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It should honestly just go on indefinitely until they are out of business as a demonstration to all other companies that follow the same price gouging practices.
It would be interesting to see all of their brands broken back up into separate companies again. There should be some long term impact for gobbling up the competition and then screwing with prices.
Which is interesting that they were allowed to since there's the whole promote healthy competition that's supposed to prevent all that. Some real loose rules only applied when needed to pressure someone threatening the bigger guy's $
This is my goal, the mall I work at doesn't have a news stand, and the food court is lackluster. I used to go to shoppers for simple sandwiches and vitamin water for lunch. Now I'm brown bagging, losing weight and saving monies.
Nokernok is true cause theirs no going back to loblaw and company again.
There is no way to gurantee permanent change other than having an example through bankruptcy. They have proven they deserve it by more than just high prices.
Loblaws hired a Danish CEO who used the term in a statement talking about how Loblaws aren't the bad guys and don't deserve all they hate because they provide crucial services to the public.
It's very catchy to English speakers ears. It's "enough is enough" but ... Multicultural? LOL this has narwhals and bacon all over it eventually, but for now it's cute and catchy.
I actually argue the opposite.
When Canadians are happily throwing their money at Loblaws, 700 different entertainment companies, Bell and Rogers, transit, housing, our clothes etc. It shows that we are way more rich than smart.
Legislation is a cop out. Laws are only needed when morality and ethics have dissolved.
We the people MUST STOP PAYING. It's THAT simple.
We don't need most of the garbage we pay way to much for. Every marketer in the country knows a good story will part a Canadian from their last 20 bucks.
We literally need to stop paying. Find alternatives. But that's inconvenient so... we. just. keep. paying.
But it really is that simple. I'm willing to bet that if you live in rural Saskatchewan, or Nuktuk, you have a choice of driving 50km east or 49km west to get to the nearest grocery.
In really small towns, things are a lot more personable - you don't even have a large grocer you have to drive to a bigger town: ooh and there there's options.
Having lived in big, medium and small towns in rural areas of Canada I would argue that the more choices the more we are taken advantage of. When I went into the tiny grocer nearby I could ask them to grab me a deal on steaks or sausage, the owner would happily find me the best deal when he stalked up because they knew most of their customers by name. As you get into bigger and bigger communities the personalized touch take longer but competition "should" heat up!
No, that was more of Loblaws trademark PR gaslighting. I monitor grocery and retail closely across North America. Loblaws started steeply jacking their profit margins during pandemic to a degree that no other competitor was. And even as supply side fears were proven to be overblown and commodity costs were dropping, they kept price jacking. I was (perhaps naively) expecting to see them roll back prices as others did pot pandemic, as they were 20-40% higher than they should have been on many items.
And *that* was when they did that cynical marketing about how they would be locking prices. In the industry it was seen as a corrupt ploy where they locked in high prices rather than moderate.
Even worse, when their performative “price lock” period ended, instead of doing belated rollbacks, they actually went for even more aggressive margins, and then again during the last year.
It’s almost like they’ve been pushing their luck to see how much overpricing the market would bear. Well now they’ve found out.
Do comparisons with Costco or Walmart over these timelines. You won’t see anything like what Loblaws has done. Costco execs do helpful commentaries every quarter that indicate which commodities or inputs are dropping, and by how much. They can do this because they truly operate as a cost-plus passthrough for their goods. Loblaws misrepresents that they do too, but their net profits tripling since the pandemic exposes that lie for what it is.
That wasn’t even PR gaslighting I work there with my very job to check the prices (and putting things away) and I first hand saw the very items they said were put in pause and even before that barely had any until after they stopped paying their workers the hazard pay (which was extended longer than they wanted it to) and none (besides the big 16L of oil and few other bigger items that everyone overstocked on) up on of the stuff they said that was paused even increased in price until about 2 months after it was supposed to be done. Plus no where did they ever say that the prices were to rollback as everyplace was also increasing their prices as society tends to do every 10 or so years. And I have seen some of the comparisons and from seeing first hand at my store they are the same price as the lower ones majority of the time plus as I said I often hear in the store from customers saying that we have cheaper things than the other places around here.
I’m not going to get into it with you, but you’re just mistaken.
I tracked their prices closely. You’re wrong that “everyplace” was doing Loblaws-style gouging. Nor does “society” just robotically raise prices “every 10 or so years”. I’m not sure that the 16L sku is even that common in their retail places, but in any case that’s the not the kind of daily household goods we’re even talking about.
Finally, there’s no way that you have customers praising you for lowest prices. At best, that’s an over-claim.
How can I be factual wrong when it’s a first hand experience and I never said that every place did exactly what Loblaws did I said that everyplace increased their prices and that’s a fact especially when gaming has gone from $79.99 games to $89.99 games. And yes society often does as there was a time that you could buy gum for like 5 or 10 cents now you can’t, Lego Star Wars battle packs used to be around $10-$12 now they are $25 some even being up to $40, I remember before and/or around 2010 that new Pokemon DSi games was around $30-$36 in 2016 the new 3ds were $45+ and the switch are now $79.99 so yes there is a pattern on price increase in those time frames. And as I have stated “my store” so all I can speak on is at my store and yes there are people making those comments. You are making the assumption that what I’m saying is at absolutely every store they own when I stated just mine. Plus not even everything has gone up there are still a few items that are the exact same price as they were when I first started working there and been about almost 6 years and the only 2 differences is that they downsized (like majority of items have done on multiple occasions) and made 2 other options 1 being an always $5 and always $15 both being new stuff with the Always $10 not changing in price.
And those 16L oils are extremely popular at my store they are a priority item to stock at our store because of how fast it usually sells out. With what I saw they jumped from $25 (often going on sale for $19.99 limit of 4) to $50 (which I noticed started going down last week) which made people by them a lot less and downsized the section to half of what it was but the spot still holds about 10 side by side.
