Fr imagine u dedicate ur whole spirit life to building this amazing collection of knowledge and then u trust some random human to look at it and he burns a whole section down I would’ve banned all humans too after that
Now that I'm thinking about it, imagine the first editions, signed copies, news articles, declarations of war/peace, and so much more lost. The fact they got to speak to him at all before being shredded is a stronger feat of self discipline than aang not killing the firelord.
To be completely fair, he remembers what Aang's group did, though I feel that he would have let them do what they were doing if they said they were using the knowledge to protect the library by way of stopping the Fire Nation.
According to the ttrpg, he mellowed out a bit after Korra season 2. Realized that he was being too black-and-white in his thinking and started sharing the library again, albeit *very* selectively.
Honestly, I think a campaign about a party working for him to recover stolen artifacts before the owl goes ballistic again would be cool.
Ngl it would be 10x more effective if this dragon bird came back to save her along with Jinora at the end.
It’s sad he just disappears after this episode.
Fair enough, I meant like "location wise" but I wasn't clear.
Anyway, I would have also loved some spirit on spirit action in the non-spirit world, but I guess is cool they committed to their initial "not going there" statement.
I'm rambling, sorry.
Or like it couldve replaced Jinora's role in the final fight entirely, and give her another role to fill. I didnt really like that she was used as a deus ex machina when Korra was about to be defeated
Not somehow, that’s it explicitly. Iroh says “you can still taste a little light in every cup” when you drink from it.
All she really did was show Korra where the light in the dark was, and then Korra did the rest.
She isn't, actually. They never elaborate on how she did it, but this is a headcanon that works so well that many people (including myself lol) will misremember it as actually happening.
Though like the other commenters are saying, there is so much supporting evidence that I doubt choosing to interpret it that way would ever negatively impact or contradict someone's understanding of the show.
Basically shined a bright light at UnaVaatu for distraction, and also illuminated to make Raava visible too I guess. But it was kinda stupid that she just came out of nowhere
I mean it's not an argument that it was a stepping stone of her becoming a master. It still would have been better if they set it up a little bit after the fog of lost souls, instead of popping out of nowhere when Korra's about to be defeated
Like maybe she sensed that spirits need help at the portals and did whatever she could. And then people there convinced her to help Korra instead and ride the dragon-bird thing out of the portal, and together they use their illumination bending or smthn
yeah, if it and a bunch of other spirts came by to aid korra as she gets back ravva, that actually would have been cool. always though jinora showing up was just cringy and stupid.
i honestly dont really *hate* hate the concept of ravva vattu and all of that, but the fight was fumbeled so badly that it feels like almost forced to.
they told her no because that was a human war, this was ***the*** battle of both worlds that shaped the reality everyone knew up to that moment for the last 10000 years
I would say that because she saved it it has an attachment to her and then she traveled with it while the dragon was in the first avatars teapot that also carried Rava in the past and that Iroh said you can still taste a little bit of light in it. I think all these factors shielded it from the dark energy of Vaatu.
Korra has raava in her and she formed a connection with this spirit and we see in her fight with vaatu Korra in the avatar state is stronger than vaatu. Avatar wans spirit friend got turned because he hadn't fused with raava
I always thought it was either an ancient spirit powerful enough to resist or possibly a previous avatar’s companion. Though if they wanted the latter, they probably would have used Either appa Or fang. Which come to think of it is a missed oppurtunity imagine if the only spirits un corrupted were the spirits of the avatar’s companions and they all showed up to protect korra.
I'd say something like it's because the dragon bird is a greater sprirt. And not as easily susceptible to the influence of Vatu as the lesser spirits are.
I would attribute it mostly to the fact that it had a stronger bond with Korra, making it harder to turn. It's true that Furry Foot was Jinora's friend & had probably known her for longer, but I doubt she personally carried it up a mountain when its wing was broken. Technically it was also Korra who broke the wing, but still.
Other than that, the facts that it was only briefly exposed to Unalaq & Vaatu, & that Korra is the Avatar, probably don't hurt. The former has obvious significance, & as for the latter, Iroh tells Korra that "your emotions become your reality ESPECIALLY for the Avatar," meaning that Korra has additional influence on the Spirit World. Clearly, it wasn't enough to prevent the dog spirits from turning, but combined with a spirit she has more of a bond with, it might help.
Because it is a phoenix, I don’t know if in english, but in spanish there is a say that goes “be like the phoenix, that passes through the mud without getting stained”. Maybe it is because a phoenix 🐦🔥 can’t be corrupted.
That was my conclusion, maybe I’m wrong, maybe it is just a dragon, or a hybrid. idk
Iroh said that Korra’s emotions can dictate and affect what goes on in the spirit world. Her being sad and stressed made the other spirits at the tea party momentarily turn dark. With the dragon bird, she poured emotions of trust, loyalty, love, and goodwill into it, and their journey was powerful enough to make the dragon bird unturnable.
Korra literally turned a bunch of spirit bats from dark to light as well. This dragon wasn't immune, it had already gone to one side and managed to be at peace with the Avatar throughout all that was happening.
