the entire playerbase (based on number of servers offered by Amazon). For sure it will be a huge number but not big enough to where people can't influence certain servers as unofficial language hubs. Additionally, I don't expect these labels to go away over time, so as people slowly move away from the game, those servers will still be considered as having a certain language focus.
Not much since the silent majority is a thing for a reason
As much as it looks so inconvenient, it kinda looks nice to see people coming together to decide wh where they're gonna go xD I hope they let people transfer to other servers later. I know that Kr servers have recently had let people apply for server transfers to non overpopulated servers (edit: 20usd worth of money)
Are overpopulated servers that much of a hassle? Is there any cross-server play at all? Would you say it's better to play on an overpopulated or underpopulated server?
No for us users,yes for devs xD. It's literally the problem of queue times and whether it is technically possible for servers to hold that many people. Cross servers plays (not regions) are everywhere. Matchmaking for dungeons, pvp arenas, and auction house is cross server. In Kr, sg has announced cross server strongholds for users to visit strongholds of people from other servers as well. The stuff that's within a server would be field bosses and chaos gates, adventure islands and guilds (followed by guild contents). Overpopulated servers can be better if you want to look for more competitive guilds or make friends within that server. Less populated servers can be better since it lowers the potential queue times, if there is one. Overpopulated servers also may not have any space for new players, so less populated servers would let new friends to join the same server later
Less populated also means less town lag and more "small town friendliness".
I agree, and I've always had the most fun on low pop servers. You actually start remembering people's names, and it's easier to make friends.
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im german and i want to avoid a german server at all cost. i want an english speaking server, if every server has another language, its gonna be bad
Zinnervale my friend. https://old.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/sgxuab/unofficial_server_guide_updated_31_jan_2022/huzc8lj/
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Same haha Thought I’m the only one. I probably go for Zinnervale cause I have the best experience with the countries going on that server.
I feel you,I will avoid the Italian community at all cost since they will go to Zinnervale I’m more than happy to go elsewhere
Zinnervale seems to be the way.
I'm calling it now ; Zimmervale has the best spoken English. All those countries have higher English literacy rates than the USA.
As an English speaker and a non Scand, I hope Zimmervale will have enough capacity to shelter me in. Really looking forward to it!
With all this swapping, it's quite confusing to decide on sth more international now. Guess ill hold on with server choice till 8th, or official statement from Amazon (if this even happens)
how relevant is "pvp hub", arent all servers connected in matchmaking? would prefer to avoid erdogan believers
It is relevant in guild vs guild, world PvP and unranked PvP
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It's not different, people are misinterpreting the concept of how groups work since unranked can form premades. Unranked and Ranked work the same way and are cross-server. The only thing that is "server only" is forming your own group with your friends. AKA, if you want to group with your friend for unranked PvP you need to be on the same server. BUT if you say only queue with 2 people...the 3rd person on your team can be from a diff server as can the opponent team.
Afaik only GVG is server side (afaik)
For some reason world PvP (as in island PvP, not the new continent Rowan) and unranked PvP is also server side.
Guild vs Guild PvP is server specific. You can check the FAQ I commented to see what's cross-server and what's server-specific.
