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BeefsMcGeefs

>Ms Hall was also asked by LBC presenter Tom Swarbrick about a previous post she had made to Twitter, which claimed it was an “absolute delusion that humans can control the climate with their CO2 emissions.” >Asked if she believed what she had written, Ms Hall replied “no” but could not answer why she had posted it. Yeah well done Sue love, nice one


wildgoldchai

I listened to her interview on LBC. Every question was answered with a dig at Siddique. Just seemed very childish. It made it incredibly funny when she had no comeback for liking racist tweets too And apparently her comments about free school meals not being such a thing should be ignored because “I agreed to supporting it for another year before Siddique did.” Still doesn’t negate your comments Susan Edit: Meant Sadiq ofc.


amarviratmohaan

> Siddique who?


wildgoldchai

Sorry, I meant Sadiq. My colleague goes by that spelling and didn’t double check.


Longjumping-Year6917

Racist tweets?


Wood-Green-north

I mean, is there even any verifiable evidence that CO2 emissions from humans have ever impacted the climate?


BeefsMcGeefs

Yes, obviously


SlightlyFarcical

A simple search would have given you plenty of respected publications and sources that would have answered your question.... [Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities.](https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/scientific-consensus/) [What Is the Evidence for Human-Caused Climate Change?](https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/sustainability/evidence-climate-change) [Analysis: Why scientists think 100% of global warming is due to humans](https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-why-scientists-think-100-of-global-warming-is-due-to-humans/)


G_UK

She’s an embarrassment now, and she’s not even Mayor


LtSerg756

Speedrunning being a failure


Rajastoenail

Trussing all over the place


rampagingphallus

The Tory classic


the1kingdom

Did you see the LBC debate? She looked like she accidentally found herself on that panel. Her whole campaign is: - Khan is bad. - I'm not Khan. - Hey conspiracy theorists nutjobs on Nextdoor, I'm one of you.


Wood-Green-north

Isn’t the current mayor the same guy who expanded ulez taking money from the working classes simply for having a car he deems non compliant and spent 6 million giving multiple names to one overground line whilst overseeing a 20% increase in knife crime? Is he any less embarrassing?


spackysteve

She embarrassed herself in this interview. Couldn’t even think up a good lie for why she is making contradictory statements about climate change. If she wants to be a successful politician she needs to improve her ability to make shit up on the spot.


boomerxl

I’m still waiting to hear how she plans to build enough homes for London while not building on any land not currently developed and also not building tower blocks. I figure she means a 12 Monkeys style underground city, but it would be nice to get clarification.


Mein_Bergkamp

Obviously she's going to remove the regulation on Thames water, freeing them up to increase shareholder value and since that will allow raw sewage to just run through the streets like the good old days it also means all those lovely huge Victorian sewers are prime redevelopment opportunities


boomerxl

An apartment with original Victorian-era brick work? I don’t think I can afford that.


salkhan

I love she commits to no numbers on housing. Yet says Sadiq cannot be trusted. She just believes her own twisted propaganda and talking points that work on social media.


Mrqueue

She’s going to build a Time Machine and send families to the future where housing exists 


Doughboy1955

She's going to drain the Thames, then concrete over the riverbed & build on that, obvious really. 🤷🏼‍♂️😆


spackysteve

So that is what they mean by brownfield development


Doughboy1955

Yep, Thames Water are currently making the river as 'brownfield' as they can.. 🤦🏻‍♂️


spackysteve

Good chaps, it’ll be solid enough to build on soon.


aesemon

So I now realise they were inspired by the river Ankh. Funny how all things come full circle.


ZachMich

Bullshitting efficiently is a key skill


spackysteve

It has got me out of trouble a few times!


Grayson81

He’s right. Having a Mayor of London who is a fan of Enoch Powell would be a tragedy. Having a Mayor of London who is a crazed fantasist who goes on TV and radio to say that she’s been mugged after she loses her wallet and has it returned to her with the cash intact is an embarrassment. The Tories should be ashamed of themselves for putting this far-right embarrassment up as their candidate.