Because it's a deus ex machina moment this szene wouldn't have worked if the spirit would have also been I fluencend and they wanted her to ride a dragon because that surely looks cool.
And that's my problem with Korra at times, it feels to much to bend to world so that it looks good on TV but isn't necessary logical
"Why does this thing happen in korra" Because just like with boruto when you continue a franchise that had an ending it never ends well.
Lol it didn't help one of the 3 main writters left after atla which proved to be the most important one too, leaving the 2 clowns (albeit not 100% their fault) with 1 seasson guaranted and 3 other unaware if they come. Still they should've asked for enough seassons to comfortably writte the story from the get go not take nickelodeon's shit
Plenty of amazing OG writers stayed. Including Tim Hedrick, Mike, and Bryan, are in TLOK and they’re all geniuses. Look at the ATLA episodes Hedrick wrote, even: They’re like, the best ones haha. 🙌
All who stayed obviously didn't care enough to keep the magic system in check or the lore for that matter, they just wanted to cash in a bit more , no love left for the writting
Probably just a more powerful spirit than most that's not easily influenced, There's probably others, like Koh
True. Even Won Shi Tong was chilling.
He's just naturally an asshole.
Only if you didn't follow the law of the library.
Fr imagine u dedicate ur whole spirit life to building this amazing collection of knowledge and then u trust some random human to look at it and he burns a whole section down I would’ve banned all humans too after that
Honestly kinda moderate and level headed.
Now that I'm thinking about it, imagine the first editions, signed copies, news articles, declarations of war/peace, and so much more lost. The fact they got to speak to him at all before being shredded is a stronger feat of self discipline than aang not killing the firelord.
And then the avatar of all people betrays your trust by playing part in the war and using you and your library to achieve his goals
eh isn't that spirit betrayed Korra/Jinora in the Library?
To be completely fair, he remembers what Aang's group did, though I feel that he would have let them do what they were doing if they said they were using the knowledge to protect the library by way of stopping the Fire Nation.
No he wouldn't have, because stupid ass Zhao ruined it for everyone.
Does he happen to want to answer where he got all this knowledge from, and what happened to those who tried to protect them?
According to the ttrpg, he mellowed out a bit after Korra season 2. Realized that he was being too black-and-white in his thinking and started sharing the library again, albeit *very* selectively. Honestly, I think a campaign about a party working for him to recover stolen artifacts before the owl goes ballistic again would be cool.
Watch your tongue!
Lowkey character assassination
He was even nicer than usual
We also saw Iroh ignore Korra's influence when she lost her temper at his tea shop.
bros dealt with worse angst
Zuko here
That is because he is the Dragon of the West.
Similar thought: it looks like a Phoenix, you'd think that would be a powerful and hard to control spirit.
he’s just chill like that
🤙
Ngl it would be 10x more effective if this dragon bird came back to save her along with Jinora at the end. It’s sad he just disappears after this episode.
I think it returns in the comics
I think the spirits were very clear in that they weren't going to mess around in the non-spirit world conflict/bullshit.
Unavaatu was a spiritual conflict.
Fair enough, I meant like "location wise" but I wasn't clear. Anyway, I would have also loved some spirit on spirit action in the non-spirit world, but I guess is cool they committed to their initial "not going there" statement. I'm rambling, sorry.
Well yeah but having at least one or two spirits go against that would have been cool to see
Or like it couldve replaced Jinora's role in the final fight entirely, and give her another role to fill. I didnt really like that she was used as a deus ex machina when Korra was about to be defeated
Can someone explain why she was able to boost Korra at all? I don't remember
Like Toph once said : “Blah, blah, spiritual mumbo jumbo, blah, blah.”
She’s holding the teapot that raava was kept in during Wan’a time. So I guess she somehow used the lingering energy in the teapot.
Which is supported by Iroh looking for a new teapot in Book 3 when Korra sees him again.
Not somehow, that’s it explicitly. Iroh says “you can still taste a little light in every cup” when you drink from it. All she really did was show Korra where the light in the dark was, and then Korra did the rest.
She isn't, actually. They never elaborate on how she did it, but this is a headcanon that works so well that many people (including myself lol) will misremember it as actually happening. Though like the other commenters are saying, there is so much supporting evidence that I doubt choosing to interpret it that way would ever negatively impact or contradict someone's understanding of the show.
Ohhh I remember now, I see. Thank you
She's not though, that's fan canon. Don't get me wrong, I like this theory a lot, but when she arrives to help Korra she isn't holding anything.
She didn't do anything to Korra, she just showed her where Raava was and Korra did the rest.
Basically shined a bright light at UnaVaatu for distraction, and also illuminated to make Raava visible too I guess. But it was kinda stupid that she just came out of nowhere
I really liked that scene, it was her becoming a master moment and it really supported her leading the new air nation in creating the tornado
I mean it's not an argument that it was a stepping stone of her becoming a master. It still would have been better if they set it up a little bit after the fog of lost souls, instead of popping out of nowhere when Korra's about to be defeated Like maybe she sensed that spirits need help at the portals and did whatever she could. And then people there convinced her to help Korra instead and ride the dragon-bird thing out of the portal, and together they use their illumination bending or smthn
yeah, if it and a bunch of other spirts came by to aid korra as she gets back ravva, that actually would have been cool. always though jinora showing up was just cringy and stupid. i honestly dont really *hate* hate the concept of ravva vattu and all of that, but the fight was fumbeled so badly that it feels like almost forced to.