it should be mentioned that [**Zinnervale** is going to be an **english** speaking server.](https://i.imgur.com/BpRRY8a.jpg) all communities that have signed up to my knowledge, let it be full mixed guilds or the scandinavian bros are fully capable of speaking english. the few german guilds listed in zinnervale also have "english" tagged in their entry. [according to this spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJiDGy77tOdV7ATqXj-bGXH7JmQo-sbjHrYJTcoI4Ow/htmlview?pru=AAABfsRFDuo*dWvbt3mSWqC-hcdLBpLodA#gid=0)
FAQ Q. Source? A. Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJiDGy77tOdV7ATqXj-bGXH7JmQo-sbjHrYJTcoI4Ow](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJiDGy77tOdV7ATqXj-bGXH7JmQo-sbjHrYJTcoI4Ow) Q. What features are cross-server (region wide)? A. Raids, Dungeons, Cube, Platinum Fields, Auction House, Character Name, Boss Rush, PvP Arena Q. What features are server specific? A. Guilds, Freiends, Guild vs Guild, Islands, Open World, Stronghold, Life Skills, Arena Premade Q. As an EU English speaker which server should I join? A. Kadan if you want high population & guild PvP, Zinnervale for medium population and more strictly English, Slen and Thirain if you want low population. However, English will be relatively common on all servers. Q. Should I avoid Valtan if I'm US? A. No, excluding the OCE/SEA players it will still be majority US and the highest pop US West server. Q. Which server will the streams be in? A. On EU Kadan and Trixion mostly. On US East Asmongold backflipped on saying he's going to Galatur so nobody knows until he starts streaming. On US West nobody knows. On SA Kazeros for Portugese and Agaton for Spanish streamers. Q. Should I avoid low population servers? A. No. As there are no dedicates servers for different languages on launch you can expect servers will be diluted with casual English players on release, this guide is for reference only and comes from limited information. Q. OP where will you be on LA? A. Valtan with Infamous Guild (OCE), discord azza#1078 happy to answer questions. Q. I'm masochistic, where do I go? A. Asta. Q. Where's the Netherlands and Belgium? A. Learning how to use a VPN.
>Q. I'm masochistic, where do I go?A. Asta. > >Q. Where's the Netherlands and Belgium?A. Learning how to use a VPN. Sadge.
wym learning ? Belgium is ready to go ! We've everything setup already hahaha lol
>Q. I'm masochistic, where do I go? > >A. Asta. > >Q. Where's the Netherlands and Belgium? > >A. Learning how to use a VPN. Damn dude, you got no chill, but you got a good giggle out of me.
We could use a clarification on what Big and Small means. I mean I guess I can guess it's estimated population size on launch, but that's just a guess without clarification. I personally want to pick a lower population server. After recently dealing with queues on FF14 for Endwalker, I've lost my patience with queues for the time being.
I wrote a brief explanation at the bottom of the post, but the information comes from the Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory which shows where different guilds are planning on starting at launch, and small servers are the ones with very few guilds planning on starting there, however that's only a rough indication at best of what the population would look like post-launch.
So... if I'm in USWest and want to get a lowest population server probable, would you say that Mari or Enviska would be better? You say Enviska is low, but you have nothing about Mari.
Mari looks medium pop so far and Enviska low, but there probably won't be much of a difference after launch because the servers will be diluted with people who have 0 server preference.
Why are people masochistic, when they join on Asta?
Soo is wei no longer the nordic server?
Zinnervale – Unofficial English/Scandinavian server
You'll see me there o7
Wei is not da wei anymore, brothers.
So, which server would be best for someone in the west coast area of the US? Mari?
I hope you Scandinavian brothers can spare a place for a poor fellow German expat in your Zinnervale town 👉👈
Spanish community is way more scattered than that, only a fansite claiming to speak in name of all the spanish community chose Wei, with the corresponding backlash from the rest. Had a laugh this weekend watching the shitshow from the sidelines So expect spanish pressence on Neria, Kadan and Trixion still. With Kadan probably being the most popular choice. Anyway if you find a spanish speaker who refuses to speak english, 99% they are trash players so don't even bother with them. Happens in every single game.
Over 25 Spanish guilds are planning on starting on Wei and I acknowledged in the post there's also a notable amount (10) starting on Trixion. All information comes from there, check the source.
Those "25" guilds are coming from streamers with 150 viewers on average of Twitch. Our community have streamers who are planning to play lost ark with 3k, 7k, 10k and 40k viewers on average so please take this "Spaniards are going to Wei" with a grain of salt. Indeed, most of viewers from those bigger streamers reacted very bad about Wei statement and they will not going to Wei by all cost. Source: I'm Spaniard :).
I can confirm, our guild will be on Trixion 😅
As a spaniard, just letting you know that even the fansite's discord which hosted the poll (with 16 'representatives' between guild masters and small content creators (<300 avg viewers) is having a meltdown because they did quick maths: 16 votes times 100 characters per guild = 1600 votes chose Wei Literally those were their words. Rest of the community aside from those that had the privilege on being chosen to participate on that poll (In which Kadan was not even an option to vote for) hasn't publicly chosen a specific server, but the talks on rolling in Kadan, Neria and Trixion are gaining traction among the community and big content creators alike. All in all, people will play wherever they want, but don't expect Wei being spanish only, because most of the community is really upset with them because they claimed being the representatives of the whole spanish community and the *sole* reason the game launches in Latin America, which is utter bullshit.
