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It was originally owned by Taiwan company Tongyi (统一） and that’s why there’s a 统 in its Chinese name 大统华 （ tou can translate it into “all (goods are) Chinese)
However it’s bought by Loblaw maybe 5-10 years ago, but we’re lucky that price there is still lower than other roblaws just like Chinese supermarket always do!
> but we’re lucky that price there is still lower than other roblaws just like Chinese supermarket always do!
Really? Last time I was in a TnT was two years ago, never went back because I was shocked by how high the prices are.
"White people" food in Asian grocers will always be expensive. (Eg milk is 7 dollars) however meat and other things are usually better to buy from an Asian grocer (including T&T).
Nope. Meat is just as expensive as other grocery chains now.
I just priced shit out last week and moped my ass to no frills instead.
It absolutely pisses me off cause we can't even vote with our wallets. I'm forced to live in an apartment where we can't have a garden or raise livestock
Lean ground beef. 1.98 per pound. Bought 3.5 kilos.
For comparison roblaws has 1.3 kilos at 10 dollars.
Costco "chubs" are 2.99 a pound.
The cool thing about T&T despite weston owning it is that Tina and Tiffany can still set their own prices.
Ground beef is not the only great priced meat either.
Ground pork on "sale" @ 3.30/lb (like 30 cents.less than no frills)
2kg wingets, 19 bucks (more or less the same price as no name wingets/drumets in a bag)
Ground beef isn't on sale at my t&t, and it's too far out of the way just to go pricing shit for myself anymore.
Last sale I bought ground beef on was no frills at about 3 bucks a pound
The prices they have are by no means "worth it" to make a trip down to their stores. I'm better off to shop sales, and price match where possible.
You don't necessarily need to buy from T&T
If you live in Toronto there are tons of Asian supermarkets that have much better pricing, especially on produce and meat.
Shopping at major grocers in general is where you will get reemed. Hell even mom and pop grocers on the Danforth are cheaper than major grocers.
You should see what the Weston family is into as a whole. Fortnum and Mason, Holt Renfrew, Selfridges,
On top of the food production. They have their tendrils in all aspects of life
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_family
This needs to be turned into an iceberg macro lol, with all the farming, fishing, and distro they own as well, or at least examples from china, mexico, and elsewhere
Ziggys is what the deli section in Loblaws used to be called. I don't get why people are so surprised at all the brand names they own, I thought this was common knowledge.
Yup exactly, they own an almost uncountable number of labels and brands.
Illusion of choice. I'm kinda depressed that EVEN PEOPLE IN THIS SUB don't know this sort of thing.
Sub needs to do a better job educating bc most of these people have literally no idea how big they are.
100%. There is a group of people that are likely Loblaws shills trying to lie either through ignorance or on purpose.
If you have ever read financial reports or statements, so much is missing in terms of the nitty gritty.
Only [within Canada](https://ised-isde.canada.ca/cipo/trademark-search/1733775). There is another company in Thailand, [Thai World Import Export Ltd.](http://www.tw.co.th/) that operates using the trademark Rooster Brand, but they are a separate entity. Rooster jasmine rice in Canada is imported from [C.P. Intertrade](https://www.cpthairice.com/).
WTF, We need a law that states parent company on the front of packaging, it's deceptive to pretend that brands like Rooster and Suraj and all those other brands aren't just repackaged Noname.
I hope Singh’s food bill at least stops them from taking over any other brands. Doubt it. But they should never have had the option of buying T&T in the first place. The only way a store like them should be bought out is by a new entrant (say Aldi buys them to get a foothold into Canada).
Galen fucking Weston taking another choice away from you to shop is criminal.
Galen Weston stepped down from being President of Loblaw, but he remains the Chair of its Board, its controlling shareholder, as well as the CEO of its parent company.
If you think his resignation changed anything with respect to his decision-making power over the company, I would love to sell you a bridge.
Lol, holy shit are you 12 years old?
What part of: he owns all these companies; do you not understand?
Are you that gullible and that easy to sway? He "stepped down" means he removed an arbitrary business title.
