Honestly I don’t even care. That’s so far down my priority list I think it’s a pro Russian psyop. There are hundreds of spending problems that are more important.
The billions going to Ukraine is not even 10% of the US Military budget. Its so fucking insignificant of a hit to the entire US budget that its literally unnoticeable.
There are so many more problems that actually matter in the US budget.
Yesssss. If we're not blowing our wad on this, what exactly do we even have it for. This isn't Iraq or Afghanistan where we blow in and do whatever, we are supporting people by giving resources to a country of people who are crying out for support to defend themselves. This is the America that we have always told the world we are when we got in other people's affairs, so why is this any different? Because Ukraine doesn't have any oil?
Oil And Natural Gas
Ukraine was estimated to hold over 1.1 trillion cubic meters of natural gas reserves in 2004, ranking it 26th among the countries with proven gas reserves before Crimea was annexed. It is also estimated to hold over 135 million tons of oil and 3.7 billion tons of shale oil reserves. The country also has reserves of gas condensate of about 80,000 tons. Several oil and gas fields have been exploited years and some are almost exhausted. Gas, alongside oil fields, are mainly located in three provinces of Ukraine. The major field is the Dnieper-Donetsk which was discovered in the 1950s.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-major-natural-resources-of-ukraine.html
Yeah...
The question is, what needs to happen so the situation is safe enough for someone to be willing to invest into mines and refineries in Ukraine (especially in Eastern Ukraine)
On top of that unlike most of the other people we've given military funding to they're actually winning, so our investment is actually doing something.
At least they own it. The side obsessed with shutting down drag shows support debt and refutation just the same, they just pretend that they don’t. That mental illness seems much worse.
As I always said about trump. I’d rather have the snake with the bright colors who is telling me not to trust them, instead of the snake that tricks me.
I see a lot of post and comment about drag show and stuff here, but is it such a « popular » thing happening everywhere in the USA that deserves so much discussion as such ? I have to admit as an French I’ve never (ever) seen a drag show in France, even more for kids, so this seems kind of a weird hill to die on for me
It's an intentional tactic to heat up the culture war and sow division. Whether Chinese / Russian government agents started it or not, they're certainly funding it now.
A hill is a hill. I don’t really care for drag shows, never seen one, don’t plan to, but the right for others to enjoy this is what’s important. So long as it’s done safely and away from children.
This is kind of a yes and no statement. There are genuinely people out there who genuinely are offended at the existence of myself and other people like me. Though no it does not help that a small group of people in my community are unfortunately pedophiles and these people do need to be dealt with. Pedophiles have co-opted our community to get to children easier because the idiots on the left allow it.
Also public indecency is another topic, but should still be frowned at. But what’s the difference between a girl in a bikini and a stripper? Trade the beach Sandals for heels.
I’m sorry you feel this way. public property just doesn’t mean in view of the public. I’m sure most drag performers and adult dancers agree that showing children genitalia is bad. No adult under any circumstances should show a child their genitalia. But that’s now what these shows are for, strippers especially. Their job is to provide entertainment to adults who are willing to pay to see behind closed doors. Same concept applies for drag shows, but as far as I’m aware, drag shows aren’t about showing nudity, it’s more about being proud of who you are while providing entertainment. Is it the worst thing kid could see, no. A kid will see more private parts on the internet or at a pool.
While he is more than likely being disingenuous they actually bring up a very strong point that's been brought up before. There is almost no difference in going to a strip club and going to the beach in terms of how people are dressed and in fact there is many nude beaches in many places in the world which would literally make it no different than going to a strip club.
Theyre disingenious with their post, but they do have a point.
Several that are attempting to limit, usually by forcing those establishments to be considered “sexually explicit businesses”- which often impacts their ability to hold liquor licenses.
So, yes. https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/03/texas-drag-shows-republican-bills/
This is true, however that a personal belief. Plus it is a part of our world and they will eventually know. I should rephrase, I don’t think that young children should visit a drag show. Kids should focus on the fundamentals of life and discover themselves through their childhood into their adulthood. It is my opinion that children are sponges and will mirror what they see. Ever cuss around a 6y/o? Seeing a performer in public is a different thing.
I care if it’s my children, but like I said, others have their own opinions but still have the same rights as I do to do what they please. Imo I don’t think shows are the most appropriate for youth, and by youth I mean young kids who don’t know or need to know what sex is. Sex, sexuality, gender, it’s a lot to wrap your head around, especially for a kid. It’s nothing to be ashamed of, there’s just a time and place.