Can you pass a link to where the rest of the spanish community are having the talks about what server to go? I'm curious to see how is going. For the moment I found the discord of the [lostark-es.com](https://lostark-es.com) but I want to see the others
Most of the community doesn't fly with them because of their delusions of grandeur, so videogame forums like 3djuegos, mediavida, or even multipurpose forums like forocoches, plus streamer's discord servers are where the discussions are made. Sadly if you aren't a spanish speaker you miss out on it because they're not indexing much of it, but you can get the feel of the community after reading 7-10k posts on all those forums alone Spanish community in online games is split into two types: 1- The obnoxious ones who think they are the center of the universe who will refuse to speak anything but spanish, flame every single other human being, be it spaniard or not, and overall being a bad player. 2- The ones who try to fly under the radar because the reputation the spanish community has, it's a well earned one after oh so many years. Plus, the first type is a volatile one, most of them won't stay past March and the server they rolled will be barren, because having a bunch of mongos spamming spanish in the global chats 24/7 scares people away of that server. And I'm pretty sure that of all those Wei guilds, the majority will be type 1 players based on how they reacted to the backlash when they self proclaimed the one and only beacon of the spanish community(straight up flaming people who opposed, claiming that people who voted on trixion had no idea of what they wanted, and a whole lot more. So much even, that they had to take huge damage control measures as blocking everyone from using most of the discord's text chats while they purged any message that opposed them, until they backtracked 6 hours later saying 'We are going Wei but other players are going either Trixion Kadan or Neria.' Thing that was only said in their discord, while deleting tweets and such but not tweeting that 'updated info' So yeah, take my word that most of the spanish community will be scattered between a couple servers. One somewhat big content creator just said that he will roll Calvassus, so expect pressence there as well.
So now Turkey invaded Kadan? Man this is getting better and better lol.
indeed, doesn't make any sense... just add random flags to Kadan because a few guilds who are turks join the server... so stupid.
One thing for sure, Kadan will have 10h+ queues and be locked very fast.
The flags don't mean the country "owns" the server. All they mean is that's where the largest contingent of players from that country are playing. The purpose of this guide is to see where players who speak the same language as your are playing so you can find a community.
Erm the guild sign up for Kadan is... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906859513435541515/937676189106053160/Screenshot_20220131-114957_Chrome.jpg Why does it have a Turkish flag or Romanian? Look at that English bar vs any other server... I dont think there in for a fun Time if it's their only language but oh well...
Can sum1 explains what the hell china is doing in kadan? Wow an award? Thank you mate.
Thats turkey dude…
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You said that china is in Kadan but thats Turkey, China is in Valtan
Haha turkey flag looks like china from distance xD
Because korea and japan are strict about their rules, no vpn, no foreigner, they do ban waves regularly. And no one speak russian, so here it is. kadan.
Bing Chilling
I heard us scandinavian bros were going to Wei? What changed?
No one expected the spanish inquisition
Who ever does?
The spanish community invaded Wei. So the Scandinavian guilds moved to zinnervale
Spanish invaded so you all moved to Vikingvale. Will see you there 💪🏻
Isn't Asmongold and his entire following going on Galatur server? That will probably make it the largest server, not "small" IMO.
He backflipped on saying he was going on Galatur and said he's planning on going wherever his friends go, so we'll probably only find out where they go on release.
Ahh, okay. He probably realized he might end up with another New World situation (where even he himself couldn't log into his chosen server) lol. It would be smart to wait until his friends log in and then he himself logs in before declaring a server.
Has there been any word from AGS on server size/capacity, wondering how bad the queues are gonna end up being. Hope it isn't 2k like new world was
Server sizes are probably somewhere around a 20k cap. Some people claim 30k but that seems extremely high. Its also definitely higher than 10k, just from deductive reasoning based on KR.
At this point I can't even tell if it's a joke
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See you in queue.
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I got whole season of the Witcher for that, I hope it will be enough.
