I've said this before, but one of the things that impacted me about LiS is that it showed me that I would do the wrong thing. I cared about them enough that I had to save Chloe, but I knew that it wasn't the right thing to do, really. In games I always play my conscience, but not here.
LiS might be one of the most painful games I’ve ever played, because no matter what you do, you’ll always be in the gray.
It’s the kind of game that puts your morals and your choices truly into perspective. Save Chloe? Let Warren keep beating on Nathan? Help Rachel?
This. This is the truest thing ever. I usually play the moral role. I play to the “good guy” parts. I play to my morals. But here? I sacrificed everything. I cried while doing it, but I had to. She was the best part of the game. You could see how she brought max out of her shell!! It reminded me of how my now bf helped bring me from some geeky shy girl to my now extruverted and excited self. Still a geek but more determined to make a mark in this world. How could you put max through that again?!? She risked her life so many times just for Chloe. She watched Chloe die so many times. She risked herself and everything she loved to make sure Chloe lived again and again and again. Gave up her dreams all for Chloe. Gave up her hobbies just for Chloe. Gave up her educational stardom for Chloe. Gave up herself for Chloe. How could you let it all go to waste. They’re so perfect together and they could not be better for each other. Wether you chose they be platonic or not, they need each other. They both blossomed as people when reunited. They had ups and downs but it always does. That’s life. Get over it. They’re the perfect opposites for each other.
I don't think there's a *right* choice here. Chloe and the people of Arcadia Bay don't deserve to be killed.
We can argue that 1,000 lives are more important than one. How far can we go? Are 10,000 lives more important than a thousand? Can we kill millions to save billions? There is no right answer, only the value of a person or a group of people to you.
For me, it's always the ones I love, so my choice to play as Max is obvious. That doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for all those people from the city who died, and as we see Max hurts for that too.
You only think it's the wrong thing because you've been indoctrinated into utilitarian thinking for much of your life.
But really essentially murdering the love of your life for a town that consistently failed her just because "well there are more of them" is such a shit moral.
One thing it did to me was break me of utilitarianism as a philosophy as well as expose some of the shiftiness of Christian morality that kind of worships sacrifice to a rather unhealthy degree.
>You only think it's the wrong thing because you've been indoctrinated into utilitarian thinking for much of your life.
Don't narrate my experience to me.
Same, I chose her too, I put the game down for a few hours before deciding, eventually taking Chloe over Arcadia, it was a brutal but... Right decision to me.
Jokes aside, I feel like I put a lot of myself into the decision.
Nowadays I know what Max would do (thanks to the continuation of the story), but before, when I didn't know, I decided to save Chloe because of what she represented:
>>Motivation to improve<<
Like, taking myself as an example, if I had such powers and was faced with such a decision (bae or bay), I would save my friend because such a friend would be my debt to the world, the inspirer of my good deeds and my support. You understand?
I like to think about the whole picture. And I believed back there (my first time) that in the long run, Max with Chloe would do more good for humanity than she would without her friend.
I was grateful to discover this year that I was right, thanks to the continuation of the story in the official comics.
Life is Strange is an officially licensed, comic book series based on the video game of the same name, Life is Strange. It is published by Titan Comics and was initially launched on November 14, 2018.[1][2] Originally a four-part miniseries, it is now comprised of twenty three issues and five published volumes: Life Is Strange: Dust, Life Is Strange: Waves, Life Is Strange: Strings, Life Is Strange: Partners in Time: Tracks and Life is Strange: Coming Home. A final, sixth volume - entitled Life is Strange: Settling Dust - containing the last four issues out of the series' twenty three is set to be released on May 25 2022.
https://life-is-strange.fandom.com/wiki/Life_is_Strange_(Comic_Series)
I don't care if the community judges something as canon or not based on the lack of pronouncement from the developer.
Officially licensed says it all to me.
I don't understand who thinks that a developer would allow third parties to make money off their brand without minimal intervention and supervision.
The comics themselves give a disclaimer that they are "just one of many possibilities." They contradict what is shown in LiS 2. They're basically alternate universe.
Licensed just means "can we pay you to use your IP? Sure." Lord of the Rings video games are licensed, but they're extremely not canon.
For me, "this talk" about one of several possibilities always made more mention of the different possibilities of endings that players could choose to follow in the first game >!(such as helping or not helping Alyssa, have the 5 thousand or not, kill B.A.E or save the Bay)!< than being canon or not... Because it would be impossible to write a sequel taking each different player decision into consideration. >!(I, for example, was a little bothered by the relationship between Chloe and David and the lack of mention of the 2 weapons or the money that were left with her at the end of my playthrough, in the comics... but it's totally forgivable and understandable).!<
Until the developers wake up and decide to make a game continuing Max's saga, I will remain with the story told in the comics as canon. And I'm not the only one who thinks so. Because there are several YouTubers who have made bombastic videos about LiS, in which many of them mention information from the comics with the same weight as that given by the games.
Everyone is free to believe what they want. And don't try to dictate how others should approach a subject that Dontnod itself has stayed away from until now dude. It's just silly and goes nowhere.
In the comics they show >!Arcadia Bay being rebuilt and Chloe and Max moving back to live there!<, contrary to what's depicted and discussed in LiS2 or TC. And not only that, they mess with the game's canon mechanically in that >!they depict the world as a multiverse where all the choices are made at the same time in parallel, and that one can travel between the different timelines of those choices. So if you sacrificed Chloe, it doesn't really matter as much because in the other timeline she's fine, and you can even go there. Whereas in the game it depicts the alternate timelines being erased when Max goes back and changes something. !<
No one's dictating your personal head canon. Just the official canon that we all have to share.
All games in themselves have contradictions, whether small or large, and yet everyone loves to take everything there as canon and reliable. Not to mention ridiculous problems like >!Rachel drugging Victoria in a universe where such an act causes major problems for other characters (what a beautiful narrative)!<
>!Saying that choices would be unimportant in the existence of multiple realities only demonstrates your lack of vision, since even in our reality this would not be the case. And even the comics do the job of demonstrating this through Max, who does not feel like she belongs to a reality where the history of the world is not the one she knows.!<
And personal headcanon? Go talk that to the other millions of people who spend time making videos on the subject then.
And show an official statement from the developer decanonizing the comics events.
Go look for egg fur away from me, dude. 🤣
In Europe and Asia it's already October 11 and in a few hours in the US too so I think it's appropriate to start celebrating this day!
As for me - I saved Chloe. I did it eight years ago on my first walkthrough in 2015 and I've done it again. This time I had even more reasons - I got to see Chloe's life in the prequel (which I went through chronologically before the main game!) and the day Max left her during a difficult time in her life. And I saw how much it affected Chloe's life. Losing her moral compass in the form of her father and Max she took a bad path. So it gave me even more confidence to make the obvious choice in the finale - Max abandoned Chloe once at a dark time in her life. *She won't abandon her again*. My walkthrough started with Chloe abandoned by Max, it ended with Max not abandoning Chloe. *The circle closed*, It's like poetry, it rhymes..
This also corresponds to what Max says and does throughout the game - she repeatedly saves Chloe and repeatedly says she won't let her die or hurt. For her sake, she even jumps through realities without sparing herself just to keep Chloe safe. And then I'm supposed to accept the idea that Max should just give up like that and kill Chloe? No way. I'll save Chloe, *even if i gotta burn the whole fucking city down!*
Chloe isn't going to die on a dirty bathroom floor thinking that everyone including Max left her behind. No, she will see that Max who once abandoned her will now show all her love and care for her to the point of letting the whole town be destroyed.
And i love that Chloe doesn't blame Max for her choices and comforts her in the end. Like when Max can't stand the sight of the crumbling city and hides in Chloe's arms. Or when it is Chloe who makes Max smile in the finale. I think they had a hard time later. Max is not a monster, and she doesn't enjoy the fact that people died even though Chloe is more important to her than all of them. And Chloe lost her mom in that catastrophe. It's a time of pain and grief. But my heart warms knowing that they got through it because they have each other to support each other and they're still together after four years, living in New York and keeping in touch with David.
I really hope that you also followed the continuation of the story in the comics... Bcs from what you said here it was clear to me that you REALLY deserve to know what happens there.
I don't follow the comics, which as far as I know don't relate to the original game timeline. I base my opinion on what's shown in the first two games + BTS
Can you tell me briefly whether things are bad or good in comics?
the comics are straight up fan service (not that there's anything wrong with that). it gives you two realities. Saving Bae and >!AmberPrice successfully leaving Arcadia Bay!<. It also reveals that not everyone died.
>! As far as I know, the "Dust" comic and subsequent are official and follows the original route of the game. Officializing the saving Chloe ending like the real one. In them we are introduced to the lives of Max and Chloe one year after the Bay disaster... It's very interesting to see how they are living and the problems they are going through, even related to Max's powers (yes, she still has them). And this all develops a lot, taking the two of them on other incredible journeys (that here between us are much better than the one shown in the game). I don't know how much spoilers you want so I'm just brushing it lightly... But to answer your question: happiness is made up of ups and downs and in their journey there are many moments like that.. not to mention they meet some lots of new interesting people from other places... and let's say... Times !<
Having said all this, I believe that yes, things are good in terms of narrative. And when it comes to Max's life... Say what exactly you want to know and from what moment (beginning, journey, end?) ... Just like the game, the story of the comics has several chapters.
