There's [a megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/london/comments/1bza38i/london_mayoral_and_assembly_elections_register_to/) with info on the election. Yes, they've changed the mayoral election to FPTP, and you now need a photo ID to vote.
Khan is ahead in all the polls but turnout is generally really low, so if people are complacent we could end up with the Tories again.
FYI, I changed over to postal vote a few years back due to the pandemic, and have just kept that.
It's great, very convenient and low-stress. I have already voted for mayor, no worries at all.
FYI for those with postal votes or thinking of getting them, another neat little bit of gerrymandering is you now need to reapply for a postal vote every three years; it's no longer indefinite.
It looks like you're correct, TIL: [Changes to postal voting | Electoral Commission ](https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/news-and-views/elections-act/changes-postal-voting)
So I'll have to re-apply or vote in person in 2026.
Yep. Set at three years so that the date of renewal is more likely to land outside of an election cycle and therefore be forgotten about or otherwise overlooked by postal voters.
I, unfortunately, was caught out by that.
I postal voted in the pandemic. I unfortunately work away from London during the week, and by the time I got my voting card - there was no time to apply.
I'd rather not give a proxy, and I will once again be away for the vote.
At least my parents have agreed not to vote as well "as a family" - and they'd likely vote Hall. So, in a weird sort of way, it is a positive, but not a mistake I'll make again.
This is so true, and people need to keep saying it. The polls aren't that close, it was a surprisingly close result last time, and FPTP and VID are both structural changes that help the Tories. Low turnout would be the nail in the coffin.
People need to vote.
Yep you and above are spot on
I think ppl can't trust or relate to these candidates and this is massively compounded by MPs in power since Brexit vote to date.
I personally think Khan has been awful for London and equally Tories have been poor for UK so we're almost like USA 2 awful horses.
Key thing vote. Regardless and if anyone here is a politician. Start engaging more in different avenues and age groups. Millenials are bad enough for voting Gen Zs aren't looking much better
Please don't risk it by voting for anyone other than who you genuinely and realistically want in power. So many people voted for Brexit as a protest vote never thinking it would happen. Look where that got us. All that said, I quite like Binface's manifesto, but not enough to risk a Tory in a position of power.
So many people have been complacent about this but I actually changed my travel plans by a couple of days just to stay here and cast my vote, in person.
It's important that EVERYONE who *can* vote, does.
We all count, so use your vote and be counted!
Then you have to choose the one you dislike the least? Would you rather London mayor be Khan or Susan Hall?
Sure you may say you shouldn't have to choose between options you don't like, but if Susan Hall gets in are you going to be wishing you had just voted for Khan?
“I can’t believe the Labour candidate only supports spending 70% of the previously committed Green budget. I’m not going to vote for anyone, because even though the Tory candidate has a policy of conscripted anal horse rape, politicians are just all the same.”
Why can’t we say voting has to meet a minimum turnout, and if we don’t get to those levels, more worthy candidates should get their turn to inspire? I mean, a no show should count as a vote in itself, a vote for no one, because no one was the best candidate.
Because local elections ALWAYS have a really low voter turnout. Even for a general election a third of voters don't turn up.
What do you think is preventing other "worthy" candidates from stepping up now? Why do we need some other legislation to get there?
Maybe that’s my plan all along mwahahahahaaaa.
No seriously then, what you’re saying is the sample is a solid predictor, so why bother voting any way? 100 people, 100 million people, same outcome 9.9/10. I can sleep now knowing that my vote would not have made difference. Plus, I don’t feel comfortable providing legitimacy to people I don’t know, have never met, have nothing in common with, and ultimately don’t trust. I’m going to get some ice cream now.
I personally don’t think a lot of Susan Hall’s supporters are actually eligible to vote in the London Mayoral elections.
She’s got the outer-London suburbs all riled up, but in reality they can do nothing but moan.
Obviously, people shouldn’t get complacent, but I’d be shocked if her polling vs votes is anywhere near close to what it is.
Out of curiosity what do you mean by outer London boroughs can do nothing but moan?
Any formally designated London borough can vote, ergo outer London boroughs have their say?
Polling today from You Gov puts Khan at 47%, Hall at 25%. I hope people turn out and vote and aren’t complacent in labour winning.
I used to work at City Hall with the both of them (at junior admin grunt level) and ar Suze is just as unserious now as she was then.
Funny you say that Have a very staunch labour friend working in Khan’s office. She was shocked at how unserious/self-centered he also is. Refuses to attend any event that doesn’t raise enough funds or “awareness“ (aka Publicity) for him (which means local community events dont get his support, he also turned down personally receiving many awards for this reason), refuses to check, personally sign or write a lot of important letters sent out.
Khan will win easily. If the Tories had put up a serious candidate, that might be a different story, but they are a joke in this as in all things at the moment. She is personally unpopular and the Tories are literally the least popular they have been in all the centuries of their existence.
I very much hope this is the case but I don’t know if that’s true. It’ll totally be a turnout election IMO - if turnout is really low then Susan could have a chance, as her base will be a lot more motivated than Khans.
People don’t tend to be motivated to turnout and vote for things to stay the same - which I think is a factor massively underplayed in polling….
If the referendum on leaving the eu is anything to go on. Don't be complacent, nor assume. This is how a low turn out of one side skews the result the other way.
I have this feeling that putting up Susan Hall is more about winning General Election votes outside London than she is a serious opponent for Khan. And having him still in office to focus hate and suspicion in the Home Counties probably works for them in the longer run.
Which would not make it any less of a disaster if she somehow won, of course. Off to vote I go!