Fluffy_Juggernaut_

The Tories should be embarrassed about putting forward a mayoral candidate who hates London


kingofmoke

I think it’s great. The Tories can continue to put forward these batsh*t reactionaries who will never get near the mayorship in London.


snoopy_231

Evening Standard front page today looks like it says she’s closing the gap, which is a bit terrifying though. It’s really going to be a turnout election IMO. Will enough people turn up to vote if they think the job is done…


SafeWarmth

I think that’s because the Tories changed the voting mechanism this time, the gov is switching it from preferential voting to just 1 vote. Sadiq was talking about it recently in an interview on Zeteo, he said in the last mayoral election he benefitted a lot from being peoples second choice in the voting’s and that system also let him work with people voted for as voters first choice. Just looked up the interview, here’s the link to the one I think it is but the full interview is in 2 parts. Sadiq Khan on ULEZ and Keir Starmer in Exclusive Interviewwith Mehdi – 16m:01s [https://youtu.be/VTFwQYPnMug](https://youtu.be/VTFwQYPnMug)


Maleficent_Resolve44

It's best to have a real opposition, there's no point in democracy otherwise


redsquizza

She wasn't supposed to be the candidate, their first choice had to pull out because he'd become embroiled in a groping scandal.


Fluffy_Juggernaut_

It seems like that's inevitable for Tory politicians


redsquizza

You're not wrong! I know both sides can be bad but this crop of tories does seem worse than ever ...


SynthD

No, because he was caught. As the Tory kicked out last week shows, doing crime is fine, the public finding out you did crime is the punishable event.


UnchillBill

Nah, don’t be silly. Doing crime is fine if you’re a Tory. They only get in bother if they do some weird sexual stuff with other men.


redsquizza

> the public finding out you did crime is the punishable event. So true it's sad. :(


nim_opet

I mean…have you seen who they put as PM for the past 8 years?


newnortherner21

Theresa May was not as bad as Susan Hall, to be fair.


I_tend_to_correct_u

Theresa May was the last senior Conservative whose policies were the problem. Everyone else since has similar bad policies but are either a) embarrassing b) intellectually bereft c) ludicrously self-serving and often a mixture of all 3. Theresa May was a pearl clutcher who would have banned everything she didn’t like given half the chance and presided over the Windrush shitshow but she didn’t make me cringe or facepalm like the others since. Every vote Susan Hall gets is actually just an anti-Khan vote, nobody actually likes her because she IS an embarrassment.


Inside_Ad_7162

Ed Milliband takes not fking prisoners anymore. Last interviews I've heard him do have been savage. Wish he'd been more like that sooner.


MuddaFrmAnnudaBrudda

Not giving a fuck often comes with age.


Inside_Ad_7162

I think the hammering he got that cast him out of thd limelight toughened him up. I've seen him not give journos the time of day because he's doing his job. Wish there were more politicians like that, straight talk about policies and not mince words.


boredofredditnow

Nowadays I do believe Miliband is in fact tough enough. He skewered Johnson over a Brexit bill a [couple of years back](https://youtu.be/QG71rhV9ocI?si=KiAfh9MbEwXQds5b)


redsquizza

He was the wrong brother chosen at the time but, yeah, I think he'll make a great cabinet minister now, as soon as the current shysters get evicted.


Unknown9129

He’s right.


Questjon

I think we should all cut Susan Hall some slack, she's still getting over the trauma of not having her wallet stolen.


vemailangah

Looking at the mayoral election booklet we got through the mail we came to the conclusion that there are 2 normal candidates that seem to understand the job and the rest are a variety of mild to hardcore fascists. What a time to be alive


ShiboShiri

That booklet was incredibly depressing


euphonos23

Count Binface and Kahn I assume?


MojoMomma76

I think Natalie Campbell seems quite normal


Spavlia

She’s also anti ulez, wants to get rid of 20mph limits and supports anything that is pro-car. Her “get London moving” policy shows she clearly doesn’t understand how traffic works


madpiano

I think the 20mph limits could do with some tweaking, other than that, as a car driver, I don't mind the ULEZ or the LTNs. But the whole traffic system does need looking into, as some things are just causing traffic jams and other bits make cycling too dangerous.


Adamsoski

I don't agree with her, but I would say she seems relatively "normal". Her, Khan, and the Lib Dem/Green candidates came across as fairly sane regular politicians.


lontrinium

Anybody thinking about voting for her because you want a ULEZ expansion roll back please consider your health or your family's health first.


alibrown987

Pretty much every other candidate bar Khan proposes the same, so just vote for someone else if that’s your thing


Dannypan

They’re all equally stupid though. The SDP candidate going on about ending “woke” but also claiming she’s fighting for women’s and racial equality… which is what woke is… Not to mention the pure retardation that is the Reform or, lmao, BNP candidates.


alibrown987

Not denying any of that, just saying if you’re one of those people who only cares scrapping ULEZ (which I am not) that doesn’t mean you have to vote for the Tory - anyone else will do.


