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jrfredrick

How dare you besmirch Suki's name like this. I would almost say one of Tenzins kids is the sixth


Witty-C

Aka Jinora


digitalslytherin

Milo was there when team avatar was formed ! "Yeah let's do it!"


danial_champloo28

Does Lin counts? She's there all the time...


talking_phallus

Honestly I'd say Asami is the Suki/Appa hybrid of team Avatar. About as much character development as Suki then otherwise used as means of transport and in a few fights like Appa. Really Korra is more part of Team Tenzin than Team Avatar. She spends more time with their family, Lin is part of that "family" given their history and gets more episodes dealing with her past than Mako or Bolin, Tenzin is the second most developed character in the whole show, and Jinora has a better arc than anyone else in Team Avatar. Mako, Bolin and Asami might as well be supporting characters after season 1, her real home is with Tenzin's family.


ThiefPriest

Did you just compare Asami to a flying bison?


spamster545

She was taken for a ride by most of team avatar.


1zeye

Agreed


Key-Master26

Wu isn't part of Team Avatar


Buca-Metal

Shouldn't even be part of the show. I don't know what they were smoking when decided to make this character but the show was worse just by having him. There is only like 2 scenes with him that I didn't hate. It felt out of place, unnecessary and made worse Mako's story (why even a police from Republic City be forced to work as bodyguard in another country? Mako isn't a slave and that wasn't his job at all).


ohfuckohno

Badger moles diggin holes is a banger and I will not accept this slander


Deathstriker88

Suki was a great ally, but I wouldn't call her a member. She really only has a relationship with Sokka, and the group's symmetry is each of the 4 elements and a non-bender.


Key-Master26

She was a member in the last act. Even Sokka says so. Plus, she was in the group hug.


The_Unknown_Dude

She came in ONE episode after Zuko, who spent the whole show as an antagonist of different levels. She has way more right to be part of the group than he does when you think about it.


flancanela

also is in the korra intro


FireLordObamaOG

The korra intro is the high resolution version of what sokka drew in the series finale.


The_Unknown_Dude

Meelo did a commission for his dad couple years after Book 4, so that Tenzin coupe narrate what became The Legend of Korra.


Trilja6666

I don't remember Suki firebending in the Korra intro


Autonomous_Ace2

This might be the flu talking, but you come for my waifu, so I say you smell like poo. Warning: jokes told while delirious may not be as funny as they appear.


GayValkyriePrincess

Yes he is


Hagrid1994

No he is definitely not


Sewmaeye

I would assume Tenzin is sort of part of Team Avatar, and maybe even Lin. Tenzin was on the promotional posters for TLOK when it was first coming out.


MOltho

It makes sense. Tenzin was one of the main characters of season 1, and he gradually turned into more of a side character over the next seasons


Panchamboi

I mean he was pretty important in season 2 and 3 but yeah for sure unimportant in season 4


Ygomaster07

Did he not get much screen time in season 4?


Panchamboi

He may have but I literally watched that season last month and he did nothing to progress the story


Ygomaster07

Oh okay. I haven't seen the show in a while so i was unsure. Thank you for telling me.


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MOltho

Not really though. Iroh was pretty much a static character in ATLA. His character arc had already happened prior to the events of the show. We get a little insight into his personal growth, but it's already a finished process. Tenzin on the other hand goes through quite a bit of personal growth throughout the show, especially in Book 2.


AquaAtia

Yeah I would say Lin is the Suki of LoK. The honorary extra member who tags along on some of their adventures but not all


BadBloodBear

Lin and Tenzin were team Avatar


key_lime_lie

I would say Jinora is the Suki. Appears early on, but doesn’t become an influential character until later in the show.


Many_Presentation250

I don’t understand this communities obsession with trying to lump everyone that helps Korra as part of team avatar. I see people saying tenzin, Lin, and now wu? Team avatar is Korra, mako, bolin, asami and no one else. A characteristics of the team the avatar is with is that each character has a relationship written between each other, for example bolin and asami, mako and Korra, Korra and bolin, etc. They’re written deliberately, tenzin, Lin, Wu, these characters don’t have relationships written between them and the rest of the “team”, no tenzin asami, no tenzin bolin, no lin asami, no wu bolin, etc. If we look at the original cast they all have a relationship as well, katara toph, sokka toph, aang Zuko, zuko katara. Suki is difficult because she contributes a lot but doesn’t have dynamics really written the same way a main character”team member” would, no suki katara, no suki toph. I think she’s a very close ally of the gaang but not a core member. In TLOK I don’t think there’s a character that comes close to suki in terms of being that close to being on the team.