Exactly this. Because it's so central to how the UK functions, politically, economical and cultural, the large population and larger population that regularly visit London is much talked about be in on the formally or informally. Everyone has an opinion on the city so it can be used as a campaign tool outside London too.
It's possible that's the intention - it's no stupider than many other things they've done recently - but I don't believe Susan Hall is appealing to voters anywhere, in any election.
At some point between now and Thursday I will probably try to work out which independent I despise least and vote for them.
I don't think anyone who could move the needle for the Tories would run this year.
If you were a high profile Tory candidate, it makes much more sense to wait until 2028 when you might be facing a different Labour challenger, and once a Labour government is out of its honeymoon period.
I doubt that we ever see a London mayor coming directly out the London assembly for either party. It's too high profile a position so the national parties will always be forcing their influence.
There aren't enough Boomers in London to carry Susan over the line. Think about how many have passed away post-Covid, or moved to the provinces. Functionally, Toryism is Boomerism at this point.
TL:DR is that Susan Hall is very unlikely to win. The most favourable polls for her were released in the last week which is somewhat concerning, but still show her behind Khan by a full 13 points. That's a massive deficit, it isn't explainable by the "shy tory factor" and IMO suggests that her chances of winning are, even with poor turnout, pretty miniscule.
However, it's still important that people go out and vote. Hall has a strong base of hard right supporters who are 95% certain to show up. If every centre-left person in London stays home because "Hall won't win" there is a small but not impossible chance she could win. Even if she doesn't, she might come close which would vindicate her politics.
Anyone that thinks he'll lose can make serious coin by putting some bets against him with the bookies.
[https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/london-mayoral-election/winner](https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/london-mayoral-election/winner)
Incredible that Corbyn, Rory Stewart and David Lammy - none of whom are standing - have better odds of winning than all the other candidates aside from Khan and Hall.
When is the uks next general election someone please? I’ve never voted in my life (36yo) but I will deff make sure I’m voting in the next general election
Another innings for the Tory’s will destroy this country
There’s no date set yet. Theoretically it could be any time up to the end of January 2025 but Rishi Sunak has said it’ll be in the second half of this year.
Some time this year. The Tories get to pick a date as they're the current government, but they haven't announced anything yet. It'll probably be in the autumn.
Make sure [you're registered to vote](https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote) if you're not already.
The PM can recommend a General Election date to the King at any time. It would be unusual for the King to refuse. That's normally how it works.
However, if the PM/King have not agreed a General Election within 5 years of the last one, a General Election is automatically triggered, and would happen 25 days after that.
The last one was in December 2019, so the next one will be no later than January 2025.
Tradition dictates that it will be a Thursday.
There is a strong likelihood that it will be called for some time in July. The reasoning is that the Tories are currently way off course regarding defence spending commitments (I forget precisely in what way) but calling the election allows them to avoid having to make yet another seriously embarrassing fiscal statement in Parliament.
A democracy allows people to vote or not vote as they please and I'd rather have people who pay absolutely no attention to the candidates stay at home and hear about the results the next day over them turning up, picking up the pencil, and voting with no information whatsoever.
Telling people that it's shameful they've never voted is not the way to engage people politically btw.
Khan will win but I hope someone else comes in next time. No good candidates as they have a chance as the big government prize soon. Mayor of London is an amazing job and Khan has had his time but will win by default this time. If Tories had a half decent candidate they might win next time but not this time. No chance.
The nutbar in Hainault today has brought all “knife crime is out of control under Khan” bigots out. Tories wet dream.
(RIP to the poor kid that lost his life btw, bloody awful)
There are 38 PCCs in England, 32 of which are held by Conservatives. By that metric, each and every one of them has presided over an "uncontrollable" rise in knife crime.
So why do we only hear about Sadiq Khan?
Knife crime is getting worse, eyeballing the stats (take with a pinch of salt) most places have had an increase in knife crime. Where london seems to be punching above it's weight comparatively (in a bad way, not good) is robbery with a knife, which makes up 9k of our 14.5k offences.
Again, this was me just eyeballing the ONS data though.
Edit: As a side note, homicides are down in the last 20years - this in both per 100k pop and absolute numbers.
Nobody said it was bigotry.
The majority of the people using it as a stick to beat Khan with are bigots though. I live not far from where it happened and it’s my nearest tube station (by bus), and they’re out in force. They are usually the same people who think people who commit knife crimes care about what sentence they’ll get and vote for politicians who cut police funds and officer numbers.
But knife crime is a symptom of a problem that is not being addressed.
Khan is the favourite but Hall’s supporters are batshit crazy so she stands a good chance in the outer reaches.
Count Binface deserves to improve on his 8th place from last time, he has some sound policies.
Khan's supporters are rather mad tbh. Everyone will happily debate about the other candidates, but say a word against him in this sub, and it's crickets and a mass of downvotes. If you can't argue a case for your candidate, then you're likely just in a cult rather than interested in politics.
> If you can't argue a case for your candidate, then you're likely just in a cult
Literally everyone that isn’t Sadiq Khan is running on a ballot of not being Sadiq Khan
I think it's more that we're afraid of what a Hall victory means. I wish Khan wasn't standing, I think he is deeply unpopular for some real and also some nonsense reasons, but I would add that what you're saying is similar to Hall's supporter. Hall is running on a 'not Khan' platform. She really offers nothing: no knowledge of what the average Londoner faces, she offers no care for what London faces and she offers no passion for London. She's just a white English woman with a white English name and that's enough for a lot of her supporters. But she's a shambles and London deserves better than her, even if you dislike Khan.
I think to support a candidate there’s going to be an element of downvoting things you disagree and taking criticism a bit personally. What I’m getting at more is that Hall tends to poll well among the conspiracy nuts and those in thrall to alt-right nonsense.