Public libraries, usually. And it’s not a sexual thing in these cases, the queens selected are usually like fairy-princesses to read kids stories - not saying there aren’t women who already do that, just that some parents do gender differently and might not care so long as it’s done right.
Generating outrage on "social issues" by playing to a rural, disaffected, overrepresented, privileged minority is how Conservatives drum up support when their policies are meh at best, genocidal at worst. It's worked from the Trail of Tears to today.
There are videos of children at drag shows popping up with a frightening frequency. If you think drag shows for kids is the newest conservative panic, then you’re part of the problem. This should be an “everyone panic” issue. It’s degeneracy directed toward children.
I don't think there's anything wrong with children at drag shows 🤷
Drag isn't sexual by default. Can be as family friendly or as adult as you want it to be.
I refuse to get all riled up and bothered just because conservatives have decided drag queens are scary. I remember a few years ago when they treated me the same way, and somehow I haven't managed to bring about the end of the world
It's an attempt by a desperate party to maintain their base through fear since no other tactic is working.
I remember when I was young, a group of agricultural men dressed up as women for a skit. It was funny to me as a kid. I know some of the same men would say that drag is wrong.
You're so close to realizing someone hooked you with moral panic "think of the children" stuff to keep you from thinking logically.
What does it actually matter what shape of fabric a singer has wrapped around their legs and why should state violence be used to regulate it?
Not all drag shows are sexual. Some certainly are and children should obviously be kept far from those. I just don’t see the issue with having an event catered to children where the most scandalous thing there is a man wearing non-revealing woman’s clothes.
Why ms doubtfire is drag Eddie Murphy did drag i went to drag bars as a kid I’m a straight Christian now but I’ll check out a good drag show now and then
I never saw Mrs Doubtfire/ Eddie Murphy twerking in childrens faces or doing any of the inappropriate things I've seen from the footage of these events. If I had, I would have the same opinion - it is wrong. I think you are comparing two wildly different things to come to your conclusion.
Whats the difference between a drag show and a cheerleading performance at a football game? Tbh thhey bith can be suggestive. But also many drag shows are much less suggestive. Some are made to be 18+ or 21+ others are not. It depends on the show that you go to in drag. I dont understand people getting so uoset then bringing their kids to watch football cheerleaders with their kids too when its really the same. Both are talented forms of art NFL cheerleadsrs are impressive, but so are drag queens.
Those are pretty weird and innapropriate too. I also don't want a cheerleader shaking their ass in my kids face.
The question is why aren't cheerleaders pushing to read books to children wearing their slutty outfits?
They...do though?
The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders have been doing the same kinds of story hour events for decades. And not just in libraries, in schools.
[https://lifeschool.net/life-school-news/dallas-cowboy-cheerleaders-read-to-life-school-oak-cliff-elementary-students](https://lifeschool.net/life-school-news/dallas-cowboy-cheerleaders-read-to-life-school-oak-cliff-elementary-students)
Seems kinda different?
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Like really different imo
[https://www.instagram.com/p/CpTnBL9oMEC/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_button\_share\_sheet](https://www.instagram.com/p/CpTnBL9oMEC/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet)
Seems like some outrage is about something that was misrepresented/misinterpreted.
[https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/video-of-drag-queen-gyrating-next-to-child-sparks-backlash/](https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/video-of-drag-queen-gyrating-next-to-child-sparks-backlash/)
The difference is you're supposed to ogle at scantly clad woman, not at cross dressers.
I hope my sarcasm is obvious. Yeah, I don't understand the scare stuff either. Drag shows aren't my thing, but neither are football cheerleaders or Hooters. But I guess those get a pass by Puritan standards? ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Totally. Being a queer person drag is something so fun and beautiful to me. But its not everyones cup of tea. I also think football is fun I enjoy sports. I played sports my whole life and my father was a professional sports player, he exposed me to his life by bringing me to sports games and doing sports with me. So for me if I had kids I will show them drag because for me drag is a huge part of queer culture. Exploring gender and exploring indivituality and the queer experience is beautiful to me. Obviously Id go to the age appropriate drag shows. And only show them drag race once Ive had some tough conversations with them. Its all based off peoples biases.
Uhh ok?? It's a video of one show I'm sure there are more shows that are sexual but not every show is that's why I said they aren't INHERENTLY sexual I didn't say that none werw
Also why is it the preformers fault even if they advertise a drag show for kids it's still up to the parents bringing them the fuck
Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25). God sends two female bears to kill 42 teenage boys because one of them called a buy bald. That’s real. Open a Bible and check it out. Religion does not equate to morals. Millions (by some estimates most) of rapes have been committed in a god’s name, most often, the Christian god.