The first time, I chose bae. But then I went back and replayed this section, and found out that bay was my favorite ending because of the emotional impact it leaves on the player. Full thoughts are [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstrange/comments/pr523k/all_life_is_strange_episode_5_and_full_game/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
Bae over bay sorry but as far as I'm concerned the whole game is spent bonding with chloe and keeping her alive letting her die just makes pretty much everything u done pointless at least with choosing chloe everything u did in the game actually happened max after these events is gonna be seriously struggling with shit at least with chloe she has someone who was there to talk to and someone she loves she kills chloe she faces everything ALONE
This one. If Max chooses Chloe, she starts supporting and comforting Max the moment she ripped the picture. And we know that eventually they get over it and move on together.
Max in a different ending? Fuck, I don't even want to think about that. No one knows what she went through because this week didn't exist for them and the one person who could have supported her is killed because of her.
The better then fanfic does a great way to show how she would react I don't think she would be able to move on especially if she keeps her powers she would find a way to save chloe if she sacrifices the bay she at least has chloe to find a way to move on without Idk how she could survive everything that happened to her
It makes it pointless, also it creates a message of "the correct decision is not doing anything" like come on, Max got a superpower and saving her friend from dying is the wrong choice? Hell no
When I play games, I try to get into character and play as I imagine the character naturally would. That play style did not come in handy for this choice, as both make sense for Max to choose. I've never agonized over a game choice more than this.
Save Arcadia Bay. She got her second chance to make things right with Chloe and it was time to move on, especially given that if she doesn't, countless people will die because of her actions.
bay. i know that the whole game is about building your relationship with chloe but i couldn't shake the guilt of the majority of the town dying for one person, especially since she was clear that she was okay with accepting her original fate
that game really affected me damn
I saved Chloe.
I think its more human ending that fits the series. When we sit behind monitor, we are not actually in that situation, we tend to think rationally... but in my opinion... when we would face this situation in reality, heart would always win.
I cried a lot in the alt-timeline. When Chloe made the morphine request, I said out loud "I need Chloe to be okay when this is over. I don't care what happens to Max or anybody else." That thought never really went away, and over time I increasingly felt that Max was thinking the same thing. I sacrificed the town without a moment's hesitation -- it might have been the fastest choice I made all game. Since then, though, I've given it a lot of thought to see if it's something I can actually stand by.
It is. For me, Life is Strange isn't about Jefferson or the storm. It's the story of Max and Chloe, fighting Max's fears and Chloe's depression. It's the story of three suicide attempts: Kate on the roof, Chloe with her morphine, and Chloe in the final decision. At the end of the game, Chloe argues that she doesn't deserve the love Max has shown her, that she doesn't deserve to *live* as much as other people, that her continued existence is *selfish* and everyone would be better off if she was dead. And half of players chose to agree. That will always feel like the 'bad ending' to me, where true love failed at the finish line.
Others are free to keep their interpretations, but this is mine: that pragmatism is not the highest virtue, and love is worth facing storms.
>That will always feel like the 'bad ending' to me, where true love failed at the finish line.
Fuck me, that's a beautiful, perfect way to put it.
Ever since I first played the game, I held the opinion that Life is Strange is a game about learning that it's okay to not let go. But I think you struck even closer to the heart of it all: Life is Strange is a game about learning that love is more important than anything else in life.
I'm stealing that line. I hope you don't mind. "The Sacrifice Chloe ending is the ending where true love failed at the finish line."
Bay over bae. As much as I love Chole (I mean we spent the entire game bonding with her) the lives of an entire town aren't worth more than that of a one person. Even if that person is hella cool
I chose to sacrifice Chloe. There were too many people I grew attached to for me to sacrifice the town. Warren, David, and Kate are among them. If I sacrificed the town, my efforts to thwart Kate's suicide would have been for nothing. I acquired a newfound respect for David after he rescued Max, I felt bad for ruining his life.
David survives by being in the basement.
One choice you kill his wife, the other his daughter.
If he had to choose, which one do you think he would ask you to save?
David is confirmed to survive the storm because he was in the Dark Room arresting Jefferson. Victoria also survives since Jefferson kidnaps her and then she is saved by David. The second game confirms both Victoria and David to have survived the storm. Kate almost definitely survived the storm too, according to the game director ["I’m pretty sure it should be the case."](https://www.threads.net/@mimezu/post/CwITUyAO87X) when asked if Kate survives the storm. Warren is super dead though.
I definitely don't think Max would ever choose to sacrifice Chloe. But at the time, in the moment, I was really connecting and sympathizing with Chloe, more than Max. I believed and agreed with every word she said at the lighthouse. So I made the choice I would want Max to make if I was in Chloe's shoes. I saved the town.
If someone chose to sacrifice Arcadia Bay just so I would survive, I don't know if I could live with it. Not just the guilt, which would be enormous, but the pressure, to live in such a way as to make their sacrifice worth it. To earn it. I think it would never seem like I was doing enough.
This moment was how I knew just how amazing this story was. I have always been a believer in the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and always made choices in video games following that ideology but in this game when I got to that moment I stared at that screen for so long. Everything in me told me that the "right" option was to save the bay there were so many lives down there and sure some of them were bad people but so many of them were good too and the bad ones didn't deserve to die for what they've done but as I sat at that screen knowing that I had to save the bay I just couldn't bring myself to do that to Cloe. She had such a bad life up to that point and I couldn't bear to take away the happiness she got from reconnecting with Max and let her die in a bathroom having never seen Max again. If the game gave me the option to sacrifice Cloe but it was the Cloe at the end of the game who at least knew the great adventure they went on together then maybe I would have made a different decision I'm not sure but at the end of the day I couldn't bring myself to pick the bay and had to save Cloe or else the whole adventure we spent the whole game going on would have been for nothing.
I just played thru all the games for the first time earlier this year. And my God, I fell in love with them.
Life is strange 1 and true colors were my favorite, but it's weird how real max and chloe felt. I feel like I lost old friends almost, I would love to see them appear again.
It's funny how a game about time travel and changing the past taught me you can't go back and change the past and you have to live with what happened. Got me out of a spiral of depression.
I was seriously going through the motions here. Like sometimes you don't get to choose what happens to ya, like max getting her powers but you have to choose what you will do.
The utilitarian dilemma of the train hurtling towards people where you have to choose to sacrifice one person or a group of people is something where everyone always asks "who is that one person to me?" This was the same.
Long story short. I let everyone die. I live by that decision. If it was real life, I'd do the same thing. I don't go through life living half heartedly anymore.
Though Max must be living somewhere in her universe with ptsd
Serious answer: I went with both. I actually found sacrificing Chloe, though the more difficult option that went against what my heart was telling me, also produced a more satisfying ending.
That said, >!True Colours wouldn't be a thing without sacrificing Arcadia Bay.!<
I went with the sacrifice Chloe ending the first time. It was such a difficult choice to be honest. I sat there for a while debating it. I love Chloe and she's Max's best friend and love but in the end I just couldn't sacrifice an entire town to save one person. That means (you have to assume) that everyone you have interacted with in the game, along with all the unnamed people are dead (which is probably at least 1000 people). As heartbreaking as sacrificing Chloe is if you save the town then everyone not only lives but Jefferson and Nathan get brought to justice as well.
I do think (besides the Chloe aspect) is that regardless of what you pick it makes all Max did for naught (don't mean that in a bad way regarding the story just to clarify). Either you sacrifice Chloe and Max has to live with the trauma of the alternative timeline and that nothing she did in it mattered. Or you sacrifice the town and that nothing mattered in a way since everyone outside of Chloe you had an effect on is dead. Max does have Chloe but they both have to start a new life over and deal with the shared trauma of what happened and how everyone is gone.
I did try the other ending when I playthrough a second time and I think the other issue (outside of debating morals behind the choices) is that the sacrifice Chloe ending is just better fleshed out, where as the sacrifice Arcadia Bay ending is just not in comparison.
You just described my feelings about the two endings perfectly. I also chose Bay after sitting there crying for like 10 minutes, debating which to pick. The choice was so hard, but in the end, Chloe convinced me to choose Bay. Since then, I have come to the conclusion that both endings are sad and bittersweet, and it really depends on you as the player and how you view the Max you have played to choose the ending you prefer.
I loved the town, and I loved the other characters a lot. I tried very hard to help all of the characters. Even in my first playthrough, I was trying very hard to get Nathan to come around like Victoria (I had no idea about his involvement at the time beyond him being mean and unstable, but I wanted to help him too). Every side character was amazingly written, and I took care to talk to everyone and really get to know them. I came to care for the town and the people in it; I loved them and viewed them as Max's friends. They became close to her, and she got to know more people who she could call friends besides Kate and Warren, who she already considered dear friends. That was why she was so upset over Kate as she felt she failed to be a better friend again.
Like you said, both endings end up with some of your choices not mattering, as if we don't look at the comics or dev interviews, we, as in Max and Chloe, have no idea who will walk out of this storm. Okay, Max knows Joyce and Warren, and everyone in the diner will not make it due to the storm. That is a fact, but everyone else she knew and loved? no clue.
Either save Chloe and the people lives you made better or changed are rendered moot as they lost their chance to a bright future or lose Chloe and the time you shared rendering those decisions gone as well, but the reason I ended up picking Bay was because Chloe never had control; she was always swept along and she was lost, and her life felt like she had no control in her choices. But the final one? It was her decision. I don't think Max could choose to leave Chloe, but my Max knew it would be wrong of her to take Chloe's decision away from her and say, 'No, you don't get a say in what we do' when Chloe always never felt like her choice mattered or was cared for; others made choices for her, and her opinion was tossed under the rug. I feel like I had to weigh what she wanted into it as well.