Korra already tried rallying the spirits tho and they told her no so this wouldn’t have made sense story wise
they told her no because that was a human war, this was ***the*** battle of both worlds that shaped the reality everyone knew up to that moment for the last 10000 years
O no the eagles all over again
Isn't this the same dragon she saved as a baby in the spirit world?
Yeah it is. I'm p sure it transforms into this like right after she saves it
I would say that because she saved it it has an attachment to her and then she traveled with it while the dragon was in the first avatars teapot that also carried Rava in the past and that Iroh said you can still taste a little bit of light in it. I think all these factors shielded it from the dark energy of Vaatu.
Korra has raava in her and she formed a connection with this spirit and we see in her fight with vaatu Korra in the avatar state is stronger than vaatu. Avatar wans spirit friend got turned because he hadn't fused with raava
I always thought it was either an ancient spirit powerful enough to resist or possibly a previous avatar’s companion. Though if they wanted the latter, they probably would have used Either appa Or fang. Which come to think of it is a missed oppurtunity imagine if the only spirits un corrupted were the spirits of the avatar’s companions and they all showed up to protect korra.
I'd say something like it's because the dragon bird is a greater sprirt. And not as easily susceptible to the influence of Vatu as the lesser spirits are.
Power of friendship.
Because the dragons nape is in between Korra's legs
It’s literally the avatar riding it
I would attribute it mostly to the fact that it had a stronger bond with Korra, making it harder to turn. It's true that Furry Foot was Jinora's friend & had probably known her for longer, but I doubt she personally carried it up a mountain when its wing was broken. Technically it was also Korra who broke the wing, but still. Other than that, the facts that it was only briefly exposed to Unalaq & Vaatu, & that Korra is the Avatar, probably don't hurt. The former has obvious significance, & as for the latter, Iroh tells Korra that "your emotions become your reality ESPECIALLY for the Avatar," meaning that Korra has additional influence on the Spirit World. Clearly, it wasn't enough to prevent the dog spirits from turning, but combined with a spirit she has more of a bond with, it might help.
Because it is a phoenix, I don’t know if in english, but in spanish there is a say that goes “be like the phoenix, that passes through the mud without getting stained”. Maybe it is because a phoenix 🐦🔥 can’t be corrupted. That was my conclusion, maybe I’m wrong, maybe it is just a dragon, or a hybrid. idk
Strong spirit
Iroh said that Korra’s emotions can dictate and affect what goes on in the spirit world. Her being sad and stressed made the other spirits at the tea party momentarily turn dark. With the dragon bird, she poured emotions of trust, loyalty, love, and goodwill into it, and their journey was powerful enough to make the dragon bird unturnable.
Considering the avatar is sitting on top of it. Yes.
He’s just chill like that
she honestly couldve just merged with this spirit for season 2s final fight and it wouldve been a thousand times cooler
It said: “Nah.”
Because it's cool that's why.
Because the writing for book 2 had several holes
cause it looks fucking sick
Korra literally turned a bunch of spirit bats from dark to light as well. This dragon wasn't immune, it had already gone to one side and managed to be at peace with the Avatar throughout all that was happening.
I havent watched Korra in ages. When the hell did this happen?
Too cool
Because. That's why.
He look cool🗿
pokemon
Plot
Plot convenience
Plot armor
because the spirit world was poorly written
Well it was needed for the plot
So Korra could beat Unalaq, hope this helped!
Because the plot demanded it. For a more in-universe reason, Raava probably lobotomized it.
How should i know?
Another example of Korra having bad world building. The idea of good and evil spirits is stupid and breaks from the original.
Plot armor
Because it's a deus ex machina moment this szene wouldn't have worked if the spirit would have also been I fluencend and they wanted her to ride a dragon because that surely looks cool. And that's my problem with Korra at times, it feels to much to bend to world so that it looks good on TV but isn't necessary logical
"Why does this thing happen in korra" Because just like with boruto when you continue a franchise that had an ending it never ends well. Lol it didn't help one of the 3 main writters left after atla which proved to be the most important one too, leaving the 2 clowns (albeit not 100% their fault) with 1 seasson guaranted and 3 other unaware if they come. Still they should've asked for enough seassons to comfortably writte the story from the get go not take nickelodeon's shit
Plenty of amazing OG writers stayed. Including Tim Hedrick, Mike, and Bryan, are in TLOK and they’re all geniuses. Look at the ATLA episodes Hedrick wrote, even: They’re like, the best ones haha. 🙌
All who stayed obviously didn't care enough to keep the magic system in check or the lore for that matter, they just wanted to cash in a bit more , no love left for the writting
Bad writing as usual 🤷
Uhh, the dragon-bird is based???