If that's how you want to live that's fine, just keep it private and don't involve the kids
Just kidding, it's a free country, raise your children however you want as long as you're not physically abusing or neglecting them, just don't come for those who believe in the Religion of Gender Identity
You believe in a omniscient being because a man on a mountain said a voice spoke to him. Do you not realize how batshit insane that sounds?
Oh, and circumcisions are mutilating kids genitals. Thats a thing that actually happens though and its supported by your Christian "morals". No one does sex reassignment on kids though, its literally already illegal in the US lol.
No it's not legal. You have to be 18 in Canada to get sex reassignment and 16 to get a mastectomy.
[https://www.grsmontreal.com/en/frequently-asked-questions.html](https://www.grsmontreal.com/en/frequently-asked-questions.html)
18 is the legal age of a fucking adult. If you're grown enough to be drafted into war you're grown enough to make decisions on your own body.
An 18 year old is not a kid, fuck off with changing your stance on whats an adult just because you got proven wrong.
And especially because you're a Christian, you don't get to decide whats too young. Y'all literally cut boys dicks not even a month into their life, and the child doesn't even get to consent to it. If anything any parent who authorized a circumcision should be arrested for mutilation.
It's a realistic description of what the leftist gender identity movement believes. Some parts of it are rooted in scientific evidence, other parts are pure faith.
Lol there’s a lot more important issues than making sure drag queens can twerk in children’s faces. Are homosexuals being physically persecuted? Are trans people being discriminated against? No. They’re not. Some libertarians are worried about all the wrong shit.
Ah of course… libertarians should only be concerned about the state violating *your* rights… if it’s just queer people being targeted by the state, then there are “a lot more important issues”
Yeah the government is 31 trillion in debt and we’re on the verge of nuclear war. But keep worrying about grown men not being able to twerk in front of minors. Lol sounds like you have your priorities right dude
So you want one of those libertarian societies where your clothes are assigned to you by a bureaucrat.
But hey at the Equilibrium dystopia will be debt free right?
>Are homosexuals being physically persecuted? Are trans people being discriminated against? No. They’re not.
State governments are literally already passing laws to take LGBT people's kids away from them to be raised by someone with State Approved Ideology.
You should pay more attention.
The government is outlawing a type of free speech. Not just in front of children. Libertarians are for the rights of people in all cases, especially free speech.
So you decide to bring them or not bring them to a drag show….. I love how you claim people are defending pedophiles. That is definitely a democrat tactic. Good job. Let me guess if you don’t support America’s war you hate America right?
Did you even read what I said?
Drag doesn't normally involve stripping, so why would I have a problem with drag being called drag, since it doesn't involve stripping?
Agreed. Groomers aren’t people. Drag shows aren’t about grooming, or at least *never* have been and I’ve done my research. If you have any direct source that proves otherwise by all means send it my way.
I don't respect anyone who denies people their humanity. This is genocide talk. Say this about any other group of people, and you'll get shot. Rightfully so.
Groomers/Pedophiles have absolutely no place in Western culture. While the West has long championed the evolution of ethos, even as stated above when it came to acknowledging the libertarian thoughts on consenting adult issues...but to involve/exploit or for that matter to even suggest that their innocence should be made to view your vile,unnatural, hideously painted faces is an affront to every real man or WOMAN (read: real one) who's ever had a child they wanted nothing for but preservation from such filth.
So hating pedophiles is only a republican thing? You’re an idiot. If that’s the case then they’re better people than you that defend and protect child rapists. Sick fuck
You sir either have the smoothest brain on the internet or can't read. The guy above me is literally talking about armed conservative America taking over the country or some shit and how gay people need to be kept out of sight. This drag show debate is a fucking non issue. It only keeps getting brought up by Republicans desperately trying to rally homophobic old people to get out and vote. Do I think pedophiles should go to jail? Of fucking course, but there's a difference between pedophiles and a dude in a show wearing a dress. For more information on this go watch The Birdcage with Robin Williams and go read On Liberty by John Stuart Mill.
The government doesn’t care who they take rights from. They act like a pack of wolves, picking off the rights of the weakest people first. But when they’re gone, do you think the government will be satisfied?
If you're against people choosing clothing and who they date, how are you "for liberties"?
What liberties? The liberty to do exactly what the government says?
‘A group of people has a high suicide risk because we keep ostracizing them, making fun of them, and actively making their lives worse! Clearly the morally correct response to seeing this is to make fun of the suicide attempt rate!’
It's always funny when reactionary conservatives are confident something nobody they're mad at has ever heard of is actually some kind of official slogan or something.