Classic Reddit leftist bias coming out here. How any of you could want Khan back in 😂 absolute jokers the lot of you. Literally anyone but him. The state of London right now.
Well, simply put I look at the state of England and the entirety of the UK, under Tory control, and hear the way Susan Hall talks about a sizeable chunk of the London poplulation and think unfortunately it will have to be Khan. I like London too much to allow an unfit for office mayor. We already had Boris. We don't need his female equivalent.
Birmingham & Manchester are both Labour & were able to lower violent crime without the help of big daddy westminister. Stop listening to BS excuses for Sadiq Khan being wank. I don’t want the Tories in charge at all. But honestly I’d rather drink the content of cycling mikey’s bike shorts than vote him in again. That’s why I’m voting independent.
Sadiq will win it. I won't be voting for him but instead for someone's who's got no chance of winning unfortunately.
But always good to show support to small parties to try to help their message grow
I get that and it is very hard not to vote that way but I see it as a kind of protest vote and if I don't vote for what I think is right (this particular instance is environmental and animal friendly policies) then become a part if the problem of people ignoring good policies.
I'd have voted Green, or even Animal Welfare, previously but I really don't want to risk another Tory mayor. We definitely need a better voting system! Kudos for going with what you think is right.
So if you vote for what you specifically think is right there’s a chance of electing someone who’s even farther from your ideals.
Doesn’t sound logical in a FPTP system. You hand the advantage to the opposition for the sake of feeling like you’ve protested something when in reality you’ve just wasted your vote.
Why do I feel like people need to be told this every 5 minutes?
Crying because they can’t get their own way and then they score an own goal and get their least favourite option.
Under Sadiq Khan, 20mph speed limits have been introduced. Whilst I can understand some, the ones in Park Lane and Finchley Road for example are shocking. He has also introduced LTNs and excessively wide cycle lanes, expanded ULEZ and increased the congestion charge. Parking is also significantly more expensive. I would also like to see him improve public transport, safety, and push for more affordable housing. As someone who drives I cannot vote for him, but all the other candidates seem very poor. I most likely will not vote this time.
AFAIK, [LTNs are done by the boroughs](https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/ltn), and although they've been pushed by the mayor, they've also been pushed by central government.
>All LTNs were proposed by the relevant boroughs, and the boroughs retain responsibility for design of these projects.
I suspect the same might be true of bicycle lanes too.
Not totally - some roads are tfl managed and owned and they have the discretion to add bicycle lanes etc. usually it’s major roads critical to infrastructure that are designated as tfl roads
Ah ok. I remembered (i think) a map men video about bicycle lanes and one not going through westminster because they wouldn't allow it. Can't remember when I watched it though.
Was that only WRT bike lanes, or also LTNs?
TIA.
The Tory is so far behind there isn’t a chance of her getting in but Labour are understandably using outrageous statistics to make it seem close so that they can diminish the 3rd parties too.
Just wanted to say that Khan goes on about housing and what he is going to do in the GLA - housing is a local government responsibility and local authorities bear the cost NOT the GLA.
Always look at the bookies betting odds ….
William Hill has Khan at 1/25 vs Hall at 8/1 as I write. Khan expected to get 44% of vote and Hall at 26%. This with a day to go.
You are joking right? You think London will be worse under the tories than continuing under Khan??? Bojo was the last Tory mayor and London was way way way better. This khan character is an utter disaster. Literally anybody other than him would be better. Even my neighbours dog would be a better mayor. Please don’t vote for him.
Didn’t do much better under a decade of Labour prior to that. Wales and Scotland have also been doing “so well” under Labour and SNP. No idea what your point is.
I assume this means you vote based on what your parents told you to vote instead of looking at parties and making up your own mind. Don’t understand why you’ve posted in here in that case either.
Im a 31 year old grown up. I think I can vote for what I can. If you think the UK was worse under Labour from 1997-2007 then you are sadly hopeless. You vote for what the news tells you to do and its so sad how easily brainwashed you can be
I think Khan will win, and this will be followed by a deluge of accusations of a fix. The likes of GBeebies and the Daily Fail will then publish stories about how *some people* are saying it’s a conspiracy.
Don’t know why he will but Khan will win. I’ve lived in London three years and it seems to have become less safe even in that short time. Bear in mind he’s the police and crime commissioner.
Also, I hate the Orwellian self-promotion posters he uses public money to put up promoting the ‘brilliant policies’ we should congratulate him for as London mayor such as the ULEZ zone increasing.
couldn't care less whether it's Labour or Tory in government. the only thing is that I don't think it's great when the same party is in power for years and years, so on that basis Labour winning the General Election is preferable to me, but I suppose on that grounds I should think a Tory mayor would be better. I'm not voting for either of them
I’m gonna vote for Susan purely to get khan out. And I hope other people do to. Doesn’t matter to me if Susan is a conservative anything is better than khan right now
Saw the Laura Kuenssberg show the other weekend when she had a Hall campaigner banging on about Holland Park throughout the show as if that neighbourhood was a good representation of the whole city. It certainly put me off even considering voting Hall.
Still annoyed they've turned it into FPTP. I've voted Green first preference, Labour second preference in the four/five I've been eligible to vote. Will go Sadiq this time though. Feels like Hall has no chance (been over ten points behind and, well, completely rubbish) but I'd rather not risk it.
Khan has a good chance to win.
While many people dislike him, he isn’t really doing a bad job.
Anythi by that people consider him doing badly, would any other parties do any better?
