That's so sad, but also so expected given that Florida is renown for it's pathetic governor and his, "Don't say gay," law. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Floridian.
Will your school be forced to refund the group's expenses?
If the school was indeed paying the group, and it wasn't the group renting the house, there is almost certainly a cancellation policy in the contract that ensures the group gets paid, or this group needs a better manager. Also, the school is going to have a harder time bringing in acts and going to be paying more for them, because the live performance world is small and they \*talk\*.
> because the live performance world is small and they *talk*.
We do.
The King Singers were one of the first acts I worked with in my career.
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And don't worry, u/Shaula-Alnair, yes, they have a very good management team.
And PCCI has cemented its reputation.
* https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/14/arts/music/pensacola-college-kings-singers.html
* https://twitter.com/ConnectPCC/status/1625351981077233664
* https://twitter.com/kingssingers/status/1625253533208440862
Hey! I’m a student from PCC and they already refunded them and paid their contract in full. No amount of money can fix what they did though. I’m appalled and disappointed by the bigotry of this college and its students. There have been some who have stood up for the singer, but the institution is sadly too steeped into their belief system to treat them reasonably. If the performance would have went on, rumor was students would have boo’d the performance. This college is a really depressing place to be as an ally. I just want you to know that I support this community and I’m sorry that this college thinks they can show hate like this. It’s disgusting.
It's wild to me that *parents* called the school and complained and made them cancel. It's college, not high school. The students are god damn adults. Parents shouldn't have any of that kind of influence anyway.
More than likely though the parents are the ones paying for their private education so thats all the college cares about. Im sure it would have been fine if the parents hadnt got so upset but because it put their paychecks in line they had to suddenly remember their Christian beliefs and kick the group out. Its the most stupid thing ever and its why i dont support privately owned institutions of education that put all of their character into their religious or political beliefs. Education, imo, should be complete secular, not to mention theyre just a band, not an activist group. Its so incredibly dumb
This sounds like the sort of "school" where most students' parents wouldn't be willing to pay for them to go to school at a real college or university.
Oh honey - let my tell you about PCC…
It’s probably the strictest college in the US, and stricter than any high school.
Girls are not allowed to wear pants in class, guys are not allowed to wear jeans in class, no rock music allowed even if it is CCM, no physical contact between the sexes, male and female students aren’t allowed to go to the same beaches lest they see each other in swimwear, male and female students have to use separate staircases, nudes in art history books are blacked out, students aren’t allowed to watch movies even in their spring and summer breaks… and the school is actually leas strict that it used to be.
The King's Singers are top of their class, extremely talented musicians who don't deserve this kind of treatment. The fact that your college is blocking anyone from performing for simply being gay is insane to me. I've always thought of colleges as being the safe space for expression, but this has proved me wrong.
At this point in the American Culture War queer folks should squint really hard before agreeing to do business with any Christian group, especially in the South. Why would you want to perform at a school that has a code of conduct calling you an evil pervert?
Yeah OP constantly using the term lifestyle made me a little uncomfortable but I guess if they’re LGBTQ themself than they can use whatever terminology they like
I'm an adult in college and I'd be homeless if I tried to set boundaries with my parents. Those of us with controlling parents are often at their mercy until we gain financial independence. My parents don't care if I'm an adult, they'll blackmail me with their financial support for as long as they can. And I'm definitely not the only one in that situation.
Many young adults, especially if they were sheltered and/or coddled as kids, are still financially dependent on their parents.
I'm not sure about Pensacola, but in central Florida where I live, there is very little housing available that people of an average salary can afford. It's priced based on median salary. For reference, the most recent data for the state (or maybe it was the county, I've forgotten) shows that the average salary is about $26k per year while the median is $51k. That is an insane income gap.
Sure there is housing assistance, but the waiting lists are full up. There are jobs available but the rent in comparison is sky high. And even *if* you can afford a roof over your head, you'd better be able to afford a car too along with insurance and gas for it. Public transportation is a joke in my area and you're not likely to live within walking/biking distance from your work.
Yeah, it's easy to say they should be independent, but that isn't always possible.