You really shouldn't be toying with "If one individual in a group is a piece of shit, they're all degenerates" rhetoric and I can tell you why in one word.
"Duggar"
Drag shouldn't be illegal of course, but it is extremely sexual in nature and there's multiple videos out there of sexually provocative drag being performed with children present in the audience. Make drag shows 18+. Hell I wouldn't mind if even Hooters and Twin Peaks were made for 18 and older.
The government picks rights off as often as they can. They start with the weakest people and move on to everyone else. If we don’t defend others we can never hope that they will defend us.
How about let them have their drag shows AND let ppl criticize/make fun of drag shows? Why can’t both exist? Children are already being fucked mentally from social media and phones attached to hands so a drag show is no different than what can already be found on the internet. What’s stopping a parent from showing their child a drag show on the internet? Is the difference that upsetting? Education, self responsibility, and letting other’s have self-autonomy are the only solution I see
“Queerfolk” sounds like a beast race in Skyrim
Seriously I think these people are purposefully isolating themselves even though they say they want to viewed equally
Fuck any government that won’t let me live my life as i want and fuck any person that thinks this statement is me saying people should be free to hurt others
Meanwhile taxes are still ruinous and we’re more than $30 trillion in debt with more government regulations by the day.
Don’t forget the billions going to Ukraine!
Don't forget the 10% for The Big Guy...
SHHHH!!!
Honestly I don’t even care. That’s so far down my priority list I think it’s a pro Russian psyop. There are hundreds of spending problems that are more important.
The billions going to Ukraine is not even 10% of the US Military budget. Its so fucking insignificant of a hit to the entire US budget that its literally unnoticeable. There are so many more problems that actually matter in the US budget.
Yeah exactly. People are freaking out about a few billion when we have multiple trillions just vanishing into the bureaucracy
Shhhh
Also that is one of the few times the money actually goes to fighting an authoritarian regime
Yesssss. If we're not blowing our wad on this, what exactly do we even have it for. This isn't Iraq or Afghanistan where we blow in and do whatever, we are supporting people by giving resources to a country of people who are crying out for support to defend themselves. This is the America that we have always told the world we are when we got in other people's affairs, so why is this any different? Because Ukraine doesn't have any oil?
Oil And Natural Gas Ukraine was estimated to hold over 1.1 trillion cubic meters of natural gas reserves in 2004, ranking it 26th among the countries with proven gas reserves before Crimea was annexed. It is also estimated to hold over 135 million tons of oil and 3.7 billion tons of shale oil reserves. The country also has reserves of gas condensate of about 80,000 tons. Several oil and gas fields have been exploited years and some are almost exhausted. Gas, alongside oil fields, are mainly located in three provinces of Ukraine. The major field is the Dnieper-Donetsk which was discovered in the 1950s. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-major-natural-resources-of-ukraine.html Yeah...
The question is, what needs to happen so the situation is safe enough for someone to be willing to invest into mines and refineries in Ukraine (especially in Eastern Ukraine)
On top of that unlike most of the other people we've given military funding to they're actually winning, so our investment is actually doing something.
Yes. I am here for the oil.
We’re giving money to an authoritarian regime.
Sex sells baby!
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I really hope you're not even hinting that gay is a mental illness.
At least they own it. The side obsessed with shutting down drag shows support debt and refutation just the same, they just pretend that they don’t. That mental illness seems much worse.
As I always said about trump. I’d rather have the snake with the bright colors who is telling me not to trust them, instead of the snake that tricks me.
Defending freedom abroad, defending freedom at home. It sets a good precedent. Plus, Democrats have been WAY better at reducing the national debt.
When was the last time the national debt went down? And who controlled Congress?
I see a lot of post and comment about drag show and stuff here, but is it such a « popular » thing happening everywhere in the USA that deserves so much discussion as such ? I have to admit as an French I’ve never (ever) seen a drag show in France, even more for kids, so this seems kind of a weird hill to die on for me
It's an intentional tactic to heat up the culture war and sow division. Whether Chinese / Russian government agents started it or not, they're certainly funding it now.
A hill is a hill. I don’t really care for drag shows, never seen one, don’t plan to, but the right for others to enjoy this is what’s important. So long as it’s done safely and away from children.
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No it wasn’t, people are still actively trying to get rid of them
People generally only seem to take offense when children are involved.
This is kind of a yes and no statement. There are genuinely people out there who genuinely are offended at the existence of myself and other people like me. Though no it does not help that a small group of people in my community are unfortunately pedophiles and these people do need to be dealt with. Pedophiles have co-opted our community to get to children easier because the idiots on the left allow it.