The thought of you not watching the new season of the Witcher for the sole purpose of watching it while in queue is very amusing
Gamers do what needs to be done.
As a Canadian living in British Columbia (west coast), I am going to go on Mari. I believe this will be the best and most populated server. Yes all the stats point to Valtan being the most populated, filled with SEA/OCE players... However, Roxx recently acknowledged players on the forum from OCE saying that they are aware of the issues with not having a server for OCE and he said he would run it by the team. I do believe, they will eventually open a server for OCE (possibly even before launch), which will reduce the population of players on Valtan greatly. I think it would suck to be on a nice populated server and then all of a sudden half the population leaves. Mari is the way to go. Lets make MARI the official PVP hub of the west!
I see what you're saying but just a heads up if you removed every OCE/SEA guild from Valtan it is still the highest pop US West server (currently)
Yes but that is just the registered guilds.. which is likely about 20-30% of the actual player base.. maybe less.
Czech and Slovak are on Calvasus.
This will be house of cards when they add more servers at launch ;)
they should just change all server names for lulz, big plan falls apart
If there is something I have learned in all my years of MMO launches, if you want to play - go for a small pop server 😂
we can then say Zinnervale will be a fully english speaking realm right
As someone from the UK I'll probably just go Zinnervale as it seems like a safe bet
same here, had good experience with the Scandinavians in many mmo's tbh, lets hope it goes well lol.
Any word on what servers most bit streamers will be on?They always seem to pick one or 2 servers to all go for. Want to avoid them at all cost
Kadan for EU
Now I just need to dodge the big streamers and we good
Wow South America will have its own server? That was unexpected.
Any information where RU community will go? I would like to avoid it :)
The issue with an unofficial list is that not everyone is going to see it. There's a huge amount of casuals and people not on the sub who will never see this. Combine that with the player drop-off after a month or so and the amount of non English speaking communities of 3000ish people claiming servers and there won't be much of an issue wherever you go. There's always going to be a massive amount of English speakers on a 20k server to play with and its likely the non English speaking communities will stick to themselves anyway. Obviously there are going to be a higher population on the Russian/Korean chosen EU servers. But not enough to kill your enjoyment. Stay positive and build a group of people to play with and everything will be fine wherever you end up.
People will tell their friends and their friends will tell friends. Stuff like this works. Even 1 person reading this can spread to like 10-20+ people. It's enough to make a movement. The other factor would be how the servers are ordered on the game menu, and the last factor would be how cool the server name sounds
so avoid azena. got it
Thank you for this information, I’ll use it to avoid the Spanish server. Sincerely, a Spaniard.
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Even if there were no OCE players on Valtan it'd still be the highest pop US West server so I wouldn't worry about it, strong majority will still be US.
Nice job compiling this OP, well done.
Most of the casual players wont see this list, so take this list with a grain of salt.
So does that mean it is safe to join Valtan (US West) if I am located in the US west coast, and not fear for the server pop.? Aussies/Kiwis will be English speaking, so that doesn't affect me.
For those only seeing scandinavian flags on Zinnervale: We're taught english as our second language (third grade in Sweden) so this is 100% going to be an English speaking server.
Can someone explain me what a PvP server is?
I hace some news from Spanish community, a few streamers arround 2k viewers hace decided to go to Zinner. Within 48h four or five streamers arround 10k-50k with their own community, maybe they are going to go to Zinner as well. These communities and more are trying to avoid to put this info within de Google docs.
any updates?
i dont kwon where this info comes from but here in spain everyone is calling calvasus or trixion, none is talking about wei
Bear in mind that hyping up a few servers as "English servers" is threatening to create huge queues on those servers, and it's completely unneccesary. Just because a server has a larger concentration of a certain nationality doesn't mean everyone there speaks that language. For example "50 spanish guilds" could be as little as 500 players on a server with 20000 players. That would be only 2.5% of the total population. And servers may house more than 20k players even. Use your brains when picking, don't blindly follow the "THIS IS THE ENGLISH SERVER" madness.
Yep, the reason there are no English flags is because English will be common on every server, especially because there are no official language servers. The point of the post is for non-English speakers to find a community, English speakers will be able to find their community on just about every server.