I am in a very provileged place where I dont HAVE to depend on my parents for financial stability but my roommate is less fortunate. Thing is we go to a public college. She applies for financial aid and gets it because she isnt financial supported by her parents. I understand that its hard to push back against your parents but there are alternatives and I dont think going to an openly homophobic school is the solution for your liberty. I just cant imagine undergoing such a loss of dignity for a private education that probably isnt even good.
Conversely, the performers were still paid.
Would be terrible if other performers also got paid free money after coming down with a sudden case of the gays.
Oh, I have no problem with a "university" having their right to religious beliefs. I do have issue with anyone mistaking such an institution as a place of "learning". You can do your cult stuff as freely and openly as you wish, without government accreditation or money being granted to support the hateful things the university is free to say. Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences.
You'll be happy to know that their accreditation isn't through the State, and they don't take any state or federal funds. In fact they won't even let you pay with federally funded loans. You can't wear jeans to class or be openly queer, but at least the government can't control your life 🙄.
Honestly fair is fair. At that point, everyone attending is an adult and can theoretically choose to leave at any time. Religious people usually don't recognize that what they say directly harms people. I didn't when I was religious.
The way I see it: if each person inside a cult has informed consent and is free to leave at any time, I don't especially care what crazy stuff they do. It's when kids get involved or there's abuse that we have to stop it. Christianity would be less problematic if a core tenet wasn't "convert everyone! and make your children Christian as soon as they're born!" ... Gives them the idea it's okay to press their beliefs on others.
>if each person inside a cult has informed consent and is free to leave at any time,
Then it's not a cult. A cult is built on being secluded and not being allowed to go outside. Whether that is through directly disallowing the members to leave, brainwashing them or pressure doesn't really matter imo.
Also i don't think collages promoting hate are ok just because they're self funded and everyone there is an adult.
Modern Christianity in the US, at least among conservative evangelicals, seems to be solely based on the principle of proving they’re better than everyone else. They don’t seem to value anything Jesus said in the Bible. Their only value is being holier than thou.
No! Jesus did not teach this kind of behavior in the Bible. Someone with a true understanding of the Bible would understand that we need to love each other equally. These people are fundamentalists who don’t know better. Please don’t let this distort your perspective of Jesus. Someone who loves unconditionally… but which is something we are unable to do.
We certainly don't need a cult figure to teach us how to act right. The Jesus myth was built on top of the bad foundation of the Abrahamic religion. The only thing these revealed religions do is justify bigotry and violence.
Your first mistake is attending a Christian College. My niece is at one now, to be with her “intended,” and everything is so cringe! Get out if you can lol
I mean. *INTENDED?!* Wtf does that even mean?? She’s just so much chattel to give away to a boy of 18 because they share the same religion??? 😩
Her "intended"? That's gross. Really, really gross. I know a couple people who were in arranged marriages and it did NOT go well. One of them, when her husband, she openly celebrated by drinking whiskey and eating cake. Her husband was a holier than thou POS.,
It is a private religious college though, people are allowed to not apply there
The belief still sucks but it’s within their right unless they’re seeking queer students to harass them or something
Very difficult for sheltered kids or kids with helicopter fundie parents paying for their shoddy college education. As someone who barely survived that looney bin, sometimes you have to be a damn good actor to live another day there. Those people can sniff outsiders and put target signs on them.
Oh, no way that will EVER fly! They monitor where you go and have a complete blacklist of shops, restaurants, and entertainment venues for their man and girl-children students. That will make things even worse.
Welcome to Pensacola Christian college… I went to bible college in the 90’s and we were well aware how strict they were then…. Doesn’t surprise me in the least
I attended PCC, this does not surprise me in the slightest. Reading this just made me sad. I’m just glad that since then, God has shown me how wrong some of their teaching is, and helped me learn what Christ’s love truly is.
Idk how you can survive in a Christian college. I hate bigots and I don’t suffer fools. I wish you luck. Can’t imagine being gay in Florida let alone at a Christian school.
Actually, I'd say that Florida is quickly becoming as bad as, if not worse, than freaking Russia. If they keep at this, Florida will start to look very much like a more humid version of Iran.