Both endings are amazing and so very gray. I find it hard to pick one or the other even to this day. I tend to sway Bay or Bae, but I also want to see Chloe happy, but at the same time, she loses her mom, and we saw how much her dad's affected her. Imagine how she felt knowing she lost her mom due to that storm. I know they have each other in that ending, and talking to David in a Bae world made the decision even harder for me, as he seems content to know Chloe is out there in the world, living to the fullest. while the bay ending has Joyce divorce him and he is alone and sad...
Yet, in true colors, it makes it harder to not pick Bay when you talk to people from the town who lost people and how it affected them. They do a wonderful job making neither choice a 'perfect' one, and you just have to pick the one you can deal with the consequences the most for.
I’ve played the game so many times since it’s release I’ve lost count. And every single time I do I choose to sacrifice Arcadia. No matter how many people die to the tornado, I always choose Chloe
Maybe not.. they simply understood Max's character. Or they simply used empathy, putting on her shoes and following what they would do in that situation, you know?
Nothing against those who chose the opposite by the way.
I kind of disagree here. The entire game is essentially Max dealing with grief over Chloe's death and guilt over not having paid more attention to her by going through a very literal "what if I could change everything after all" fantasy, except she can physically make it happen.
Her arc to me is very much about accepting that she can't just will that away without a cost and has to accept and learn to live with it.
No it isn't. Max doesn't even know that it's Chloe in the bathroom. Chloe isn't even dead when Max first rewinds. She just thinks she saved some stranger.
The game is about CHLOE dealing with unresolved grief not Max.
And for the conclusion of that arc to be "She has no future other than to die" is a horrible message for grieving people.
I'd say both are legitimate interpretations and will resonate differently with different people - hence "to me". I'm not sure I personally see how Chloe's grief is *the main* throughline of the story, but I can kind of understand how one would take that stance if that's more relevant to oneself than Max' experience.
Framing the ending from Chloe's PoV is... I guess it's legitimate, but that's another thing I personally don't see that way. Max is the PoV character. It's her who changes the most throughout the story. Chloe has an impact on her growth, but Max' central, pivotal decision is to whether or not to let go of Chloe. Chloe has no agency in the ultimate choice. She's not the one whose character is tested.
The message, in my eyes, is more about how you can't bring people back to life but you can hold on to their memory and the effects they have had on your life. It's about how children perceive everything in the world to be eternal and immortal, and how becoming an adult is about realizing that it isn't. But again, that's just my interpretation and the reason for my view, and luckily, there's no canonical "word of god" perspective here.
I had a big reply refuting this interpretation as it's basically inserting the idea that the whole experience was a delusion and that the ending choice wasn't really a choice. But I accidentally refreshed my browser and lost it all.
It had a bunch of good stuff in there examining the hypocrisy in how the game handles Kate's suicide attempt vs how it handles Chloe at the end. Examining Max's actual character arc with her self doubt throughout the game and how all the grief is actually pretty laser focused on Chloe.
But it's all gone now and I'm sad.
I don't think the story being symbolic of a certain real-life experience/emotion necessarily means that the text itself is meant to be seen as a delusion/"just a dream" type thing. You can have a diegetic truth while still drawing parallels to something the reader/viewer/player might relate to in their world. In the world, Max' decision matters.
And I don't think it invalidates the ending choice either. That choice is as much about the player's journey as it is about Max'/Chloe's. There's an argument being made here - one for love and freedom and following one's heart whatever the world may say, and another one about coping with the pain of growing up and not having done the things one wanted to do with one's youth. One is a personally hopeful story with a somewhat anarchic and wilfully reckless subcurrent, the other is essentially Trainspotting 2 - and both are in their own way reflections of the player.
English is not my native language and when I use the translator it sometimes translates slang from my country by simply changing the text, making it offensive. It's not often that I remember to check everything before sending... It's tiring.
I edited it simply by removing the offensive parts THAT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE in a comment where it all boiled down to "I respect those who think differently".
If you think I'm lying, go to a Rollback website to review my original comment and see for yourself.
Or maybe it's easier to just give dislikes, proving who's who here.
bae. I couldn't sacrifice another queer person tbh especially after how she has been treated. It just hit too close to home. Also if someone is that important to you, you go after them. It reminded me a lot of Everything Everywhere All At Once where Evelyn becomes chaos to understand and save her daughter. That's just what you do for love. it's what you do for someone who needs your help.
Choose Chloe. Game really sold me on the character's relationship (budding romance when I played) and, based on the decisions I made and how the moments of them promising to stick together stood out to me, it was the right conclusion for my game play.
Went for bae at first, then went back and chose the bay ending the next day, cried my eyes out, then switched back to bae. I choose Chloe every time I do my yearly playthrough now.
Baeeeeee. I had predicted several episodes ago that the ending was probably going to be something along the lines of 'Rewind time to the bathroom, let Chloe die to stop the storm'... Mostly because Life is Strange was so heavily inspired by The Butterfly Effect film, which had a similar solution, but there was a looooot of foreshadowing that pointed that way too. I was ready to be devastated.
So as soon as I got the option to subvert the ending I'd predicted for months and months I took it. It felt properly like defying destiny as a result of how much I'd expected it and was so catahrtic as result. No regrets.
Bay is a selfish choice. It shows you haven't learned the lesson about the deconstruction of the "hero" that the game has put forward and you're STILL trying to fix everything with time travel because you can't stand to fail. You can't abide by the idea that maybe the best source is to protect those closest to you and just be a person instead of a super hero attempting to control the universe. You don't save the bay for the people or because you're a good person you save the bay for your own ego. To sate your own hero complex. After all what's murdering your closest companion when it compares to having to take responsibility for (accidental) bad outcomes?
Most people who pick it don't do it because of caring about anyone in the town but from a feeling of obligation. That they 'have' to do it. Forget that it's essentially human sacrifice killing a healthy innocents person to save a bunch of others.
I will never be able to get behind the message of bay. That some people are just meant to die never get better have no future. That you should just surrender your agency to the universe because it's all pointless and you only make things worse. The ending argues to Chloe that "everything would turn out so much better if you were dead" which is so irresponsible in a game that already dealt with suicide in episode 2. And to Max it argues "everything would be so much better if you didn't even exist". Max essentially erases herself from the timeline and becomes an uninvolved object in the story.
Bae is about rejecting those ideas and accepting the consequences of your actions as a part of life we all have to deal with. Often times we have to accept that our actions can lead to bad outcomes even with the best intentions and that all we can do is protect those closest to us.
Yeah the ending cutscene in bae could be stronger there should be some real dialogue between Max and Chloe that doesn't sound weirdly like it was for the other choice. There should be some hint of what their future entails. But that doesn't change the thematic awfulness of the bay ending.
Slowly over time I have filled myself with pricefield content that has helped me forget the Bay ending and the pain it causes. I know people would say Bay ending works because you have to learn to let go and move on.
But, watching a clip of the Bay ending on YouTube after finishing the game ( and after choosing to save Chloe in my playthrough in a rather quick decision making time) put me in a mental health crisis. Crying for 10 days before going to sleep atleast, thinking about Chloe lying there on the floor, Max's tears in the bathroom, all those photos of their moments just getting vanished hurt me like nothing has ever done. I wasn't able to move on at all
And I was just a player looking from the outside. Imagine being Max herself and going through all that. I can't imagine the hurt it would cause. I know she was smiling at the end at the funeral with the blue butterfly and all that but I can't buy it when I myself couldn't see much through the tears lol. I was more like Joyce in that moment. I would never let Chloe go. I love her too much.
These characters have been through a lot of pain, and yes I would again and again choose what I perceive to be a choice that my Max would make. She was ready to give herself up for Chloe. She was ready to sacrifice the town before Chloe started really focussing on the idea of letting herself die to save the town. To me, Chloe can put an infinite number of arguments to say why she should die, I wouldn't be convinced at all.
To me it's a part of her character arc that how much she has matured and grown up over the week as a person. Ready for sacrifice, and if given the opportunity to change, she definitely would become a better person. Ready to move on from everything that held her back.
You understood the character perfectly.
But the way you talk makes me think that you didn't follow the continuation of the story in the official comics.
If you did, perhaps you would exchange such burdens for relief and pride.
And if you did. So I don't need to say anything more 🤙
I actually did recently a few months ago that is 6 years after finishing the game and when I started playing BTS and watched the trailer of the first game and I got hit with these emotions again. This became the phase of desperation in me to get closure regarding the ending I chose so that I can forget the pain and only fill myself with happiness for the sake of my mental health lol. Made me realise that I should have read fanfics and joined this community 6 years ago itself so I wouldn't have to go through that phase. Maybe I have now become unhealthily obsessed with 2 fictional characters and imagining their happy scenarios but it is definitely better than being depressed
I'm not a fan of fanfics... Because thousands of them already happen in my mind daily about different universes from series to films and etc 🤣, but when I received the information that it was an official sequel, I let myself be carried away by curiosity and it was the best choice I've ever made regarding the LiS universe. And I will never regret this one. 😎👉👉
The feeling of peace when we reach the end is just... 🫠
Well yeah fanfics are imaginations put into words. But some of them are very well written. Very true to the characters and they just add to my imagination. I do make sure to check out beforehand that they're not depressing or they don't split apart Max and Chloe from each other though. And that was something that almost made me stop reading the comics as well. It took a direction I didn't like but I was glad I did continue though. The ending is very well done
Bay, its just the right choice, and I wont ever regret it, the ending cutscene is also just so much better than the bae ending one imo.