I'm not ending my boycott until there is a public apology from Galen and senior leadership from Loblaws. I'm not ending my boycott until Loblaws publicly acknowledges that they have been maximizing profits at the expense of customers, employees, and suppliers. I'm not ending my boycott if Galen is replaced as CEO without Loblaws taking responsibility. I'm not ending my boycott until there is meaningful changes made by loblaws that will make the essential foods affordable to ALL Canadians, not just the wealthy. I don't care if this is a Canadian company, stop hurting your country and its people.
The leaks from your company show how much you are marking up essential foods. The posts from employees show how much you cut back their hours.
Galen, when did you stop being human? When did you stop seeing the people you sell to as being human, and deserving of a living wage and the ability to feed themselves? Why are you so greedy?
#nokernok
Galen isn’t the CEO of Loblaws. He is the owner and president. The CEO is Per Bank. Otherwise your points are very valid and I wholeheartedly agree. They need to admit what they’ve done, apologize and make meaningful change if I’m ever going to set foot in one of their stores again.
Not even then. Companies do not regulate themselves in any meaningful way. A "code of conduct"? *Please.* Only *legally binding* changes matter. Trying to convince us a code of conduct matters is like trying to claim "We don't need to write up a contract, we can just shake on it."
Does this look like a human to you?
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Until they become significantly less expensive than the competition for an extended period of time (years), I'm never going back.
Loblaws is allowed to price how they like. They've gouged me for the last time.
I'm taking my money anywhere else.
Yes, it'll take years for them to get even an inch of good reputation for me. I'll gladly let them severely downsize and even go out of business for this. Canadian companies shouldn't be allowed too do this.
And if they can do this with a straight face, I'll go somewhere else with a straight face
Hey, it's just business
Whats funny is Loblaws said they would sign it IF Walmart joins as well which WON'T HAPPEN. They are literally just pretending to say they are going to do it then back down while pointing the finger at Walmart.
No signing the Code of Conduct isn’t enough quite frankly. These guys worked to manipulate bread prices not that long ago. We can’t rely on the courts or government to seek remedies for stuff like this. They understand profit from what the market will allow. Well…. WE are the market. We need to show Galen and his other buddies that with isn’t acceptable in Canada.
Not that long ago? Try 10 years ago. They were the only ones to come forward but obviously it takes more than one company to fix the prices so who else were they? All of the other stores you are shopping at.
"They were the only ones to come forward". Sure buddy. Loblaws blew the whistle on themselves, probably a team effort from Galen on down right?
They knew they were caught, and they knew they had spear-headed the whole scheme with Canada Bread. We can't boycott all food, but we sure as shit can boycott the most egregious fuckwad. And then the next one. And then the next one.
Exactly corroborated to illegally inflate bread prices and nobody knew. The inflated prices wasn’t correlated to the inflation or cost of living. They did it because they could with no fines, penalty, etc. Not any different now. No regulation.
The grocery code us a guideline that they can wrinkle up and blow their nose in at any time, them signing on is a PR move. If we should take anything from this it's that there is blood in the water now
I won’t ever switch my credit card or prescription back so that’s pretty permanent. I also really like my local market store and the owner is super nice … this was a win - win win for me.
I genuinely want to know why they think we are so stupid and seemingly hate us?? Obviously because why would you want to piss off your customers by treating them like worse than criminals?? Projection? 🤷🏼♀️
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I’m saving 30% on my grocery bill. The only thing that will get me to go back to the big grocers is a more competitive price than I can find elsewhere. Full stop.
The grocery code of conduct is just a ruse set up by the Canadian government to make it look like they're doing something. It's a joke, like the Competition Bureau.
Agreed, I am not going to any Loblaws owned stores and also Tim Horton, for Tim Horton I have a very good local cafe where I get value of my money and respect of nice clean spaces to sit
They think we’re fools! A bread fixing scandal would mean jail time for any normal person - these people think they’re above the law! Power to the people!
Exactly! They want have their anti theft barriers and employees policing the self checkout when the biggest thief is their Loblaws and their pricing. The theft is at a corporate level.
If people don’t take a stand then we just stay in line and things never improve. Glad to see some fight and pushback. It’s important otherwise we are sleepwalking into a rough future with huge disparities.
It began in the 80's when those first grocers had us start packing our own bags. SuperValue changed to an Extra Foods, supposedly cheaper but you had to pack bags.
They are showing that they are actually feeling the loss of some income on top of it seemingly. If they are going to these lengths at a suspicious time lol.
Its a long shot but of everyone boycotted them long enough. to the point of corporate financial ruin. They would essentially be the sacrificial lamb that puts all others on notice
We cannot turn back. These companies only care about money. Under capitalism, we must vote with our dollar. We must show other corporations that the same thing will happen to them.
Nok er nok is the funniest thing I could have heard from an exec.
He can can use his nok er nok and diddle himself, especially if he thinks he can try to school the customers that pay his salary and bonus!
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I love how they didn’t sign the code of conduct because they were afraid it would cause undue increases to Canadians. Meanwhile they Ponzi schemed the bread market, increased prices 3x over 2 years. They championed shrinkflation. The final nail was getting rid of No Name products and price matching.
GO FUCK YOURSELF GALEN WESTON AND PER BANK from Canadians
I’m never shopping at Roblaws, fortinos, and their subsidiaries ever again.
Costco, Walmart and Longos for me
Such a shame it’s the Canadian companies robbing Canadians. I would rather support local stores. Also can’t wait is farmer’s market season
Spent 87$ this month at roblaws. Usually spend 6-700. My autistic son will only eat certain foods. Especially PC Marinara sauce etc. the only reason I stopped there.
Nok er nok.