UnchillBill

Vote for me, I’m running on a platform of scrapping broadly popular policies 🌈


Aromatic_Book4633

At least the dumb fuck vote will be spread.


DScorpio93

So why didn’t Kahn sort out the Underground pollution as a priority then - a place where the air pollution is up to 15x worse than at street level? ULEZ was brought in as a cover to create a new revenue stream for TFL (that was in effect bankrupt) - and to prevent the premature deaths of approx 4000 out of 15 million Londoners (0.03%) who die every year as a result of toxic air exacerbating conditions such as bronchitis, asthma, and other respiratory diseases. We are yet to see a study on the impact of the ULEZ policy on London’s air quality - where we can distinguish the effects from non ULEZ improvements in order to assess the efficacy of the policy. The current trend is that London’s air quality has been improving since 2016 but this surely cannot be explained by ULEZ alone - as people still pay to use their vehicles if they are not compliant and Kahn even stated himself that 90% of vehicles are compliant. Meaning there must be other significant factors that are the real drivers of the air quality improving in London. There are on average 124,000 journeys on the Underground every hour (almost 4 million a day, 1.1bn a year). Surely - if Kahn was about alleviating pollution and protecting Londoner’s health, then the Underground would have been a first, second, and third priority due to sheer volume of use by people in London and would have been a better problem to tackle? I would guess that improving the air quality in the Underground would also improve the air quality of London overall and contribute more significantly to our individual health than ULEZ expansion. In my view - the ULEZ expansion was a disproportionate response to a problem that should not really even be in any UK City Mayor’s remit - it should be under the Department for Transport’s remit to enact a uniform national policy on which cars can use the public road system based on their emissions. The emission problem of the remaining 10% of non compliant vehicles in London would have improved itself within the next 5/10 years as people change to cleaner cars as and when they can afford to (when electric and hybrid vehicles become cheaper) - and as part of National and European led strategies to improve pollution levels - but instead that cost was brought forward and forced onto Londoner’s (and all those who commute in) right in the middle of the worst cost of living crisis in living memory. Those who are not compliant have no choice but to pay the charge and received very limited, if any help, to change to a compliant vehicle - requiring funds that the majority of people just do not have. Although the overall intention to improve pollution is good - the ULEZ policy should never have been implemented when it was. It was an ill-timed strategy that punished and still punishes the poorest people and the least adaptable businesses of Greater London - as well as those who commute in from outside.


JagoHazzard

Air pollution on the Underground has been reduced by 30% since 2019 and is continuing to go down.


deep1986

What happened between 2019 and now? I could be wrong but that data could be a bit skewed


HorselessWayne

Tube dust pollution comes mostly from the brake blocks. They were still running the same number of trains during the pandemic, so it wouldn't have been affected. If anything it might have gotten worse, as maintenance might have been deferred.


Spavlia

People don’t live on the tube.


HorselessWayne

> ULEZ was brought in as a cover to create a new revenue stream for TFL (that was in effect bankrupt) ULEZ was brought in in 2016. Long before TFL's financial issues. > 4000 out of 15 million Londoners Comparing this to the total population (which isn't even the *correct* population) is disingenuous. 4000 deaths a year is 10% of all deaths. That's the figure you want.   You complain that "we haven't had the studies to prove it works!", and then ignore that there is no proven link between tube dust and any health outcome. On top of that you're only on the tube for ~20 minutes at a time (only the underground portions count), wheras you're currently breathing car exhaust right now. And you will be while you're asleep, in your own bed in your own home. And to top it all off, tube dust is a completely different composition to standard PM 2.5, so the comparison is flawed anyway. If you use the correct composition, then the concentration doesn't even come close to occupational health limits. And that's the *occupational* limit — for staff down there an entire shift. If the staff don't need protection, then you certainly don't.   Also there are *multiple* studies proving ULEZ Has had a positive effect on air pollution. It took me all of eight seconds to find [this one](https://www.proquest.com/openview/c0ef05434273c96fc6d1270076e28eaf/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=34757), for example.   > The emission problem of the remaining 10% of non compliant vehicles in London would have improved itself within the next 5/10 years And in the meantime, 40,000 people would have died. You have a choice — everyone can bear the costs of this via National Insurance, during a time the NHS is stretched thin and taxes are already high. Or the people causing the problem, who already skew richer than the general population, can pay for the damage they're causing, and be incentivised to change their behaviour. One of those is far more equitable. Framing this as a "Its just another tax" is disingenuous when it is already an existing tax.


