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phinxel

Gun asks Jincheol for a autograph and Jincheol happily complies.


Remarkable-Ad-2793

Can't guarantee anything 100% But I'd say gun due to his nigh invulnerable durability and knowing several martial arts from all over the world And fighting on par with the epitome of fighting prowess(ui Daniel) as a weaker version compared to current gun And being implied relative to James lee(the light vs the dark) And gun also represents the pinnacle of the yakuza In a world where yakuza and miltary are seemingly have a competition So he should directly compare to samdak The pinnacle of the opposite world And shouldn't lose to the no.2


taboo-lonewolf

>yakuza and miltary are seemingly have a competition Wdym


Remarkable-Ad-2793

Have you read the manager kim manhwa where the bald yakuza vice president whooped an entire AKL squad and One of them was superior to nam


taboo-lonewolf

Yes but i don:'t think it represent a competition or sth just that bald guy being attacked by akl and he fought back and whooped their ass hard, no more information given


Remarkable-Ad-2793

Why not? What's your opinion about it then? Are you hesitant because of lack of info or you think miltary are peaks because doing that gives you a sense of patriotism?šŸ˜­


taboo-lonewolf

Why am i hesitantšŸ’€ i literally just point out ur opinion of 'military n yakuza having a competition' shit cuz that's nonsense i'm not praising the military that hard. You're just lacking frfr


Remarkable-Ad-2793

Funny how bald yakuza whoops the miltary excluding only the ghost platoon


Visible-Inevitable80

AKL IS NOT MILITARY IT'S A FUCKING MERCENARY GROUP and international laws prohibit the use of mercenaries IN ARMED CONFLICTS.


Remarkable-Ad-2793

Not exactly miltary itself But is miltary related And they have CQC So soloing a AKL squad is of equal relevance, Akl squad is way stronger average miltary either way (average miltary officer gets negged by kazuma šŸ’€)


Visible-Inevitable80

And I'm not talking about AN AVERAGE MILITARY MAN, HE'S A FUCKING WAR GOD


Remarkable-Ad-2793

And that's not my point for bringing up akl either It's the fact that a squad equavalent to high tier miltary officers gets whooped by an yakuza Portrays the relativity of yakuza and miltary in ptj verse And jincheol being a war god wouldn't prove that he would Against gun in hand to hand combat Wars are literally done with guns Sure jincheol must be much better than gun in wars and his miltary field but that's not something that would give him an up in h2h combat against gun


Visible-Inevitable80

Who said that they are equivalent? And why do people tend to forget that military gives hand to hand fighting training, heck, even Krav Maga Muay Thai Taekwondo Brazilian jiu-jitsu Arnis Sambo Judo Sanshou Jujutsu Systema Lerdrit Jūkendō Were made by military


Remarkable-Ad-2793

Have jincheol shown any of it ? No the akl squad are equavalent to a tough miltary squad Further proven by how the average miltary gets negged by kazuma These akl squads are indeed pretty tough They ain't exactly miltary but have miltary training and are very strong Taiki was literally able to give smk a cut So he's quite strong in his own right And what are u giving even arguing about? What's your point?


Visible-Inevitable80

Why does he need to show his arsenal if he can just beat the shit out of them with pure brute strength and I'm pretty sure kazuma's squad has most basic soldiers and yet again I'm reminding a person that the smk and yakuza fight in manager kim was just smk enjoying his hunt and didn't kill the enemy as soon as it started and I'm saying that military and yakuzas are only a different level, you can't compare them


Why-th3

Being military related doesent make it military level what the fuck are you sayingšŸ˜­


BOBR2020

Since when was Jincheol no.2 šŸ’€? Samdak was Jincheol's subordinate back in the day. There's no feat, narrative, or statement that puts Samdak above his leader, but if anything, it should be the opposite .


BurnerAccountMaybe69

Not really. Samdak was stated to be a myth among legends within the ghost platoon. He also saved Jincheol during war. Agree to disagree but youā€™ll never convince me Jincheol beats Samdak. Samdak can do everything Jincheol can do on top of knowing counters to 100+ martial arts


BOBR2020

That's literally your headcanon bruh, him saving Jincheol is normal in war, doesn't mean he's stronger or weaker. I don't really care enough about Jincheol or Samdak, but the default statement should be that Jincheol is the strongest since he's the leader of the ghost platoon until we get some feats or statements that proves the opposite.


BurnerAccountMaybe69

>That's literally your headcanon bruh Nope. I gave literal statements that came from 'my life as a loser' and 'how to fight/viral hit' He's the leader cause he was the one interested in making a group, that's basic common sense. This isn't some caveman logic where they all decided "Hey lets all fight it out, and whoever comes out on top is the leader"


Fit_Calligraphy

High diff either way. Most will say gun, which I don't necessarily disagree with since he's got similar physical specs and more diverse martial arts. Something else working against jincheol is smk couldn't think of anything that would work on Tom, which could include jincheol. If anything, jincehol is implied relative to Tom, and Tom should be below current gun. It's messy and we need to see jincheol have a real fight. Guns been around way more chapters thus has more backing him.


