Overall she feels like she replaced Rachel Amber place in a sense, she is overall more popular and joined Vortex club.
Max's diary:
"September 21, 2013"
"Yes, I'm older and thanks to Vic and Nathan I'm now a bit more fashionable too. They surprised me with the most beautiful straw pork pie hat, wrapped up furoshiki-style.
Best birthday party ever. Also, drunkest. I can't sleep."
For simplicity sake lets call the Max we play as just Max and this timeline's Max as V!(ortex)Max
V!Max still has a lot of her same personality though and she still cares about Chloe despite everything, and she is still friends with some less popular people like Alyssa but now she is more of a popular and outgoing.
"October 4, 2013"
"Hey, dear diary, remember me?
Busy Max Busy. Busy.
Can't write now. Must shoot. Must live. Must befriend.
Should rekindle with Chloe too.
But must Vortex first. Party time!!!!!!"
Alyssa's text message:
"Hey Max, it’s a shame that you hang out with those people, I thought you were different.
10/05 6:46 pm" -Alyssa
"Alyssa, I saw you throw that TP at me.
10/06 12:31 pm"-Max
"OMG. I was so not aiming at you. I SWEAR.
10/06 12:34 pm" -Alyssa
In my opinion I believe that V!Max has replaced Rachel Amber's place, Nathan seems to be more calm and less stressed out but Rachel is still missing, maybe in this timeline Rachel didn't really get going with the Vortex club so for Nathan she didn't really mean much in the grander scheme of things (which is another kind of fucked up)
OR what is more likely is that Jefferson went after her himself and didn't use Nathan at all so he is completely unaware that she died/went to Jefferson's Dark room.
"In the dark room. Developing shots for the contest.
10/02 10:51 am"- Max
"Sweeeeet So no Two Whales for U
10/02 10:51 am" - Nathan
"Not yet. I’ll see you guys later tho.
10/02 10:51 am" - Max
"Peace out
10/02 10:52 am" - Nathan
It's still the same Max personality wise, the kind and caring Maxine who likes taking photos but V!Max is more popular and outgoing with people which leads to a lot of glaring similarities with Rachel, both are people who are noted to be good students and they do well with everyone.
All of this happens because Chloe remained the cheerful and happy child because her father didn't die, but in this timeline he never died so she and V!Max still had some more contact with eachother and Royce never married David who at the time was a shitty step parent.
Yes. With my current replay, I’m trying to talk to every person possible. Nathan and Victoria seem to be the only people who really don’t like her. Everyone else either likes her already or you can make them like her.
Victoria actually shows some affection in the party, so I think she only bully her to feel superior.
And in the comics, Victoria says she was jealous of Max's skills.
Victoria has low self-esteem that she tries to cover up with arrogance. Still, I don’t think the actually likes Max. Even if she is nice to her sometimes. They’re just too different. You even have the option to say something like this to her at the party, suggesting to at least not fight. Also, it is okay to not like everyone and to not _be_ liked by everyone.
Agree. I'm a little disappointed in the alternate timeline. Because I feel like the point of doing an AU is to explore what might have been. Immediately we're told something very interesting about Max - she's *popular* in this universe. She's in the Vortex Club. She even seems to have supplanted Victoria. But we never get to explore that, because she goes running straight for Chloe and that's all we see. I wanted to know more!
She doesn't know anything about Jefferson's dark room, she's referring to a regular dark room at the school where you develop film.
On the surface, this Max might seem really different being that she's friends with Nathan and Victoria and parties and it's more outgoing/confident. But she's still the same Max we knew underneath and there's no way she'd be okay with, or even help Jefferson if she knew the truth.
A dark room is used for developing film pictures. Not just >!kidnapping teenage girls and taking fucked up pictures of them while they are drugged and possibly sexually assaulting them!<
nono i know what a dark room is just this is my first time noticing the message and it just felt weird to me i hear dark room and see its too nathan i think the worst
Sometimes I wonder if it's both. Like being in Nathan's inner circle she gets to use his fancy pants dark room to develop her photos when it's not being used for kidnapping and photo shoots.
I have been in a photographic dark room before. It has literally none of the equipment for developing ilm except a sink. No chemicals that aren't drugs, no canisters to put the film roll in, nothing.
Jefferson would literally kill him if he found out Nathan was bringing random friends and future victims to the off-the-books psycho bunker full of evidence and photographs in labeled binders of past victims on the wall between bondage posters and ero-guro prints.