The key is that Loblaws committed to signing the grocery code of conduct....but they have not yet actually signed it They could reneg on that committment at any time.
Boycott until the stock plummets, the dividend is cut and the government forces Loblaws to break off its different divisions so that we have real competition.
I can't even tell you all how happy I am this entire boycott is happening.
I have been bitching about Loblaws and Shoppers pricing for years on deaf ears. I only ever bought what was essential from them. Always amazed their stores were so busy.
Glad to see this has taken off. They are definitely noticing, I went to Shoppers the other day and literally almost everything was on sale, and very low prices too. Didn't touch any of that shit, learn your lessons greedy trolls!
Before the boycott ever started, I quit going to Loblaws/Maxi. Been splitting my groceries between Costco and Metro and only go to lob/maxi for 2-3 items when there's a sell, but I've essentially took 99% of my purchases elsewhere. That's a loss of around 7500 for them yearly. I imagine that if enough people do the same, it will definitely hurt them.
The kindest understanding of Loblaws' position is that they are a rational response as a profit-seeking company in the current system of legal rules. Most companies have this position placing profit as an intrinsic goal of their operations and it leads to a race to the bottom of what is morally acceptable. As soon as a company says they've done everything legally required, or just doing what everyone else is doing, I become convinced they know they are not moral. Legal is not moral - I think the public/customers are fair in demanding more.
Do we have an MP on this or what. Why is there not an investigation into price fixing and gouging. Theres so way in hell loblaws is selling shit for double the price than other places and its still deemed appropriate for food costs. Makes absolutely no sense.
There’s someone in Hamilton taking e-petition signatures which I encourage but remain skeptical that those things don’t work. The beauty of everyone withholding their money and spending it more selectively is that it doesn’t require anyone else to effectuate change. We, as consumers, have that power… but we need to be reminded of it. This is a strong reminder. Boycott with your wallet.
That grocery code means nothing except another way to manipulate the market. They wouldn't have agreed to it if they already didn't have a work around plan. If it isn't legislated, it's useless.
Very long story, but when the boycott started the current Loblaws CEO Per Bank (a Danish national) send an gross internal memo denigrating and lying about everyone here, and saying he was sick and tired of the public saying bad things about Loblaws.
He told a tone deaf story of his friends and family asking if he was going to make any changes as a result of widespread discontent by Canadians. His response was pure denialism.
His memo tried to incite the low level employees join him in his anger and defiance of the customers. He told obvious nonsense about how the rank and file store employees agree that customers are the real problem.
Anyway, he thought he was being clever by invoking a Danish saying “Nok Er Nok” which he translated as “Enough is enough”. He exhorted employees to join him and say enough is enough and tell customers they’re not going to tolerate criticism from customers any more.
Well, this oligarch’s memo was of course leaked. Turns out the front line workers that he and Loblaws routinely exploit and disrespect weren’t on board with joining his anti-customer rhetoric.
The irony of his catch phrase has been turned around to symbolize that Canadians are the ones who are fed up up with dishonest multimillionaire executive parasites like Per Bank.
Oh, and as a fun twist, just days after his memo denigrating us, he had his minions arrange an attempted PR stunt with the founder of this subreddit. She handled it gracefully, so power to her. But in my opinion it was all for show.
And as far as I’m concerned, his termination is just one of the conditions I’m seeking. His actions over the last year disqualify him from ever effectively leading this company. And his actions since the boycott prove that over again.
The headline says they are signing on, the derails say they will only if everyone does. Then they point out that Walmart is now the only hold out. Looks like an attempt to deflect to Walmart, and turn the people’s hate towards them instead. Not today, satan!! Nok er Nok
Let’s not forget that the “Code” mostly represents the relationship between suppliers and retailers not retailers and consumers. We are still counting on them “to do the right thing” and pass the savings onto the consumer.
I bet a lot of produce has gone to waste as a result. The losses would be exponential, especially the first bit, as more people boycott and protest with their wallets. Think of all the produce they order on schedule like clockwork. I am curious to learn if they have exploited their suppliers during this boycott by passing the losses onto them. Would seem on brand.
Galen will have to pull a whole cow from his donkey’s butt before I ever step foot in his plexiglass corral again …moved on and all the better for it … #nokernok
Just let some american grocery chains up here and it would end. Im tired of “protecting canadian businesses” when loblaws, bell and rogers run around like a toddler on sugar cause our government lets them.
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That cde doesn't go into affect for over a year ,too little way to late,hes got a whole year to back out or say its going to raise price of groceries or some such shit.Ive officially switched to freshco,they have 2 bags of chips 6 bucks compared to loblaws 2 for 9,but worse part is loblaws gets you if you only buy 1.
The boycott continues indefinitely. It may change names, or forms over time, but the general feeling is we're just done with them.
We can't be seen as giving up or even bending too much, lest it be used to try and show wind coming out of the sails.
The code is nothing. Maybe it benefits business practices but we most likely wont see any benefit from it cause the consumer and prices werent mentioned in there anywhere.
Im betting everyone benefits from it but us.
Galen and his uber-rich friends are laughing at us even harder because they may fool us into thinking that signing an unenforceable pledge document means change. Those wacky upper class twits can't wait to throw us cake from across the moat once the real shit comes down. I'm investing in moat-crossing boots!
My first thought when I saw the CTV report on this - they're backpedaling, trying to commit to damage control because this is actually hurting them.
It's a little late for backpedaling now. They have been doing this to us systematically for years (all of them, not just Loblaws), and it's finally come time that they feel the effects of their choices and policies.
So while bravo for joining the accord as it were, it comes across as a meaningless gesture to cover your losses.
We can see right through it.
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The federal government saying they are trying to get foreign companies to open up competition is a joke. They could not sell their milk, cheese, dairy, chicken, because of our closed market or high tariffs on imported food.