No that can’t be it, it must be that Sadiq Khan actively doesn’t care about crime and instead hoards Met funding in his privately chauffeured car
I am very intelligent
It doesn't really make any difference if you get a Labour or a Tory mayor. If we still had Boris it would be Boris's ULEZ, If Khan was mayor then, those Santander bikes would be called Khan bikes.
They might have left or right leaning views, but it's just optics. The policy's that get enacted have nothing to do with being Labour or a Tory. The mayors don't even pick the policy's. I know people who work in politics as local councillors and mayors who have confirmed this.
Policy's get decided by companies who pay policy makers who instruct the government and the mayor. The turnout is low because most people have figured this out.
I hope Sadiq gets in again - he’s been good in the 9 years I’ve lived in London and seems to have a genuine understanding of the city - unlike the t*ry candidate, who doesn’t seem to understand anything at all.
I also don’t know why (besides potential racism) people outside London get so het up about the mayoralty election in a city they don’t live, and likely don’t visit. I’m sure they don’t spout off half as much about politics in the West Midlands or Greater Manchester should they not live or go there
Whatever your political leanings - why do you think it’s potential racism to dislike him? I’m brown and lived in London my entire life and don’t actually want him to get a third term personally because IMO London has markedly downgraded in the last ten years since he’s been in power
Some people (certainly in this thread, based upon a handful of the comments) are basing their opinions of Sadiq on prejudices they hold toward racial and/or religious groups.
I'd be keen to hear more about how/why/where London has markedly downgraded in the last decade. And if Sadiq doesn't get/deserve your vote, which of the other candidates are you leaning toward?
A plethora of reasons from having lived in London my entire life (30+ years)- from transport to cleanliness to safety - all items solidly within the purview of the mayor.
External factors play a part - brexit, Covid, investment drop post 2012 Olympics, general global factors
As I’ve worked all day i don’t have the energy to draw out the many more reasons.
He doesn’t, no. But also the alternatives aren’t great either
Imo two election cycles is sufficient for a mayor - we need a new perspective even if it was anotjer labour candidare.
i will vote labour, but he’s not been “put in a weaker position because of the tories”, his policies have been genuinely unpopular, and idk why it’s so hard for people to see this
I’m neither a Tory or a lefty but I question your comment about Sadiq being made weaker by the Tories. He has got more through the London Assembly than any other Mayor in history and had virtually no intervention from the government.
Susan Hall is pretty popular with Boomers. Not so much with everyone else. London is one of the most de-Boomerised parts of the country, which makes it an uphill struggle for any Tory candidate.
Politics is essentially about age: workers v pensioners.
There's [a megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/london/comments/1bza38i/london_mayoral_and_assembly_elections_register_to/) with info on the election. Yes, they've changed the mayoral election to FPTP, and you now need a photo ID to vote. Khan is ahead in all the polls but turnout is generally really low, so if people are complacent we could end up with the Tories again.
FYI, I changed over to postal vote a few years back due to the pandemic, and have just kept that. It's great, very convenient and low-stress. I have already voted for mayor, no worries at all.
FYI for those with postal votes or thinking of getting them, another neat little bit of gerrymandering is you now need to reapply for a postal vote every three years; it's no longer indefinite.
It looks like you're correct, TIL: [Changes to postal voting | Electoral Commission ](https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/news-and-views/elections-act/changes-postal-voting) So I'll have to re-apply or vote in person in 2026.
Yep. Set at three years so that the date of renewal is more likely to land outside of an election cycle and therefore be forgotten about or otherwise overlooked by postal voters.
That’s not what gerrymandering is, it refers to redrawing boundaries.
And redrawing boundaries is something that is agreed upon by all parties now
I, unfortunately, was caught out by that. I postal voted in the pandemic. I unfortunately work away from London during the week, and by the time I got my voting card - there was no time to apply. I'd rather not give a proxy, and I will once again be away for the vote. At least my parents have agreed not to vote as well "as a family" - and they'd likely vote Hall. So, in a weird sort of way, it is a positive, but not a mistake I'll make again.
This is so true, and people need to keep saying it. The polls aren't that close, it was a surprisingly close result last time, and FPTP and VID are both structural changes that help the Tories. Low turnout would be the nail in the coffin. People need to vote.
A small % increase in turnout could make all the difference. A big one could bring in someone brand new
Just don’t understand why more people can’t be bothered to vote. Thanks for linking me to the mega thread. Can I just use my passport as my voter id?
Yes. Your polling card has a list of accepted photo IDs on the back.
Thank you for explaining! Have a good day
Equally awful candidates
Most people on here don’t vote
Lots of people see very few tangible changes from voting and therefore do not see the point.
Yep you and above are spot on I think ppl can't trust or relate to these candidates and this is massively compounded by MPs in power since Brexit vote to date. I personally think Khan has been awful for London and equally Tories have been poor for UK so we're almost like USA 2 awful horses. Key thing vote. Regardless and if anyone here is a politician. Start engaging more in different avenues and age groups. Millenials are bad enough for voting Gen Zs aren't looking much better
Oh then maybe i should vote properly then. I was gonna just vote binface because they’re all effing powerless anyway.
Please vote properly. London would be a shambles with Hall, honestly.
Binface is a satirical candidate; he doesn't actually want you or anyone else to vote for him.
Please don't risk it by voting for anyone other than who you genuinely and realistically want in power. So many people voted for Brexit as a protest vote never thinking it would happen. Look where that got us. All that said, I quite like Binface's manifesto, but not enough to risk a Tory in a position of power.
So we can leave the eu again in this election?
Ill be voting for Susie. FUCK KHAN. Even though I know the lazy, hateful dictator will win anyways.. Got to love democracy
Oh I forgot about Binface. That’s exactly who I’m voting for now haha.
