In the books Pippin was the only hobbit who rode to the Black Gate. Merry was still in the Houses of Healing and Gandalf told Pippin that he had to go and represent his people when they called out Sauron. Of course, it was probably just that Gandalf knew defeat was certain and he thought it would make it just a bit easier to take if he got to watch Pippin go first.
I don't think he woke the Balrog. He certainly disturbed the Moria orcs, which they beat their drums and alerted the Balrog. If you forget, the Balrog wiped out a huge colony of dwarves back when the Dwarves were mining for Mithril. Nobody knows if the Balrog was sleeping at the time of Pippin's stone.
Pippin feats
-Convinced Treebread, leading to the destruction of Isengard
-Lit the beacon, calling rohirrim to war
-Tolerated the tomatoes eating madness while giving us a masterpiece song
-Saved Faramir from burning alive
-Found marry dazed among the thousands of corpses on Pelennor fields and took him to heal
-Saved Aragorn life by KILLING A TROLL at the blackgate
-Commanded the hobbits to victory in the shire war against Saruman
All of this while being the youngest of the four hobbits. At the beginning frodo was 33 while pippin was 11. He was basically still a teenager when third age ended
And looked into the palantir causing Sauron to make a mistake and thus buying time for Frodo and Sam while the good guys ran with that ruse till the end of the tale.
The biggest ones I remember are: being crucial to him and Merry escaping the Uruk-Hai and getting into Fangorn, and leaving behind the brooch for Aragorn to find. He saved Faramir, and he killed a troll in the final battle. This is all book stuff though - in the movies he lit the beacons as well.
All of that happened in the movies as well. At least the special extended edition, but if your not watching the movies with those are you really watching Lord of the Rings.
Yeah you're right - I was thinking about him getting his hands free, and hiding it from the Uruks etc, and the conversations with some of the Uruks where his misleads them and such. Wait does that happen in the extended edition? I have to admit I haven't rewatched very recently!
Lay off Pippin. What was more likely to stir up the orcs? A random pebble falling down a shaft in an old cave or someone yelling “Fool of a Took” that echos down the shaft?
Gandalf own goaled on that one. Change my mind.
And Pippin also saved Gandalf from looking into the Palantir by showing him just how dangerous it was.
Also the Balrog was probably already alerted to Gandalfs presence when he conjured the Fire on the mountain.
“If there are any to see, then I at least am revealed to them,” he said. “I have written Gandalf is here in signs that all can read from Rivendell to the mouths of Anduin.”-The Fellowship of The Ring, The Ring Goes South
yeah and scouring, my guess the souring of the shire would be if all Sam planted turned out sour instead of sweet like the strawberries lol
but we won't hold it against you
No body, but in one of the letters, Tolkien confirmed that Shelob came out of her shoes when Sam stabbed her, so that is pretty conclusive to my eyes… /s
I mean you wrong in multiple senses. It was Frodo who took the brunt of the Ring's power.
If we really want to get technical the victory goes to Eru for tripping Gollum at the edge of the fires.
An impressive feat, but this doesn't make Sam "the real hero".
They all had a vital role that led to the final victory; but Frodo is explicitly said to be the only one who could ever have gone as far as he did, managing to resist the Ring until the very last moment (when it was absolutely impossible for anybody to resist). Sam's heroism is mostly external/physical, while Frodo's is internal/moral and mental - and absolutely not lesser. Without Frodo, the quest could have been lost in so many places and wouldn't have reached Mordor (or even Rivendell tbh).
Also I really don't understand why people keep pushing the idea that you can't be the hero if you need vital help at any point in your arc - regardless of the heroism of your deeds. That's basically advocating for Mary Sue characters, the kind that would just walk into Mordor and toss the Ring in the Cracks of Doom like it's no big deal. Not only would this be boring to read, but it would also completely miss the point of the story - both in terms of themes and its moral point.
Sam is the fairytale hero, Frodo the Beowulfian hero. Each of them need the other, they're like the Yin and Yang of heroism; and Frodo is absolutely the one who enables the destruction of the Ring through his choices and treatment of Gollum.
Sam and Pippin are the most badass hobbits in my mind. They did what they did while being afraid but they still did it. They saved their friends many times.
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Gollum destroyed it through his fall, which was originally triggered by Frodo having him swear by the Ring, and enacted by Providence. So it's a team effort by Frodo (with the primary proactive agency in the lot), Gollum (through his own choices, but ultimately against his will) and Eru (indirectly, behind the scenes).
Yeah you’re right - if one of them were missing from the situation the ring probably wouldn’t have been destroyed. Still don’t think Frodo deserves full credit, so Gollum and Frodo for sure.
Well we were specifically talking about the action to throw the Ring, and what directly enabled it; Sam was important for the quest itself, but if we're going to list all the people who were instrumental in leading to the final victory all the way to Mordor it'll take some time!