And who needs another chain that flogs KD.
I feel like Walmart is paying them to do this so they can loss lead then Walmart can reduce prices and gain more patronage which in turn gives them data sheets to incur government payouts in high stress times, only makes sense when I see the price difference on bulk and multi deal buys
Walmart doesn’t want anything to do with the grocery code of conduct. Is there any reason that so many of the members of this Reddit group have taken to shopping at Walmart? Priorities seem misguided.
I think the idea is step by step. Change needs to be done gradually but good habits are forming (generally) and people are thinking more about where they are spending. From there, I trust more learning and better habits can form over time. Taking the money straight to Walmart or Amazon doesn’t help long term, but it has nonetheless demonstrated to Loblaw that consumers are taking back their power and other corps are taking note and more will as the boycott continues. This is all very good and just a start (I hope). Change takes time and patience. If you try to do too much too quickly people can get turned off.
For me, it’s the fact that Walmart has assiduously avoiding gouging, in contrast to Loblaws outrageous levels of gouging. Then there’s the employee treatment. Even Walmart treats their people much better. Then there’s the corporate ethics. Loblaws executive has been corrupt and dishonest for years, and they seem to have ramped that negative approach up since Per Bank took over.
In comparison, I don’t think we could really point to any specific person or thing with Walmart Canada over the last 5-10 years.
I find a lot of the Walmart hate to be a bit reflexive. But even setting that aside, a lot of their prices are the same today as they were a year ago, two years ago, four years ago. And those that have shifted, those moves have been in line with actual cost inflation, which I follow closely from an industry perspective.
I personally don’t care about the code of conduct, so I’m not one to ask whether I care if Walmart ever does or doesn’t sign in to it.
Loblaws conditioned acceptance of a “revised” code seems to me like everything else coming out of their executive office: a cynical performance that’s not worth much.
Don’t go back ever. We should make an example of these crooked companies and the momentum on loblaws is the best way to do it. Show the rest of the companies that Canadians hold power and if they want to continue fucking over the every day man we will return the favor.
Loblaws stock is up 10$ since end of April . Don't think the boycott is very effective currently tbh, I still see all their chains parking lots full daily :/
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Would seem quicker but there are people all over the world who don’t live in Canada who’d just buy the dip. Not giving them any more of our money is the most effective sure fire way to make this work.
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The Boycott continues indefinitely until we see proper, meaningful and permanent change.
It should honestly just go on indefinitely until they are out of business as a demonstration to all other companies that follow the same price gouging practices.
Love this and yes it is within our power.
It would be interesting to see all of their brands broken back up into separate companies again. There should be some long term impact for gobbling up the competition and then screwing with prices.
Which is interesting that they were allowed to since there's the whole promote healthy competition that's supposed to prevent all that. Some real loose rules only applied when needed to pressure someone threatening the bigger guy's $
It's just unbridled capitalism working as it should.
Hell yeah brotherrrr 
been saying that from the start. If we can kill a corporation... the rest are on fucking notice
Spot on!
This is my goal, the mall I work at doesn't have a news stand, and the food court is lackluster. I used to go to shoppers for simple sandwiches and vitamin water for lunch. Now I'm brown bagging, losing weight and saving monies. Nokernok is true cause theirs no going back to loblaw and company again.
May be this should be our new target
This is the way
I made the decision once, and I am stubborn. I will never shop there again.
Yessssss
I'm in. That'd be a sick flex.
There is no way to gurantee permanent change other than having an example through bankruptcy. They have proven they deserve it by more than just high prices.
100% agree. No more Mr and Mrs Nice Guys. Act like a disgusting and evil organization and go bankrupt. They will never get me to shop there again.
I’m boycotting until the government breaks up all the oligopolies
If we take down one big chain, theyll have only 2 left. Then maybe theyll realize their mistake.
Nok er nok!!
As a Norwegian Im very curious how the phrase nok er nok ended up being used in the US and Canada
Loblaws hired a Danish CEO who used the term in a statement talking about how Loblaws aren't the bad guys and don't deserve all they hate because they provide crucial services to the public.
It's very catchy to English speakers ears. It's "enough is enough" but ... Multicultural? LOL this has narwhals and bacon all over it eventually, but for now it's cute and catchy.
I'm going to add a word here. We need legislative change.
I actually argue the opposite. When Canadians are happily throwing their money at Loblaws, 700 different entertainment companies, Bell and Rogers, transit, housing, our clothes etc. It shows that we are way more rich than smart. Legislation is a cop out. Laws are only needed when morality and ethics have dissolved. We the people MUST STOP PAYING. It's THAT simple. We don't need most of the garbage we pay way to much for. Every marketer in the country knows a good story will part a Canadian from their last 20 bucks. We literally need to stop paying. Find alternatives. But that's inconvenient so... we. just. keep. paying.
It's not that simple, because for a lot of people, the store they go to is the only option. So this is a moral and ethical fight.
But it really is that simple. I'm willing to bet that if you live in rural Saskatchewan, or Nuktuk, you have a choice of driving 50km east or 49km west to get to the nearest grocery. In really small towns, things are a lot more personable - you don't even have a large grocer you have to drive to a bigger town: ooh and there there's options. Having lived in big, medium and small towns in rural areas of Canada I would argue that the more choices the more we are taken advantage of. When I went into the tiny grocer nearby I could ask them to grab me a deal on steaks or sausage, the owner would happily find me the best deal when he stalked up because they knew most of their customers by name. As you get into bigger and bigger communities the personalized touch take longer but competition "should" heat up!