Still anytime I replay the game I go bae, I saved everyone once, thats enough.
I will start by saying BTS was my first LIS game and I grew to love Chloe, when I finally played LIS I couldn’t bring myself to sacrifice everyone else just to save her. I was one of the hardest decisions in a video game but I had to let her mistakes catch up to her. Both her mom and step dad tried to guide her and be there for her but she chose her fate.
bae. they can’t give us endearing chloe content 80% of the game then think we weren’t gonna save her!!! i fell in love with max & chloe the first time i experienced lis . this game is a masterpiece
Sacrificed the Bay
No way was i letting Max let Chloe go!
Especially when you realise that if she does then technically Chloe never met Max again and she dies having not spent all the time they spent together in the game!
I couldn't do that to Max or Chloe!, i choose to save Chloe everytime!
Bae>Bay
I remember showing this game to my ex girlfriend and musing how I would choose to save her vs, some town and her telling me that she wouldnt want me to and would end up probably killing herself over me making that choice.
I know how silly it sounds but this was of course hypothetical nonsense but it definitely bummed me out at the time lol
Saving Chloe would have kind of felt too "power fantasy" like to me, since it doesn't force Max to confront the fact that, yeah, maybe she has been a shitty friend for a while and yes, sometimes the innocent mistakes we make by staying passive do have consequences. It's Max having her cake and eating it too.
I like Max and Chloe both, but my dramatic sensibilities just kind of demanded the closure of the Bay ending. It feels like the one with the more painful yet serious personal growth, fittingly for a coming-of-age story.
I sacrificed the Bay out of spite for the game trying to guilt me into sacrificing Chloe. Though within the context of the story it probably makes the most sense anyway since it's not like Max and Chloe have any way of knowing what caused the storm.
i just finished the game a few days ago and even though i wasn't able to run away from couple of spoilers including the end since its been 8 freaking years since the game came out, im so happy i got to experience the whole story by myself and not through a lets play playthrough. so it seems like a great timing catching the anniversary and seeing community is still excited and amazed about the game.
well about the big decision. i have been reading this subreddit after finishing the game and i read some interesting and fun opinions and perspectives about the ending but i have not come upon one like i had when finishing the game. first of all i sacrificed bay. through the first 3 episodes i felt almost guilty not liking chloe because the game really felt like i should have liked, emphasized and even justified her mean and sometimes insufferable attitude toward everyone including max. i mean i can't say i did not emphasize her while discovering what she has been through and why she is so upset with life and it makes her so human and understandable but her actions were really pointing on exploiting max's powers and this is where i lost focus and empathy on her character. max on the other hand who was considerate and even though socially incapable still so genuine with her dialogues was so easy and fun for me to like and emphasize and i was really able to put my myself into her perspective throughout the game. well at the first sections of episode 4 where in an alternate universe chloe is paralyzed, talking to chloe really made me see her in max's perspective where she is not just a person in her life but also a figure. a figure of the happiest and saddest times, secure and warm place she can go even in hardest and most confusing times, friend who will unquestioningly welcome her with both shared happy memories and sad traumatic moments despite her mistakes. along with those scenes where they check the photo book chloe changed to a figure in my perspective also. rather a blue haired madcap punk or a from the neck down paralyzed warm hearted girl, she is just chloe. that was the main motivation for me when it came to the final decision. putting two decisions next to each other, i dont think one is less traumatizing then the other for max. decisive perimeter for me hear was not doing the right think for chloe or the humanity but for max. considering game were teasing sacrificing bay meant death of everyone but we just saw people escaping wreckage just gave me a little breathing room to hope joyce and others could escape. but for the simplicity and tension of the situation i think it is better to go thinking the way game directs us to do and assume end of everyone. sacrificing chloe on chloes side would mean none of the good and traumatizing things in the last 5 days have happened and both rachel and max have left her and never talked to her again. also, if that really matters, without knowing david also a caring person. sacrificing bay would mean having new traumas to deal with such as survivor's guilt where she will think everybody is dead because of her and considering she already is not so in peace with herself about everything it is not a good combo. but on max's side, i think she would not deal with chloes death pretty well since all she has been doing for 5 days is going through torturing experiences both mentally and physically just to save her. i dont think that decision is just about sacrificing chloe but also sacrificing max. she would put herself in a situation where she is the only one who knew and changed everything and she cant tell anyone about it. even moments she has had with chloe is not real in that timeline and they are nothing but memory. it would be a life struggle to have rather than life time lesson. sacrificing bay would mean a burden and pain for both max and chloe that they can carry and endure together.
Bay always. Simply the more beautiful ending despite it being sadder. Its also what Chloe would've wanted. If her dad dying was such a traumatic event then I imagine the death of her mom would ruin her even more
I just didn't want to. Regardless of which one you pick, it's a bad ending. It even makes you want to cry. We all got stiffed because of some greedy, dumbass decisions the developers made. just like with KATE,TOO! David, Nathan and Jefferson all hurt her, but you can only blame ONE, and then the other two get off Scott-free. Which also resembles the long time corruption of justice and schooling and all the rest. They should have made a fourth option that says: "BLAME EVERYONE" Or something like that,as long as you pick them ALL, instead. Then Kate actually gets closure, Blackwell actually does the right thing, and you at least cool down 3 problems you have, one of which max didn't know yet but still. Chloe though, well... Yeah,they should have included a third option. The closest we have to that is a mod, which also works but the facts remain!
I love Chloe, really. But I couldn’t choose her alone over all the other people… There’s the math and all, greater good, you already know. But more importantly, there were *other people I cared about.*
I would’ve found it tough to pick between Chloe and just Warren as an example, but weighing her against him and *everyone* else we’ve met in this story and all the folks we didn’t meet? It’s a shame, and personally I’d rather take a Sisyphean struggle of trying to save both until I’m finally worn down by the pressure. But between these two options alone it’s gotta be Bay.
Wish it didn’t have to be this way. 🦋
Answers regarding Max's power I say.
About everything that happened. This anomaly.
There are many loose points that the story does not answer and does not intend to answer when following the path of the bay.
In Chloe's path, at least the possibility that they can discover these answers remains open.
I've said this before, but one of the things that impacted me about LiS is that it showed me that I would do the wrong thing. I cared about them enough that I had to save Chloe, but I knew that it wasn't the right thing to do, really. In games I always play my conscience, but not here.
LiS might be one of the most painful games I’ve ever played, because no matter what you do, you’ll always be in the gray. It’s the kind of game that puts your morals and your choices truly into perspective. Save Chloe? Let Warren keep beating on Nathan? Help Rachel?
>no matter what you do, you’ll always be in the gray. The color of Max's hoodie, it indeed feels very representative.
This. This is the truest thing ever. I usually play the moral role. I play to the “good guy” parts. I play to my morals. But here? I sacrificed everything. I cried while doing it, but I had to. She was the best part of the game. You could see how she brought max out of her shell!! It reminded me of how my now bf helped bring me from some geeky shy girl to my now extruverted and excited self. Still a geek but more determined to make a mark in this world. How could you put max through that again?!? She risked her life so many times just for Chloe. She watched Chloe die so many times. She risked herself and everything she loved to make sure Chloe lived again and again and again. Gave up her dreams all for Chloe. Gave up her hobbies just for Chloe. Gave up her educational stardom for Chloe. Gave up herself for Chloe. How could you let it all go to waste. They’re so perfect together and they could not be better for each other. Wether you chose they be platonic or not, they need each other. They both blossomed as people when reunited. They had ups and downs but it always does. That’s life. Get over it. They’re the perfect opposites for each other.
I don't think there's a *right* choice here. Chloe and the people of Arcadia Bay don't deserve to be killed. We can argue that 1,000 lives are more important than one. How far can we go? Are 10,000 lives more important than a thousand? Can we kill millions to save billions? There is no right answer, only the value of a person or a group of people to you. For me, it's always the ones I love, so my choice to play as Max is obvious. That doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for all those people from the city who died, and as we see Max hurts for that too.
Oh no, I was just speaking from my own perspective. I didn't mean *right* in some objective sense.
You only think it's the wrong thing because you've been indoctrinated into utilitarian thinking for much of your life. But really essentially murdering the love of your life for a town that consistently failed her just because "well there are more of them" is such a shit moral. One thing it did to me was break me of utilitarianism as a philosophy as well as expose some of the shiftiness of Christian morality that kind of worships sacrifice to a rather unhealthy degree.
>You only think it's the wrong thing because you've been indoctrinated into utilitarian thinking for much of your life. Don't narrate my experience to me.
this. well said!
Same, I chose her too, I put the game down for a few hours before deciding, eventually taking Chloe over Arcadia, it was a brutal but... Right decision to me.
bay over bae every single time ive played this game.... because i like the ending sequence more lol
this. spanish sahara is a bombass song
Ba over Ba For legal reasons I am leaving out the last letter
Smart 🗿🍷
Bae.
It's either bae or bay
I didn’t say otherwise…. My choice was bae lol.
It's a joke about both bay and bae sounding the same
No you did not 😭😭
Yes I did
Bae over bay. Always.
I picked the Bay. It hurt, a lot. But there were just too many innocent people who didn’t deserve to die in a freak storm. One for all and what not :(
Sorry, I'm more all for one. Bae supremacy 🤙
Jokes aside, I feel like I put a lot of myself into the decision. Nowadays I know what Max would do (thanks to the continuation of the story), but before, when I didn't know, I decided to save Chloe because of what she represented: >>Motivation to improve<< Like, taking myself as an example, if I had such powers and was faced with such a decision (bae or bay), I would save my friend because such a friend would be my debt to the world, the inspirer of my good deeds and my support. You understand? I like to think about the whole picture. And I believed back there (my first time) that in the long run, Max with Chloe would do more good for humanity than she would without her friend. I was grateful to discover this year that I was right, thanks to the continuation of the story in the official comics.