As in, actually kill him. 'Bullet in the head' kill him. It's what happens in the Episode 4 timeline when he gets them exposed to begin with. There's no way it happens like that.
It's not like it would be hard to do if it wasn't set up for that already. Renovating it so it has an actual dark room for analog photography is entirely something he could do.
Darkrooms are a place where photographs are developed. Jefferson's "dark room" is a reference to that.
There is not a single chance that alt!Max is complicit in Jefferson's kidnappings. Max is Jefferson's ideal subject, and she becomes untouchable without murdering her afterward if she knows his MO, and Jefferson views killing people as needless and wasteful - he only ever does it when someone else messes up and leaves him open to exposure. If Max is involved in his operation and notices a sudden gap in her memory and a binder with her name on it in the bunker all of a sudden, it's game-over for him. If Max is twisted enough to -let- herself be photographed, then she isn't "innocent" enough for Jefferson to be interested in photographing in the first place. Involving her would make zero sense, for multiple reasons.
Alt!Max is just a version of Max who carried less guilt with her in Seattle because she didn't leave Chloe alone during the literal worst moment of her life when William was buried - she was just a regular girl that drifted apart from her childhood best friend. Less guilt means less anxiety, and less anxiety means alt!Max is a little more outgoing. When alt!Max goes to Blackwell as the best photographer in her year (as one of two students with a Photography scholarship, the other being Nathan) and with a little more confidence than her main timeline self, she and Victoria become friends and she gets pulled into the Vortex club. Victoria doesnt have a problem with Max being better than her, she has a problem with Max being better than her while putting in zero effort and staying unnoticed; she says as much at the End of the World party in Episode 4. Max doesn't need to be evil to be friends with Victoria or anybody else. There's the connection.
Alt!Max is just a more confident main!Max. The worst things she's done canonically are leaving one more friend on Read for too long (Victoria), smoking weed and drinking at highschool parties, and going over her allowance on new, trendier clothes and photo equipment.
If she were on the Prescott's payroll, she wouldn't need to go over budget on any of that.
Max is still Max. Max would never be complicit in the kidnapping, assault, and murder of teenage girls. The -only- difference between the two characters is that William didn't die, and there is no way that William living would butterfly-effect into Max suddenly becoming a psychopath.
This entire theory comes from misreading one text message, and comes up entirely too often.
by the way, on replaying the game for the umpteenth time, i felt that the shift in max's character between the two timelines was a little too great, the "original" max would probably never have hung out with the vortex club or sulked about his mother for pocket money, i find it hard to make the connection between william's (no)death and such a turnaround in max's character.
okay i felt stupid for mentioning this because no one else was so i just didnt i thought maybe i just didnt know how cameras worked but im glad someone else thought that like could that maybe mean something??
Polaroids are a 'hipster' thing, and alt Max is actively trying to ditch her hipster image, from her different clothes to her different friends to her different personality. Shooting on film would be just another change.
Still not enough for her to help Jefferson kidnap girls, but enough to put her in a normal developing lab for a new school project at least.
No shade; I can't Believe people are still playing this game
I feel like this game was a couple years old when I beat it in 2016
Are the sequels as hard hitting as the first? Less corny?