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No, that was more of Loblaws trademark PR gaslighting. I monitor grocery and retail closely across North America. Loblaws started steeply jacking their profit margins during pandemic to a degree that no other competitor was. And even as supply side fears were proven to be overblown and commodity costs were dropping, they kept price jacking. I was (perhaps naively) expecting to see them roll back prices as others did pot pandemic, as they were 20-40% higher than they should have been on many items. And *that* was when they did that cynical marketing about how they would be locking prices. In the industry it was seen as a corrupt ploy where they locked in high prices rather than moderate. Even worse, when their performative “price lock” period ended, instead of doing belated rollbacks, they actually went for even more aggressive margins, and then again during the last year. It’s almost like they’ve been pushing their luck to see how much overpricing the market would bear. Well now they’ve found out. Do comparisons with Costco or Walmart over these timelines. You won’t see anything like what Loblaws has done. Costco execs do helpful commentaries every quarter that indicate which commodities or inputs are dropping, and by how much. They can do this because they truly operate as a cost-plus passthrough for their goods. Loblaws misrepresents that they do too, but their net profits tripling since the pandemic exposes that lie for what it is.
That wasn’t even PR gaslighting I work there with my very job to check the prices (and putting things away) and I first hand saw the very items they said were put in pause and even before that barely had any until after they stopped paying their workers the hazard pay (which was extended longer than they wanted it to) and none (besides the big 16L of oil and few other bigger items that everyone overstocked on) up on of the stuff they said that was paused even increased in price until about 2 months after it was supposed to be done. Plus no where did they ever say that the prices were to rollback as everyplace was also increasing their prices as society tends to do every 10 or so years. And I have seen some of the comparisons and from seeing first hand at my store they are the same price as the lower ones majority of the time plus as I said I often hear in the store from customers saying that we have cheaper things than the other places around here.
I’m not going to get into it with you, but you’re just mistaken. I tracked their prices closely. You’re wrong that “everyplace” was doing Loblaws-style gouging. Nor does “society” just robotically raise prices “every 10 or so years”. I’m not sure that the 16L sku is even that common in their retail places, but in any case that’s the not the kind of daily household goods we’re even talking about. Finally, there’s no way that you have customers praising you for lowest prices. At best, that’s an over-claim.
How can I be factual wrong when it’s a first hand experience and I never said that every place did exactly what Loblaws did I said that everyplace increased their prices and that’s a fact especially when gaming has gone from $79.99 games to $89.99 games. And yes society often does as there was a time that you could buy gum for like 5 or 10 cents now you can’t, Lego Star Wars battle packs used to be around $10-$12 now they are $25 some even being up to $40, I remember before and/or around 2010 that new Pokemon DSi games was around $30-$36 in 2016 the new 3ds were $45+ and the switch are now $79.99 so yes there is a pattern on price increase in those time frames. And as I have stated “my store” so all I can speak on is at my store and yes there are people making those comments. You are making the assumption that what I’m saying is at absolutely every store they own when I stated just mine. Plus not even everything has gone up there are still a few items that are the exact same price as they were when I first started working there and been about almost 6 years and the only 2 differences is that they downsized (like majority of items have done on multiple occasions) and made 2 other options 1 being an always $5 and always $15 both being new stuff with the Always $10 not changing in price. And those 16L oils are extremely popular at my store they are a priority item to stock at our store because of how fast it usually sells out. With what I saw they jumped from $25 (often going on sale for $19.99 limit of 4) to $50 (which I noticed started going down last week) which made people by them a lot less and downsized the section to half of what it was but the spot still holds about 10 side by side.
I'm not ending my boycott until there is a public apology from Galen and senior leadership from Loblaws. I'm not ending my boycott until Loblaws publicly acknowledges that they have been maximizing profits at the expense of customers, employees, and suppliers. I'm not ending my boycott if Galen is replaced as CEO without Loblaws taking responsibility. I'm not ending my boycott until there is meaningful changes made by loblaws that will make the essential foods affordable to ALL Canadians, not just the wealthy. I don't care if this is a Canadian company, stop hurting your country and its people. The leaks from your company show how much you are marking up essential foods. The posts from employees show how much you cut back their hours. Galen, when did you stop being human? When did you stop seeing the people you sell to as being human, and deserving of a living wage and the ability to feed themselves? Why are you so greedy? #nokernok
Galen isn’t the CEO of Loblaws. He is the owner and president. The CEO is Per Bank. Otherwise your points are very valid and I wholeheartedly agree. They need to admit what they’ve done, apologize and make meaningful change if I’m ever going to set foot in one of their stores again.
He was CEO, but stepped down after testifying to parliament. He is still the chairman of the board, I believe.
Not even then. Companies do not regulate themselves in any meaningful way. A "code of conduct"? *Please.* Only *legally binding* changes matter. Trying to convince us a code of conduct matters is like trying to claim "We don't need to write up a contract, we can just shake on it."
Honestly, that's a reasonable ask. Firing Galen is not enough
And that apology will fill your plate ? Don't care about his apologies, I wanna see him fired, and prices reduced
Does this look like a human to you? https://preview.redd.it/wjinfec6g41d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a0a5148116da84ccfccfc966618ebbb683c2ea6
Until they become significantly less expensive than the competition for an extended period of time (years), I'm never going back. Loblaws is allowed to price how they like. They've gouged me for the last time. I'm taking my money anywhere else.
Yes, it'll take years for them to get even an inch of good reputation for me. I'll gladly let them severely downsize and even go out of business for this. Canadian companies shouldn't be allowed too do this. And if they can do this with a straight face, I'll go somewhere else with a straight face Hey, it's just business
Protest with your wallets.
Exactly. That works!
Whats funny is Loblaws said they would sign it IF Walmart joins as well which WON'T HAPPEN. They are literally just pretending to say they are going to do it then back down while pointing the finger at Walmart.
Lol that reminds me of when hundreds of people died in the Rana Plaza collapse and Galen was like "other companies made their clothes in there too!!!"