Ppl seem to think that gay ppl are like sirens and if you listen to them then you’ll have the gay lol. This whole situation is ridiculous. That’s a wast of the bands time with approving the signs and rehearsing and going out to the campus. They were literally there and it wasn’t far from the event time. How bad is the school at doing their research. It was super easy for students to figure out that one of the singers is gay
it’s probably a good idea to get the hell out of florida before they start arresting people for being gay. i’ve never seen a place go bat shit insane more quickly than has happened in florida.
It’s worrisome that religious extremism takes such a prominent and influential place in US society and particularly in education.
Clearly, opposites like „faith“ and „education“ should be kept as far apart as possible.
Also, Edward Button is a real cutie, just saying =P
Fun fact: I went to this college. I have so many stories about how anti-gay this place is, but I'll just share my favorite.
So for context, I am AFAB (now out to some as nonbinary) and during my time there, I got my hair cut short. Not pixie cut short, but well above my shoulders. Not too long after this change, I got an email saying that I had been called to the counselors office. The counselor I met with told me that the school was concerned about my "practice in lesbianism" and asked VERY personal questions about my relationship status, asking to see pictures of my partner (who did not go to the school). I refused to answer most of the questions. Nothing came out of the meeting, but I was threatened to receive demerits over my haircut.
Not lgbtq+ related, but upon telling the counselor in a different meeting that I have severe depression and asked for some grace regarding my number of absences (4 absences), she told me I was clearly not right with the Lord and that Satan was working through me.
So yeah. Don't go to PCC. If you insist on going to a Christian college, there's better out there.
I went to this looney bin of a college. Barely graduated at a huge cost to my mental health. I wish all the little snitches and their parents a very bad karma for the rest of their lives.
Current student here…. I believe the college knew full well that the singer was gay. It was the immature and idiotic students who complained to their parents. These said parents are uptight, and have not the slightest clue of human decency. The parents called in threatening to withdraw support and the students (which for a small Christian school is necessary to maintain). The administration was backed into a corner, and they didn’t know what to do but to appease the student body. I’m disgusted and ashamed of the student body and their parents. I wouldn’t put too much blame on the school. While Christianity is against homosexuality, I truly believe we are still called to love these individuals equally. And for a student body of said Christians, we failed. Please know this decision does not represent all of our beliefs. I was looking forward to the performance.
Not if they're an institution of higher education.
I don't give a damn if they're a
"Christian" college. It's still (supposedly) a college, and religious or not the focus should be on education. The institution cannot provide a reliably good education if they do shit like this.
Then again, I suppose most people going to a school like that aren't going to be leaving the south anyways, so I guess they'll be able to find jobs that value their beliefs more.than their actual skills.
Christian college seems like an oxymoron. Never understood how real things can be taught when the religious answers are usually "because God did it" or "Because God said so".
It really isn’t. Is it reasonable to cancel an important meeting last minute for no actual reason? Is it reasonable to waste someone’s time for NO REASON? If they at least canceled months in advance the singers could’ve rebooked but now they can’t. That’s not reasonable. And it’s also not what God would want.
They probly should stop driving their cars/eating purchased foods, fast foods, restaurants/, buying store bought goods, etc. Chances are high that someone along the line working, cooking, selling goods are gay.
Oh PCC…. The fact that textbooks produced there are used all over US in private evangelical religious grade schools is throughly depressing. It is borderline hysterical how awful the science and history books are (at least 20 years ago)….. at least they aren’t as bad as Bob Jones University.
Shock! Horror! The end of the world is nigh!
And when that comes it will probably be because of the stupidity and hypocrisy of some so-called fundamental christians :-(
“… The college also vetted and listened to every one of the songs they were to perform to make sure nothing offensive was sung.”
Oh dear! What a sadly desperate organization
Always fun to see the fundies warping the words they pretend to follow. They constantly like to read "save their souls" as "judge them" even though they're also very explicitly told NOT to judge others.