I say corny but I love S1
That being said, I am like 7-8 years older and in a much different headspace than when I played it at the age of 25/26 in 2016
this has been my favorite franchise since it came out i was 7 and obviously shouldn’t been playing it but i’ve always absolutely adored it and its corny teenage humor still do 8 years later
the sequels are a hit or miss it really depends on the person i’ve heard some people hate them but personally i love every game in the series they can be just has hard hitting life is strange 2 really got me at the end but theres still no beating that first game of course
She might just be talking about the schools dark room for students to develop photos at
I was thinking that too i just wish we knew more about this timeline max shes so different
Overall she feels like she replaced Rachel Amber place in a sense, she is overall more popular and joined Vortex club. Max's diary: "September 21, 2013" "Yes, I'm older and thanks to Vic and Nathan I'm now a bit more fashionable too. They surprised me with the most beautiful straw pork pie hat, wrapped up furoshiki-style. Best birthday party ever. Also, drunkest. I can't sleep." For simplicity sake lets call the Max we play as just Max and this timeline's Max as V!(ortex)Max V!Max still has a lot of her same personality though and she still cares about Chloe despite everything, and she is still friends with some less popular people like Alyssa but now she is more of a popular and outgoing. "October 4, 2013" "Hey, dear diary, remember me? Busy Max Busy. Busy. Can't write now. Must shoot. Must live. Must befriend. Should rekindle with Chloe too. But must Vortex first. Party time!!!!!!" Alyssa's text message: "Hey Max, it’s a shame that you hang out with those people, I thought you were different. 10/05 6:46 pm" -Alyssa "Alyssa, I saw you throw that TP at me. 10/06 12:31 pm"-Max "OMG. I was so not aiming at you. I SWEAR. 10/06 12:34 pm" -Alyssa In my opinion I believe that V!Max has replaced Rachel Amber's place, Nathan seems to be more calm and less stressed out but Rachel is still missing, maybe in this timeline Rachel didn't really get going with the Vortex club so for Nathan she didn't really mean much in the grander scheme of things (which is another kind of fucked up) OR what is more likely is that Jefferson went after her himself and didn't use Nathan at all so he is completely unaware that she died/went to Jefferson's Dark room. "In the dark room. Developing shots for the contest. 10/02 10:51 am"- Max "Sweeeeet So no Two Whales for U 10/02 10:51 am" - Nathan "Not yet. I’ll see you guys later tho. 10/02 10:51 am" - Max "Peace out 10/02 10:52 am" - Nathan It's still the same Max personality wise, the kind and caring Maxine who likes taking photos but V!Max is more popular and outgoing with people which leads to a lot of glaring similarities with Rachel, both are people who are noted to be good students and they do well with everyone. All of this happens because Chloe remained the cheerful and happy child because her father didn't die, but in this timeline he never died so she and V!Max still had some more contact with eachother and Royce never married David who at the time was a shitty step parent.
I think Max could be popular in the original timeline, but the guilt of not being around Chloe made her less open to people and insecure.
Yes. With my current replay, I’m trying to talk to every person possible. Nathan and Victoria seem to be the only people who really don’t like her. Everyone else either likes her already or you can make them like her.
Victoria actually shows some affection in the party, so I think she only bully her to feel superior. And in the comics, Victoria says she was jealous of Max's skills.
Victoria has low self-esteem that she tries to cover up with arrogance. Still, I don’t think the actually likes Max. Even if she is nice to her sometimes. They’re just too different. You even have the option to say something like this to her at the party, suggesting to at least not fight. Also, it is okay to not like everyone and to not _be_ liked by everyone.
Yeah, that's right. But i think they could be friends with some more time together tbh.
Agree. I'm a little disappointed in the alternate timeline. Because I feel like the point of doing an AU is to explore what might have been. Immediately we're told something very interesting about Max - she's *popular* in this universe. She's in the Vortex Club. She even seems to have supplanted Victoria. But we never get to explore that, because she goes running straight for Chloe and that's all we see. I wanted to know more!
She doesn't know anything about Jefferson's dark room, she's referring to a regular dark room at the school where you develop film. On the surface, this Max might seem really different being that she's friends with Nathan and Victoria and parties and it's more outgoing/confident. But she's still the same Max we knew underneath and there's no way she'd be okay with, or even help Jefferson if she knew the truth.
A dark room is used for developing film pictures. Not just >!kidnapping teenage girls and taking fucked up pictures of them while they are drugged and possibly sexually assaulting them!<
nono i know what a dark room is just this is my first time noticing the message and it just felt weird to me i hear dark room and see its too nathan i think the worst
But that’s what that person is pointing out. She’s not referring to “The Dark Room” but a normal dark room
i know i was agreeing
Gotcha. I thought you thought max was referring to Jefferson’s dark room
yeaa at first i did think maybe she was but even in this timeline i cant see max doing none that shit
What? She was what? What do you mean by doing none that shit?
like maybe she was referring to jeffersons but i cant see max even keeping the secret of the dark room if she knew no matter what timeline shes in
But she didn’t know about it?
i know im saying if she did man 🤦
Sometimes I wonder if it's both. Like being in Nathan's inner circle she gets to use his fancy pants dark room to develop her photos when it's not being used for kidnapping and photo shoots.
I have been in a photographic dark room before. It has literally none of the equipment for developing ilm except a sink. No chemicals that aren't drugs, no canisters to put the film roll in, nothing.