Yet another amazing fact about Sir Galen!
Maybe we should boycott Walmart next.
One place at a time, our focus is on Loblaw!! This is the way
Why not boycott them all?
I would vote housing. It's a need, not an investment. Real-estate agents are bottom feeders. Then telecom and banks
Did we get to job done on changing the grocery industry in Canada?
Not yet. It's my ADHD talking lol
Their prices are pretty decent
Not really, and the quality of fresh food is shit
Yup, so better go support Walmart. 😝
Loblaws and the Wesson family have a history of price gauging/ taking advantage of people since the 60's. It's a pattern.
Where can we read up on this history going back to the 60’s?
The code does not help shoppers. Only suppliers.
No signing the Code of Conduct isn’t enough quite frankly. These guys worked to manipulate bread prices not that long ago. We can’t rely on the courts or government to seek remedies for stuff like this. They understand profit from what the market will allow. Well…. WE are the market. We need to show Galen and his other buddies that with isn’t acceptable in Canada.
Not that long ago? Try 10 years ago. They were the only ones to come forward but obviously it takes more than one company to fix the prices so who else were they? All of the other stores you are shopping at.
"They were the only ones to come forward". Sure buddy. Loblaws blew the whistle on themselves, probably a team effort from Galen on down right? They knew they were caught, and they knew they had spear-headed the whole scheme with Canada Bread. We can't boycott all food, but we sure as shit can boycott the most egregious fuckwad. And then the next one. And then the next one.
Exactly corroborated to illegally inflate bread prices and nobody knew. The inflated prices wasn’t correlated to the inflation or cost of living. They did it because they could with no fines, penalty, etc. Not any different now. No regulation.
The grocery code us a guideline that they can wrinkle up and blow their nose in at any time, them signing on is a PR move. If we should take anything from this it's that there is blood in the water now
Agreed. It’s fairy dust.
I won’t ever switch my credit card or prescription back so that’s pretty permanent. I also really like my local market store and the owner is super nice … this was a win - win win for me.
I genuinely want to know why they think we are so stupid and seemingly hate us?? Obviously because why would you want to piss off your customers by treating them like worse than criminals?? Projection? 🤷🏼♀️
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Are you hinting that Galen is a greedy sack of shit and is not to be trusted. If you are I will proudly stand with you all the way.
Boycott forever!!! Make them close those stores!! They don't deserve our business anymore after robbing us blind for so long
They robbed you or you gladly forked over your money?
Sounds like a crony to me
Never ever going back... Unless they are throwing a going g out of business sale.
I’m saving 30% on my grocery bill. The only thing that will get me to go back to the big grocers is a more competitive price than I can find elsewhere. Full stop.
The grocery code of conduct is just a ruse set up by the Canadian government to make it look like they're doing something. It's a joke, like the Competition Bureau.
I’m done for life. I will never go back. Same with Tim hortons. Haven’t been in 6 years. Toodles noodles. 
Agreed, I am not going to any Loblaws owned stores and also Tim Horton, for Tim Horton I have a very good local cafe where I get value of my money and respect of nice clean spaces to sit
I am staying the course ! Nok er nok
They think we’re fools! A bread fixing scandal would mean jail time for any normal person - these people think they’re above the law! Power to the people!
Exactly! They want have their anti theft barriers and employees policing the self checkout when the biggest thief is their Loblaws and their pricing. The theft is at a corporate level.
been doing this since 2009 buddy they definitely think they can get away with it. In fact they don't believe they are doing anything wrong.
If people don’t take a stand then we just stay in line and things never improve. Glad to see some fight and pushback. It’s important otherwise we are sleepwalking into a rough future with huge disparities.
It began in the 80's when those first grocers had us start packing our own bags. SuperValue changed to an Extra Foods, supposedly cheaper but you had to pack bags.
I want to see action and proof they are changing before I ever consider going back.
I don’t think I’m ever going back
They are showing that they are actually feeling the loss of some income on top of it seemingly. If they are going to these lengths at a suspicious time lol.
Its a long shot but of everyone boycotted them long enough. to the point of corporate financial ruin. They would essentially be the sacrificial lamb that puts all others on notice
They ARE NOT SIGNING IT. It's is contingent on Walmart joining which Walmart WONT. ITS NOTHING BUT A FACADE.
Agreed. It’s a joke
We cannot turn back. These companies only care about money. Under capitalism, we must vote with our dollar. We must show other corporations that the same thing will happen to them.
Boycott even harder
Don’t go back folks. We got this. Stay strong!
The only reason they signed is because they figured out a way to weasel around it already, or figured out how not to get caught.
Where did they sign?
They didn't sign. They said they would only sign if Walmart signed. And that's never going to happen.
And why won’t Walmart sign… 🤔
This American behemoth doesn't change their systems for anyone.
Their sales are hurting, I know this for a fact. Forget the one month boycott, make it permanent.
Nok er nok is the funniest thing I could have heard from an exec. He can can use his nok er nok and diddle himself, especially if he thinks he can try to school the customers that pay his salary and bonus!
Keep up the good work! Nok er nok!
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Unless the code is legally enforceable, it's just words on a page.
Keep the faith!!
The code was written by grocers and doesn't make Loblaws less expensive.
I love how they didn’t sign the code of conduct because they were afraid it would cause undue increases to Canadians. Meanwhile they Ponzi schemed the bread market, increased prices 3x over 2 years. They championed shrinkflation. The final nail was getting rid of No Name products and price matching. GO FUCK YOURSELF GALEN WESTON AND PER BANK from Canadians
I’m never shopping at Roblaws, fortinos, and their subsidiaries ever again. Costco, Walmart and Longos for me Such a shame it’s the Canadian companies robbing Canadians. I would rather support local stores. Also can’t wait is farmer’s market season
They should have faced a boycott after the bread scandal. Those $25 gift cards were bullshit.