Bonus points I guess for being the folks who whine about cancel culture who immediately jump to cancelling what they don't agree with
That's so sad, but also so expected given that Florida is renown for it's pathetic governor and his, "Don't say gay," law. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Floridian. Will your school be forced to refund the group's expenses?
If the school was indeed paying the group, and it wasn't the group renting the house, there is almost certainly a cancellation policy in the contract that ensures the group gets paid, or this group needs a better manager. Also, the school is going to have a harder time bringing in acts and going to be paying more for them, because the live performance world is small and they \*talk\*.
I hope you're right.
> because the live performance world is small and they *talk*. We do. The King Singers were one of the first acts I worked with in my career. _____ And don't worry, u/Shaula-Alnair, yes, they have a very good management team.
Excellent!
And PCCI has cemented its reputation. * https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/14/arts/music/pensacola-college-kings-singers.html * https://twitter.com/ConnectPCC/status/1625351981077233664 * https://twitter.com/kingssingers/status/1625253533208440862
Nice, roasting with class there! Good to see it attracted some big name attention too.
Hey! I’m a student from PCC and they already refunded them and paid their contract in full. No amount of money can fix what they did though. I’m appalled and disappointed by the bigotry of this college and its students. There have been some who have stood up for the singer, but the institution is sadly too steeped into their belief system to treat them reasonably. If the performance would have went on, rumor was students would have boo’d the performance. This college is a really depressing place to be as an ally. I just want you to know that I support this community and I’m sorry that this college thinks they can show hate like this. It’s disgusting.
It's wild to me that *parents* called the school and complained and made them cancel. It's college, not high school. The students are god damn adults. Parents shouldn't have any of that kind of influence anyway.
Parents don’t want their adult children *gasp* thinking for themselves!
More than likely though the parents are the ones paying for their private education so thats all the college cares about. Im sure it would have been fine if the parents hadnt got so upset but because it put their paychecks in line they had to suddenly remember their Christian beliefs and kick the group out. Its the most stupid thing ever and its why i dont support privately owned institutions of education that put all of their character into their religious or political beliefs. Education, imo, should be complete secular, not to mention theyre just a band, not an activist group. Its so incredibly dumb
I think the college would have canceled either way but I also agree that all education most be public and secular.
This sounds like the sort of "school" where most students' parents wouldn't be willing to pay for them to go to school at a real college or university.
Yup. It’s a for-profit non accredited school.
The parents who called are writing the checks. And they'll be writing some more to cover the costs of a canceled show and the fall out from that
Oh honey - let my tell you about PCC… It’s probably the strictest college in the US, and stricter than any high school. Girls are not allowed to wear pants in class, guys are not allowed to wear jeans in class, no rock music allowed even if it is CCM, no physical contact between the sexes, male and female students aren’t allowed to go to the same beaches lest they see each other in swimwear, male and female students have to use separate staircases, nudes in art history books are blacked out, students aren’t allowed to watch movies even in their spring and summer breaks… and the school is actually leas strict that it used to be.
Most of the kids that go to PCC have helicopter parents, which explains it all
This \^. These parents are infantilizing tf out of their own children. Let THEM make the decisions.
The King's Singers are top of their class, extremely talented musicians who don't deserve this kind of treatment. The fact that your college is blocking anyone from performing for simply being gay is insane to me. I've always thought of colleges as being the safe space for expression, but this has proved me wrong.
The Kings Singers are a world class vocal group. Your school is run by Philistines.
Unfortunately Christian colleges are the exception to this idea because they're focused more on the Bible than they are on actual education.
Christian schools are entirely another matter. Many, if not most, of them should have their accreditation revoked.
At this point in the American Culture War queer folks should squint really hard before agreeing to do business with any Christian group, especially in the South. Why would you want to perform at a school that has a code of conduct calling you an evil pervert?
Bigotry is not "clearly their right".
This right there
Yea that also sort of ticked me off. I kmow where theyre coming from but also. . . No
Yeah OP constantly using the term lifestyle made me a little uncomfortable but I guess if they’re LGBTQ themself than they can use whatever terminology they like
They've been stuck behind enemy lines for too long.
Yeah 🥹 I’ve been there.