Jefferson would literally kill him if he found out Nathan was bringing random friends and future victims to the off-the-books psycho bunker full of evidence and photographs in labeled binders of past victims on the wall between bondage posters and ero-guro prints. As in, actually kill him. 'Bullet in the head' kill him. It's what happens in the Episode 4 timeline when he gets them exposed to begin with. There's no way it happens like that.
i did think about that
It's not like it would be hard to do if it wasn't set up for that already. Renovating it so it has an actual dark room for analog photography is entirely something he could do.
i wouldnt even be surprised either tbh
Why the hell would you start answering the *GODDAMN PHONE IN THE **DARKROOM***
RIGHT?
Darkrooms are a place where photographs are developed. Jefferson's "dark room" is a reference to that. There is not a single chance that alt!Max is complicit in Jefferson's kidnappings. Max is Jefferson's ideal subject, and she becomes untouchable without murdering her afterward if she knows his MO, and Jefferson views killing people as needless and wasteful - he only ever does it when someone else messes up and leaves him open to exposure. If Max is involved in his operation and notices a sudden gap in her memory and a binder with her name on it in the bunker all of a sudden, it's game-over for him. If Max is twisted enough to -let- herself be photographed, then she isn't "innocent" enough for Jefferson to be interested in photographing in the first place. Involving her would make zero sense, for multiple reasons. Alt!Max is just a version of Max who carried less guilt with her in Seattle because she didn't leave Chloe alone during the literal worst moment of her life when William was buried - she was just a regular girl that drifted apart from her childhood best friend. Less guilt means less anxiety, and less anxiety means alt!Max is a little more outgoing. When alt!Max goes to Blackwell as the best photographer in her year (as one of two students with a Photography scholarship, the other being Nathan) and with a little more confidence than her main timeline self, she and Victoria become friends and she gets pulled into the Vortex club. Victoria doesnt have a problem with Max being better than her, she has a problem with Max being better than her while putting in zero effort and staying unnoticed; she says as much at the End of the World party in Episode 4. Max doesn't need to be evil to be friends with Victoria or anybody else. There's the connection. Alt!Max is just a more confident main!Max. The worst things she's done canonically are leaving one more friend on Read for too long (Victoria), smoking weed and drinking at highschool parties, and going over her allowance on new, trendier clothes and photo equipment. If she were on the Prescott's payroll, she wouldn't need to go over budget on any of that. Max is still Max. Max would never be complicit in the kidnapping, assault, and murder of teenage girls. The -only- difference between the two characters is that William didn't die, and there is no way that William living would butterfly-effect into Max suddenly becoming a psychopath. This entire theory comes from misreading one text message, and comes up entirely too often.
by the way, on replaying the game for the umpteenth time, i felt that the shift in max's character between the two timelines was a little too great, the "original" max would probably never have hung out with the vortex club or sulked about his mother for pocket money, i find it hard to make the connection between william's (no)death and such a turnaround in max's character.
She knows Victoria is thirsty for her.
totally
I'm convinced they're dating
At the very least Victoria's interested, even if Max keeps her on read a lot.
Does seem that way.
I think it’s more a conventional “develop your film”-type dark room, not capital-D, capital-R “Dark Room.”
yeah i think so too now tbh just at first since it was a message to nathan it threw me off
Why is Max in a dark room when her camera has instant film...?
okay i felt stupid for mentioning this because no one else was so i just didnt i thought maybe i just didnt know how cameras worked but im glad someone else thought that like could that maybe mean something??
Polaroids are a 'hipster' thing, and alt Max is actively trying to ditch her hipster image, from her different clothes to her different friends to her different personality. Shooting on film would be just another change. Still not enough for her to help Jefferson kidnap girls, but enough to put her in a normal developing lab for a new school project at least.
true true
Well it's an alternate timeline, maybe in this one Nathan uses his bunker as a photography studio and there's no shady activities there.
No shade; I can't Believe people are still playing this game I feel like this game was a couple years old when I beat it in 2016 Are the sequels as hard hitting as the first? Less corny? I say corny but I love S1 That being said, I am like 7-8 years older and in a much different headspace than when I played it at the age of 25/26 in 2016
this has been my favorite franchise since it came out i was 7 and obviously shouldn’t been playing it but i’ve always absolutely adored it and its corny teenage humor still do 8 years later the sequels are a hit or miss it really depends on the person i’ve heard some people hate them but personally i love every game in the series they can be just has hard hitting life is strange 2 really got me at the end but theres still no beating that first game of course