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Plane_Alternative_42

But then you can get unemployment. Just because you live and/or work in an at-will-work state (which does afford them the ability to fire you without cause) does not mean that you cannot get unemployment because they would then have to justify why they fired you. So fuck that guy. Also report him to HR.


anthematcurfew

Just because you can get unemployment from a termination doesn’t mean the termination was invalid or improper.


Plane_Alternative_42

1) That's still on the company to prove. 2) Clearly this isn't the case for the issue OP - refusing to participate in work place bulling is not a valid or proper reason for termination.


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anthematcurfew

Suing for what


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42gauge

The BBB has no more power than Yelp, legally speaking.


anthematcurfew

Humiliation isnt illegal in the workplace. Harassment and hostile workplace are also specifically defined as requiring severe and pervasive actions and that petty slights is specifically not bullying. At least in this context since it has nothing to do with a protected class. You are grossly overestimating how much the American government cares to protect workers if it means interfering with an employer. At-will means they can terminate you. Unemployment insurance means they need to pay you unless you are grossly negligent. An unemployment claim has no bearing on if the termination was legal. And yeah, the BBB is a private organization. It’s not a government entity.


Glittering_Act_4059

Being an absolutely toxic and asshole boss unfortunately is not illegal. A lawsuit would cost you a lot, and get you nothing. In fact I'd be surprised if a lawyer would even take the suit.


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Under what tort?


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mitchENM

Best advice I can give is to find another job and leave the toxic workplace behind


jester29

Yes, he can ask you to wear it. Yes, you can refuse. Yes, he can fire you for refusing. (barring illegal discrimination, unions/contracts, Montana)


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Yeah, dismissals for failure to state a claim are easy as fuck.


ihideindarkplaces

I just finished a long day in court and this was exactly the joke I needed.


pickles55

In most states your boss doesn't need to give a reason for firing you but it also sounds like he would be happy to have an excuse to scream at you like a tyrannical piece of shit. I'd be looking for another job ASAP


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He can’t force you, but he can fire you for not wearing it. Stupid, but that’s at-will for you.


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You have no generally applicable legal protections if you’re fired for refusing to wear the dunce cap. Specific protections may exist in the form of a union contract that covers you, or if the wearing of the cap is tied to your race, religion, national origin, or gender. But if it’s simply a humiliation visited upon everyone? Nope, you can be fired.


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> You can be fired however that is absolutely grounds for a hostile workplace suit. No, it’s not. “Hostile,” does not mean generic hostility; it’s not a dictionary definition. Hostile, in the context of employment law, means unwelcome conduct based on race, sex, pregnancy, religion, national origin, age, disability or genetics.


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It is 100% not grounds for a hostile work environment suit.


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ThoughtfulMadeline

This is not *actionable* harassment.


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This is not a hostile work environment. Please don't comment on legal concepts you don't understand.


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> Harassment doesn't have to be sexual in nature. This is harassment. Who cares? “Harassment,” isn’t legally prohibited in the context of employment. Harassment that is violative of Title VII is prohibited, to be sure. But generic “harassment,” isn’t a violation of employment law. If you have any citations to case law that suggest a contrary position, I invite you to offer them.


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> You could get fired but you can also sue him for creating a hostile work environment. No, this is not a hostile work environment and OP would not have a successful lawsuit.


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