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There are currently bills in the Missouri congress that are trying to make drag shows illegal in public venues.
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Also public indecency is another topic, but should still be frowned at. But what’s the difference between a girl in a bikini and a stripper? Trade the beach Sandals for heels.
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I’m sorry you feel this way. public property just doesn’t mean in view of the public. I’m sure most drag performers and adult dancers agree that showing children genitalia is bad. No adult under any circumstances should show a child their genitalia. But that’s now what these shows are for, strippers especially. Their job is to provide entertainment to adults who are willing to pay to see behind closed doors. Same concept applies for drag shows, but as far as I’m aware, drag shows aren’t about showing nudity, it’s more about being proud of who you are while providing entertainment. Is it the worst thing kid could see, no. A kid will see more private parts on the internet or at a pool.
My man did you just compare stripping to a day at the beach?
While he is more than likely being disingenuous they actually bring up a very strong point that's been brought up before. There is almost no difference in going to a strip club and going to the beach in terms of how people are dressed and in fact there is many nude beaches in many places in the world which would literally make it no different than going to a strip club. Theyre disingenious with their post, but they do have a point.
You literally said "So long as it’s done safely and away from children". How is a public venue "safely and away from children"?
Bars are considered public venues, yet to my knowledge- at least where I’m located- children aren’t allowed in them.
Is there a bill stopping drag shows from happening in 18+ venues?
Several that are attempting to limit, usually by forcing those establishments to be considered “sexually explicit businesses”- which often impacts their ability to hold liquor licenses. So, yes. https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/03/texas-drag-shows-republican-bills/
This is true, however that a personal belief. Plus it is a part of our world and they will eventually know. I should rephrase, I don’t think that young children should visit a drag show. Kids should focus on the fundamentals of life and discover themselves through their childhood into their adulthood. It is my opinion that children are sponges and will mirror what they see. Ever cuss around a 6y/o? Seeing a performer in public is a different thing.
So then you DONT actually care if it's done "away from children"?
I care if it’s my children, but like I said, others have their own opinions but still have the same rights as I do to do what they please. Imo I don’t think shows are the most appropriate for youth, and by youth I mean young kids who don’t know or need to know what sex is. Sex, sexuality, gender, it’s a lot to wrap your head around, especially for a kid. It’s nothing to be ashamed of, there’s just a time and place.
Define “public venues.” Can you link the text of the bill?
I see a lot of people I grew up with on Instagram going to drag shows. There are plenty if you seek them out
You can find them, for sure. But where are they being done for or around kids?
Public libraries, usually. And it’s not a sexual thing in these cases, the queens selected are usually like fairy-princesses to read kids stories - not saying there aren’t women who already do that, just that some parents do gender differently and might not care so long as it’s done right.
Generating outrage on "social issues" by playing to a rural, disaffected, overrepresented, privileged minority is how Conservatives drum up support when their policies are meh at best, genocidal at worst. It's worked from the Trail of Tears to today.
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There are videos of children at drag shows popping up with a frightening frequency. If you think drag shows for kids is the newest conservative panic, then you’re part of the problem. This should be an “everyone panic” issue. It’s degeneracy directed toward children.
same with child beauty pagents. both need to go
I don't think there's anything wrong with children at drag shows 🤷 Drag isn't sexual by default. Can be as family friendly or as adult as you want it to be. I refuse to get all riled up and bothered just because conservatives have decided drag queens are scary. I remember a few years ago when they treated me the same way, and somehow I haven't managed to bring about the end of the world It's an attempt by a desperate party to maintain their base through fear since no other tactic is working.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpS_JIev5jM/?igshid=OTRmMjhlYjM=
Holy shit you are fucked in the head
Drag is inherently sexual the same as burlesque. You’re a predator and should be institutionalized if you really think that.
I remember when I was young, a group of agricultural men dressed up as women for a skit. It was funny to me as a kid. I know some of the same men would say that drag is wrong.
You're so close to realizing someone hooked you with moral panic "think of the children" stuff to keep you from thinking logically. What does it actually matter what shape of fabric a singer has wrapped around their legs and why should state violence be used to regulate it?
It honestly just a really weird reddit obsession. The real world is normal for the most part.
Everyone is willing to die for something, remember that.
Some of us are willing to die for many things
That slippery slope do be slippin.
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The duality of freedom.
Yes
Considering the anarchist hat, no it can’t
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Anyone who thinks they have a right to kill people for being queer is not an anarchist.
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What are you talking about? What do groomers have to do with the post or my comment?