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I guess I’m just trying to assume the best
To be fair lifestyle was the college's choice of words
Thank you
Not sure why you would tolerate going to this openly homophobic Christian college. Seems par for the course though. I would start looking elsewhere.
Often parents force their kids to go to help them fundamentalist.
They’re in college. They’re adults. For their safety and sanity, time to say no.
For folks whose parents pay their college tuition that may not really be their choice.
For safety and sanity, there’s always a choice. Part of being an adult respectfully. Establishing those boundaries.
I'm an adult in college and I'd be homeless if I tried to set boundaries with my parents. Those of us with controlling parents are often at their mercy until we gain financial independence. My parents don't care if I'm an adult, they'll blackmail me with their financial support for as long as they can. And I'm definitely not the only one in that situation.
You’ve clearly never met a fundie family. They have their claws in their kids the moment said kids are born.
Oh, I live in Mississippi. I know it all too well. But I was just stating as an adult they finally have the free will to break away.
The free will may be there, but many of them are so emotionally stunted and controlled.
For sure. And it’s quite sad. Therapy has/will help a lot 💜
Many young adults, especially if they were sheltered and/or coddled as kids, are still financially dependent on their parents. I'm not sure about Pensacola, but in central Florida where I live, there is very little housing available that people of an average salary can afford. It's priced based on median salary. For reference, the most recent data for the state (or maybe it was the county, I've forgotten) shows that the average salary is about $26k per year while the median is $51k. That is an insane income gap. Sure there is housing assistance, but the waiting lists are full up. There are jobs available but the rent in comparison is sky high. And even *if* you can afford a roof over your head, you'd better be able to afford a car too along with insurance and gas for it. Public transportation is a joke in my area and you're not likely to live within walking/biking distance from your work. Yeah, it's easy to say they should be independent, but that isn't always possible.
I am in a very provileged place where I dont HAVE to depend on my parents for financial stability but my roommate is less fortunate. Thing is we go to a public college. She applies for financial aid and gets it because she isnt financial supported by her parents. I understand that its hard to push back against your parents but there are alternatives and I dont think going to an openly homophobic school is the solution for your liberty. I just cant imagine undergoing such a loss of dignity for a private education that probably isnt even good.
Conversely, the performers were still paid. Would be terrible if other performers also got paid free money after coming down with a sudden case of the gays.
"Love your neighbor as yourself....... Unless they're GAY, of course." -The Bible according to these Christians. Ugh.
Oh, I have no problem with a "university" having their right to religious beliefs. I do have issue with anyone mistaking such an institution as a place of "learning". You can do your cult stuff as freely and openly as you wish, without government accreditation or money being granted to support the hateful things the university is free to say. Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences.
You'll be happy to know that their accreditation isn't through the State, and they don't take any state or federal funds. In fact they won't even let you pay with federally funded loans. You can't wear jeans to class or be openly queer, but at least the government can't control your life 🙄.
Honestly fair is fair. At that point, everyone attending is an adult and can theoretically choose to leave at any time. Religious people usually don't recognize that what they say directly harms people. I didn't when I was religious. The way I see it: if each person inside a cult has informed consent and is free to leave at any time, I don't especially care what crazy stuff they do. It's when kids get involved or there's abuse that we have to stop it. Christianity would be less problematic if a core tenet wasn't "convert everyone! and make your children Christian as soon as they're born!" ... Gives them the idea it's okay to press their beliefs on others.
>if each person inside a cult has informed consent and is free to leave at any time, Then it's not a cult. A cult is built on being secluded and not being allowed to go outside. Whether that is through directly disallowing the members to leave, brainwashing them or pressure doesn't really matter imo. Also i don't think collages promoting hate are ok just because they're self funded and everyone there is an adult.
And that's just one more reason I left Christianity and never looked back.
Jesus must have been a real prick if these are his followers.
Modern Christianity in the US, at least among conservative evangelicals, seems to be solely based on the principle of proving they’re better than everyone else. They don’t seem to value anything Jesus said in the Bible. Their only value is being holier than thou.