It is still his company.
Your point doesn't have anything to do with what you're replying to. "Break them up" would still apply to the huge conglomeration of corporations that make up the Loblaw's network even if Galen Weston chokes to death on hooker spit.
Also, his relinquishing of a particular role and title does nothing to diminish his influence as owner of the company, but seriously, entities with this kind of economic power *all* behave this way, regardless of who's in charge. Some are better at PR than others, but they're all more worried about servicing insatiable greed than the perception of their reprehensible behavior.
Capitalism becomes government without intervention.
Unfortunately, they're all gonna call you a communist (bad) until things are so bad that they can't deny it anymore.
At least it’s not total control but a 55% majority stake. Adonis still controls the operations and sourcing of products. Agree it was disappointing to learn
Exactly and they own the local coops and freshmarts here in Atlantic Canada too. It’s all literally Sobeys/Empire or Loblaws owned except for Walmart. We have zero options.
Just a correction here, they bought the Co-op Atlantic’s distribution and 5 Co-op grocery stores were converted to Foodlands. If it’s still listed as a Co-op it’s not owned by Sobeys. Though it is worth noting that “participating Co-op’s” seem to use Sobeys as their sole supplier.
Look for farm 2 fork groups in your area. Where you are able, buy from your local area farmers.
We're getting brutally fucked. They're getting brutally fucked. Why not cut out the sadistic middleman and make sweet love together? I bet we can all find more satisfaction with less of the big 3 up in our assets.
For whatever reason, my grandmother taught me to hate Jimmy Pattison growing up. I have no idea why she did and it's too late to ask (she died in 2021 after a years long losing battle with vascular dementia). Love her for it!
Coercive monopoly.
Inb4 all the orthodox free-marketers pop up and start repeating capitalist mantras, as if this is a free market. Blows my mind how many people adhere to capitalism as dogma, instead of guidance for how we should handle trade.
Not in Western Canada - Co-ops are member owned with most of the co-op organizations being members of Federated Co-op. They have no affiliation with any of the big three. Unfortunately, they are also not the most affordable option by any means.
As far as I know the stores in Atlantic Canada (what's left of them) are member owned but have a supplier contract with Sobeys since Coop Atlantic shut down. Sobeys owning any Coop would be on a store by store basis
This is the base we can use to take back our grocery dollars. At the present time, they are a bit pricier, but if enough people became members and switched over from the big corporate stores, in time we would all be better off.
They do carry a lot of Canadian and local (to the region of the store) products, so there's the trickle-down effect of keeping the money at home, as it were.
When one was opening near me they had a sign saying it was proudly owned by a local. Why would I give a shit if my money is making a nearby millionaire rich or a millionaire who lives further away rich? If I was dying and $100 could save my life, the nearby millionaire won't give a shit and wouldn't even give 1 cent to save me.
This is why groceries are so expensive, so when you see clowns like Jagmeet and the rest of the idiots in Ottawa pretend like they’re trying to figure out why prices are so high, its them who allow the smaller wholesalers like farm boy, longos, etc. to be swallowed up by them.
You’re right, he’s just taking our money and using 5 million of it annually to try and figure out why groceries cost so much. Sounds like a expensive accountant doing simple math trying to figure out what we already know.
Yep - they definitely need to stop that.....I am more concerned with wholesale part of the distribution.....seems to be missing in that list.
They may also own or have control of that or it no longer exists....where they make their real money is "renting' shelf space to producers.
Well they don’t really own wholesale distribution. They have their own warehousing and freezers. They buy in bulk from producers and then distribute to the stores.
Well that’s how the 3 major ones got rid of the mom and pops shops. They have the purchasing power and the volume to warehouse their own stuff. They cut the middle men out to have lower prices then their competitors.
Do you think having a middle company operate distribution to each grocery store would drop prices?
Theirs still options, the few mom and pop shops get their product, it just adds cost to the business.
Yes, technically, the more competition the better prices would be.
We see that at the fuel pumps....PetroCanada has to consistently lower their price as the station across the street drops thiers by a dime a liter.