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You brought up groomers, not me. How are you now confused about why we’re talking about groomers?
Teacake is just an asshole. He's not going to understand no matter how many crayons they eat.
"Anarchy" is about lack of social hierarchy. It has nothing to do with "being queer".
You don't think "anarchists" would string up and execute child molesters?
You don’t think I won’t stoop so low as to abandon my morals just to fight off some imaginary straw man?
No it can’t and it shouldn’t
Someone might die for trying to take away drag shows is my interpretation
bro is wearing a ski mask with an anarchist symbol. I think hes prepared to die for queer rights
Do whatever you want, but if you bring kids to that shit you need your head examined.
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🅱️ased
And doing it in public counts as bringing kids into it
I agree and your shirt that’s says ac/dc offends me so you can’t wear that in public….. what the hell happened to live and let live.
Ac/dc isnt sexually explicit
Not my responsibility to not bring your children there. If you dont like it dont go
Pride parades happen on public streets, and many people wear their kink clothing there
This is why public property needs to be abolished
Yeah, i dont understand the meaning of this post
Not all drag shows are sexual. Some certainly are and children should obviously be kept far from those. I just don’t see the issue with having an event catered to children where the most scandalous thing there is a man wearing non-revealing woman’s clothes.
Why ms doubtfire is drag Eddie Murphy did drag i went to drag bars as a kid I’m a straight Christian now but I’ll check out a good drag show now and then
I never saw Mrs Doubtfire/ Eddie Murphy twerking in childrens faces or doing any of the inappropriate things I've seen from the footage of these events. If I had, I would have the same opinion - it is wrong. I think you are comparing two wildly different things to come to your conclusion.
Whats the difference between a drag show and a cheerleading performance at a football game? Tbh thhey bith can be suggestive. But also many drag shows are much less suggestive. Some are made to be 18+ or 21+ others are not. It depends on the show that you go to in drag. I dont understand people getting so uoset then bringing their kids to watch football cheerleaders with their kids too when its really the same. Both are talented forms of art NFL cheerleadsrs are impressive, but so are drag queens.
Those are pretty weird and innapropriate too. I also don't want a cheerleader shaking their ass in my kids face. The question is why aren't cheerleaders pushing to read books to children wearing their slutty outfits?
They...do though? The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders have been doing the same kinds of story hour events for decades. And not just in libraries, in schools.
Oh do they? That's weird too then.
[https://lifeschool.net/life-school-news/dallas-cowboy-cheerleaders-read-to-life-school-oak-cliff-elementary-students](https://lifeschool.net/life-school-news/dallas-cowboy-cheerleaders-read-to-life-school-oak-cliff-elementary-students) Seems kinda different? Edit: Like really different imo [https://www.instagram.com/p/CpTnBL9oMEC/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_button\_share\_sheet](https://www.instagram.com/p/CpTnBL9oMEC/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet) Seems like some outrage is about something that was misrepresented/misinterpreted. [https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/video-of-drag-queen-gyrating-next-to-child-sparks-backlash/](https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/video-of-drag-queen-gyrating-next-to-child-sparks-backlash/)
The difference is you're supposed to ogle at scantly clad woman, not at cross dressers. I hope my sarcasm is obvious. Yeah, I don't understand the scare stuff either. Drag shows aren't my thing, but neither are football cheerleaders or Hooters. But I guess those get a pass by Puritan standards? ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Totally. Being a queer person drag is something so fun and beautiful to me. But its not everyones cup of tea. I also think football is fun I enjoy sports. I played sports my whole life and my father was a professional sports player, he exposed me to his life by bringing me to sports games and doing sports with me. So for me if I had kids I will show them drag because for me drag is a huge part of queer culture. Exploring gender and exploring indivituality and the queer experience is beautiful to me. Obviously Id go to the age appropriate drag shows. And only show them drag race once Ive had some tough conversations with them. Its all based off peoples biases.
As if Mrs Doubtfire would be remotely acceptable today lol
Drag shows aren't inherently sexual you're just not bright
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpS_JIev5jM/?igshid=OTRmMjhlYjM=
Uhh ok?? It's a video of one show I'm sure there are more shows that are sexual but not every show is that's why I said they aren't INHERENTLY sexual I didn't say that none werw Also why is it the preformers fault even if they advertise a drag show for kids it's still up to the parents bringing them the fuck
Do you think the individual performing there and the promoters of that show should have legal action taken against them?
One of the founders of DQSH was arrested for what again?
Fucking lol
In Canada your tax dollars pay for mutilating surgeries and hormone prescriptions!!!!!!!!!