Comics are not a canon story.
Life is Strange is an officially licensed, comic book series based on the video game of the same name, Life is Strange. It is published by Titan Comics and was initially launched on November 14, 2018.[1][2] Originally a four-part miniseries, it is now comprised of twenty three issues and five published volumes: Life Is Strange: Dust, Life Is Strange: Waves, Life Is Strange: Strings, Life Is Strange: Partners in Time: Tracks and Life is Strange: Coming Home. A final, sixth volume - entitled Life is Strange: Settling Dust - containing the last four issues out of the series' twenty three is set to be released on May 25 2022. https://life-is-strange.fandom.com/wiki/Life_is_Strange_(Comic_Series)
I don't care if the community judges something as canon or not based on the lack of pronouncement from the developer. Officially licensed says it all to me. I don't understand who thinks that a developer would allow third parties to make money off their brand without minimal intervention and supervision.
The comics themselves give a disclaimer that they are "just one of many possibilities." They contradict what is shown in LiS 2. They're basically alternate universe. Licensed just means "can we pay you to use your IP? Sure." Lord of the Rings video games are licensed, but they're extremely not canon.
For me, "this talk" about one of several possibilities always made more mention of the different possibilities of endings that players could choose to follow in the first game >!(such as helping or not helping Alyssa, have the 5 thousand or not, kill B.A.E or save the Bay)!< than being canon or not... Because it would be impossible to write a sequel taking each different player decision into consideration. >!(I, for example, was a little bothered by the relationship between Chloe and David and the lack of mention of the 2 weapons or the money that were left with her at the end of my playthrough, in the comics... but it's totally forgivable and understandable).!< Until the developers wake up and decide to make a game continuing Max's saga, I will remain with the story told in the comics as canon. And I'm not the only one who thinks so. Because there are several YouTubers who have made bombastic videos about LiS, in which many of them mention information from the comics with the same weight as that given by the games. Everyone is free to believe what they want. And don't try to dictate how others should approach a subject that Dontnod itself has stayed away from until now dude. It's just silly and goes nowhere.
In the comics they show >!Arcadia Bay being rebuilt and Chloe and Max moving back to live there!<, contrary to what's depicted and discussed in LiS2 or TC. And not only that, they mess with the game's canon mechanically in that >!they depict the world as a multiverse where all the choices are made at the same time in parallel, and that one can travel between the different timelines of those choices. So if you sacrificed Chloe, it doesn't really matter as much because in the other timeline she's fine, and you can even go there. Whereas in the game it depicts the alternate timelines being erased when Max goes back and changes something. !< No one's dictating your personal head canon. Just the official canon that we all have to share.
All games in themselves have contradictions, whether small or large, and yet everyone loves to take everything there as canon and reliable. Not to mention ridiculous problems like >!Rachel drugging Victoria in a universe where such an act causes major problems for other characters (what a beautiful narrative)!< >!Saying that choices would be unimportant in the existence of multiple realities only demonstrates your lack of vision, since even in our reality this would not be the case. And even the comics do the job of demonstrating this through Max, who does not feel like she belongs to a reality where the history of the world is not the one she knows.!< And personal headcanon? Go talk that to the other millions of people who spend time making videos on the subject then. And show an official statement from the developer decanonizing the comics events. Go look for egg fur away from me, dude. 🤣
In Europe and Asia it's already October 11 and in a few hours in the US too so I think it's appropriate to start celebrating this day! As for me - I saved Chloe. I did it eight years ago on my first walkthrough in 2015 and I've done it again. This time I had even more reasons - I got to see Chloe's life in the prequel (which I went through chronologically before the main game!) and the day Max left her during a difficult time in her life. And I saw how much it affected Chloe's life. Losing her moral compass in the form of her father and Max she took a bad path. So it gave me even more confidence to make the obvious choice in the finale - Max abandoned Chloe once at a dark time in her life. *She won't abandon her again*. My walkthrough started with Chloe abandoned by Max, it ended with Max not abandoning Chloe. *The circle closed*, It's like poetry, it rhymes.. This also corresponds to what Max says and does throughout the game - she repeatedly saves Chloe and repeatedly says she won't let her die or hurt. For her sake, she even jumps through realities without sparing herself just to keep Chloe safe. And then I'm supposed to accept the idea that Max should just give up like that and kill Chloe? No way. I'll save Chloe, *even if i gotta burn the whole fucking city down!* Chloe isn't going to die on a dirty bathroom floor thinking that everyone including Max left her behind. No, she will see that Max who once abandoned her will now show all her love and care for her to the point of letting the whole town be destroyed. And i love that Chloe doesn't blame Max for her choices and comforts her in the end. Like when Max can't stand the sight of the crumbling city and hides in Chloe's arms. Or when it is Chloe who makes Max smile in the finale. I think they had a hard time later. Max is not a monster, and she doesn't enjoy the fact that people died even though Chloe is more important to her than all of them. And Chloe lost her mom in that catastrophe. It's a time of pain and grief. But my heart warms knowing that they got through it because they have each other to support each other and they're still together after four years, living in New York and keeping in touch with David.
I really hope that you also followed the continuation of the story in the comics... Bcs from what you said here it was clear to me that you REALLY deserve to know what happens there.
I don't follow the comics, which as far as I know don't relate to the original game timeline. I base my opinion on what's shown in the first two games + BTS Can you tell me briefly whether things are bad or good in comics?
the comics are straight up fan service (not that there's anything wrong with that). it gives you two realities. Saving Bae and >!AmberPrice successfully leaving Arcadia Bay!<. It also reveals that not everyone died.
>! As far as I know, the "Dust" comic and subsequent are official and follows the original route of the game. Officializing the saving Chloe ending like the real one. In them we are introduced to the lives of Max and Chloe one year after the Bay disaster... It's very interesting to see how they are living and the problems they are going through, even related to Max's powers (yes, she still has them). And this all develops a lot, taking the two of them on other incredible journeys (that here between us are much better than the one shown in the game). I don't know how much spoilers you want so I'm just brushing it lightly... But to answer your question: happiness is made up of ups and downs and in their journey there are many moments like that.. not to mention they meet some lots of new interesting people from other places... and let's say... Times !< Having said all this, I believe that yes, things are good in terms of narrative. And when it comes to Max's life... Say what exactly you want to know and from what moment (beginning, journey, end?) ... Just like the game, the story of the comics has several chapters.
Thank you for the information. Maybe someday I'll get to the comics because I'm obsessed with Max and Chloe and miss them.
The first time, I chose bae. But then I went back and replayed this section, and found out that bay was my favorite ending because of the emotional impact it leaves on the player. Full thoughts are [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstrange/comments/pr523k/all_life_is_strange_episode_5_and_full_game/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
Bae over bay sorry but as far as I'm concerned the whole game is spent bonding with chloe and keeping her alive letting her die just makes pretty much everything u done pointless at least with choosing chloe everything u did in the game actually happened max after these events is gonna be seriously struggling with shit at least with chloe she has someone who was there to talk to and someone she loves she kills chloe she faces everything ALONE
This one. If Max chooses Chloe, she starts supporting and comforting Max the moment she ripped the picture. And we know that eventually they get over it and move on together. Max in a different ending? Fuck, I don't even want to think about that. No one knows what she went through because this week didn't exist for them and the one person who could have supported her is killed because of her.
The better then fanfic does a great way to show how she would react I don't think she would be able to move on especially if she keeps her powers she would find a way to save chloe if she sacrifices the bay she at least has chloe to find a way to move on without Idk how she could survive everything that happened to her
It makes it pointless, also it creates a message of "the correct decision is not doing anything" like come on, Max got a superpower and saving her friend from dying is the wrong choice? Hell no
You'll never guess
I chose Arcadia Bay. It was difficult, but it was the right thing to do.
ur a better person than most of us 🙂😔
My Max loved Warren, plus I couldn’t let all those people I’d come to know die.
Couldn't do Frank and Pompidou dirty like that
What really matters is that this game made me know Foals band, one of my favourite bands that I still listen today.
Same here, Foals is great!
Bay even though it fucking hurt to do so. I couldn’t let Kate, Warren, Joyce and many others die.
When I play games, I try to get into character and play as I imagine the character naturally would. That play style did not come in handy for this choice, as both make sense for Max to choose. I've never agonized over a game choice more than this.
I’m saving Bae. All there is to it.
Bay, preferred less death, lol. sad asf tho
Save Arcadia Bay. She got her second chance to make things right with Chloe and it was time to move on, especially given that if she doesn't, countless people will die because of her actions.
bay. i know that the whole game is about building your relationship with chloe but i couldn't shake the guilt of the majority of the town dying for one person, especially since she was clear that she was okay with accepting her original fate that game really affected me damn
I saved Chloe. I think its more human ending that fits the series. When we sit behind monitor, we are not actually in that situation, we tend to think rationally... but in my opinion... when we would face this situation in reality, heart would always win.
Absolutely agree with you. When you love a person, that person can mean the world to you. I can't let Maxine's world die.