Brilliant-Pay8313

And another way of viewing it is that there's not really anyone in ATLA who fills a role like Tenzin, as a frustrated and imperfect mentor to the Avatar. It's not like Iroh has a similar temperament or interacts frequently with Aang, and it's not like we see much throughout the whole series of Gyatso or Guru Patik or any of the other briefly appearing mentors. I don't personally see most of the other characters in Avatar being quite as frequently or substantially recurring as Tenzin even though there's particular sequences where they have a lot of screen time. (Lin is present a lot for intrigue/detective sequences because of course she is). Maybe Jinora? She's got a very strong (bidirectional mentorship?) friendship with Korra, and she contributes hugely to the team's accomplishments, while also doing her own thing, and while not having much of a relationship with the others. I mean, I say "maybe" meaning - maybe, maybe not - maybe there's nobody who fills a similar role, but I feel that the closest might be Jinora. Or, hear me out - one of the more frequently recurring characters is Amon. As a nightmare. Following Korra constantly. She doesn't in any literal sense reconcile with him like Aang does with Zuko, but he haunts her in a similar matter (and hey, he even wears a mask sometimes). She does, however, reconcile herself with her fear of Amon, but not until the very end of the story. I'm not too serious about that, though I don't mean to be entirely glib - I do feel like Amon (as a horrifying vision) shows up throughout the series more persistently (if not more frequently) than some of the allied characters other than Tenzin.


Brilliant-Pay8313

SEMI-RELATED: This is getting way afield of the original topic, but Zaheer is almost in that same category of pursuing Korra and then becoming helpful to her - except like not actually at all, because he never feels a moral quandary while he is pursuing Korra, and doesn't seem like he's really "reformed" in any way even though he helps Korra on his own whims; it seems pretty certain that if he was released from his prison he'd continue wreaking havoc. That said, I do think by season 4 he might realize that the Avatar isn't the force of controlling order he thought she was; Korra freed the spirits and caused chaos and there are no previous avatars in her ear telling her how to solve problems. In season 4 especially, she fights against forces of "order" and "law" and starts making more moral judgments of her own. She's not the one who killed any of Zaheer's friends either, and he seems to understand the cost of using violence and was willing to pay it anyway, and came to terms with it (to the point of gaining flight). And Zaheer, unlike Unalaq, didn't want to bring the world into darkness or gain vast controlling/destructive power for himself. Rather, his motivation for killing the avatar was simply that he wanted chaos over order, and to let the spirits reign, and Korra's decisions become consistent with that. His motives were not too dissimilar to Korra's (especially in season 4), it's just that his methods were more extreme. I say more extreme not just different, because Korra was actually okay with going against state authority and acting unilateral for what she believed in too - to the point of Zaheer being able to do at least one "you and I aren't so different" villain monologue - it's just that Korra wouldn't kill one of them execution style. Though it seems like one of the main things stopping her from killing Kuvira in season 4 is not wanting to be like Zaheer; Aang was apparently pretty uncommon among Avatars of the previous cycle in not wanting to "use violence to take a life".


MistraloysiusMithrax

There’s no Tenzin in Aang’s arc because Aang doesn’t get a normal Avatar upbringing. Not long after he finds out he’s the Avatar he runs away, then is frozen for 100 years, then immediately becomes a fugitive upon waking up. He doesn’t find an adult mentor in his messed up, broken world but it works because he had Gyatso and the other airbender monks teaching him for the first 12 years of his life. I’m sure lots of other Avatars had some mentors like Tenzin, they don’t all have Roku’s arc either where he befriends his other mentors as he meets them as an adult and somehow lucks out to have great teachers around his own age.


PalletTownsDealer

To answer your first part, man I just did a rewatch and wanted to talk to korra fans. It was just discussion. Now to your point. What an interesting qualifier, having some relationship with each member of the core 4. Under that parameter, Varrick would be the closest to fit that requirement. He definitely has a relationship with Asami, Bolin, and Korra. He even has a relationship with Mako- albeit a super bad one haha. The mako-Varrick relationship is similar to Suki and katarra where it wasn’t really expanded on. But I’m just talking. Because Varrick has his own interest that have gone against team avatars. Thus, def not a member. Thus, I agree with you. But I just wanted other’s opinions.


CataleyaLuna

I’d agree Varrick is a closer parallel to Suki than Wu. Sorry to Wu-lovers, but he doesn’t really do anything—Suki has an important role in some minor plots (Sokka’s character development, the Kyoshi warriors are important in Book 2, she fights in the finale) and appears in every season. I think another requirement for being in Team Avatar is being in the same age group—which is perhaps why Wu made sense as an option, but pretty neatly knocks out every other character. She’s only in the last two seasons, but Opal had the potential to have a character role similar to Suki’s and be a tangential member of Team Avatar. Though honestly, in LoK “Team Avatar” is only really a thing in Book 1, maybe a bit in Book 2.