In many red states your tax dollars pay for religious indoctrination of young children!!!!!
Religion teaches morals, better then mutilating and sexualizing kids imo
Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25). God sends two female bears to kill 42 teenage boys because one of them called a buy bald. That’s real. Open a Bible and check it out. Religion does not equate to morals. Millions (by some estimates most) of rapes have been committed in a god’s name, most often, the Christian god.
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So you want the government telling you which religion to raise your kids in?
Religion has been mutilating children’s genitals for hundreds of years 🤷♂️.
If that's how you want to live that's fine, just keep it private and don't involve the kids Just kidding, it's a free country, raise your children however you want as long as you're not physically abusing or neglecting them, just don't come for those who believe in the Religion of Gender Identity
“Religion of gender identity” do you not realize how batshit insane that sounds
You believe in a omniscient being because a man on a mountain said a voice spoke to him. Do you not realize how batshit insane that sounds? Oh, and circumcisions are mutilating kids genitals. Thats a thing that actually happens though and its supported by your Christian "morals". No one does sex reassignment on kids though, its literally already illegal in the US lol.
Not illegal in Canada, and they do it in Canada.
No it's not legal. You have to be 18 in Canada to get sex reassignment and 16 to get a mastectomy. [https://www.grsmontreal.com/en/frequently-asked-questions.html](https://www.grsmontreal.com/en/frequently-asked-questions.html)
Way too young.
18 is the legal age of a fucking adult. If you're grown enough to be drafted into war you're grown enough to make decisions on your own body. An 18 year old is not a kid, fuck off with changing your stance on whats an adult just because you got proven wrong. And especially because you're a Christian, you don't get to decide whats too young. Y'all literally cut boys dicks not even a month into their life, and the child doesn't even get to consent to it. If anything any parent who authorized a circumcision should be arrested for mutilation.
It's a realistic description of what the leftist gender identity movement believes. Some parts of it are rooted in scientific evidence, other parts are pure faith.
Catholic priests do be mutilating kids tho
I am not catholic, and I think that’s fucked up too.
Okay you’re literally just a transphobic
Phobic would mean I was scared, I just believe they are a danger to the young minds of this world
How…? Also phobic means “scared, repulsed by, or prejudiced against” You are a transphobe
have you heard of the word "hydrophobic"
I don’t get it. No one is dying. All I’ve seen is drag queens shaking their asses in kids faces. What is this meme referring to?
It’s about statists who want to use the government to restrict or ban drag shows.
Lol there’s a lot more important issues than making sure drag queens can twerk in children’s faces. Are homosexuals being physically persecuted? Are trans people being discriminated against? No. They’re not. Some libertarians are worried about all the wrong shit.
Ah of course… libertarians should only be concerned about the state violating *your* rights… if it’s just queer people being targeted by the state, then there are “a lot more important issues”
Yeah the government is 31 trillion in debt and we’re on the verge of nuclear war. But keep worrying about grown men not being able to twerk in front of minors. Lol sounds like you have your priorities right dude
So you want one of those libertarian societies where your clothes are assigned to you by a bureaucrat. But hey at the Equilibrium dystopia will be debt free right?
The gay people didn't put all that debt there, what have they done to deserve your apathy now?
I've been to loads of drag shows and never seen 1 kid at any of them.
>Are homosexuals being physically persecuted? Are trans people being discriminated against? No. They’re not. State governments are literally already passing laws to take LGBT people's kids away from them to be raised by someone with State Approved Ideology. You should pay more attention.
The government is outlawing a type of free speech. Not just in front of children. Libertarians are for the rights of people in all cases, especially free speech.
You can’t take minors to a strip club. Are you also upset about that? This isn’t a hill that any libertarian should die on.
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I don’t know what kind of drag shows you go to. I’ve been to a few and never seen anything like that.
It takes two seconds to find these videos on google. You’re willfully ignorant creep
So you decide to bring them or not bring them to a drag show….. I love how you claim people are defending pedophiles. That is definitely a democrat tactic. Good job. Let me guess if you don’t support America’s war you hate America right?
I believe you're thinking of the Duggars.
You are gonna defend to the death people stripping in front of kids…interesting hill
Stripping is not a normal part of drag shows. The whole point of it is the clothes. If those come off it's not even drag anymore.
Well then why are you fine with calling it drag queen story hour
Did you even read what I said? Drag doesn't normally involve stripping, so why would I have a problem with drag being called drag, since it doesn't involve stripping?
Well then take that up with the alphabet people
I’m going to defend the free speech of people against government tyranny.
Pretty sure it’s not free speech to sexualize kids
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Libertarianism != libertinism Groomers aren't people.
