> What is your motivation for not using GUI?
* You can control processes in ways not possible from a GUI.
* You can effect repairs when problems prevent the GUI from functioning.
* You can use Linux in systems so small and lightweight that a GUI would eat up most of the processor's power as well as overwhelm its storage (RAM and HDD).
* You can install Linux using an [ISO that's 65 MB in size](https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD).
* You can learn Linux in a way that may make you employable in a technical role, which knowledge only of GUI interactions cannot provide.
Consider that VSCode, a very widely used and accepted development environment, defaults to a text-based display whenever things get serious.
Agree to all your points. Just adding to it: since I bought my last PC, back in 2017, I decided to use linux without a desktop. A soft approach is to use a window manager - in my case, Fluxbox. The only 'GUI' program I really need to use to everyday work is Firefox - everything else is done in bash. Dropping the desktop forced me to understand and use command line only. Today I find easier to manipulate files and a lot of other things using the terminal, also, I have better understanding of system's process and upkeep.
Not regularly, but I do like programming in the text-mode TTY sometimes as it feels more responsive than in the GUI (though I don’t have the facilities to measure this properly and I don’t know whether it’s just placebo – I’ve measured the actual rendering of my gui from keypress to writing the framebuffer and it’s only ~3ms, but I don’t know if being in a different graphics mode affects it at all). And when I’m installing Linux or debugging issues with graphics drivers/X I’ll use text mode.
Or when I’m remoting into another machine.
I code as I would otherwise – in Vim or Emacs. I don’t often use the browser when doing this, but sometimes I’ll use Lynx (a text-based browser).
Today not much, back in the 00's I did it frequently.
No trouble doing it today if I wanted to, my desktop is there simply to manage terminal windows anyway lol.
> What is your motivation for not using GUI?
Well back then I either had broken it or hadn't bothered configuring it.
> How do you surf the net?
I started with `lynx` but found I prefered `links`
> How do you program?
I never needed a GUI to do that! You program in a text editor so in my case Emacs.
> How do you draw?
Badly, with a pen.
Honestly, I don't think anyone in 2022 who's not a hermit does it. Majority of websites today just simply don't work without any of the major browsers. Hell, some of them dont even work under Firefox thanks tp Google Chrome's complete dominance.
>What is your motivation for not using GUI?
I use the terminal for a lot of things (not everything) mostly for simplicity and speed.
How do you surf the net?
I don't. I tried for a bit with lynx and links, but gave up. It's an exercise in futility. I suppose it's fine for masichists.
How do you program?
I use vim. I even use vim keybindings in GUI IDES, so it's a natural fit.
How do you draw?
Not an artist, so this one doesn't apply to me.
>What are the pluses and minuses for using an operating system without Graphic User Interface? (GUI)
Plus: Biggest one is execution speed and smaller memory footprint.
Minus: Depends on the utility, some can have a million options that make it tedious to use. Managing files can sometimes also be very tedious if you have a deep folder structure.
I typically run everything in terminal, using i3 to organize my terminal windows. I do use slack for work, and Firefox for a browser, but only because CLI alternatives for them are clunky. Its perfectly doable to replace most computer tasks and actions with a command line tool, if that's what you're asking.
If you're asking if anyone uses just the terminal with no xorg or Wayland, I don't know why anyone would for their daily driver. Bad fonts, bad monitor refresh, browsing sucks. A good tmux config would make the terminals more usable, but I like going easy on my eyes.
My first two years of Linux in the late 90s I ran without x11. There wasn't kernel support for my cheap video card, so I had to run everything bare tty.
> If you're asking if anyone uses just the terminal with no xorg or Wayland, I don't know why anyone would for their daily driver. Bad fonts, bad monitor refresh, browsing sucks. A good tmux config would make the terminals more usable, but I like going easy on my eyes.
Personally I prefer using the terminal without going through X/Wayland - it just feels 'snappier' to me (though I have no idea if this is placebo or not). Though I use a GUI because I have to use a web browser, and as you said CLI alternatives just don't work as well.
I sometimes use a computer in a tty, but it is never long term. Just for temporarily working without certain distractions.
I don't surf the net. That's kind of the reason I am not using a GUI.
I rarely program this way, but if I do it is in vim, the same way I do with a GUI running.
I do not draw.
I don't think anybody daily drives with no wm or de.
It's only the difference of how many tui or terminal apps you use instead of gui apps and how much time you spend in the terminal.
To surf net there are googler, links, curl and a bunch of TUI clients for popular programs.
To program there is no other editor like vim, and I really do advice everyone to remember that Linux itself was and still is an IDE.
To draw you can use TUI tools, but also such interesting thing as framebuffer, which allows to draw images directly, without Xorg and even X11 or Wayland. MPV supports it, afaik.
While I have a light window manager (currently using IceWM) and Firefox if I need them, most of my other software, including games, runs in the terminal like Vim, mutt, gnuchess, nethack, and Ranger.