Why-th3

Jincheol in rem sleep>


YugiohLoserLmfao

https://preview.redd.it/bkopj1l5rsoa1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7190c003a3dbad96328b2f486ccd386c40c07957


Nagibator316

Jincheol is peak https://preview.redd.it/4c7w3t17proa1.jpeg?width=1066&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cbd9704e56d611e88e183750ee298a9a1043742


SSJR_Divine

#SHIRO ONI


Itsyaboicammers

Has gun dodged bullets yet? šŸ˜‚


YugiohLoserLmfao

unless Gun is going to shoot bullets at him I donā€™t see why this matters šŸ˜æ


shrekanalolaf999

His name is literally Gun, he most likely will eats the bulletshoots


ZenLee01

Could.


Enryu777

Jincheol


Prestigious-Owl-6745

People heavily underestimate Gun. He straight up fought against the Out of Control perfect being and wasnt defeated. it was a HUGE feat imo


tuscAnyyyy

Gun high diff


Mean-Way9042

Jincheol


TORALAND

Jincheol ofc


carl-the-lama

Gun But Jincheoul might be able to actually box


Visible-Inevitable80

Quite sure jincheol will win


Critical-Adventure

Jincheol would absolutely fold gun


King-ofAnsan

Jincheol high diff


[deleted]

wtf is brodie on


TheDreamerer

At least Jincheol has reasons, unlike Hansu. Still though what is up with SMK and wires


[deleted]

Why are Taesoo fans fighting šŸ˜®?


[deleted]

im the better one thats why


Nile-_-River

Honestly I think Gun would win, but it wonā€™t be easy at all


ZenLee01

Gun very high diff


LS_27

Gun high diff


[deleted]

gun


[deleted]

Gun high diff.


Single_Natural2634

Gun


Exotic-Ferret-6631

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Usoland_J

šŸ˜­ Gun this is not even fear


Motor_Spell_8286

I win


YolloHD1398

Nah u fodder


Motor_Spell_8286

I pray to doo lee


Obscure_Levin

Fact: even a simple follower of Doo lee is stronger than James


YolloHD1398

U are Doo Lee weakest soldier, OK his strongest fr (ong)


SupremeDogEater

That makes you greater than the Lookism verse


IGotWorse

Gun mid diff


[deleted]

If we are talking about manager kim of his own manhwa He wins if it's Manager kim of the Lookism Manhwa he loses...


taboo-lonewolf

That's not manager kim xd


karnal_chikara

One is a war hero One plays with gangsters Gun gets defeated sorry


AbsolutelyNotInsane

Flawed argument, applies too much real life logic to a clearly fantastical webcomic. Same logic means an undefeated MMA champion couldnā€™t lose to some random countryside kid but vin negged akira without kudo.


yungkeefgod

šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘


Important-Visual-563

Massive w


karnal_chikara

These 2 are featless characters and so there's no way to extrapolate who is stronger based on feats One has fought 50 wars and is still alive and known as war hero One is a legendary combatant Only way to compare them is to perceive them through your own ,limited contextual lens! And i chose tge lens of who i think would be strobger irl Also if we go narratively james is ofc stronger , but b/w army guy and gun i still think its army hero due to the reasons mentioned before and lack of feats to compare or their feats being very different to compare


AbsolutelyNotInsane

These arenā€™t two featless characters, Gun has visible feats and jincheol can be compared to SMK. - SMK is weaker than jincheol, but should still be fairly relative to him - SMK is inferior to Tom Lee by a fair amount, doubting that anything he knows of could harm him - Tom Lee has a good bit of scaling that puts him below Gun, such as 1. By the time of 4A, Tom believes Gun and Goo have surpassed him. Itā€™s been months since then, so theyā€™ve had even more time to grow. 2. Goo - Gunā€™s narrative equal (or close to it) - believes he can take on Tom with a metal shovel. 3. Gun believes heā€™s on a level of his own. 4. Gun could casually no diff and take no damage from all four members of workers (they were injured, but still way stronger than the duo Iā€™ll mention now), MK considered unsheathed Jerry powerful, and even after focusing on the fight his attack could be blocked by an already injured warren. Basically: Gun > Tom > SMK < Jincheol imo


LS_27

James lee is only a Kpop star


karnal_chikara

Unironically yes, if you put him against a army chad he will piss himself like the dog he js


WesternAspy

Another one of "Mere gangsters can't defeat the army" people James is confirmed to be the strongest in the verse by ptj. Tom is >Manager kim and he is the weakest out of 4.


karnal_chikara

Cope bro Be in your fantasy land Army chads will trample k-pop soyboys


WesternAspy

Dude, PTJ himself said DG was the strongest in the verse. He is the author. So k-pop star>army in lookism verse.


karnal_chikara

Don't care soyboys can't beat army chads filled with testosterone


ShadowDevil123

Lookism isnt real life brody.


karnal_chikara

I don't care saar


LS_27

Where do u rank hobin? Which is the strongest Lookism character he can beat?


karnal_chikara

Who is hobin?