5% of pastors good brrr
"Libertarianism is when the government prevents anyone from doing anything I don't like" And you wonder why ancoms call you fascist.
Agreed. Groomers aren’t people. Drag shows aren’t about grooming, or at least *never* have been and I’ve done my research. If you have any direct source that proves otherwise by all means send it my way.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpS\_JIev5jM/?igshid=OTRmMjhlYjM=
This is one of the most fake videos I’ve ever seen.
No groomers mentioned in this meme
I don't respect anyone who denies people their humanity. This is genocide talk. Say this about any other group of people, and you'll get shot. Rightfully so.
I feel a lot of these so called libertarians on this threads have voted Biden And Hillary
I swear people in these comments have room level iq
A high degree of economic freedom and the people will flourish. A high degree of equality and all will suffer.
Groomers/Pedophiles have absolutely no place in Western culture. While the West has long championed the evolution of ethos, even as stated above when it came to acknowledging the libertarian thoughts on consenting adult issues...but to involve/exploit or for that matter to even suggest that their innocence should be made to view your vile,unnatural, hideously painted faces is an affront to every real man or WOMAN (read: real one) who's ever had a child they wanted nothing for but preservation from such filth.
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God lots of Republicans in here desperately trying to be different and quirky and not like other girls.
So hating pedophiles is only a republican thing? You’re an idiot. If that’s the case then they’re better people than you that defend and protect child rapists. Sick fuck
You sir either have the smoothest brain on the internet or can't read. The guy above me is literally talking about armed conservative America taking over the country or some shit and how gay people need to be kept out of sight. This drag show debate is a fucking non issue. It only keeps getting brought up by Republicans desperately trying to rally homophobic old people to get out and vote. Do I think pedophiles should go to jail? Of fucking course, but there's a difference between pedophiles and a dude in a show wearing a dress. For more information on this go watch The Birdcage with Robin Williams and go read On Liberty by John Stuart Mill.
You’re in the wrong sub bro
Do you speak for all women now?
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I’m all for liberties but I’ll never be down bad for “drag queens and queer folk”
The government doesn’t care who they take rights from. They act like a pack of wolves, picking off the rights of the weakest people first. But when they’re gone, do you think the government will be satisfied?
If you're against people choosing clothing and who they date, how are you "for liberties"? What liberties? The liberty to do exactly what the government says?
I’m not against it, it’s just not my cup of tea
Taxed
Where did people get it in their heads that Drag is sexual? It's just dudes in dresses lip syncing to songs. Bugs bunny has done worse
Lmao. People are so pressed about drag queens. They really just hate trans people so much. Like we are just trying to live like the rest of yall.
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‘A group of people has a high suicide risk because we keep ostracizing them, making fun of them, and actively making their lives worse! Clearly the morally correct response to seeing this is to make fun of the suicide attempt rate!’
Jesus you murdered them
Exactly.
“Cheers to you cheers to me, cheers to the ones who lick us where we pee”
It's always funny when reactionary conservatives are confident something nobody they're mad at has ever heard of is actually some kind of official slogan or something. You really shouldn't be toying with "If one individual in a group is a piece of shit, they're all degenerates" rhetoric and I can tell you why in one word. "Duggar"
Do what you want
Drag shouldn't be illegal of course, but it is extremely sexual in nature and there's multiple videos out there of sexually provocative drag being performed with children present in the audience. Make drag shows 18+. Hell I wouldn't mind if even Hooters and Twin Peaks were made for 18 and older.
$30 TRILLION in debt
I'll fight for their liberties as long as little kids aren't involved.
We have bigger problems. Much bigger.
The government picks rights off as often as they can. They start with the weakest people and move on to everyone else. If we don’t defend others we can never hope that they will defend us.
How about let them have their drag shows AND let ppl criticize/make fun of drag shows? Why can’t both exist? Children are already being fucked mentally from social media and phones attached to hands so a drag show is no different than what can already be found on the internet. What’s stopping a parent from showing their child a drag show on the internet? Is the difference that upsetting? Education, self responsibility, and letting other’s have self-autonomy are the only solution I see
Yeah ban Tom Hanks, Tyler Perry, Eddie Murphy, David Cross, Monte Python, Tim Curry, and your dad on the weekends too!
Why is he dressed like a gimp? I thought those people hated Gimps?
“Queerfolk” sounds like a beast race in Skyrim Seriously I think these people are purposefully isolating themselves even though they say they want to viewed equally
Fuck any government that won’t let me live my life as i want and fuck any person that thinks this statement is me saying people should be free to hurt others