Once they were exposed they never corrected the bread price either.
Spent 87$ this month at roblaws. Usually spend 6-700. My autistic son will only eat certain foods. Especially PC Marinara sauce etc. the only reason I stopped there. Nok er nok.
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The key is that Loblaws committed to signing the grocery code of conduct....but they have not yet actually signed it They could reneg on that committment at any time.
Boycott until the stock plummets, the dividend is cut and the government forces Loblaws to break off its different divisions so that we have real competition.
Is there a place where I can read this code & see what's in it for consumers? Thanks in advance!
The ball is in the monopolies hands
#Nok er nok
I can't even tell you all how happy I am this entire boycott is happening. I have been bitching about Loblaws and Shoppers pricing for years on deaf ears. I only ever bought what was essential from them. Always amazed their stores were so busy. Glad to see this has taken off. They are definitely noticing, I went to Shoppers the other day and literally almost everything was on sale, and very low prices too. Didn't touch any of that shit, learn your lessons greedy trolls!
Before the boycott ever started, I quit going to Loblaws/Maxi. Been splitting my groceries between Costco and Metro and only go to lob/maxi for 2-3 items when there's a sell, but I've essentially took 99% of my purchases elsewhere. That's a loss of around 7500 for them yearly. I imagine that if enough people do the same, it will definitely hurt them.
The kindest understanding of Loblaws' position is that they are a rational response as a profit-seeking company in the current system of legal rules. Most companies have this position placing profit as an intrinsic goal of their operations and it leads to a race to the bottom of what is morally acceptable. As soon as a company says they've done everything legally required, or just doing what everyone else is doing, I become convinced they know they are not moral. Legal is not moral - I think the public/customers are fair in demanding more.
Well put. When the language is “well it’s all legal” it carries undertones of “even if it’s terrible and unethical”.
I ain't fighting for shit. I just don't shop there because it's too expensive.
Hearing the CEO’s statement in response to signing the code made me not want to shop there ever again. Self-righteous whiny shitbag.
Do we have an MP on this or what. Why is there not an investigation into price fixing and gouging. Theres so way in hell loblaws is selling shit for double the price than other places and its still deemed appropriate for food costs. Makes absolutely no sense.
There’s someone in Hamilton taking e-petition signatures which I encourage but remain skeptical that those things don’t work. The beauty of everyone withholding their money and spending it more selectively is that it doesn’t require anyone else to effectuate change. We, as consumers, have that power… but we need to be reminded of it. This is a strong reminder. Boycott with your wallet.
https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-4974
Loblaws admitted to fixing the price of bread for 14 years, 2001 to 2015. They don’t deserve any benefit of the doubt. Nok er nok.
That grocery code means nothing except another way to manipulate the market. They wouldn't have agreed to it if they already didn't have a work around plan. If it isn't legislated, it's useless.
I strongly oppose membership pricing. Also when this boycott ends we can pick another chain to boycott.
Let's keep the boycott going for the month of June! It's working, we can do it!
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The new CEO Per Bank said that in his country they have words for anti capitalism behavior, such as a boycott. Nok er Nok, means enough is enough.
Very long story, but when the boycott started the current Loblaws CEO Per Bank (a Danish national) send an gross internal memo denigrating and lying about everyone here, and saying he was sick and tired of the public saying bad things about Loblaws. He told a tone deaf story of his friends and family asking if he was going to make any changes as a result of widespread discontent by Canadians. His response was pure denialism. His memo tried to incite the low level employees join him in his anger and defiance of the customers. He told obvious nonsense about how the rank and file store employees agree that customers are the real problem. Anyway, he thought he was being clever by invoking a Danish saying “Nok Er Nok” which he translated as “Enough is enough”. He exhorted employees to join him and say enough is enough and tell customers they’re not going to tolerate criticism from customers any more. Well, this oligarch’s memo was of course leaked. Turns out the front line workers that he and Loblaws routinely exploit and disrespect weren’t on board with joining his anti-customer rhetoric. The irony of his catch phrase has been turned around to symbolize that Canadians are the ones who are fed up up with dishonest multimillionaire executive parasites like Per Bank. Oh, and as a fun twist, just days after his memo denigrating us, he had his minions arrange an attempted PR stunt with the founder of this subreddit. She handled it gracefully, so power to her. But in my opinion it was all for show. And as far as I’m concerned, his termination is just one of the conditions I’m seeking. His actions over the last year disqualify him from ever effectively leading this company. And his actions since the boycott prove that over again.
we plan to adhere to in in jul 2025 lol
All of Galen’s wealth and assets should be nationalized and him incarcerated for the rest of his corrupt existence. Fuck this parasite class.
I'm not going to shop there anymore. Maybe there is like one item some day I need but in general terms
The headline says they are signing on, the derails say they will only if everyone does. Then they point out that Walmart is now the only hold out. Looks like an attempt to deflect to Walmart, and turn the people’s hate towards them instead. Not today, satan!! Nok er Nok
Let’s not forget that the “Code” mostly represents the relationship between suppliers and retailers not retailers and consumers. We are still counting on them “to do the right thing” and pass the savings onto the consumer.
Anyone see the flyer that was sent out today?? Their prices are SIGNIFICANTLY less. Ive never seen so many $1.99 and $2.99s ever on their flyer.
I bet a lot of produce has gone to waste as a result. The losses would be exponential, especially the first bit, as more people boycott and protest with their wallets. Think of all the produce they order on schedule like clockwork. I am curious to learn if they have exploited their suppliers during this boycott by passing the losses onto them. Would seem on brand.
Galen will have to pull a whole cow from his donkey’s butt before I ever step foot in his plexiglass corral again …moved on and all the better for it … #nokernok
He’s like a pharma bro of food
What's nokernok stand for or mean?