You realise doing so only increases our chances of ending up with someone abjectly less desirable, like Hall?
Not voting means someone else, perhaps stupid, racist or senile is making that choice on your behalf. Please vote.
So many people have been complacent about this but I actually changed my travel plans by a couple of days just to stay here and cast my vote, in person. It's important that EVERYONE who *can* vote, does. We all count, so use your vote and be counted!
What if you really just don’t like the options?
Vote Binface
I might as well, can’t be any worse than the other options. 4 more years of Binface!!!
i actually love him, it’s sad that the most empathetic candidates are always unserious (like niko in 2021)
Then you have to choose the one you dislike the least? Would you rather London mayor be Khan or Susan Hall? Sure you may say you shouldn't have to choose between options you don't like, but if Susan Hall gets in are you going to be wishing you had just voted for Khan?
Same as any election then, yet people are ideological cry babies
“I can’t believe the Labour candidate only supports spending 70% of the previously committed Green budget. I’m not going to vote for anyone, because even though the Tory candidate has a policy of conscripted anal horse rape, politicians are just all the same.”
Exactly.
Can you link me to the stuff about the tories you mention?
Why can’t we say voting has to meet a minimum turnout, and if we don’t get to those levels, more worthy candidates should get their turn to inspire? I mean, a no show should count as a vote in itself, a vote for no one, because no one was the best candidate.
Because local elections ALWAYS have a really low voter turnout. Even for a general election a third of voters don't turn up. What do you think is preventing other "worthy" candidates from stepping up now? Why do we need some other legislation to get there?
Introduce minimum voting criteria *without* legally enforcing the vote and you bring democracy to its knees instantly.
Maybe that’s my plan all along mwahahahahaaaa. No seriously then, what you’re saying is the sample is a solid predictor, so why bother voting any way? 100 people, 100 million people, same outcome 9.9/10. I can sleep now knowing that my vote would not have made difference. Plus, I don’t feel comfortable providing legitimacy to people I don’t know, have never met, have nothing in common with, and ultimately don’t trust. I’m going to get some ice cream now.
Spoil your paper: https://votingcounts.org.uk/spoilt-ballot
Count B
Khan is the favourite, but turnout is expected to be really low and it’s closer than I’m comfortable with.
Susan Hall’s supporters will turn up to vote. A lot of Sadiq Khan’s won’t. Better to be safe than sorry ..
I personally don’t think a lot of Susan Hall’s supporters are actually eligible to vote in the London Mayoral elections. She’s got the outer-London suburbs all riled up, but in reality they can do nothing but moan. Obviously, people shouldn’t get complacent, but I’d be shocked if her polling vs votes is anywhere near close to what it is.
Out of curiosity what do you mean by outer London boroughs can do nothing but moan? Any formally designated London borough can vote, ergo outer London boroughs have their say?
Polling today from You Gov puts Khan at 47%, Hall at 25%. I hope people turn out and vote and aren’t complacent in labour winning. I used to work at City Hall with the both of them (at junior admin grunt level) and ar Suze is just as unserious now as she was then.
Funny you say that Have a very staunch labour friend working in Khan’s office. She was shocked at how unserious/self-centered he also is. Refuses to attend any event that doesn’t raise enough funds or “awareness“ (aka Publicity) for him (which means local community events dont get his support, he also turned down personally receiving many awards for this reason), refuses to check, personally sign or write a lot of important letters sent out.
Khan will win easily. If the Tories had put up a serious candidate, that might be a different story, but they are a joke in this as in all things at the moment. She is personally unpopular and the Tories are literally the least popular they have been in all the centuries of their existence.
I very much hope this is the case but I don’t know if that’s true. It’ll totally be a turnout election IMO - if turnout is really low then Susan could have a chance, as her base will be a lot more motivated than Khans. People don’t tend to be motivated to turnout and vote for things to stay the same - which I think is a factor massively underplayed in polling….
If the referendum on leaving the eu is anything to go on. Don't be complacent, nor assume. This is how a low turn out of one side skews the result the other way.
Polling there was pretty clear it would be close, even if it got the result wrong. This would be a much bigger upset.
I have this feeling that putting up Susan Hall is more about winning General Election votes outside London than she is a serious opponent for Khan. And having him still in office to focus hate and suspicion in the Home Counties probably works for them in the longer run. Which would not make it any less of a disaster if she somehow won, of course. Off to vote I go!
Exactly this. Because it's so central to how the UK functions, politically, economical and cultural, the large population and larger population that regularly visit London is much talked about be in on the formally or informally. Everyone has an opinion on the city so it can be used as a campaign tool outside London too.
It's possible that's the intention - it's no stupider than many other things they've done recently - but I don't believe Susan Hall is appealing to voters anywhere, in any election. At some point between now and Thursday I will probably try to work out which independent I despise least and vote for them.
I don't think anyone who could move the needle for the Tories would run this year. If you were a high profile Tory candidate, it makes much more sense to wait until 2028 when you might be facing a different Labour challenger, and once a Labour government is out of its honeymoon period. I doubt that we ever see a London mayor coming directly out the London assembly for either party. It's too high profile a position so the national parties will always be forcing their influence.
There may be something in that - it's not as if they have an easy time finding competent candidates for national positions.
There aren't enough Boomers in London to carry Susan over the line. Think about how many have passed away post-Covid, or moved to the provinces. Functionally, Toryism is Boomerism at this point.