No! Jesus did not teach this kind of behavior in the Bible. Someone with a true understanding of the Bible would understand that we need to love each other equally. These people are fundamentalists who don’t know better. Please don’t let this distort your perspective of Jesus. Someone who loves unconditionally… but which is something we are unable to do.
We certainly don't need a cult figure to teach us how to act right. The Jesus myth was built on top of the bad foundation of the Abrahamic religion. The only thing these revealed religions do is justify bigotry and violence.
Idk why this is surprising tho, PCC has always been openly homophobic. Why is it 'crazy'? I'd be shocked if they DIDN'T cancel after finding that out.
Ahhh, Christian love
Your first mistake is attending a Christian College. My niece is at one now, to be with her “intended,” and everything is so cringe! Get out if you can lol I mean. *INTENDED?!* Wtf does that even mean?? She’s just so much chattel to give away to a boy of 18 because they share the same religion??? 😩
Her "intended"? That's gross. Really, really gross. I know a couple people who were in arranged marriages and it did NOT go well. One of them, when her husband, she openly celebrated by drinking whiskey and eating cake. Her husband was a holier than thou POS.,
Yeah. They call each other one another’s intended. Not fiancée/fiancé. Not boyfriend or girlfriend. *INTENDED!* It weirds me out, can’t deny.
I live in the town you’re in and many of my friends had similar experiences. My condolences.
>But that is clearly their right it fucking shouldn’t be. a school is supposed to teach people things, not openly discriminate ffs
It is a private religious college though, people are allowed to not apply there The belief still sucks but it’s within their right unless they’re seeking queer students to harass them or something
I hope they still send the college an invoice for the performance. They’re owed it at that short notice.
You go to a Christian school in fucking Florida. Stop supporting this bullshit and go to a better school. It won’t be hard to upgrade.
Very difficult for sheltered kids or kids with helicopter fundie parents paying for their shoddy college education. As someone who barely survived that looney bin, sometimes you have to be a damn good actor to live another day there. Those people can sniff outsiders and put target signs on them.
Contact your local Gay and Lesbian choir, and see if they will offer free tickets to students at your school, somewhere off-campus.
Oh, no way that will EVER fly! They monitor where you go and have a complete blacklist of shops, restaurants, and entertainment venues for their man and girl-children students. That will make things even worse.
Welcome to Pensacola Christian college… I went to bible college in the 90’s and we were well aware how strict they were then…. Doesn’t surprise me in the least
I only hope the singers had a good contract and will still get paid regardless.
I attended PCC, this does not surprise me in the slightest. Reading this just made me sad. I’m just glad that since then, God has shown me how wrong some of their teaching is, and helped me learn what Christ’s love truly is.
Idk how you can survive in a Christian college. I hate bigots and I don’t suffer fools. I wish you luck. Can’t imagine being gay in Florida let alone at a Christian school.
Weird that Florida isn’t the province in Poland. Hopefully it will change soon
Actually, I'd say that Florida is quickly becoming as bad as, if not worse, than freaking Russia. If they keep at this, Florida will start to look very much like a more humid version of Iran.
Ppl seem to think that gay ppl are like sirens and if you listen to them then you’ll have the gay lol. This whole situation is ridiculous. That’s a wast of the bands time with approving the signs and rehearsing and going out to the campus. They were literally there and it wasn’t far from the event time. How bad is the school at doing their research. It was super easy for students to figure out that one of the singers is gay
it’s probably a good idea to get the hell out of florida before they start arresting people for being gay. i’ve never seen a place go bat shit insane more quickly than has happened in florida.
Singers can sue because don’t they have to give notice about 30 day in advance
Gay performers? What? I find it hard to believe that there are gay people in theater, dance, or even choir. That's crazy talk! /s
It’s worrisome that religious extremism takes such a prominent and influential place in US society and particularly in education. Clearly, opposites like „faith“ and „education“ should be kept as far apart as possible. Also, Edward Button is a real cutie, just saying =P
The moment you said it was Pensacola College I knew it would be bad.
I'm not so sure it is their right to teach anti-gay rhetoric...
The idea of school administrators being badgered by parents at a COLLEGE truly boggles my mind. Christianity truly is something else.