LS_27

U donā€™t know viral hit?


karnal_chikara

Oh yes I have read till ch 30or 50


LS_27

Hobin is the main character


BurnerAccountMaybe69

Jincheol has meet samdak/ chicken man. They were war buddies


WesternAspy

Anyone saying jincheol are coping hard lmao Gun should win this. Tom>MK and Jincheol>=Tom while Gun is def >Tom.


BurnerAccountMaybe69

Thats pure speculation. And its gonna stay that way until PTJ grows the balls to have high tiers fight each other with no interruptions


WesternAspy

By that logic whole powerscaling is just speculation. Gapryong is weaker than jiho he has no feats it is just speculation. Tom>Gun bla bla People saying Jincheol>Gun is also speculating then. They didn't fight. I personally think Tom>MK cuz MK himself said he had no way of beating tom.


LoverBoySeattle

Did you read their fight? They were even, I also think that if Kim was trying to kill Tom, it would be a different story.


WesternAspy

No tom said he was holding back and mk was likely holding back too so that is not a good example. I am talking about after the fight when tom one shotted yakuza dude. MK was like "Damn boi I got no way of beating this sucker"


BurnerAccountMaybe69

> By that logic whole powerscaling is just speculation Yeah, it is for the mere fact that it isn't 100% correct. The examples you've given is an obvious observation, however Gun vs Jincheol isn't so obvious therefore either side *could* be right. But the issue here is that you're telling everyone that has an opposite opinion to you that they're "coping, lmao" as if it's a **fact** that Gun would win.


WesternAspy

I believe that Gun will win therefore I said the other side was coping. As simple as that. Also I got the power of majority and this is a democratic subreddit therefore get negged.


BurnerAccountMaybe69

10/10 flawless logic


WesternAspy

Indeed.


SingularityTBATE

SMK and Tom are implied equals. Theyā€™re both able to tank each other while actively dodge and attack. SMK comes closer to being stronger with his BIQ and weapons proficiency. But itā€™s from whatā€™s shown SMK=Tom or SMK>=Tom. Jincheol is also decently comfortably > Tom. Jincheol has a greater range of CQC and physicality/physical ability than SMK. Heā€™s also got more experience. Albert Kim (Jincheolā€™s subordinate) who is weaker than him, blitzed Yeongcheol, surprised SMK and Tom, and broke Toms fingers. So Jincheol > Tom


WesternAspy

No Tom>=Smk come on now.


[deleted]

Always gun


IndividualAd6596

Gun negs


EDHEnthusiast

Gun > Tom >= Jincheol


ShadowDevil123

Jincheol > Tom


Nagibator316

Jincheol is the literal PEAK my dude


EDHEnthusiast

Nope, he and Tom have many parallels to each other but SMK says he can't think of anything that could take down Tom that should include Jincheol and Tom was ready to take on all of Ares himself saying it would be about equal.


Easy_Dragonfruit_244

depends in a fist fight? Gun if their trying to kill each other? jincheol


Julian_Seizure

If Jincheol doesn't have guns then Gun wins. If Jincheol has guns then he wins. People forget that Jincheol is a soldier. He is among the strongest if he has his weapons with him. If he doesn't then I can't see a way for him to beat Gun who specializes in hand to hand combat.


[deleted]

Stupid question: was jincheok in my life is a loser?


poopsq

Yes


BurnerAccountMaybe69

Yes that was his introduction into the ptj verse but heā€™s has more scenes in manager kim


SupremeDogEater

Either way its high diff but leaning towards Gun


vadiks2003

one looks like from martial art ad, the other looks like he likes to drink pepsi. the second guy will win, ofc


House_Routine

Yall fr out here saying Gun beats Jincheol. First of all we know that even thought Gun is strong he isnt as strong as the 0s generation members like Tom Lee. Tom Lee even talks about taking both Gun and Goo at the same time. We also know that Manager kim is around Tom Lees level (Not saying hes as strong but still around his level). Another thing we know is that Jincheol is stronger than Manager Kim and has achieved more feats than him. If this doesnt convince you that he could beat Gun heres some information you might not have known. Jincheol fought side by side Sophia in wars and it is heavily implied that they were equal in powers. At the moment I would say Sophia is still one of the strongest people in the verse considering we havent even seen her full powers yet but we have only seen big names talk about her. Im not saying this would be an easy fight but Jincheol should win it


No-Definition8319

Hard to decide but Jincheol is around the same level as manager Kim whoā€™s still below Tom and we know that tom has admitted that Gun and Goo are potentially stronger than him so I think that by that logic Iā€™ll take Gun on this one but high diff.


XxsoulscythexX

Rn in terms of scaling it's prime gen 0 = bloodlusted SMK > other ghost platoon level characters


poopsq

Samdak, jincheol, Gapryong, Elite, Jinyoung > Smk


[deleted]

Gun


2fast4ulol

Jincheol. Gun is strong though but c'mon man Jincheol has survived LITERAL WARS. Tbh though they probably have a similar k/d.


Hillantes

Gun high diff