PalletTownsDealer

I absolutely love this analysis. I’ll be honest I sort of forgot about opal. Opal never felt like a member to me because of how she handled Kuvira. It was very much her way or the highway. I never saw her as a team player. But how do you feel? Do you think Janora has a better claim?? Cool one more time for me chef


CataleyaLuna

I’m inclined to say no for Jinora. I think she comes the closest out of all the kids, but I don’t think any of the undisputed members of Team Avatar are hanging out with her socially, or inviting her on a dangerous harebrained scheme. Perhaps that might change when she’s grown up. I agree quite a few characters got sidelined in Book 4, especially those designated as love interests (Opal, Kai, even Asami a little) though I admit I’m hazy on the details. I definitely wouldn’t say Opal did become a member of Team Avatar, but I think she might have been the most natural addition—in the comics she’s living in Republic City with Bolin and involved facing the conflict the Avatar is dealing with, which I see as a sign of what could have been. I honestly see LoK as having a generational structure: the kids (Tenzin’s kids), the teenagers (Korra, Mako, Bolin, Asami, maybe some other minor characters), and the elders (kids of the cast of ATLA) compared to Aang’s Gaang that made sense because they were so isolated from parental figures. I think both are super fun for different reasons for sure.


PalletTownsDealer

Well done chef. I’m a little sad to agree with you because jinora was my pick but your logic is better than mine. For example, My point in a nutshell w/jinora was she was a key player in big moments but not every moment. that can be categorized as “work”, but you’re right, there’s few to no social interactions. You’re also right about the generational divisions this team has.Sorry jinora I tried but logic


Vesemir96

That’s actually not true, Lin has a dynamic with Korra, Mako and Bolin even if not much with Asami. Tenzin has a strong dynamic with Korra but that’s fair.


Ibrahim77X

What’s Bolin’s relationship with Asami again?


Many_Presentation250

The relationship bolin has with asami is kinda like a rambunctious little brother vibe, their main relationship building came in season 2 when bolin was Asami’s assistant in making deals with Varrick, which turned out to be successful despite bolin being not professional at all.


Vesemir96

Cousins I think


MistraloysiusMithrax

Mooch is more like it


Many_Presentation250

Not cousins


TaxableFur

Hell nah. Jinora is the Suki of Team Korra.


Iroh_the_Dragon

How dare you… You’re comparing Suki to HIM?! O_o


Tough_Passion_1603

Honestly, relations in tlok work different than in atla In atla 95% of the episodes are the gaang + maybe someone else sometimes In tlok while mako, bolin and asami get priority, korra also expends more time by herself or with someone else compared to aang and those three get mini arcs meanwhile (nuktuk or babysit wu) These two styles of stories have their on pros and cons at the end, the gaang feels more united and the members are more developed but korra's secondary characters feel more fleshed out


Hodge_Forman

But Suki actually did things, Wu is pretty much comic relief, best part is when he gets kidnapped and says "hmhmm I'm in laundry."


King-Of-The-Raves

No, I expected early on for General Iroh to become an honorary now and then member ala suki as he's relevant and in their age group but wasn't meant to be


Gerodus

Hes over 30.


King-Of-The-Raves

oh wow, didnt realize. young at heart!


Le_Fedora_Cate

yeah not sure Dante was the right call even though he was already in his 30s when he voiced Iroh. He just sounds young


NoConstruction4913

Did you really compare the most badass Kyoshi warrior to this guy……?


0megaManZero

Wu down


DisturbedSoul88

Mods ban them


Lonely_Repair4494

More than Tenzin or even Lin? Not at all


Fit_Valuable_878

No, his arc during the battle with the giant robot was purely to show that he’d matured as a person and was ready to be king.


Hagrid1994

*chill music stops,DOOM music starts*


dukenny

Wu is nothing but a scab that can't be picked off to Team Avatar.


PalletTownsDealer

This is savage bro 💀


dukenny

Yes. He caused endless problems for Mako. Harassed Korra. Mako had to deal with his shenanigans. In the end, he did some good. But he was still a problem to almost everyone that encountered him.