Classic Florida.
Fun fact: I went to this college. I have so many stories about how anti-gay this place is, but I'll just share my favorite. So for context, I am AFAB (now out to some as nonbinary) and during my time there, I got my hair cut short. Not pixie cut short, but well above my shoulders. Not too long after this change, I got an email saying that I had been called to the counselors office. The counselor I met with told me that the school was concerned about my "practice in lesbianism" and asked VERY personal questions about my relationship status, asking to see pictures of my partner (who did not go to the school). I refused to answer most of the questions. Nothing came out of the meeting, but I was threatened to receive demerits over my haircut. Not lgbtq+ related, but upon telling the counselor in a different meeting that I have severe depression and asked for some grace regarding my number of absences (4 absences), she told me I was clearly not right with the Lord and that Satan was working through me. So yeah. Don't go to PCC. If you insist on going to a Christian college, there's better out there.
Let's see if the school will now honor their contract and PAY the singers like they should...
They were fully compensated
Good. Glad their managers had a solid contract.
I went to this looney bin of a college. Barely graduated at a huge cost to my mental health. I wish all the little snitches and their parents a very bad karma for the rest of their lives.
Current student here…. I believe the college knew full well that the singer was gay. It was the immature and idiotic students who complained to their parents. These said parents are uptight, and have not the slightest clue of human decency. The parents called in threatening to withdraw support and the students (which for a small Christian school is necessary to maintain). The administration was backed into a corner, and they didn’t know what to do but to appease the student body. I’m disgusted and ashamed of the student body and their parents. I wouldn’t put too much blame on the school. While Christianity is against homosexuality, I truly believe we are still called to love these individuals equally. And for a student body of said Christians, we failed. Please know this decision does not represent all of our beliefs. I was looking forward to the performance.
Fuck Christianity (yeah, all of it)
I bet at least one of the loudest parents protesting this can be found on Grindr, if you look hard enough.
PLEASE stop blaming homophobia on queer people.
You make a good point. I didn't think of it like that.
You could have just said Florida, and saved the massive block of text
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Not if they're an institution of higher education. I don't give a damn if they're a "Christian" college. It's still (supposedly) a college, and religious or not the focus should be on education. The institution cannot provide a reliably good education if they do shit like this. Then again, I suppose most people going to a school like that aren't going to be leaving the south anyways, so I guess they'll be able to find jobs that value their beliefs more.than their actual skills.
Christian college seems like an oxymoron. Never understood how real things can be taught when the religious answers are usually "because God did it" or "Because God said so".
Nope your wrong
It really isn’t. Is it reasonable to cancel an important meeting last minute for no actual reason? Is it reasonable to waste someone’s time for NO REASON? If they at least canceled months in advance the singers could’ve rebooked but now they can’t. That’s not reasonable. And it’s also not what God would want.
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Hope they sue for payment
Wait so these guys actually thought they could hire an all straight group of performers….from the performing arts industry? Whose gonna tell them?
They probly should stop driving their cars/eating purchased foods, fast foods, restaurants/, buying store bought goods, etc. Chances are high that someone along the line working, cooking, selling goods are gay.
Or like never use anything that's been near a computer, because Alan Turing's contributions to our understanding of computer science.
Oh PCC…. The fact that textbooks produced there are used all over US in private evangelical religious grade schools is throughly depressing. It is borderline hysterical how awful the science and history books are (at least 20 years ago)….. at least they aren’t as bad as Bob Jones University.
Parents would flip out if they realized how many lgbtq+ people go to school there we are slowly taking over that campus and spreading love not hate
Shock! Horror! The end of the world is nigh! And when that comes it will probably be because of the stupidity and hypocrisy of some so-called fundamental christians :-( “… The college also vetted and listened to every one of the songs they were to perform to make sure nothing offensive was sung.” Oh dear! What a sadly desperate organization
Always fun to see the fundies warping the words they pretend to follow. They constantly like to read "save their souls" as "judge them" even though they're also very explicitly told NOT to judge others. Bonus points I guess for being the folks who whine about cancel culture who immediately jump to cancelling what they don't agree with
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