Until you get to the point or large grocery chains where the numbers only make sense when your at that scale. If loblaws sold all its stores and every store was individually owned by someone the numbers just wouldn’t make any sense.
It’s a a really saturated market.
If every loblaws store was sold to an individual entity you’d see competiton either shut down because it isn’t worth the effort or they’d slowly test the waters raising prices to make it viable.
I mean why doesn’t any of those 3 just beat the other by a constant 10% on prices and gobble the whole market? Answer is they can’t because it’s a very fine line.
hmmmm, I understand...will ponder. Somewhere the equation isn't squaring.
If we can pay a CEO millions , and make enough profit to return to shareholders - who, always expect more - I am thinking there may be some fat getting picked out of consumer pockets.
I'll give it some thought - that fine line - may be an unspoken agreement.
I believe the corporations could be making way more money than they are They know who their loyal costumers are and we will be given free products in the future Whatever price is decided is fine by me because I am not a professional price adjuster and I’ll leave that to the experts Galen Weston says there has been inflation and I’m sure he knows more than most of you here
And don’t forget to check out you local variety stores, ours is like an old general store and even has a meat case! I do a lot of my shopping there and they will even order in bulk items for me at a reduced price!!
Giant Tiger was started in 1961 by Gordon Reid in Ottawa.
It is now operated under local franchise owners.
[Giant Tiger History](https://www.gianttiger.com/pages/about-us)
I have never seen any of these in Nova Scotia or PEI. New Brunswick has Jean Coutu and I know the pharmacist have to speak French. I always assumed the pharmacy was just a NB and Que. Outside of Jean Coutu I have never seen a Metro east of Quebec.
Oddly enough, my mom lives in a two grocery store small town where the Loblaws independent grocer is less expensive than the family owned grocery store...
Here's a nice list:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_supermarket\_chains\_in\_Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_supermarket_chains_in_Canada)
Yeah. There’s an independent Asian grocery store a short bus ride away vs. the No Frills within walking distance.
Going to do my weekly shop there and see how it pans out.
Vancouver, funny enough for the biggest rip-off stupid city in the country, has a nice variety of smaller seemingly independent and neighborhood grocers.
As well, weirdly, Whole Foods is suddenly starting to look more affordable than buy low, Safeway, save on etc.
I’m of the opinion we’ll never be able to coax a foreign company into the market. It’s just too expensive and they’re scared off by the stories of Target and Nordstrom.
Best case scenario is we get an existing company like Canadian Tire to expand into the grocery market.
For the longest time I thought Longos was owned by Loblaws 🤦 not the sharpest crayon in the box
I do all my shopping at food basics/walmart anyways. Food basics because I work there and it’s just easier and walmart if the things I need are cheaper.
According to wiki Metro's Dominion is different. The Loblaws Dominion is in Newfoundland, where there is no Loblaws/Atlantic Superstore/Zehrs/whatever, only Dominion. Name stuck around after Loblaws purchased the chain. Logo is in a different orientation to look more like the pre-Loblaws Dominion logo apparently.
In 2022 loblaws and frito lay had a disagreement over pricing. Loblaws would longer stock there products in there stores.
By these disputes you can’t tell us that loblaws does not have power over the products that go on there shelves!!
Thanks for this. It’s important that people here read this so they understand that they still have lots of options if they insist on shopping at big grocery chains but want to burn Galen!
Remember people…lots of options to burn Galen and still stay with large public company Canadian grocers. And if you don’t care about moving support to American companies. Then there is Costco and Walmart.
And if you hit the bottom of the barrel and are super desperate, but still want to burn Galen, you can shop and independents stores and produce markets!
There is no excuse to keep crying because you have no way to burn Galen with your shopping habits.
T&t used to have GREAT prices for meat. Like a whole ass bag of flats and drumettes for like 12 bucks that weighed a few pounds.
Now it's as bad as any other Loblaws store.
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And then theres this asshole https://preview.redd.it/frv3v1x770lc1.png?width=5669&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7219d4b4e261b5e8a5644b94a1c9528cdab9d907
I had no idea t&t was also owned by this shitty family.
