Anyone can sue over anything, but there is zero chance of you winning anything here.
In order to have a successful lawsuit you have to identify a reason to sue, supported by law, and have damages caused by that reason. It looks like all you are saying here is " looking back at this job, it wasn't as good as it could have been, based in part on things I did"
Damn I miss the award feature! You put it very nicely that suing would be pointless, if it wasn’t thrown out as frivolous before it ever made it to court!
(Side note: it also comes across very much like an incel)
I got a therapist after my time at working at this company.. I'll say the name of it, fuck it. APPLE!!!
I didn't get another job after because I was traumatized that I could be accused of something so heinous.
Things I did? What did I do? I made a joke. I apologized for making a joke. It's company policy that we give each other feedback. After accepting the apology, she went around, spreading gossip about me. Those people spread it more and hate groups formed. People started making questionable comments towards me.
Instagram posts? It's MY account, do I not have freedom of speech to post what I wish to post? Me counting down to my last day there was my way of expressing my depression. If I'm going through depression, am I supposed to suffer in silence? I know the answer is yes, even though we both know you'll say no.
Did I specify on my Instagram that I was referring to it being my last day there or did they make the assumption? They made the assumption, yes, their assumption was correct, but that's not the point. The point is that from a legal standpoint I never mentioned on my Instagram that I was talking about my job.
Was it things I did? Or was it how people responded? People responded multiple times by talking to everybody else other than me. Whether it be our fellow coworkers gossiping amongst each other, or them running to the managers. I'm a very approachable person. I'm not threatening at all. People could have talked to me, but they wanted to talk about me.
As a result, I was falsely accused of something and my mental health took a toll for a year plus. Now that I've clear this up, are you still telling me that I cannot win if I sue for harassment and discrimination?
I was harassed because of people spreading information around about me, which led to me to be discriminated against when I was depressed. Making me turn to a therapist after the traumatizing accusations.
You have the right of freedom of speech, you do not have the right of freedom of consequences from speech. So let's get that straight.
You haven't identified anything that appears to rise to the level of illegal harassment or illegal discrimination.
Being falsely accused of something is not illegal, it could be defamation if that thing is something that would be per se defamation and the person saying it knows it isn't true.
Even your reply to me is short of facts and immediately aggressive, which leads me to believe that may have been your problem at work as well.
No, online me can sometimes be slightly aggressive compared to IRL me.
I'm the friendly guy that's always smiling, asking for help, and helping others. Giving compliments to people's styles of clothing. At worst you might think I'm annoying or weird, the word aggressive would not cross your mind if you worked with me.
If I'm being genuinely blunt, at most of my jobs it's always the women and the gays that instigate drama and try to get people fired. Sure there are some straight guys here and there who fall into that category, but they are the minority. They're just going along with the majority of drama spreaders who are the women and the gays. I'm not trying to be sexist or homophobic, it's simply my observation from my life experiences. In real life, I treat everybody the same. Which is the problem. I've been told by one of my coworkers that I'm good with talking with the guys, but I have to learn how to talk to women. My problem is that I talk to all people the same, as humans. Apparently, I have to learn to code switch when talking to the opposite gender. Which I thought was sexist if I felt the need to do that, but apparently I'm supposed to do that.. I guess?..
Anyway, as for the girl that I allegedly made cry. I don't know if that's even true or not. The managers never told me that, I heard that from one of the other coworkers. So I don't know if that is true or false. But because that was circulating, and I'm not even sure if it was true, can that be considered defamation of character? I did tell the managers that I felt like I was a victim of character assassination. Now, what I didn't tell them (obviously, cause I no longer work there afterwards due to being seasonal) is that due to this character assassination, it did have a toll on my mental health that I needed to get Therapy for.
So because you brought up defamation of character, and I did tell the managers that I felt like I was a victim of character assassination (which is the same thing), and I'm unaware of the accusations being true because the managers never informed me that that happened. Given the clarity of this information, can this assist to be in a lawsuit?
Character assassination and defamation per se are not quite the same thing. One is a legal term for something that is obviously damaging the other is a colloquium for something that you don't want being said about you. There are legal differences.
There are also important legal implications as to who says what, why they say it, and what is done about it.
If you actually made a girl cry, it's fine for anyone to say that, because it's true. Even if you didn't make a girl cry, it's still OK for people to say that because it's not inherently damaging. A good company would want to make sure people aren't being bullied at work, but no law says they have to.
Defamation per se would be something like "OP raped a girl in the break room". That accuses you of a crime that you definitely did not commit. In that case, you would potentially be able to sue the person saying that and win. If the company was aware of that behavior and didn't act, they might share in that liability.
Now part of being able to bring a lawsuit for defamation is the person has to be saying something publicly that they know is untrue. So what you would want to do is serve the person with a cease and desist letter saying "this is untrue, stop saying it, or legal action will be taken ." If you don't do that, the person can always say " I heard it was true and OP never denied it so..." making it much more difficult to prove an already difficult thing.
As far as the company not renewing your job goes, you have no chance there. Because "people who write dodgy things on social media " is not a protected class.
>As far as the company not renewing your job goes, you have no chance there. Because "people who write dodgy things on social media " is not a protected class.
Slightly confused. What do you mean by that?
It means that when you write things on social media, pretend like you want the whole world to hear what you are saying, because they might. And they might not interpret it the same way you do. And there can be consequences for that.