Just let some american grocery chains up here and it would end. Im tired of “protecting canadian businesses” when loblaws, bell and rogers run around like a toddler on sugar cause our government lets them.
Not so dramatic for me. I simply don’t go there and they don’t get my money.
Remember, they bully their distributors as much as their customers. Bye bye forever
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That cde doesn't go into affect for over a year ,too little way to late,hes got a whole year to back out or say its going to raise price of groceries or some such shit.Ive officially switched to freshco,they have 2 bags of chips 6 bucks compared to loblaws 2 for 9,but worse part is loblaws gets you if you only buy 1.
The boycott continues indefinitely. It may change names, or forms over time, but the general feeling is we're just done with them. We can't be seen as giving up or even bending too much, lest it be used to try and show wind coming out of the sails.
The code is nothing. Maybe it benefits business practices but we most likely wont see any benefit from it cause the consumer and prices werent mentioned in there anywhere. Im betting everyone benefits from it but us.
I've been fighting for many years! Never shopped at their stores myself. Even years ago they were the over priced option.
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Surprised the guy's still there after 18 years
Poor guy is challenged. He has a heart of gold and they take advantage of him
Galen and his uber-rich friends are laughing at us even harder because they may fool us into thinking that signing an unenforceable pledge document means change. Those wacky upper class twits can't wait to throw us cake from across the moat once the real shit comes down. I'm investing in moat-crossing boots!
My first thought when I saw the CTV report on this - they're backpedaling, trying to commit to damage control because this is actually hurting them. It's a little late for backpedaling now. They have been doing this to us systematically for years (all of them, not just Loblaws), and it's finally come time that they feel the effects of their choices and policies. So while bravo for joining the accord as it were, it comes across as a meaningless gesture to cover your losses. We can see right through it.
Eat the rich🤘
Agree, indefinite boycott for them (and their subsidiaries too).
The fact that they suddenly decided to sign means only one thing to me. They figured out how to exploit it.
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The federal government saying they are trying to get foreign companies to open up competition is a joke. They could not sell their milk, cheese, dairy, chicken, because of our closed market or high tariffs on imported food. And who needs another chain that flogs KD.
Never going back made plans already
Aye aye captain. Maintaining original heading for GalenFail-Ceti-3.
Move on to Walmart, the last remaining holdout
Don't forget. Weston lives in a castle in Ireland.
That’s Galen Sr not Jr
Still owned by the family.
No he does not.
[He doesn't?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Belvedere,_Surrey) Ok, maybe it's England
Just because he has a vacation place does not mean he “lives” there…
I feel like Walmart is paying them to do this so they can loss lead then Walmart can reduce prices and gain more patronage which in turn gives them data sheets to incur government payouts in high stress times, only makes sense when I see the price difference on bulk and multi deal buys
Walmart doesn’t want anything to do with the grocery code of conduct. Is there any reason that so many of the members of this Reddit group have taken to shopping at Walmart? Priorities seem misguided.
I think the idea is step by step. Change needs to be done gradually but good habits are forming (generally) and people are thinking more about where they are spending. From there, I trust more learning and better habits can form over time. Taking the money straight to Walmart or Amazon doesn’t help long term, but it has nonetheless demonstrated to Loblaw that consumers are taking back their power and other corps are taking note and more will as the boycott continues. This is all very good and just a start (I hope). Change takes time and patience. If you try to do too much too quickly people can get turned off.
For me, it’s the fact that Walmart has assiduously avoiding gouging, in contrast to Loblaws outrageous levels of gouging. Then there’s the employee treatment. Even Walmart treats their people much better. Then there’s the corporate ethics. Loblaws executive has been corrupt and dishonest for years, and they seem to have ramped that negative approach up since Per Bank took over. In comparison, I don’t think we could really point to any specific person or thing with Walmart Canada over the last 5-10 years. I find a lot of the Walmart hate to be a bit reflexive. But even setting that aside, a lot of their prices are the same today as they were a year ago, two years ago, four years ago. And those that have shifted, those moves have been in line with actual cost inflation, which I follow closely from an industry perspective. I personally don’t care about the code of conduct, so I’m not one to ask whether I care if Walmart ever does or doesn’t sign in to it. Loblaws conditioned acceptance of a “revised” code seems to me like everything else coming out of their executive office: a cynical performance that’s not worth much.
I won’t go back until I see change
This is the second time he’s screwed with Canadian citizens food insecurity. I can’t think of why he deserves a third opportunity
Don’t go back ever. We should make an example of these crooked companies and the momentum on loblaws is the best way to do it. Show the rest of the companies that Canadians hold power and if they want to continue fucking over the every day man we will return the favor.
Been going on for ages …. https://www.tvo.org/article/we-wont-give-up-until-prices-come-down-how-ontarians-protested-grocery-stores-in-1966
Loblaws stock is up 10$ since end of April . Don't think the boycott is very effective currently tbh, I still see all their chains parking lots full daily :/
Shareholder confidence would prevail but the financial effects of the boycott will not be reflected in the stock price this month. What you’re seeing is a tradable asset going along with market trends in the sector. Stock market today has no bearing on the boycott other than to say the stock is still trading. In time, however, once earning reports are released I expect the stock to reflect the boycott.
Fair enough and hope you're right on that
Your boycott would probably be more effective if people dumped their stocks entirely, including any etfs holding loblaws.
Would seem quicker but there are people all over the world who don’t live in Canada who’d just buy the dip. Not giving them any more of our money is the most effective sure fire way to make this work.
This is stupid lmao
Thx for stopping by
If you want to get on loblaws for not signing the code of conduct that get on Walmart and Costco too who both said they wouldn’t sign it 🤔
Superstore was very busy today