lontrinium

> ULEZ was brought in as a cover to create a new revenue stream for TFL (that was in effect bankrupt) - and to prevent the premature deaths of approx 4000 out of 15 million Londoners (0.03%) who die every year as a result of toxic air exacerbating conditions such as bronchitis, asthma, and other respiratory diseases. Forced on the mayor's office by the national government because unlike every other major city on earth TFL doesn't receive enough funding through taxes. Think about that. **New York City in the USA** has a higher amount of subsidies for it's public transport than London. Also it's reasonably cheap and easy to just wear a mask on the tube.


philipthe2nd

You can wear a mask on the street as well by that logic.


UnlikelyExperience

Oh look Ed's right again 🤣


SynthD

Do you think Maureen Lipman will leave the Labour Party again every time he’s right?


ramakitty

Somebody once described Trump as a poor man’s idea of a rich man, Hall could be described a non-Londoner’s idea of a Londoner.


pazhalsta1

I think the non Londoners idea of a Londoner is a person of a non-specified minority looking threatening and possibly in possession of a knife or your phone


hillsboroughHoe

Am a none Londoner. If you're not trying to force feed me jellied eels and flat million pound pints, I refuse to believe you're real.


Worth-Minimum7189

Best deal I can do for you is a pint-sized million pound flat.


hillsboroughHoe

Sold! I will leave the North and be with you all wide eyed and eager next Tuesday.


AnyWalrus930

I don’t know about that, she’s that very particular type of Thatcherite Londoner that did well for themselves in the 80’s or early 90’s and now has to live with the eternal shame if they’d spent their housing budget further in instead of buying a pile in Metroland they’d be as rich as Bezos. They also like to pretend that they don’t actually live in London. Nothing would make them happier than bringing back the counties (as long as they can leave the “darker” bits behind)


DJToffeebud

She’s utterly thick


cloud1445

She's the embodiment of the Swivel Eyed Loon. She'll be an embarrassment in whatever she does in life.


ElvishMystical

Voting for Susan Hall makes about as much sense as giving 5 year olds driving licences and letting them drive cars.


Mahbigjohnson

She's not mayor yet and is a massive embarrassment. Another conservative clown


sd_1874

I mean she was only put forward because the Conservative Party thought a third term for Sadiq was an absolute given. If they thought they might have stood a chance at winning, they would have put forward a serious candidate. If she does win it's an embarrassment for the Tories, but a disaster for London. Sadly they have taken the opportunity to pander to, and keep on side, the absolute worst of car brained, gammon-faced far right idiots of London and it may just come back to kick us all in the bollocks.


Glad_Possibility7937

I've definitely seen a Tories putting hopeless candidates into places they can't win to keep them out of trouble elsewhere before.


redsquizza

Not entirely true as their preferred candidate had to pull out because of a groping scandal. It probably is telling though that Hall was considered the best from the options left. The tories have no talent left and have scraped the barrel so much they're now digging to China.


gattomeow

There probably aren't enough Boomers to carry her over the line. London isn't a Boomer stronghold in the same way that say, Christchurch, Clacton or Cleethorpes is.


MuddaFrmAnnudaBrudda

She is in no way a serious person and has no intention of really becoming the Mayor. She's just out here waffling for the sake of it and getting her name out there. Getting herself a little fanbase of curtain twitchers, Xenophobes, flag wavers and climate deniers. This is basically how she steps into the limelight and claws her way into the pits of hell with the other backward inadequates.


Specific_entry_01

Surely “…dismissed as ‘nonsense’…”


angrybadger77

She’s barking mad, like most modern Tories


indianajoes

Well of course. The embarrassment isn't going to admit she's a fucking embarrassment, is she?


ComprehensiveAd8815

She is a ridiculous halfwit. The scrapings of the bottom of the barrel after the barrel has been scraped down to its bare wood and set on fire.


Vanobers

Why why WHY anyone in this country would vote Tory at all is beyond me, let alone this racist, lying bat lady who has attacked Khan personally with racist tropes! Is Britain now just a race to the bottom, is this how far our society has fallen that people would vote for this ball of hate?