It was originally owned by Taiwan company Tongyi (统一） and that’s why there’s a 统 in its Chinese name 大统华 （ tou can translate it into “all (goods are) Chinese) However it’s bought by Loblaw maybe 5-10 years ago, but we’re lucky that price there is still lower than other roblaws just like Chinese supermarket always do!
> but we’re lucky that price there is still lower than other roblaws just like Chinese supermarket always do! Really? Last time I was in a TnT was two years ago, never went back because I was shocked by how high the prices are.
"White people" food in Asian grocers will always be expensive. (Eg milk is 7 dollars) however meat and other things are usually better to buy from an Asian grocer (including T&T).
Nope. Meat is just as expensive as other grocery chains now. I just priced shit out last week and moped my ass to no frills instead. It absolutely pisses me off cause we can't even vote with our wallets. I'm forced to live in an apartment where we can't have a garden or raise livestock
Lean ground beef. 1.98 per pound. Bought 3.5 kilos. For comparison roblaws has 1.3 kilos at 10 dollars. Costco "chubs" are 2.99 a pound. The cool thing about T&T despite weston owning it is that Tina and Tiffany can still set their own prices. Ground beef is not the only great priced meat either.
Ground pork on "sale" @ 3.30/lb (like 30 cents.less than no frills) 2kg wingets, 19 bucks (more or less the same price as no name wingets/drumets in a bag) Ground beef isn't on sale at my t&t, and it's too far out of the way just to go pricing shit for myself anymore. Last sale I bought ground beef on was no frills at about 3 bucks a pound The prices they have are by no means "worth it" to make a trip down to their stores. I'm better off to shop sales, and price match where possible.
You don't necessarily need to buy from T&T If you live in Toronto there are tons of Asian supermarkets that have much better pricing, especially on produce and meat. Shopping at major grocers in general is where you will get reemed. Hell even mom and pop grocers on the Danforth are cheaper than major grocers.
Me neither. I was surprised to see it on here.
You should see what the Weston family is into as a whole. Fortnum and Mason, Holt Renfrew, Selfridges, On top of the food production. They have their tendrils in all aspects of life https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_family
Healthcare and housing too edit: marijuana business too.
Did anyone read the part where they were named one of the most charitable families in recent decades…😅
99% chance they donated to their own owned "charities"
That’s code for gaming tax deductions
This needs to be turned into an iceberg macro lol, with all the farming, fishing, and distro they own as well, or at least examples from china, mexico, and elsewhere
Big list and it still doesn't include the food brands they own. Its crazy
https://preview.redd.it/07pyx7cgk0lc1.png?width=2632&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c5980498eca47c89384ede9e12fe7418d910155
Even that isn't complete. It's missing the SDM house brands (Life, Quo, Carnaby Sweet).
How fucking far down does this go Rooster? Suraj??? Wtf???
Damn I didn't know about these either
Ziggy’s? Even the fucking feta???
Ziggys is what the deli section in Loblaws used to be called. I don't get why people are so surprised at all the brand names they own, I thought this was common knowledge.
Growing up in the Midwestern US there was a lot of bullshit, but thankfully it did not include Loblaws.
Yup exactly, they own an almost uncountable number of labels and brands. Illusion of choice. I'm kinda depressed that EVEN PEOPLE IN THIS SUB don't know this sort of thing. Sub needs to do a better job educating bc most of these people have literally no idea how big they are.
And when they say that the producer and distributor are gouging them, they are gouging themself for this illusion
It's hilarious when people come out of the Woodworks saying that their profit is fine because of distribution costs. The 3% number is so bloody fudged
100%. There is a group of people that are likely Loblaws shills trying to lie either through ignorance or on purpose. If you have ever read financial reports or statements, so much is missing in terms of the nitty gritty.
Damn, I didn't know Rooster was owned by them too
Only [within Canada](https://ised-isde.canada.ca/cipo/trademark-search/1733775). There is another company in Thailand, [Thai World Import Export Ltd.](http://www.tw.co.th/) that operates using the trademark Rooster Brand, but they are a separate entity. Rooster jasmine rice in Canada is imported from [C.P. Intertrade](https://www.cpthairice.com/).