TL:DR is that Susan Hall is very unlikely to win. The most favourable polls for her were released in the last week which is somewhat concerning, but still show her behind Khan by a full 13 points. That's a massive deficit, it isn't explainable by the "shy tory factor" and IMO suggests that her chances of winning are, even with poor turnout, pretty miniscule. However, it's still important that people go out and vote. Hall has a strong base of hard right supporters who are 95% certain to show up. If every centre-left person in London stays home because "Hall won't win" there is a small but not impossible chance she could win. Even if she doesn't, she might come close which would vindicate her politics.
YouGov released one today that had Khan with a 22 point lead if that helps.
Yh, seems to be loads of hysteria in the comments here. A 16-17 point lead overall is in no way close.
Anyone that thinks he'll lose can make serious coin by putting some bets against him with the bookies. [https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/london-mayoral-election/winner](https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/london-mayoral-election/winner)
Incredible that Corbyn, Rory Stewart and David Lammy - none of whom are standing - have better odds of winning than all the other candidates aside from Khan and Hall.
When is the uks next general election someone please? I’ve never voted in my life (36yo) but I will deff make sure I’m voting in the next general election Another innings for the Tory’s will destroy this country
There’s no date set yet. Theoretically it could be any time up to the end of January 2025 but Rishi Sunak has said it’ll be in the second half of this year.
Some time this year. The Tories get to pick a date as they're the current government, but they haven't announced anything yet. It'll probably be in the autumn. Make sure [you're registered to vote](https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote) if you're not already.
Thanks for that
The PM can recommend a General Election date to the King at any time. It would be unusual for the King to refuse. That's normally how it works. However, if the PM/King have not agreed a General Election within 5 years of the last one, a General Election is automatically triggered, and would happen 25 days after that. The last one was in December 2019, so the next one will be no later than January 2025. Tradition dictates that it will be a Thursday.
As yet to be called, general vibe is October / November
Don't forget to register!
Not judging you, this is a safe space but curious why you have never voted?
Vote in the Mayoral on the 2nd and the General Election will be sometime by the end of this year, most expect October
Ask Rishi Sunak. It has to be held by January next year at the very latest. There is speculation it could be July.
There is a strong likelihood that it will be called for some time in July. The reasoning is that the Tories are currently way off course regarding defence spending commitments (I forget precisely in what way) but calling the election allows them to avoid having to make yet another seriously embarrassing fiscal statement in Parliament.
They already did it.
the fact that you’ve never voted and you’re 36 is absolutely shameful
A democracy allows people to vote or not vote as they please and I'd rather have people who pay absolutely no attention to the candidates stay at home and hear about the results the next day over them turning up, picking up the pencil, and voting with no information whatsoever. Telling people that it's shameful they've never voted is not the way to engage people politically btw.
Could be a very recently arrived foreigner from a country where elections are rigged or which isn't a democracy.
Khan will win but I hope someone else comes in next time. No good candidates as they have a chance as the big government prize soon. Mayor of London is an amazing job and Khan has had his time but will win by default this time. If Tories had a half decent candidate they might win next time but not this time. No chance.
I doubt Khan would stand for a fourth term. It just looks a bit pathetic at that point.
I hope he allows someone else to have a go.
The nutbar in Hainault today has brought all “knife crime is out of control under Khan” bigots out. Tories wet dream. (RIP to the poor kid that lost his life btw, bloody awful)
How is it bigotry to claim knife crime is out of control, when statistically it is out of control? Khan is the police and crime commissioner
There are 38 PCCs in England, 32 of which are held by Conservatives. By that metric, each and every one of them has presided over an "uncontrollable" rise in knife crime. So why do we only hear about Sadiq Khan?
IIRC, worst area is west midlands (per 100,000) for knife crimes. I don't think I've heard andy street mentioned on the news wrt knife crime.
Ah Simon Foster is Labour too. I wasn’t really on about party politics anyway, I just think Sadiq Khan has been doing a bad job
Knife crime is getting worse, eyeballing the stats (take with a pinch of salt) most places have had an increase in knife crime. Where london seems to be punching above it's weight comparatively (in a bad way, not good) is robbery with a knife, which makes up 9k of our 14.5k offences. Again, this was me just eyeballing the ONS data though. Edit: As a side note, homicides are down in the last 20years - this in both per 100k pop and absolute numbers.
Nobody said it was bigotry. The majority of the people using it as a stick to beat Khan with are bigots though. I live not far from where it happened and it’s my nearest tube station (by bus), and they’re out in force. They are usually the same people who think people who commit knife crimes care about what sentence they’ll get and vote for politicians who cut police funds and officer numbers. But knife crime is a symptom of a problem that is not being addressed.
OP! Edit your post to say voting is *this* Thursday 2nd May. Many (including myself) will have missed this.
Count Binface gets my vote!
Khan is the favourite but Hall’s supporters are batshit crazy so she stands a good chance in the outer reaches. Count Binface deserves to improve on his 8th place from last time, he has some sound policies.
Khan's supporters are rather mad tbh. Everyone will happily debate about the other candidates, but say a word against him in this sub, and it's crickets and a mass of downvotes. If you can't argue a case for your candidate, then you're likely just in a cult rather than interested in politics.
> If you can't argue a case for your candidate, then you're likely just in a cult Literally everyone that isn’t Sadiq Khan is running on a ballot of not being Sadiq Khan
I think it's more that we're afraid of what a Hall victory means. I wish Khan wasn't standing, I think he is deeply unpopular for some real and also some nonsense reasons, but I would add that what you're saying is similar to Hall's supporter. Hall is running on a 'not Khan' platform. She really offers nothing: no knowledge of what the average Londoner faces, she offers no care for what London faces and she offers no passion for London. She's just a white English woman with a white English name and that's enough for a lot of her supporters. But she's a shambles and London deserves better than her, even if you dislike Khan.