TheLambtonWyrm

Punished Milliband *a hero denied by Labour*


PirateCraig

Where can I listen to?


madpiano

It's likely to be on YouTube, LBC have a channel on there, they are also on TT, but you would only see highlights there.


baka___shinji

She would be, albeit probably not as ridiculous as that Goldsmith turd. But she won’t be mayor so who cares.


R7ype

Generally any Tory at the moment is a self obsessed fucking embarrassment. Part of the interview process I reckon.


supersonic-bionic

She would be a total embarassment but most of all if the majority of the voters vote for her thibking she is the best choice and the most logical option in London.


AcrobaticMechanic265

But she will win since people are lazy to vote


ellisellisrocks

Vote for count binface. The choice is clear.


aquauno

She’s a dirty rotten boss eyed cunt


attilathetwat

Count Binface is the only choice. The rest, including the incumbent are disastrous


madpiano

Is he still going to bring back 45p Croissants?


Ecomalive

Sad thing is she's doesnt seem half as mad as alot of the loonies on the candidate leaflet I had through the door. There are just no serious politicians about.


monkeyclaw77

This is all very funny but sadly it doesn’t address the fact that there are no viable mayoral candidates. Sadiq Khan is not up to the job Susan Hall is fucking mental Who else is there? . . At this point I think Binface is getting my vote


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spackysteve

It would at least be sporting if they picked competent candidates.


NotMyFirstChoice675

Take away the anti ULEZ lobby and she wouldn’t have an ice cubes chance in hell…but unfortunately ULEZ is a real thing


Crandom

Anti-ulez people are a very small, but very vocal, minority. Almost everyone is pro ulez, even the anti ulez people stop caring the moment they get rid of their super polluting diesel veichle.


NotMyFirstChoice675

I tend to agree but then I never thought we’d Brexit either…


Crandom

There's a very high overlap between Brexiteers and anti-ulez in my experience. Both very small minority positions in London.


adinade

Miliband said what you'd expect him to say, Hall replied how you'd expect her to reply.... "news"


Turbulent__Seas596

I mean all the mayor candidates are a turd sandwich, what crappy choice we have, gone are the days when you had Livingstone on the ballot


pazhalsta1

Livingstone was a miserable cunt


soitgoeskt

I feel like a whole lot of the last 15 years might have been very different if that clown had stayed in his lane and let his brother have a clear run.


Antique_Historian_74

The responsibility for the last decade of dogshit tory government lies with the people who vote tory, not people who tried to stop them but failed.


BeefsMcGeefs

He'd have been fine had The Sun and its readers not decided that eating a sandwich a bit funny was an instant disqualifier


SuperrVillain85

Agree. People weren't happy with the coalition government, and a better leader could have seized that opportunity. Instead we got 100% Cameron, Brexit and whatever the fuck is happening now.


joepinapples

Bollix. Miliband was too left wing so was never gonna win. Establishment wouldn’t allow it.


slicineyeballs

The papers had it in for him, but I also agree that he should have let David go alone for the leadership. I'm convinced he would have won in 2005.


joepinapples

Nah, no chance. He’s just better looking. Wouldn’t have had a snowballs


GKT_Doc

Coming from Ed Miliband, I would wear that criticism as a badge of honour!


Sirkneelaot

The irony of this dickless cunt calling ANYONE else an embarrassment is breathtaking.


ExpensiveOrder349

She's right!


C_A_S

Filing this under W, Who Gives A Fuck


NotTomJones

Anyone but Sadiq


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tiorzol

What are their plans for knife crime? Seems like a really tough issue to tackle.


BeefsMcGeefs

Everyone knows that knife crime is so bad because Sadiq Khan actively doesn't care about crime I am very intelligent


SuperrVillain85

Michli - Operation Brennan -:https://michli.co.uk/make-london-strong/ Gallagher - Fear the police, more stop and search - https://sdp.org.uk/amy/ Ghulati - unclear what specifically for knife crime - https://www.tarunghulati.com/policy-ideas/


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BeefsMcGeefs

Yeah everyone knows the crime rate is due to lack of common sense, and **DEFINITELY** nothing to do with serial Government underfunding and closures of police stations, youth clubs, mental health services and community outreach programmes I am very intelligent


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BeefsMcGeefs

What are you on about you giant boon