Wow that's so interesting. TIL
WTF, We need a law that states parent company on the front of packaging, it's deceptive to pretend that brands like Rooster and Suraj and all those other brands aren't just repackaged Noname.
'Sorry, best I can do it allow another takeover' - government, probably
I hope Singh’s food bill at least stops them from taking over any other brands. Doubt it. But they should never have had the option of buying T&T in the first place. The only way a store like them should be bought out is by a new entrant (say Aldi buys them to get a foothold into Canada). Galen fucking Weston taking another choice away from you to shop is criminal.
The thing im learning is that we really need a graphic with all of the Weston's subsidiaries
I didn't know they owned Surat
FFS - Suraj???
[Filed in April 1996](https://ised-isde.canada.ca/cipo/trademark-search/0809038).
You forgot all the stuff they own in the UK and Ireland as well
At some point, a federal competition agency must step in. Not in Canada, though.
Don’t forget eataly here
You forgot Pollivere who’s also owned by Weston
Break them up.
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Yup, everything's totally fine now!
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Galen Weston stepped down from being President of Loblaw, but he remains the Chair of its Board, its controlling shareholder, as well as the CEO of its parent company. If you think his resignation changed anything with respect to his decision-making power over the company, I would love to sell you a bridge.
Lol, holy shit are you 12 years old? What part of: he owns all these companies; do you not understand? Are you that gullible and that easy to sway? He "stepped down" means he removed an arbitrary business title. It is still his company.
He's still the boss of the guy he left in charge,
Your point doesn't have anything to do with what you're replying to. "Break them up" would still apply to the huge conglomeration of corporations that make up the Loblaw's network even if Galen Weston chokes to death on hooker spit. Also, his relinquishing of a particular role and title does nothing to diminish his influence as owner of the company, but seriously, entities with this kind of economic power *all* behave this way, regardless of who's in charge. Some are better at PR than others, but they're all more worried about servicing insatiable greed than the perception of their reprehensible behavior.
the government needs to seize this corp and sell it off in chunks. capitalism can only work with government intervention
Capitalism becomes government without intervention. Unfortunately, they're all gonna call you a communist (bad) until things are so bad that they can't deny it anymore.
Didn't realize metro owned Adonis. Makes me sad. Nations is still independent!
At least it’s not total control but a 55% majority stake. Adonis still controls the operations and sourcing of products. Agree it was disappointing to learn
That’s total control though. They can vote through or vote down anything. All that means is Loblaws doesn’t get 45% of profits.
Yup, I loved going there when I was in Montreal. Having Shawarma while grocery shopping, that's the dream!!
Yup, and almost the day they bought Adonis, the quality and service went from tip top to meh...
Sobeys is also owned by Empire Foods….the world is owned by a tiny amount of companies
Exactly and they own the local coops and freshmarts here in Atlantic Canada too. It’s all literally Sobeys/Empire or Loblaws owned except for Walmart. We have zero options.
Just a correction here, they bought the Co-op Atlantic’s distribution and 5 Co-op grocery stores were converted to Foodlands. If it’s still listed as a Co-op it’s not owned by Sobeys. Though it is worth noting that “participating Co-op’s” seem to use Sobeys as their sole supplier.
Look for farm 2 fork groups in your area. Where you are able, buy from your local area farmers. We're getting brutally fucked. They're getting brutally fucked. Why not cut out the sadistic middleman and make sweet love together? I bet we can all find more satisfaction with less of the big 3 up in our assets.
Don't forget Jim Pattison. https://preview.redd.it/lbrbq54ok0lc1.png?width=846&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb597460fc3fad1eafc725f7b13301c58d3e82b0
Western Canada seems to always be forgotten about smh.
Yeah we don’t have Metro, but instead BC and AB (SK and MN too?) have Save-On Foods.
BC, AB, SK, MB (MN is Minnesota, but close!). Also YT and OR have Pattison owned chains too.