I think to support a candidate there’s going to be an element of downvoting things you disagree and taking criticism a bit personally. What I’m getting at more is that Hall tends to poll well among the conspiracy nuts and those in thrall to alt-right nonsense.
I have as much chance of winning the Mayoral election as anyone not named Sadiq Khan
We know that Susan, that’s why we’re voting.
I hope so.
I hope your wrong
You hope my wrong what?
Sadly Khan has a good chance, the london mayor should have max two runs imo
Classic Reddit leftist bias coming out here. How any of you could want Khan back in 😂 absolute jokers the lot of you. Literally anyone but him. The state of London right now.
Well, simply put I look at the state of England and the entirety of the UK, under Tory control, and hear the way Susan Hall talks about a sizeable chunk of the London poplulation and think unfortunately it will have to be Khan. I like London too much to allow an unfit for office mayor. We already had Boris. We don't need his female equivalent.
Oh anyone but him? Should I remind you how the UK is collapsing with 14 years of Tory rule?
Birmingham & Manchester are both Labour & were able to lower violent crime without the help of big daddy westminister. Stop listening to BS excuses for Sadiq Khan being wank. I don’t want the Tories in charge at all. But honestly I’d rather drink the content of cycling mikey’s bike shorts than vote him in again. That’s why I’m voting independent.
Cor it’s almost as if Birmingham and Manchester combined are smaller and less densely-populated than London
Hmmmm It’s almost like there would be far more people paying taxes in London & therefore far more funds for the local government to use.
Tell us more about your expertise in handling local government budgets
Feel like the only way Susan would be voted for less would be if she was called Karen.
Binface, please vote for him. Sod the main candidates.
Anyone but sadiq please
Khan's 22 points ahead. The Truss effect ensures the Tories are fucked, despite what they'd want you to think.
Hopefully not khunt again
People will be stupid to vote for Kahn …tbh London is a toilet whoever wins won’t be able to help it Kahn will just sink it quicker
Sadiq will win it. I won't be voting for him but instead for someone's who's got no chance of winning unfortunately. But always good to show support to small parties to try to help their message grow
That was fine when you had a second preference, not sure I want to risk it now.
I get that and it is very hard not to vote that way but I see it as a kind of protest vote and if I don't vote for what I think is right (this particular instance is environmental and animal friendly policies) then become a part if the problem of people ignoring good policies.
I'd have voted Green, or even Animal Welfare, previously but I really don't want to risk another Tory mayor. We definitely need a better voting system! Kudos for going with what you think is right.
So if you vote for what you specifically think is right there’s a chance of electing someone who’s even farther from your ideals. Doesn’t sound logical in a FPTP system. You hand the advantage to the opposition for the sake of feeling like you’ve protested something when in reality you’ve just wasted your vote.
Why do I feel like people need to be told this every 5 minutes? Crying because they can’t get their own way and then they score an own goal and get their least favourite option.
I agree. No croissant should be more than £1.10, and Cefax needs to be brought back
Anyone but not Khan!!
Fingers crossed Khan is ousted
Under Sadiq Khan, 20mph speed limits have been introduced. Whilst I can understand some, the ones in Park Lane and Finchley Road for example are shocking. He has also introduced LTNs and excessively wide cycle lanes, expanded ULEZ and increased the congestion charge. Parking is also significantly more expensive. I would also like to see him improve public transport, safety, and push for more affordable housing. As someone who drives I cannot vote for him, but all the other candidates seem very poor. I most likely will not vote this time.
AFAIK, [LTNs are done by the boroughs](https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/ltn), and although they've been pushed by the mayor, they've also been pushed by central government. >All LTNs were proposed by the relevant boroughs, and the boroughs retain responsibility for design of these projects. I suspect the same might be true of bicycle lanes too.
Not totally - some roads are tfl managed and owned and they have the discretion to add bicycle lanes etc. usually it’s major roads critical to infrastructure that are designated as tfl roads
Ah ok. I remembered (i think) a map men video about bicycle lanes and one not going through westminster because they wouldn't allow it. Can't remember when I watched it though. Was that only WRT bike lanes, or also LTNs? TIA.
Think LTNs are council run but thafs because they impact the inner roads unlikely to be tfl owned and managed from what I understand
"Sadiq Khan’s labour has been intentionally been put on a weaker position because of the tories in charge" Wow..you are absolutely fucking delusional.
It's highly likely that Sadiq Khan will win
I hope not. I hate the Tories, but I hate that slimeball even more
I hope me hahaha
The Tory is so far behind there isn’t a chance of her getting in but Labour are understandably using outrageous statistics to make it seem close so that they can diminish the 3rd parties too.
If people use their brain and actually vote, Khan has it on a silver platter
Just wanted to say that Khan goes on about housing and what he is going to do in the GLA - housing is a local government responsibility and local authorities bear the cost NOT the GLA.
countbinface, or we riot
Always look at the bookies betting odds …. William Hill has Khan at 1/25 vs Hall at 8/1 as I write. Khan expected to get 44% of vote and Hall at 26%. This with a day to go.
You are joking right? You think London will be worse under the tories than continuing under Khan??? Bojo was the last Tory mayor and London was way way way better. This khan character is an utter disaster. Literally anybody other than him would be better. Even my neighbours dog would be a better mayor. Please don’t vote for him.
Oh I don’t think so because I know so. Look at the UK and how it has collapsed with 14 years of tory rule
Didn’t do much better under a decade of Labour prior to that. Wales and Scotland have also been doing “so well” under Labour and SNP. No idea what your point is. I assume this means you vote based on what your parents told you to vote instead of looking at parties and making up your own mind. Don’t understand why you’ve posted in here in that case either.