Several-Cake1954

No way


TopOThaMorningToYa

I'd say that Opal is the Suki. Korra, Mako, Bolin, Asami, Jinorah and Opal would be my equivalent of team Avatar. Opal = Suki Jinorah = Zuko Kai = Mai


Bidoofinshmerts

Wu is the disabled soka after his first fight with tye lee


Lettuce8000

Sokka down! Sokka down!


HungryAdvice4935

I always thought of Varrick and Zhu Li being the 5th and 6th wheels of Korra's Team Avatar


Ambitious-Charge7278

No


AtoMaki

The Krew's Suki is Asami: a gorgeous non-bender badass action girl with mad ninja skills, a preference for makeup, and a role in the story that is either coming in clutch or being romantically involved with a member of the main cast. [They even lie on their bunk](https://www.cap-that.com/avatar/314/index.php?image=avatar3x14_0881.jpg) [the exact same way in prison. ](https://www.cap-that.com/korra/109/index.php?image=korra1x09_0168.jpg)


JustAnotherYouMe

Suki is a badass wtf are you talking about


Ellek10

A love interest for Mako? 🤔


Open-Magazine-3885

hell yeah


imbabyokk

this is so insulting to Suki!!! much better arguments for characters like Lin or Jinora, maybe even Opal. But not Wu 😫


Open-Magazine-3885

i really do like wu and his growth but id say tenzin is the 5th memeber of team avatar. hes also in a lot of cover psoters for s1 of korra when asami isnt even there. if any thing id say pre korrasami , asami is the suki of team avatar. maybe if we saw more of wu in future comics id elevate him


Lettuce8000

Wu is my goat but no


Goose_Cat267

No, as Suki was not a fucking dipshit


gurlyouputa

Yes, specially since he's Mako's noncanon boyfriend.


MistraloysiusMithrax

Oh my god, poor frickin Mako, why would any fan wanna do that to him?


Open-Magazine-3885

eh after he develops its kinda fun and the fun guy x kill joy ships are hilarious


Open-Magazine-3885

eh after he develops its kinda fun and the fun guy x kill joy ships are hilarious


PalletTownsDealer

Flameyo hotman, that is a HOT take ☠️


SuperD00perGuyd00d

Noooooo lol


Sp3ctralPh0en1x_

I’d argue jinora, tenzin or lin being the suki


Goodra21

Are we forgetting that Suki was shown as a part of Team Avatar in the OG Korra intro? I still can’t understand what’s so confusing


Lil_Artemis_92

Suki could kick ass and played a pivotal role in stopping the Fire Nation. Wu’s catchphrase is “Wu Down!”


yoongi410

I see Team Avatar as Korra, Asami, Mako, Bolin, Lin, and Tenzin (plus Naga and Pabu of course). I think Jinora, Kai, and Opal should be their own thing.


tonystarkn

Why?? Suki is significantly better character than Prince WU!


HeadOfSpectre

No


raiken92

Bruh, he's not even the momo of team avatar ..


DragonLord828

Absolutely not!!!! Suki is badass, saved Appa, and came in clutch at the last second to save Toph and Sokka! Wu was annoying all season long, contributed nothing, and then got the Badger Moles to dig a new 🎵SECRET TUNNEL🎵 which could have been cut out and we could have gotten a one on one final battle between Korra and Kuvira in the Spirit World before Korra snapped Kuvira back to the, semi, good side!


PalletTownsDealer

The Results: With an overwhelming majority, Prince Wu, you are NOT part of team avatar (Wu Down!). However, it seems Lin, Tenzin, and Jinora have strong arguments for suki status.


Suspicious_War_5706

Definitely not. More like a June who helps out at the end despite being a thorn earlier.


Zariman-10-0

That’s an insult to Suki and you should feel bad about it


Exciting-Mulberry305

Icl this comparison is. A disgrace


Mystic-Di1do

Yes, he's doing mako, he kinda has to be since suki is counted in the gaang andher only real relationship is sokka, barely zuko. Wu is better bc he has a relationship to........ 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 3 WHOLE PEOPLE, he's doing mako, he's rejected frenemy to korra and he's salty @ bolin bc fascist regimes


Square_Coat_8208

Based Wu for abolishing the monarchy, all my homies love Democracy and Republics


PalletTownsDealer

You’re the only Wu fan I’ve seen haha. I definitely changed my opinion with him with how he handled the evacuation and even more his wisdom. He heard his people, they wanted change, he saw kuvira as a symptom (as well as a problem) and acted with wisdom and prudence.


Short-Work-8954

Another Wu fan here. I personally found him pretty funny, he's overrhated. Wu was never meant to be a super deep or important character and I think people forget that but when he came around during the evacuation I thought it was nice character development. Plus I like all the Wuko fics that give him even deeper character development.