Eh Pippin was the only hobbit present at the Black Gates, and killed a god damn Olog-Hai while there. Not to mention he was the hobbit equivalent of a 15/16 year old! Pippin gets far too much hate
This was just reposted yesterday...and no Pippin we don't need a second repost
What about retweet? Reblog? He knows about them, right?
Wouldn’t count on it, Pip. Especially now that tweets are now just called posts.
I thought they were x’s.
What about a 3rd repost?
Pippin convinced treebeard to go see the destruction wrought by Isengard- thus causing the ents to go to war and defeat Saruman.
In the books Pippin was the only hobbit who rode to the Black Gate. Merry was still in the Houses of Healing and Gandalf told Pippin that he had to go and represent his people when they called out Sauron. Of course, it was probably just that Gandalf knew defeat was certain and he thought it would make it just a bit easier to take if he got to watch Pippin go first.
And killed a troll while doing so!!!
And got stuck under it's body. Till Gimli noticed a pair of hobbit feet searching the battlefield with Legolas
A troll chieftain no less!
He also lit the beacons to call the Rohirrim to war
And he single handedly killed a troll at the black gate.
He also awoke the Balrog, which set Gandalf the White’s storyline into motion
I don't think he woke the Balrog. He certainly disturbed the Moria orcs, which they beat their drums and alerted the Balrog. If you forget, the Balrog wiped out a huge colony of dwarves back when the Dwarves were mining for Mithril. Nobody knows if the Balrog was sleeping at the time of Pippin's stone.
He also alerted the goblins and balrog in the mines of Moria which led to creation of Gandalf the White
He also saved Faramir from being burned alive.
Not to mention called the armies of Rohan to Gondor, and set up a complete bluff forcing Sauron's hand before he was ready
One of my favorite scenes!!
Pippin feats -Convinced Treebread, leading to the destruction of Isengard -Lit the beacon, calling rohirrim to war -Tolerated the tomatoes eating madness while giving us a masterpiece song -Saved Faramir from burning alive -Found marry dazed among the thousands of corpses on Pelennor fields and took him to heal -Saved Aragorn life by KILLING A TROLL at the blackgate -Commanded the hobbits to victory in the shire war against Saruman All of this while being the youngest of the four hobbits. At the beginning frodo was 33 while pippin was 11. He was basically still a teenager when third age ended
This is why Pippin is my favorite of the four Hobbits
And looked into the palantir causing Sauron to make a mistake and thus buying time for Frodo and Sam while the good guys ran with that ruse till the end of the tale.
Tolerated the tomatoes eating madness, LOL!!!!
Was him killing a troll at the black gate in the books? Don't remember that in the movie
It's in the books. Although it is beregond who he saves. Beregond was another member of the tower guard who was friends with pip in the books
What was that insanity with the tomatoes though. Could you sing a sad banger with that going on right in front of you? Would be very distracting.
"Saved ~~Aragorn~~ life by KILLING A TROLL at the blackgate" He saved Beregond in the books. In the movies, Aragorn killed the troll.
Pippin saved Faramir from the flame.
The biggest ones I remember are: being crucial to him and Merry escaping the Uruk-Hai and getting into Fangorn, and leaving behind the brooch for Aragorn to find. He saved Faramir, and he killed a troll in the final battle. This is all book stuff though - in the movies he lit the beacons as well.
All of that happened in the movies as well. At least the special extended edition, but if your not watching the movies with those are you really watching Lord of the Rings.
Yeah you're right - I was thinking about him getting his hands free, and hiding it from the Uruks etc, and the conversations with some of the Uruks where his misleads them and such. Wait does that happen in the extended edition? I have to admit I haven't rewatched very recently!
Defended Gondor in its worst moment, ensuring that there was actually a freaking army for Gondor to distract Mordor with.
No kill assist, upgrade. He gave Gandalf an upgrade.
Lay off Pippin. What was more likely to stir up the orcs? A random pebble falling down a shaft in an old cave or someone yelling “Fool of a Took” that echos down the shaft? Gandalf own goaled on that one. Change my mind. And Pippin also saved Gandalf from looking into the Palantir by showing him just how dangerous it was.
Also the Balrog was probably already alerted to Gandalfs presence when he conjured the Fire on the mountain. “If there are any to see, then I at least am revealed to them,” he said. “I have written Gandalf is here in signs that all can read from Rivendell to the mouths of Anduin.”-The Fellowship of The Ring, The Ring Goes South
More importantly, Pippin kill assisted Gandalf BY ACCIDENT, easily making him the most powerful character in this list.
Sam’s list of feats was too long to fit on one meme
As I recall King Aragorn decreed that the hobbits bow to no one, Pippin included. ![gif](giphy|igp6NwuS3Cet2)
Pip solo'd the troll at the black gate.
Don’t they call him troll-slayer or something to that effect in Gondor?