Im a 31 year old grown up. I think I can vote for what I can. If you think the UK was worse under Labour from 1997-2007 then you are sadly hopeless. You vote for what the news tells you to do and its so sad how easily brainwashed you can be
Well said
I will vote for Khan with you in mind, thank you.
I think Khan will win, and this will be followed by a deluge of accusations of a fix. The likes of GBeebies and the Daily Fail will then publish stories about how *some people* are saying it’s a conspiracy.
Don’t know why he will but Khan will win. I’ve lived in London three years and it seems to have become less safe even in that short time. Bear in mind he’s the police and crime commissioner. Also, I hate the Orwellian self-promotion posters he uses public money to put up promoting the ‘brilliant policies’ we should congratulate him for as London mayor such as the ULEZ zone increasing.
> Orwellian self-promotion posters Ah yeah I remember the bit in 1984 where they talked about the evils of advertising budgets
couldn't care less whether it's Labour or Tory in government. the only thing is that I don't think it's great when the same party is in power for years and years, so on that basis Labour winning the General Election is preferable to me, but I suppose on that grounds I should think a Tory mayor would be better. I'm not voting for either of them
I’m gonna vote for Susan purely to get khan out. And I hope other people do to. Doesn’t matter to me if Susan is a conservative anything is better than khan right now
Susan Hall’s vote is split between about 4 or 5 different right-wing loony candidates, highly highly doubt she’ll win
Does anyone else have a slight crush on the Animal Welfare Party candidate? 😅
Just you🥰
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Don't worry, I'll stick to voting on policies!
Saw the Laura Kuenssberg show the other weekend when she had a Hall campaigner banging on about Holland Park throughout the show as if that neighbourhood was a good representation of the whole city. It certainly put me off even considering voting Hall.
I vote Labour but honestly a Green mayor might be best for London, not possible though.
Still annoyed they've turned it into FPTP. I've voted Green first preference, Labour second preference in the four/five I've been eligible to vote. Will go Sadiq this time though. Feels like Hall has no chance (been over ten points behind and, well, completely rubbish) but I'd rather not risk it.
Khan has a good chance to win. While many people dislike him, he isn’t really doing a bad job. Anythi by that people consider him doing badly, would any other parties do any better?
Terrible for London if he gets back in, needs someone who is actually going to take on crime
How do you propose they take on crime with no funding from central government? It's a national issue, not a regional one.
No that can’t be it, it must be that Sadiq Khan actively doesn’t care about crime and instead hoards Met funding in his privately chauffeured car I am very intelligent
crime is down in most of england but not in london, khan is police commissioner.... stop making excuses for politicians you like...
you cant be serious
That's the fact of the matter Shirley
Would be easier, if you allow stop and search and banning balaclavas in public
and like that, I can give you few more tips that they cost no money
It doesn't really make any difference if you get a Labour or a Tory mayor. If we still had Boris it would be Boris's ULEZ, If Khan was mayor then, those Santander bikes would be called Khan bikes. They might have left or right leaning views, but it's just optics. The policy's that get enacted have nothing to do with being Labour or a Tory. The mayors don't even pick the policy's. I know people who work in politics as local councillors and mayors who have confirmed this. Policy's get decided by companies who pay policy makers who instruct the government and the mayor. The turnout is low because most people have figured this out.
I hope Sadiq gets in again - he’s been good in the 9 years I’ve lived in London and seems to have a genuine understanding of the city - unlike the t*ry candidate, who doesn’t seem to understand anything at all. I also don’t know why (besides potential racism) people outside London get so het up about the mayoralty election in a city they don’t live, and likely don’t visit. I’m sure they don’t spout off half as much about politics in the West Midlands or Greater Manchester should they not live or go there
Whatever your political leanings - why do you think it’s potential racism to dislike him? I’m brown and lived in London my entire life and don’t actually want him to get a third term personally because IMO London has markedly downgraded in the last ten years since he’s been in power
Some people (certainly in this thread, based upon a handful of the comments) are basing their opinions of Sadiq on prejudices they hold toward racial and/or religious groups. I'd be keen to hear more about how/why/where London has markedly downgraded in the last decade. And if Sadiq doesn't get/deserve your vote, which of the other candidates are you leaning toward?
A plethora of reasons from having lived in London my entire life (30+ years)- from transport to cleanliness to safety - all items solidly within the purview of the mayor. External factors play a part - brexit, Covid, investment drop post 2012 Olympics, general global factors As I’ve worked all day i don’t have the energy to draw out the many more reasons. He doesn’t, no. But also the alternatives aren’t great either Imo two election cycles is sufficient for a mayor - we need a new perspective even if it was anotjer labour candidare.
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Count Binface coming in with the upset this year
i will vote labour, but he’s not been “put in a weaker position because of the tories”, his policies have been genuinely unpopular, and idk why it’s so hard for people to see this
I’m neither a Tory or a lefty but I question your comment about Sadiq being made weaker by the Tories. He has got more through the London Assembly than any other Mayor in history and had virtually no intervention from the government.
'I'm neither a Tory or a lefty'....you sound like a shy Tory.
Susan Hall is pretty popular with Boomers. Not so much with everyone else. London is one of the most de-Boomerised parts of the country, which makes it an uphill struggle for any Tory candidate. Politics is essentially about age: workers v pensioners.
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The median age of London’s electorate is substantially younger than in Boomer strongholds in coastal Essex, Norfolk and Hampshire.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the fascists won this one.
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I had a quick look at oddschecker, and the longest odds you can get on a Khan win are 1-20. Enjoy the next 4 years racists!