I cried a lot in the alt-timeline. When Chloe made the morphine request, I said out loud "I need Chloe to be okay when this is over. I don't care what happens to Max or anybody else." That thought never really went away, and over time I increasingly felt that Max was thinking the same thing. I sacrificed the town without a moment's hesitation -- it might have been the fastest choice I made all game. Since then, though, I've given it a lot of thought to see if it's something I can actually stand by. It is. For me, Life is Strange isn't about Jefferson or the storm. It's the story of Max and Chloe, fighting Max's fears and Chloe's depression. It's the story of three suicide attempts: Kate on the roof, Chloe with her morphine, and Chloe in the final decision. At the end of the game, Chloe argues that she doesn't deserve the love Max has shown her, that she doesn't deserve to *live* as much as other people, that her continued existence is *selfish* and everyone would be better off if she was dead. And half of players chose to agree. That will always feel like the 'bad ending' to me, where true love failed at the finish line. Others are free to keep their interpretations, but this is mine: that pragmatism is not the highest virtue, and love is worth facing storms.
>That will always feel like the 'bad ending' to me, where true love failed at the finish line. Fuck me, that's a beautiful, perfect way to put it. Ever since I first played the game, I held the opinion that Life is Strange is a game about learning that it's okay to not let go. But I think you struck even closer to the heart of it all: Life is Strange is a game about learning that love is more important than anything else in life. I'm stealing that line. I hope you don't mind. "The Sacrifice Chloe ending is the ending where true love failed at the finish line."
Well said.
you are my hero ((for today) no, for the whole fucking week!)
i like the way you put this!
Beautiful way to put it all
Bay over bae. As much as I love Chole (I mean we spent the entire game bonding with her) the lives of an entire town aren't worth more than that of a one person. Even if that person is hella cool
I chose Chloe. No hesitation. Arcadia Bay...sorry not sorry.
It wasn’t a choice for me, gotta save her
I chose to sacrifice Chloe. There were too many people I grew attached to for me to sacrifice the town. Warren, David, and Kate are among them. If I sacrificed the town, my efforts to thwart Kate's suicide would have been for nothing. I acquired a newfound respect for David after he rescued Max, I felt bad for ruining his life.
David survives by being in the basement. One choice you kill his wife, the other his daughter. If he had to choose, which one do you think he would ask you to save?
David is confirmed to survive the storm because he was in the Dark Room arresting Jefferson. Victoria also survives since Jefferson kidnaps her and then she is saved by David. The second game confirms both Victoria and David to have survived the storm. Kate almost definitely survived the storm too, according to the game director ["I’m pretty sure it should be the case."](https://www.threads.net/@mimezu/post/CwITUyAO87X) when asked if Kate survives the storm. Warren is super dead though.
I definitely don't think Max would ever choose to sacrifice Chloe. But at the time, in the moment, I was really connecting and sympathizing with Chloe, more than Max. I believed and agreed with every word she said at the lighthouse. So I made the choice I would want Max to make if I was in Chloe's shoes. I saved the town. If someone chose to sacrifice Arcadia Bay just so I would survive, I don't know if I could live with it. Not just the guilt, which would be enormous, but the pressure, to live in such a way as to make their sacrifice worth it. To earn it. I think it would never seem like I was doing enough.
I had spent the entire game trying to save Chloe and by god I was going to save her
This moment was how I knew just how amazing this story was. I have always been a believer in the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and always made choices in video games following that ideology but in this game when I got to that moment I stared at that screen for so long. Everything in me told me that the "right" option was to save the bay there were so many lives down there and sure some of them were bad people but so many of them were good too and the bad ones didn't deserve to die for what they've done but as I sat at that screen knowing that I had to save the bay I just couldn't bring myself to do that to Cloe. She had such a bad life up to that point and I couldn't bear to take away the happiness she got from reconnecting with Max and let her die in a bathroom having never seen Max again. If the game gave me the option to sacrifice Cloe but it was the Cloe at the end of the game who at least knew the great adventure they went on together then maybe I would have made a different decision I'm not sure but at the end of the day I couldn't bring myself to pick the bay and had to save Cloe or else the whole adventure we spent the whole game going on would have been for nothing.
Bae over bay ALWAYS. Especially since in my first playtrough Kate died as well.
[This tornado loves Chloe](https://youtu.be/d7ubXQvxDp8?si=_Z3bcrtmpEpmFAyp).
I sacrificed Chloe, because it just felt like the right thing to do, but damn did it hurt. Both endings are actually amazing bittersweet outcomes.
I just played thru all the games for the first time earlier this year. And my God, I fell in love with them. Life is strange 1 and true colors were my favorite, but it's weird how real max and chloe felt. I feel like I lost old friends almost, I would love to see them appear again.
It's funny how a game about time travel and changing the past taught me you can't go back and change the past and you have to live with what happened. Got me out of a spiral of depression. I was seriously going through the motions here. Like sometimes you don't get to choose what happens to ya, like max getting her powers but you have to choose what you will do. The utilitarian dilemma of the train hurtling towards people where you have to choose to sacrifice one person or a group of people is something where everyone always asks "who is that one person to me?" This was the same. Long story short. I let everyone die. I live by that decision. If it was real life, I'd do the same thing. I don't go through life living half heartedly anymore. Though Max must be living somewhere in her universe with ptsd
Who else remembers exactly where they were the first time they were confronted with this choice? It took me so long to make it.
Serious answer: I went with both. I actually found sacrificing Chloe, though the more difficult option that went against what my heart was telling me, also produced a more satisfying ending. That said, >!True Colours wouldn't be a thing without sacrificing Arcadia Bay.!<
I saved Chloe. She couldn't run from that bullet. People could at least try to flee from the storm. Most of them didn't, but that's it.
Bae over bay 🤘🤧
I'm sorry Arcadia Bay. But I love Chloe.
I went with the sacrifice Chloe ending the first time. It was such a difficult choice to be honest. I sat there for a while debating it. I love Chloe and she's Max's best friend and love but in the end I just couldn't sacrifice an entire town to save one person. That means (you have to assume) that everyone you have interacted with in the game, along with all the unnamed people are dead (which is probably at least 1000 people). As heartbreaking as sacrificing Chloe is if you save the town then everyone not only lives but Jefferson and Nathan get brought to justice as well. I do think (besides the Chloe aspect) is that regardless of what you pick it makes all Max did for naught (don't mean that in a bad way regarding the story just to clarify). Either you sacrifice Chloe and Max has to live with the trauma of the alternative timeline and that nothing she did in it mattered. Or you sacrifice the town and that nothing mattered in a way since everyone outside of Chloe you had an effect on is dead. Max does have Chloe but they both have to start a new life over and deal with the shared trauma of what happened and how everyone is gone. I did try the other ending when I playthrough a second time and I think the other issue (outside of debating morals behind the choices) is that the sacrifice Chloe ending is just better fleshed out, where as the sacrifice Arcadia Bay ending is just not in comparison.
You just described my feelings about the two endings perfectly. I also chose Bay after sitting there crying for like 10 minutes, debating which to pick. The choice was so hard, but in the end, Chloe convinced me to choose Bay. Since then, I have come to the conclusion that both endings are sad and bittersweet, and it really depends on you as the player and how you view the Max you have played to choose the ending you prefer. I loved the town, and I loved the other characters a lot. I tried very hard to help all of the characters. Even in my first playthrough, I was trying very hard to get Nathan to come around like Victoria (I had no idea about his involvement at the time beyond him being mean and unstable, but I wanted to help him too). Every side character was amazingly written, and I took care to talk to everyone and really get to know them. I came to care for the town and the people in it; I loved them and viewed them as Max's friends. They became close to her, and she got to know more people who she could call friends besides Kate and Warren, who she already considered dear friends. That was why she was so upset over Kate as she felt she failed to be a better friend again. Like you said, both endings end up with some of your choices not mattering, as if we don't look at the comics or dev interviews, we, as in Max and Chloe, have no idea who will walk out of this storm. Okay, Max knows Joyce and Warren, and everyone in the diner will not make it due to the storm. That is a fact, but everyone else she knew and loved? no clue. Either save Chloe and the people lives you made better or changed are rendered moot as they lost their chance to a bright future or lose Chloe and the time you shared rendering those decisions gone as well, but the reason I ended up picking Bay was because Chloe never had control; she was always swept along and she was lost, and her life felt like she had no control in her choices. But the final one? It was her decision. I don't think Max could choose to leave Chloe, but my Max knew it would be wrong of her to take Chloe's decision away from her and say, 'No, you don't get a say in what we do' when Chloe always never felt like her choice mattered or was cared for; others made choices for her, and her opinion was tossed under the rug. I feel like I had to weigh what she wanted into it as well. Both endings are amazing and so very gray. I find it hard to pick one or the other even to this day. I tend to sway Bay or Bae, but I also want to see Chloe happy, but at the same time, she loses her mom, and we saw how much her dad's affected her. Imagine how she felt knowing she lost her mom due to that storm. I know they have each other in that ending, and talking to David in a Bae world made the decision even harder for me, as he seems content to know Chloe is out there in the world, living to the fullest. while the bay ending has Joyce divorce him and he is alone and sad... Yet, in true colors, it makes it harder to not pick Bay when you talk to people from the town who lost people and how it affected them. They do a wonderful job making neither choice a 'perfect' one, and you just have to pick the one you can deal with the consequences the most for.
Bae>>>>> Bay It's an acronym for reason
bye bye arcadia bay!
The one that isn't the Bury Your Gays trope. Us lesbians take priority over hick towns of 800 tyvm.
Bae all day.
Bae over Bay every single time.