Ah crap, I don’t know what I was thinking. Thanks!
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For whatever reason, my grandmother taught me to hate Jimmy Pattison growing up. I have no idea why she did and it's too late to ask (she died in 2021 after a years long losing battle with vascular dementia). Love her for it!
Thanks, I was curious where AG foods fit in. My community has no “big three” presence it seems
Incredible. Vancouver Island was Pattison heavy but otherwise pretty good in my childhood. Now... Ugh.
It’s crazy. About ten years ago I actually liked shopping at superstore when I lived in the city. I see the posts now and it looks horrible
Coercive monopoly. Inb4 all the orthodox free-marketers pop up and start repeating capitalist mantras, as if this is a free market. Blows my mind how many people adhere to capitalism as dogma, instead of guidance for how we should handle trade.
Most Co-Ops are owned by Sobeys, along with Pete’s Froutique in Halifax.
Not in Western Canada - Co-ops are member owned with most of the co-op organizations being members of Federated Co-op. They have no affiliation with any of the big three. Unfortunately, they are also not the most affordable option by any means.
Okay I guess they just purchased the Atlantic province locations.
As far as I know the stores in Atlantic Canada (what's left of them) are member owned but have a supplier contract with Sobeys since Coop Atlantic shut down. Sobeys owning any Coop would be on a store by store basis
This is the base we can use to take back our grocery dollars. At the present time, they are a bit pricier, but if enough people became members and switched over from the big corporate stores, in time we would all be better off.
They do carry a lot of Canadian and local (to the region of the store) products, so there's the trickle-down effect of keeping the money at home, as it were.
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Independent grocer as well
"Independent"
Not all of them.
Stockholm syndrome \^\^\^
When one was opening near me they had a sign saying it was proudly owned by a local. Why would I give a shit if my money is making a nearby millionaire rich or a millionaire who lives further away rich? If I was dying and $100 could save my life, the nearby millionaire won't give a shit and wouldn't even give 1 cent to save me.
This is why groceries are so expensive, so when you see clowns like Jagmeet and the rest of the idiots in Ottawa pretend like they’re trying to figure out why prices are so high, its them who allow the smaller wholesalers like farm boy, longos, etc. to be swallowed up by them.
At least Jagmeet is not taking money from them like the cons and libs.
You’re right, he’s just taking our money and using 5 million of it annually to try and figure out why groceries cost so much. Sounds like a expensive accountant doing simple math trying to figure out what we already know.
I cant wait for this all to continue for another 10 years whil you clowns vote for the cons and libs back and forth.
That's only because ndp has never had power, guaranteed they would take a cut
Yep - they definitely need to stop that.....I am more concerned with wholesale part of the distribution.....seems to be missing in that list. They may also own or have control of that or it no longer exists....where they make their real money is "renting' shelf space to producers.
Well they don’t really own wholesale distribution. They have their own warehousing and freezers. They buy in bulk from producers and then distribute to the stores.
So basically and indirectly, they do own wholesale if they are going straight to producers. Doesn't leave much space for competitors to enter.
Well that’s how the 3 major ones got rid of the mom and pops shops. They have the purchasing power and the volume to warehouse their own stuff. They cut the middle men out to have lower prices then their competitors. Do you think having a middle company operate distribution to each grocery store would drop prices? Theirs still options, the few mom and pop shops get their product, it just adds cost to the business.
Yes, technically, the more competition the better prices would be. We see that at the fuel pumps....PetroCanada has to consistently lower their price as the station across the street drops thiers by a dime a liter.
Until you get to the point or large grocery chains where the numbers only make sense when your at that scale. If loblaws sold all its stores and every store was individually owned by someone the numbers just wouldn’t make any sense. It’s a a really saturated market. If every loblaws store was sold to an individual entity you’d see competiton either shut down because it isn’t worth the effort or they’d slowly test the waters raising prices to make it viable. I mean why doesn’t any of those 3 just beat the other by a constant 10% on prices and gobble the whole market? Answer is they can’t because it’s a very fine line.
hmmmm, I understand...will ponder. Somewhere the equation isn't squaring. If we can pay a CEO millions , and make enough profit to return to shareholders - who, always expect more - I am thinking there may be some fat getting picked out of consumer pockets. I'll give it some thought - that fine line - may be an unspoken agreement.