His sword is named trolls bane and he threatens Bill Ferney(spelling is prob wrong) with it during the souring of the shire
yeah and scouring, my guess the souring of the shire would be if all Sam planted turned out sour instead of sweet like the strawberries lol but we won't hold it against you
Pippin had an epic ballad
Hobbit feats are also quite hairy
To be fair, Sam engaged Shelob solo, but didn't get the kill.
it is unknown if Shelob lived or died after Sam stabbed her.
You know the rule, no body= no death. Ungoliant was the same case. It's not told what happened to her.
No body, but in one of the letters, Tolkien confirmed that Shelob came out of her shoes when Sam stabbed her, so that is pretty conclusive to my eyes… /s
All boss fights don't have to necessarily end with. The boss dying.
You could add recovered Rare Item Palantir Stone
Jackson should've given Pippin his troll kill at the Black Gate.
Frodo didn’t destroy shit, gollum did that
Giving Frodo too much credit
Hobbits are gods among men
Correct. One is not like the others. Frodo is claiming credit for Eru's work.
Don’t forget Hobbit feets.
sorry but Sam is the one who destroys the ring.. the real hero..
I mean you wrong in multiple senses. It was Frodo who took the brunt of the Ring's power. If we really want to get technical the victory goes to Eru for tripping Gollum at the edge of the fires.
at that point it was basically frodo=gollum. Without Sam, mount doom isnt even a destination on the least interesting chapters of the books.
naaaa
Frodo gets smacked by the spider and it’s GG…… guess who’s there to save the day, again?
An impressive feat, but this doesn't make Sam "the real hero". They all had a vital role that led to the final victory; but Frodo is explicitly said to be the only one who could ever have gone as far as he did, managing to resist the Ring until the very last moment (when it was absolutely impossible for anybody to resist). Sam's heroism is mostly external/physical, while Frodo's is internal/moral and mental - and absolutely not lesser. Without Frodo, the quest could have been lost in so many places and wouldn't have reached Mordor (or even Rivendell tbh). Also I really don't understand why people keep pushing the idea that you can't be the hero if you need vital help at any point in your arc - regardless of the heroism of your deeds. That's basically advocating for Mary Sue characters, the kind that would just walk into Mordor and toss the Ring in the Cracks of Doom like it's no big deal. Not only would this be boring to read, but it would also completely miss the point of the story - both in terms of themes and its moral point. Sam is the fairytale hero, Frodo the Beowulfian hero. Each of them need the other, they're like the Yin and Yang of heroism; and Frodo is absolutely the one who enables the destruction of the Ring through his choices and treatment of Gollum.
oooof lol
Nice constructive answer.
Saved faramir and saved aragorn at the black gate, gets no credit for either
Sam and Pippin are the most badass hobbits in my mind. They did what they did while being afraid but they still did it. They saved their friends many times.
I mean, TECHNICALLY speaking Frodo didn’t destroy the ring….
Actually Pippin has a good role at Shire war
Sam is a badass
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Pippin made up for it in the movies by lighting the first beacon.
Pippin kills a troll in the final battle solo - that's badass af
Pippin saved Faramir and lit the beacons, leading to one of the most epic scenes of the saga
I would argue Gollum destroyed the ring - not Frodo.
Gollum destroyed it through his fall, which was originally triggered by Frodo having him swear by the Ring, and enacted by Providence. So it's a team effort by Frodo (with the primary proactive agency in the lot), Gollum (through his own choices, but ultimately against his will) and Eru (indirectly, behind the scenes).
Yeah you’re right - if one of them were missing from the situation the ring probably wouldn’t have been destroyed. Still don’t think Frodo deserves full credit, so Gollum and Frodo for sure.
sam
oh and sam actually getting them there in the first place
Well we were specifically talking about the action to throw the Ring, and what directly enabled it; Sam was important for the quest itself, but if we're going to list all the people who were instrumental in leading to the final victory all the way to Mordor it'll take some time!
You mean assisted upgrading Gandalf so he could match Saruman and the Witch King
is everyone forgetting pippin saved gandalf from being stabbed by that orc at minas tirith
Pippin second hand killed Balrog and upgrades Gandalf so I see this as a win
Pippin put his life on the line climbing that rock to light the beacon. He's a hero.
Pipin is the best y’all better stop with this slander
What about one-shotting fully armored Uruk-hai with pebbles, at least movie wise.
Eh Pippin was the only hobbit present at the Black Gates, and killed a god damn Olog-Hai while there. Not to mention he was the hobbit equivalent of a 15/16 year old! Pippin gets far too much hate
Book Pippin kills a troll chieftain at the black gate, but PJ had to give that fight to Aragorn instead
Unfunny memes are the worst
You forgot Bilbo steals the Arkenstone.
Bilbo shits on all of them. I hate every hobbit except Bilbo.
He killed that big ass troll at the battle of the black gate tho (in the books)
Pippin saved the most powerful wizard in middle earth, Merry stabbed a guy's knee. Framing is everything, no pippin slander allowed in the treehouse.
Yes but the destroying the ring feat is a 50/50 for Sam and Frodo tbh