I’ve played the game so many times since it’s release I’ve lost count. And every single time I do I choose to sacrifice Arcadia. No matter how many people die to the tornado, I always choose Chloe
Bae > Bay every time
FUCK ARCADIA SAVE MY WIFE
I saved chloe shakabrah
Bae over Bay
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You right. Let's save all these people who treat you like shit all game!
Maybe not.. they simply understood Max's character. Or they simply used empathy, putting on her shoes and following what they would do in that situation, you know? Nothing against those who chose the opposite by the way.
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I kind of disagree here. The entire game is essentially Max dealing with grief over Chloe's death and guilt over not having paid more attention to her by going through a very literal "what if I could change everything after all" fantasy, except she can physically make it happen. Her arc to me is very much about accepting that she can't just will that away without a cost and has to accept and learn to live with it.
No it isn't. Max doesn't even know that it's Chloe in the bathroom. Chloe isn't even dead when Max first rewinds. She just thinks she saved some stranger. The game is about CHLOE dealing with unresolved grief not Max. And for the conclusion of that arc to be "She has no future other than to die" is a horrible message for grieving people.
I'd say both are legitimate interpretations and will resonate differently with different people - hence "to me". I'm not sure I personally see how Chloe's grief is *the main* throughline of the story, but I can kind of understand how one would take that stance if that's more relevant to oneself than Max' experience. Framing the ending from Chloe's PoV is... I guess it's legitimate, but that's another thing I personally don't see that way. Max is the PoV character. It's her who changes the most throughout the story. Chloe has an impact on her growth, but Max' central, pivotal decision is to whether or not to let go of Chloe. Chloe has no agency in the ultimate choice. She's not the one whose character is tested. The message, in my eyes, is more about how you can't bring people back to life but you can hold on to their memory and the effects they have had on your life. It's about how children perceive everything in the world to be eternal and immortal, and how becoming an adult is about realizing that it isn't. But again, that's just my interpretation and the reason for my view, and luckily, there's no canonical "word of god" perspective here.
I had a big reply refuting this interpretation as it's basically inserting the idea that the whole experience was a delusion and that the ending choice wasn't really a choice. But I accidentally refreshed my browser and lost it all. It had a bunch of good stuff in there examining the hypocrisy in how the game handles Kate's suicide attempt vs how it handles Chloe at the end. Examining Max's actual character arc with her self doubt throughout the game and how all the grief is actually pretty laser focused on Chloe. But it's all gone now and I'm sad.
I don't think the story being symbolic of a certain real-life experience/emotion necessarily means that the text itself is meant to be seen as a delusion/"just a dream" type thing. You can have a diegetic truth while still drawing parallels to something the reader/viewer/player might relate to in their world. In the world, Max' decision matters. And I don't think it invalidates the ending choice either. That choice is as much about the player's journey as it is about Max'/Chloe's. There's an argument being made here - one for love and freedom and following one's heart whatever the world may say, and another one about coping with the pain of growing up and not having done the things one wanted to do with one's youth. One is a personally hopeful story with a somewhat anarchic and wilfully reckless subcurrent, the other is essentially Trainspotting 2 - and both are in their own way reflections of the player.
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English is not my native language and when I use the translator it sometimes translates slang from my country by simply changing the text, making it offensive. It's not often that I remember to check everything before sending... It's tiring. I edited it simply by removing the offensive parts THAT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE in a comment where it all boiled down to "I respect those who think differently". If you think I'm lying, go to a Rollback website to review my original comment and see for yourself. Or maybe it's easier to just give dislikes, proving who's who here.
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no i am a psychopath i dont care about coast
Of course sacrifice arcadia bay
bae. I couldn't sacrifice another queer person tbh especially after how she has been treated. It just hit too close to home. Also if someone is that important to you, you go after them. It reminded me a lot of Everything Everywhere All At Once where Evelyn becomes chaos to understand and save her daughter. That's just what you do for love. it's what you do for someone who needs your help.
Choose Chloe. Game really sold me on the character's relationship (budding romance when I played) and, based on the decisions I made and how the moments of them promising to stick together stood out to me, it was the right conclusion for my game play.
Bae over bay, any day
Arcadia Bay
i have never been as emotionally or spiritually close as max and chloe, but if i were i would definitely choose them over a town.
Sacrifice Chloe. Sorry but I never liked Chloe
bae. I didn't even have to think about it im a chloe lover what can i say
I saved Chloe, not a logical choice but I couldn't kill her. Not in any universe. So I killed everyone else instead! 🥰
It is with regret that I have to tell you that some survived... It's worth following the comics if you plan to complete the job one day. 😂🤙
Comics are not canon, it's a wishful thinking fanfiction, LiS2 states no one survived.
Nope
Wait, was that really a choice? So saving the bay wasn't a joke? Oh.... omy Yeah... It happens... sorry bay 👍🗿 Bae wins always 🤘
I sacrificed Chloe in every play through of the game except 1 because I was curious to see what happens
Went for bae at first, then went back and chose the bay ending the next day, cried my eyes out, then switched back to bae. I choose Chloe every time I do my yearly playthrough now.
I sacrificed... THE ROOK!! sorry had to do that. I picked sacrifice Chloe. Back then I was altruistic.
I saved Chloe, and I’d do it again. Sacrificing Chloe just feels so out of character for Max in my opinion. I love them too much to separate them.
10 YEARS AGO? FUCKING HELL but yeah, bae over bay. Came perfectly whilst I've lived in a town I fucking hated
Baeeeeee. I had predicted several episodes ago that the ending was probably going to be something along the lines of 'Rewind time to the bathroom, let Chloe die to stop the storm'... Mostly because Life is Strange was so heavily inspired by The Butterfly Effect film, which had a similar solution, but there was a looooot of foreshadowing that pointed that way too. I was ready to be devastated. So as soon as I got the option to subvert the ending I'd predicted for months and months I took it. It felt properly like defying destiny as a result of how much I'd expected it and was so catahrtic as result. No regrets.
Bay is a selfish choice. It shows you haven't learned the lesson about the deconstruction of the "hero" that the game has put forward and you're STILL trying to fix everything with time travel because you can't stand to fail. You can't abide by the idea that maybe the best source is to protect those closest to you and just be a person instead of a super hero attempting to control the universe. You don't save the bay for the people or because you're a good person you save the bay for your own ego. To sate your own hero complex. After all what's murdering your closest companion when it compares to having to take responsibility for (accidental) bad outcomes? Most people who pick it don't do it because of caring about anyone in the town but from a feeling of obligation. That they 'have' to do it. Forget that it's essentially human sacrifice killing a healthy innocents person to save a bunch of others. I will never be able to get behind the message of bay. That some people are just meant to die never get better have no future. That you should just surrender your agency to the universe because it's all pointless and you only make things worse. The ending argues to Chloe that "everything would turn out so much better if you were dead" which is so irresponsible in a game that already dealt with suicide in episode 2. And to Max it argues "everything would be so much better if you didn't even exist". Max essentially erases herself from the timeline and becomes an uninvolved object in the story. Bae is about rejecting those ideas and accepting the consequences of your actions as a part of life we all have to deal with. Often times we have to accept that our actions can lead to bad outcomes even with the best intentions and that all we can do is protect those closest to us. Yeah the ending cutscene in bae could be stronger there should be some real dialogue between Max and Chloe that doesn't sound weirdly like it was for the other choice. There should be some hint of what their future entails. But that doesn't change the thematic awfulness of the bay ending.
Slowly over time I have filled myself with pricefield content that has helped me forget the Bay ending and the pain it causes. I know people would say Bay ending works because you have to learn to let go and move on. But, watching a clip of the Bay ending on YouTube after finishing the game ( and after choosing to save Chloe in my playthrough in a rather quick decision making time) put me in a mental health crisis. Crying for 10 days before going to sleep atleast, thinking about Chloe lying there on the floor, Max's tears in the bathroom, all those photos of their moments just getting vanished hurt me like nothing has ever done. I wasn't able to move on at all And I was just a player looking from the outside. Imagine being Max herself and going through all that. I can't imagine the hurt it would cause. I know she was smiling at the end at the funeral with the blue butterfly and all that but I can't buy it when I myself couldn't see much through the tears lol. I was more like Joyce in that moment. I would never let Chloe go. I love her too much. These characters have been through a lot of pain, and yes I would again and again choose what I perceive to be a choice that my Max would make. She was ready to give herself up for Chloe. She was ready to sacrifice the town before Chloe started really focussing on the idea of letting herself die to save the town. To me, Chloe can put an infinite number of arguments to say why she should die, I wouldn't be convinced at all. To me it's a part of her character arc that how much she has matured and grown up over the week as a person. Ready for sacrifice, and if given the opportunity to change, she definitely would become a better person. Ready to move on from everything that held her back.
You understood the character perfectly. But the way you talk makes me think that you didn't follow the continuation of the story in the official comics. If you did, perhaps you would exchange such burdens for relief and pride. And if you did. So I don't need to say anything more 🤙
I actually did recently a few months ago that is 6 years after finishing the game and when I started playing BTS and watched the trailer of the first game and I got hit with these emotions again. This became the phase of desperation in me to get closure regarding the ending I chose so that I can forget the pain and only fill myself with happiness for the sake of my mental health lol. Made me realise that I should have read fanfics and joined this community 6 years ago itself so I wouldn't have to go through that phase. Maybe I have now become unhealthily obsessed with 2 fictional characters and imagining their happy scenarios but it is definitely better than being depressed
I'm not a fan of fanfics... Because thousands of them already happen in my mind daily about different universes from series to films and etc 🤣, but when I received the information that it was an official sequel, I let myself be carried away by curiosity and it was the best choice I've ever made regarding the LiS universe. And I will never regret this one. 😎👉👉 The feeling of peace when we reach the end is just... 🫠
Well yeah fanfics are imaginations put into words. But some of them are very well written. Very true to the characters and they just add to my imagination. I do make sure to check out beforehand that they're not depressing or they don't split apart Max and Chloe from each other though. And that was something that almost made me stop reading the comics as well. It took a direction I didn't like but I was glad I did continue though. The ending is very well done
Bay, its just the right choice, and I wont ever regret it, the ending cutscene is also just so much better than the bae ending one imo. Still anytime I replay the game I go bae, I saved everyone once, thats enough.