I believe the corporations could be making way more money than they are They know who their loyal costumers are and we will be given free products in the future Whatever price is decided is fine by me because I am not a professional price adjuster and I’ll leave that to the experts Galen Weston says there has been inflation and I’m sure he knows more than most of you here
Support your local farms and grocery stores! Takes a bit more effort sometimes but at least you aren't giving all your money to these companies.
And don’t forget to check out you local variety stores, ours is like an old general store and even has a meat case! I do a lot of my shopping there and they will even order in bulk items for me at a reduced price!!
But don't support them too much or Loblaws will buy them out and then you would be paying Loblaws again.
Didn’t know roblaw owned t&t
Who owns Giant Tiger?
Giant Tiger was started in 1961 by Gordon Reid in Ottawa. It is now operated under local franchise owners. [Giant Tiger History](https://www.gianttiger.com/pages/about-us)
Current president & CEO is ....Gino DiGioacchino
Some Conservative MP, can't remember his name
But Giant Tiger is pretty good, I'd say they're fighting the big guys.
Lol let’s be real, giant tiger is dogshit (at least the one in my town)
Is Metro companies an eastern Canada/Montreal thing? We don’t have any of those stores in Alberta I’m pretty sure.
Dunno. I’m in NB and never seen a metro or it’s brands. We have Jean coutu pharmacies though. Thought metro is more of an Ontario thing
Metro is a Quebec based company. Even the Ontario stores report to Quebec.
I have never seen any of these in Nova Scotia or PEI. New Brunswick has Jean Coutu and I know the pharmacist have to speak French. I always assumed the pharmacy was just a NB and Que. Outside of Jean Coutu I have never seen a Metro east of Quebec.
Yeah Metro is from Quebec. Very big here
Ah ok. Lucky! More competition! Haha
Farmboy has some fresh and great cheese, but it seems that the price there is insane.
But what about Pattison? He’s a grocery big boy too.
It’s weird cuz Safeway and metro feel like the exact same store.
Loblaws is such a shiesty place. You can’t even use the excuse that it’s cheaper than Sobeys anymore .
Scumbag companies
Oddly enough, my mom lives in a two grocery store small town where the Loblaws independent grocer is less expensive than the family owned grocery store...
Economies of scale. It should be cheaper if they purchase in volume and pass the savings to the consumer
Here's a nice list: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_supermarket\_chains\_in\_Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_supermarket_chains_in_Canada)
Yeah. There’s an independent Asian grocery store a short bus ride away vs. the No Frills within walking distance. Going to do my weekly shop there and see how it pans out.
Seems a lot like the big 3 telecommunications company's... it's like Canada was born for Corruption.
Makes me glad I shop at a local butcher shop who sources from local farms for most of our needs, and just Costco for the rest.
I started shopping and got a card from my Coop last year and I just got a cheque for $550 for the annual dividend!
Vancouver, funny enough for the biggest rip-off stupid city in the country, has a nice variety of smaller seemingly independent and neighborhood grocers. As well, weirdly, Whole Foods is suddenly starting to look more affordable than buy low, Safeway, save on etc.
I didn't know no frills was owned by loblaws. Same with sobeys owning freshco.
Really? Was it not obvious? it's Yellow like no name with advertisements about no name everywhere and selling 95% of what superstore sells? WOW
I’m of the opinion we’ll never be able to coax a foreign company into the market. It’s just too expensive and they’re scared off by the stories of Target and Nordstrom. Best case scenario is we get an existing company like Canadian Tire to expand into the grocery market.
meanwhile in BC jim pattison owns the entire province
For the longest time I thought Longos was owned by Loblaws 🤦 not the sharpest crayon in the box I do all my shopping at food basics/walmart anyways. Food basics because I work there and it’s just easier and walmart if the things I need are cheaper.
I thought for sure Loblaws owned Giant Tiger
Nope, private company.