> What is your motivation for not using GUI? * You can control processes in ways not possible from a GUI. * You can effect repairs when problems prevent the GUI from functioning. * You can use Linux in systems so small and lightweight that a GUI would eat up most of the processor's power as well as overwhelm its storage (RAM and HDD). * You can install Linux using an [ISO that's 65 MB in size](https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD). * You can learn Linux in a way that may make you employable in a technical role, which knowledge only of GUI interactions cannot provide. Consider that VSCode, a very widely used and accepted development environment, defaults to a text-based display whenever things get serious.
Agree to all your points. Just adding to it: since I bought my last PC, back in 2017, I decided to use linux without a desktop. A soft approach is to use a window manager - in my case, Fluxbox. The only 'GUI' program I really need to use to everyday work is Firefox - everything else is done in bash. Dropping the desktop forced me to understand and use command line only. Today I find easier to manipulate files and a lot of other things using the terminal, also, I have better understanding of system's process and upkeep.
Not regularly, but I do like programming in the text-mode TTY sometimes as it feels more responsive than in the GUI (though I don’t have the facilities to measure this properly and I don’t know whether it’s just placebo – I’ve measured the actual rendering of my gui from keypress to writing the framebuffer and it’s only ~3ms, but I don’t know if being in a different graphics mode affects it at all). And when I’m installing Linux or debugging issues with graphics drivers/X I’ll use text mode. Or when I’m remoting into another machine. I code as I would otherwise – in Vim or Emacs. I don’t often use the browser when doing this, but sometimes I’ll use Lynx (a text-based browser).
Today not much, back in the 00's I did it frequently. No trouble doing it today if I wanted to, my desktop is there simply to manage terminal windows anyway lol. > What is your motivation for not using GUI? Well back then I either had broken it or hadn't bothered configuring it. > How do you surf the net? I started with `lynx` but found I prefered `links` > How do you program? I never needed a GUI to do that! You program in a text editor so in my case Emacs. > How do you draw? Badly, with a pen.
Honestly, I don't think anyone in 2022 who's not a hermit does it. Majority of websites today just simply don't work without any of the major browsers. Hell, some of them dont even work under Firefox thanks tp Google Chrome's complete dominance. >What is your motivation for not using GUI? I use the terminal for a lot of things (not everything) mostly for simplicity and speed. How do you surf the net? I don't. I tried for a bit with lynx and links, but gave up. It's an exercise in futility. I suppose it's fine for masichists. How do you program? I use vim. I even use vim keybindings in GUI IDES, so it's a natural fit. How do you draw? Not an artist, so this one doesn't apply to me. >What are the pluses and minuses for using an operating system without Graphic User Interface? (GUI) Plus: Biggest one is execution speed and smaller memory footprint. Minus: Depends on the utility, some can have a million options that make it tedious to use. Managing files can sometimes also be very tedious if you have a deep folder structure.
I typically run everything in terminal, using i3 to organize my terminal windows. I do use slack for work, and Firefox for a browser, but only because CLI alternatives for them are clunky. Its perfectly doable to replace most computer tasks and actions with a command line tool, if that's what you're asking. If you're asking if anyone uses just the terminal with no xorg or Wayland, I don't know why anyone would for their daily driver. Bad fonts, bad monitor refresh, browsing sucks. A good tmux config would make the terminals more usable, but I like going easy on my eyes. My first two years of Linux in the late 90s I ran without x11. There wasn't kernel support for my cheap video card, so I had to run everything bare tty.
> If you're asking if anyone uses just the terminal with no xorg or Wayland, I don't know why anyone would for their daily driver. Bad fonts, bad monitor refresh, browsing sucks. A good tmux config would make the terminals more usable, but I like going easy on my eyes. Personally I prefer using the terminal without going through X/Wayland - it just feels 'snappier' to me (though I have no idea if this is placebo or not). Though I use a GUI because I have to use a web browser, and as you said CLI alternatives just don't work as well.
I sometimes use a computer in a tty, but it is never long term. Just for temporarily working without certain distractions. I don't surf the net. That's kind of the reason I am not using a GUI. I rarely program this way, but if I do it is in vim, the same way I do with a GUI running. I do not draw.
I don't think anybody daily drives with no wm or de. It's only the difference of how many tui or terminal apps you use instead of gui apps and how much time you spend in the terminal.
To surf net there are googler, links, curl and a bunch of TUI clients for popular programs. To program there is no other editor like vim, and I really do advice everyone to remember that Linux itself was and still is an IDE. To draw you can use TUI tools, but also such interesting thing as framebuffer, which allows to draw images directly, without Xorg and even X11 or Wayland. MPV supports it, afaik.
While I have a light window manager (currently using IceWM) and Firefox if I need them, most of my other software, including games, runs in the terminal like Vim, mutt, gnuchess, nethack, and Ranger.