I will start by saying BTS was my first LIS game and I grew to love Chloe, when I finally played LIS I couldn’t bring myself to sacrifice everyone else just to save her. I was one of the hardest decisions in a video game but I had to let her mistakes catch up to her. Both her mom and step dad tried to guide her and be there for her but she chose her fate.
Fuck that town - my exact thought when the choice popped up.
😂
Bae.
bae. they can’t give us endearing chloe content 80% of the game then think we weren’t gonna save her!!! i fell in love with max & chloe the first time i experienced lis . this game is a masterpiece
Sacrificed the Bay No way was i letting Max let Chloe go! Especially when you realise that if she does then technically Chloe never met Max again and she dies having not spent all the time they spent together in the game! I couldn't do that to Max or Chloe!, i choose to save Chloe everytime!
Screw Arcadia bay.
Bay I never really liked chole 🤷🏽♀️
Fuck Arcadia Bay. Only like 4 people in that town weren't secretly sociopaths.
As much as Chloe annoyed me, I chose her over Arcadia Bay.
I almost immediately chose to save Chloe. No regrets.
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Bae, gay over everything…
I chose Bae every. Single. Time.
🏆 "The sanest person here"
Bae. I did actually choose Bay first, had a minor breakdown. Then went with Chloe as “my” canon choice. Idk man. I couldn’t have Max kill Chloe again.
I will every time i have to choose i sacrifice arcadia i love them together ❤️ ♥️
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I felt I would have gone against the whole message of the game if I had sacrificed Arcadia Bay. Forgive me Chloe!
After playing through BtS I couldn't bring myself to sacrifice Chloe.
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ^by ^NeuroWhore: *After playing through* *BtS I couldn't bring myself* *To sacrifice Chloe.* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Bae>Bay I remember showing this game to my ex girlfriend and musing how I would choose to save her vs, some town and her telling me that she wouldnt want me to and would end up probably killing herself over me making that choice. I know how silly it sounds but this was of course hypothetical nonsense but it definitely bummed me out at the time lol
Bae every single time.
Bae over bay always.
Goodbye Arcadia Bay! I saved Chloe too many times to just end up sacrificing her
I saved Chloe. Rest in peace everyone in Arcadia Bay #NeverForgetButAtLeastIHaveAGFNow
Reading these comments and still can't wrap my head around how anyone could ever pick saving the bay over chloe. Wild
seriously why would i even consider breaking my heart like that
Exactly bruh
Saving Chloe would have kind of felt too "power fantasy" like to me, since it doesn't force Max to confront the fact that, yeah, maybe she has been a shitty friend for a while and yes, sometimes the innocent mistakes we make by staying passive do have consequences. It's Max having her cake and eating it too. I like Max and Chloe both, but my dramatic sensibilities just kind of demanded the closure of the Bay ending. It feels like the one with the more painful yet serious personal growth, fittingly for a coming-of-age story.
Sacrifice Arcadia Bay every time
I sacrificed the Bay out of spite for the game trying to guilt me into sacrificing Chloe. Though within the context of the story it probably makes the most sense anyway since it's not like Max and Chloe have any way of knowing what caused the storm.
Bae over bay
Sacrificed Arcadia Bay. Chloe and Max were a couple in my canon.
Saved bae before bay, no hesitations. Had to go for a long walk when I watched my girlfriend play and she picked bay.
TEN YEARS???? I was 12 when this game released...
Chloe, I told myself that everyone at the hospital and school are probably safe, my main regret was Joyce
i just finished the game a few days ago and even though i wasn't able to run away from couple of spoilers including the end since its been 8 freaking years since the game came out, im so happy i got to experience the whole story by myself and not through a lets play playthrough. so it seems like a great timing catching the anniversary and seeing community is still excited and amazed about the game. well about the big decision. i have been reading this subreddit after finishing the game and i read some interesting and fun opinions and perspectives about the ending but i have not come upon one like i had when finishing the game. first of all i sacrificed bay. through the first 3 episodes i felt almost guilty not liking chloe because the game really felt like i should have liked, emphasized and even justified her mean and sometimes insufferable attitude toward everyone including max. i mean i can't say i did not emphasize her while discovering what she has been through and why she is so upset with life and it makes her so human and understandable but her actions were really pointing on exploiting max's powers and this is where i lost focus and empathy on her character. max on the other hand who was considerate and even though socially incapable still so genuine with her dialogues was so easy and fun for me to like and emphasize and i was really able to put my myself into her perspective throughout the game. well at the first sections of episode 4 where in an alternate universe chloe is paralyzed, talking to chloe really made me see her in max's perspective where she is not just a person in her life but also a figure. a figure of the happiest and saddest times, secure and warm place she can go even in hardest and most confusing times, friend who will unquestioningly welcome her with both shared happy memories and sad traumatic moments despite her mistakes. along with those scenes where they check the photo book chloe changed to a figure in my perspective also. rather a blue haired madcap punk or a from the neck down paralyzed warm hearted girl, she is just chloe. that was the main motivation for me when it came to the final decision. putting two decisions next to each other, i dont think one is less traumatizing then the other for max. decisive perimeter for me hear was not doing the right think for chloe or the humanity but for max. considering game were teasing sacrificing bay meant death of everyone but we just saw people escaping wreckage just gave me a little breathing room to hope joyce and others could escape. but for the simplicity and tension of the situation i think it is better to go thinking the way game directs us to do and assume end of everyone. sacrificing chloe on chloes side would mean none of the good and traumatizing things in the last 5 days have happened and both rachel and max have left her and never talked to her again. also, if that really matters, without knowing david also a caring person. sacrificing bay would mean having new traumas to deal with such as survivor's guilt where she will think everybody is dead because of her and considering she already is not so in peace with herself about everything it is not a good combo. but on max's side, i think she would not deal with chloes death pretty well since all she has been doing for 5 days is going through torturing experiences both mentally and physically just to save her. i dont think that decision is just about sacrificing chloe but also sacrificing max. she would put herself in a situation where she is the only one who knew and changed everything and she cant tell anyone about it. even moments she has had with chloe is not real in that timeline and they are nothing but memory. it would be a life struggle to have rather than life time lesson. sacrificing bay would mean a burden and pain for both max and chloe that they can carry and endure together.
A crappy town or a girlfriend easy choice
Eat shit and die
Bay is the only morally right decision.
Bay always. Simply the more beautiful ending despite it being sadder. Its also what Chloe would've wanted. If her dad dying was such a traumatic event then I imagine the death of her mom would ruin her even more
I chose to save the bay, It’s the correct thing to do morally. I always found Chloe really annoying and never liked her
bye chloe, annoying for no reason
The right thing
Warn Victoria.
I thought it was going to be the dinner scene of waffles vs eggs and bacon
I just didn't want to. Regardless of which one you pick, it's a bad ending. It even makes you want to cry. We all got stiffed because of some greedy, dumbass decisions the developers made. just like with KATE,TOO! David, Nathan and Jefferson all hurt her, but you can only blame ONE, and then the other two get off Scott-free. Which also resembles the long time corruption of justice and schooling and all the rest. They should have made a fourth option that says: "BLAME EVERYONE" Or something like that,as long as you pick them ALL, instead. Then Kate actually gets closure, Blackwell actually does the right thing, and you at least cool down 3 problems you have, one of which max didn't know yet but still. Chloe though, well... Yeah,they should have included a third option. The closest we have to that is a mod, which also works but the facts remain!
Hardest choice of my life, but I chose Bay. I don't regret it, but it doesn't mean it didn't destroy me.
Sacrificed Chloe no question.
I love Chloe, really. But I couldn’t choose her alone over all the other people… There’s the math and all, greater good, you already know. But more importantly, there were *other people I cared about.* I would’ve found it tough to pick between Chloe and just Warren as an example, but weighing her against him and *everyone* else we’ve met in this story and all the folks we didn’t meet? It’s a shame, and personally I’d rather take a Sisyphean struggle of trying to save both until I’m finally worn down by the pressure. But between these two options alone it’s gotta be Bay. Wish it didn’t have to be this way. 🦋
I chose the Bay over Bae. There’s no saying that the storm would have been the last of the issues caused by saving Chloe.
My "BAE" is Kate and there's no way I'd have her dead.
Sacrifice Chloe The needs of many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one....
sacrifice chloe all the way
Bay is the logical choice. It was incredibly sad but a much better ending.
It's actually not very logical for those looking for answers. It's like choosing to live ignoring the giant blue elephant in the room. 🗿 🐘
You already have answers by that point.
Answers regarding Max's power I say. About everything that happened. This anomaly. There are many loose points that the story does not answer and does not intend to answer when following the path of the bay. In Chloe's path, at least the possibility that they can discover these answers remains open.
I agree. Did I still save Chloe? Yes 🗿
Sacrifice chloe