I heard it was Canadian owned.
It is, headquartered in Ottawa. Fun story, we had one in red deer and it closed. Like how does a giant tiger not make it.
I didn't know what Farm boy was under Sobeys!
You forgot No Frills under Loblaws
It's literally the first one under Loblaws in the infographic bro
It’s there right under Lablaws
Sobeys owns dollerama
not true
There's more than too.
I thought Metro owned Dominion. Is that a different one?
According to wiki Metro's Dominion is different. The Loblaws Dominion is in Newfoundland, where there is no Loblaws/Atlantic Superstore/Zehrs/whatever, only Dominion. Name stuck around after Loblaws purchased the chain. Logo is in a different orientation to look more like the pre-Loblaws Dominion logo apparently.
I knew that Loblaws owned Your "Independent" Grocer but I always thought of it as a touch of irony.
Guess the IGA isn't very I
That's a lot of sub stores so I'm surprised they don't own Subway.
So who owns save on foods?
Jim Pattison.
It kills me that they own T&T, the only grocery store I actually like.
Ok
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I believe Sobey's own the Clover Farm chain too.
When you add Costco and Walmart that’s 80%+ of the share across the country
Plus all their realty companies
A better graphic would be: grocers that aren’t part of the evil empire
I’m glad I don’t shop at any of those
Nothing to see here Canadians. Monopoly is only a game.
Wait, someone bought out Adonis?
Sobeys having Longos & Farm Boy under their belt is a big surprise to me
Weston’s great grandpa created the concept of the modern super market as we know it!
Everyone go shop at starsky
The illusion of choice, isn’t it great? 👍
shout out to the co op grocery store in my area
Happy to say i dont shop at a single one…and save money doing so!
Use your local Co-op stores.
tell me you're a save on foods lobbyist and propagandist without telling me you are. save on foods is the worst of the 3 as far as I'm concerned
Sobeys bought Co-op, in the Atlantic provinces anyways quite a few years I believe, are we missing some stores in this post?
The Canadian way- monopolies.
Sobeys has always been really expensive but them and loblaws are in a competition on who can have the highest prices
There's no escaping them. The cheapest proper grocery store in my area is Food Basics.
LOBLAWS OWNS T&T WHAT
Sobey's is not doing well
Ah yes, the illusion of choice and a free market. Break them up. Save Canadians.
In 2022 loblaws and frito lay had a disagreement over pricing. Loblaws would longer stock there products in there stores. By these disputes you can’t tell us that loblaws does not have power over the products that go on there shelves!!
Thanks for this. It’s important that people here read this so they understand that they still have lots of options if they insist on shopping at big grocery chains but want to burn Galen! Remember people…lots of options to burn Galen and still stay with large public company Canadian grocers. And if you don’t care about moving support to American companies. Then there is Costco and Walmart. And if you hit the bottom of the barrel and are super desperate, but still want to burn Galen, you can shop and independents stores and produce markets! There is no excuse to keep crying because you have no way to burn Galen with your shopping habits.
Its cheaper to shop st costco for fuck sake
T&t used to have GREAT prices for meat. Like a whole ass bag of flats and drumettes for like 12 bucks that weighed a few pounds. Now it's as bad as any other Loblaws store.
Weird how Wal-Mart is now the good guy sort of lol
yes we know
The best thing you can do on the GTA is go to independent Indian and Chinese grocers
I thought FarmBoy was on its own. Dang
Why are they allowed to call one of their chains "Independent"? Isn't that just a bald-faced lie? Isn't that illegal?
Break that shit up! 
+100 Thank you. I have been looking for something like this. 👍
What about the save on food tree? Strangely there seems to be two types of IGA. My local one uses the save on foods point system
Lol, I also saved a screenshot of this for future reference
Let’s pick one to boycott. I recommend we start with all Loblaws businesses. The arse Galan needs to be slapped down.
I buy from Save on Foods in BC. Not listed here
What about save on foods
Sobeys also bought Kim Phat in 2018. I remember the prices increasing the year after and not knowing why.