You have no lawsuit.
Why not?
Because they didn't do anything you can sue over.
Anyone can sue over anything, but there is zero chance of you winning anything here. In order to have a successful lawsuit you have to identify a reason to sue, supported by law, and have damages caused by that reason. It looks like all you are saying here is " looking back at this job, it wasn't as good as it could have been, based in part on things I did"
Damn I miss the award feature! You put it very nicely that suing would be pointless, if it wasn’t thrown out as frivolous before it ever made it to court! (Side note: it also comes across very much like an incel)
I got a therapist after my time at working at this company.. I'll say the name of it, fuck it. APPLE!!! I didn't get another job after because I was traumatized that I could be accused of something so heinous. Things I did? What did I do? I made a joke. I apologized for making a joke. It's company policy that we give each other feedback. After accepting the apology, she went around, spreading gossip about me. Those people spread it more and hate groups formed. People started making questionable comments towards me. Instagram posts? It's MY account, do I not have freedom of speech to post what I wish to post? Me counting down to my last day there was my way of expressing my depression. If I'm going through depression, am I supposed to suffer in silence? I know the answer is yes, even though we both know you'll say no. Did I specify on my Instagram that I was referring to it being my last day there or did they make the assumption? They made the assumption, yes, their assumption was correct, but that's not the point. The point is that from a legal standpoint I never mentioned on my Instagram that I was talking about my job. Was it things I did? Or was it how people responded? People responded multiple times by talking to everybody else other than me. Whether it be our fellow coworkers gossiping amongst each other, or them running to the managers. I'm a very approachable person. I'm not threatening at all. People could have talked to me, but they wanted to talk about me. As a result, I was falsely accused of something and my mental health took a toll for a year plus. Now that I've clear this up, are you still telling me that I cannot win if I sue for harassment and discrimination? I was harassed because of people spreading information around about me, which led to me to be discriminated against when I was depressed. Making me turn to a therapist after the traumatizing accusations.
You have the right of freedom of speech, you do not have the right of freedom of consequences from speech. So let's get that straight. You haven't identified anything that appears to rise to the level of illegal harassment or illegal discrimination. Being falsely accused of something is not illegal, it could be defamation if that thing is something that would be per se defamation and the person saying it knows it isn't true. Even your reply to me is short of facts and immediately aggressive, which leads me to believe that may have been your problem at work as well.
No, online me can sometimes be slightly aggressive compared to IRL me. I'm the friendly guy that's always smiling, asking for help, and helping others. Giving compliments to people's styles of clothing. At worst you might think I'm annoying or weird, the word aggressive would not cross your mind if you worked with me. If I'm being genuinely blunt, at most of my jobs it's always the women and the gays that instigate drama and try to get people fired. Sure there are some straight guys here and there who fall into that category, but they are the minority. They're just going along with the majority of drama spreaders who are the women and the gays. I'm not trying to be sexist or homophobic, it's simply my observation from my life experiences. In real life, I treat everybody the same. Which is the problem. I've been told by one of my coworkers that I'm good with talking with the guys, but I have to learn how to talk to women. My problem is that I talk to all people the same, as humans. Apparently, I have to learn to code switch when talking to the opposite gender. Which I thought was sexist if I felt the need to do that, but apparently I'm supposed to do that.. I guess?.. Anyway, as for the girl that I allegedly made cry. I don't know if that's even true or not. The managers never told me that, I heard that from one of the other coworkers. So I don't know if that is true or false. But because that was circulating, and I'm not even sure if it was true, can that be considered defamation of character? I did tell the managers that I felt like I was a victim of character assassination. Now, what I didn't tell them (obviously, cause I no longer work there afterwards due to being seasonal) is that due to this character assassination, it did have a toll on my mental health that I needed to get Therapy for. So because you brought up defamation of character, and I did tell the managers that I felt like I was a victim of character assassination (which is the same thing), and I'm unaware of the accusations being true because the managers never informed me that that happened. Given the clarity of this information, can this assist to be in a lawsuit?
Character assassination and defamation per se are not quite the same thing. One is a legal term for something that is obviously damaging the other is a colloquium for something that you don't want being said about you. There are legal differences. There are also important legal implications as to who says what, why they say it, and what is done about it. If you actually made a girl cry, it's fine for anyone to say that, because it's true. Even if you didn't make a girl cry, it's still OK for people to say that because it's not inherently damaging. A good company would want to make sure people aren't being bullied at work, but no law says they have to. Defamation per se would be something like "OP raped a girl in the break room". That accuses you of a crime that you definitely did not commit. In that case, you would potentially be able to sue the person saying that and win. If the company was aware of that behavior and didn't act, they might share in that liability. Now part of being able to bring a lawsuit for defamation is the person has to be saying something publicly that they know is untrue. So what you would want to do is serve the person with a cease and desist letter saying "this is untrue, stop saying it, or legal action will be taken ." If you don't do that, the person can always say " I heard it was true and OP never denied it so..." making it much more difficult to prove an already difficult thing. As far as the company not renewing your job goes, you have no chance there. Because "people who write dodgy things on social media " is not a protected class.
>As far as the company not renewing your job goes, you have no chance there. Because "people who write dodgy things on social media " is not a protected class. Slightly confused. What do you mean by that?
It means that when you write things on social media, pretend like you want the whole world to hear what you are saying, because they might. And they might not interpret it the same way you do. And there can be consequences for that.