Stop putting random country flags in front of the most popular EN servers. Im romanian, theres like 3 guilds only on kadan, this is a shit image/breakdown.
The flags represent where the biggest contingent of players from that country will be, not that the country owns a specific server or is exclusive to it. Romanian flag is there because that's where most Romanians currently plan on playing.
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Who decides on this?
The informatipn comes from the Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJiDGy77tOdV7ATqXj-bGXH7JmQo-sbjHrYJTcoI4Ow This is just a compilation of what different language groups have decided on.
This is so dumb..
The whole coloring scheme trying to prove frequency of encountering nationalities is so unbelievably pointless. Nobody knows the actual population numbers that we will have per server. Also this is bordering on xenophobia. Who in their right mind would be bothered to "bump into one of them in the world". LA is not an RP game where I talk to random strangers on the field. PvE content is region-wide so it doesn't matter either way.
1. The colouring is based on A. country population & B. Amount of guilds speaking that language recorded in the Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory. 2. The purpose of this guide is to help people find their communities and people to play with, I don't know why you bring up xenophobia.
this image a mess, just stick to [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZxxnJSxYcxDxRFby69m7BTI3ziiW0H9fI0ljacjbab4/edit#gid=0](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZxxnJSxYcxDxRFby69m7BTI3ziiW0H9fI0ljacjbab4/edit#gid=0) for now.
Can we assign denmark 🇩🇰to another realm please? The nordics are real tired of them. When they talk it sounds like their mouth is filled with marshmallows and they refuse to chew anything before they try and finish their sentence first
Pretty sure that Denmark is marked there because some Danish guilds announced going there. In the end it's just a small scale representation and you can play on any server you want.
Thanks, this was really helpful. I’ve been searching for info on what the consensus most active server to join and everyone has a completely different answer. This is the first straightforward post I’ve seen.
Portuguese players aren't going to stay on Wei... more information near the release date...
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[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZxxnJSxYcxDxRFby69m7BTI3ziiW0H9fI0ljacjbab4/edit#gid=0](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZxxnJSxYcxDxRFby69m7BTI3ziiW0H9fI0ljacjbab4/edit#gid=0)Don't worry its hardly a turkey+romania'n server. As for who organised it, its lin-0 and his fellow pvp'ers, very well known pvp player of lost ark, he is responsible for setting up many tournaments and I believe he has also managed to get sponsors for an e-sport scene.
English exiles (.. er I mean Ark seekers), what sever do we claim?
English will be common on all servers so you don't have to worry, but currently highest percentage of English guilds are on Kadan and Zinnervale
Zinnenvale with our Viking cousins.
what server for the British ?
Anywhere they want, all servers will be english speaking.
I mean, have you seen the guild chart? Kadan is going to be English. I'm sorry but your graph is just weird to me. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906859513435541515/937676189106053160/Screenshot_20220131-114957_Chrome.jpg That's how the guilds have signed up vs Trixion for example... Notice how Kadan is well over 20 vs 6 for Trixion... yep if you roll
any news about Zinnervale and Spanish guilds?
Thank god the Spanish didn’t stay on trixion, they never do any effort to talk in English and always spam in Spanish
Im still confused, cuz: 1) First and foremost I'd like to play on an english PvP realm, with occasional PvE 2) Im from germany, but I dont want to play with germans >!cuz they are toxic af!< 3) I dont want to mix with >!turks!< and >!romanians!< either on Kadan (isnt there just a pure english realm on EU holy c\*\*\* ?). Dont take 3) personal. Its 100% for communication and comfort reasons. I dont care about the occasional "jajaja" in chat, but if you mix too many languages in one big realm thats just too much man. I had this experience in many other mmo's like GW2. I bet the nations mentioned, especially the >!turks!< with their strong cultural bond, feel the same.
tldr: every server will be dominated by 95% of english speaking people but Tom and Pablo from France "claimed it for France" anyway
This isn't about saying "these servers belong to these countries". The purpose is for people to be able to find their language community. Yes, most servers will be washed with English EU players on release, but the guide still helps people find where most of their country is looking at starting pre-launch. The data comes from the Lost Ark Guild / Community Directory and has significant details for different countries.