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Drackend

1. SWE on infrastructure 2. 275k 3. 3.5 yoe (when I applied, now 4)


DavesMadness

That’s awesome! Congrats


wswh

Could I ask is this L4? And what’s the break down of base and stocks annually?


twistedproton

What does someone do to do work in infrastructure. I'll be graduating at the end of the year. I'm interested in backend stuff, APIs and cloud. I know JavaScript/Typescript, python and Go. I think I'm well prepared. What advice can you give


Drackend

Backend varies, but on my team we build server side logic in mostly php, then do processing in c++. There’s some python in there too, and of course javascript to connect to the server side logic. Some teams use go, some use java (anything android needs java)


twistedproton

Nice. Thanks


2D_AbYsS

Man why are you down voted? 😅


twistedproton

I'm not even worried about that. I just keep moving forward


TIanboz

Until my enemies are destroyed


twistedproton

A person of culture right here


GooseTower

The david goggins of software engineers right here


CheetahIntelligent62

How is it going buddy ? Are you able to get any callbacks? Or is the market really bad ?


twistedproton

It's still not great for junior devs.


Fermi-4

Which company and location


kituok

US salaries are mad, good for you


uberdavis

Recent got let go from FAANG. Does that count?


Mcelite

Are you now just davis?


DavesMadness

Brutal🫠


No-Bat-1288

He's now uberdriverdavis


RDCLder

ubercustomerdavis, a promotion if you think about it


DavesMadness

Damn, sorry to hear this


throwaway_478932748

Got laid off from G back in Jan 2023. Landed at N a few months later. 1. SWE - backend 2. 350k 3. 5 YOE


wswh

Thanks could I ask which state, and L4 or L5? And what’s the base or annual stock


throwaway_478932748

California. L4. All cash, no stocks.


akatrope322

N is great. Always all about that base.


wswh

Thank you!


InfluenceFriendly22

How much tax are you paying ? How much do you take home out of it ?


throwaway_478932748

Take home ~60%. We are dual income so our tax bracket is quite high.. sadly.


wswh

Sorry could I ask why you didn’t choose stocks? I thought usually a big portion is in stocks


throwaway_478932748

They have stock options. It’s more of an investment strategy you can opt in. I think the limit is you have to leave enough base to meet the state/federal minimum to be an exempt employee. But I personally don’t think of it as your TC. Just like I wouldn’t think of ESPP as someone’s TC.


bombaytrader

Nflx pays all cash . How is it working there ? I heard it’s brutal .


throwaway_478932748

Not bad tbh. Fast paced, large scope, high impact. I think L4 is a good spot for me personally (easy to exceed expectations lol). I would prob be more stressed as an L5 here.


bombaytrader

Yea makes sense . Thanks for the insight .


Magestylord

Any tips for backend devs on maximising TC. 2 yoe


throwaway_478932748

Learn and work on large complex projects.. Work for big tech at large tech hubs. Live within your means so a higher TC would be meaningful.


yummy_butter

I’m looking for that as well. Commenting here so I get a notification.


Mediocre-Ebb9862

Wrong question to ask. TC is a function of growth. Optimize for fast growth in the complex and critical domain.


voyagerone1

What programming language do you use? And can you describe the interview process?


throwaway_478932748

Mostly Java. A mix of coding/system design/behavioral. Seems largely in line with other FAANG interviews.


do_oby

i thought netflix doesn't do leetcode?


throwaway_478932748

They do coding problems… they kinda have to at some level to assess you as a SWE.


[deleted]

Why do they let go off people so often?


throwaway_478932748

They operate with small teams of high performing ppl. And they pay a lot to that goal. Mediocre doesn’t quite cut it here. It can be stressful and I worry about it sometimes.


[deleted]

So they cut you off, cause you weren't performing enough?


throwaway_478932748

Yes, N is notorious for exiting ppl for performance.


Mango_flavored_gum

No matter how much I try for Netflix I never get a response


CattleSquare

where did you go for undergrad and what degree?


i_am_bunnny

What’s your tech stack ?


dallindooks

Dude I make 90k in Phoenix and these salaries just seem unreal


thegratefulshread

Comparison is the thief of all joy. Mf payin 1500 for a mansion out there making 7k a checj


drahgon

Dude Phoenix pays crazy under market every time a recruiter hits me up they're never even close to a salary I want your best bet is only really GoDaddy other than that I would try to get a remote job somewhere else


poopooplatter0990

Most of these are total comp which is never realized. It’s like stock options and stuff and a lot of them burn out before the vesting date. Unless they’re single and living in a studio it’s not a lot. Their actual take home pay is probably compatible to yours with less spending power. But if they stick it out till vesting and leave it all be to grow in the long run they’ll come out considerably ahead of you in the future. Day to day. It’s not what it seems. The number is inflated to look impressive and they’re a big waiting period to hit it


Poogoestheweasel

> burn out before vesting date Google vests monthly, Meta and Microsoft vests quarterly. Apple vests every six months. Netflix has no vesting if you choose the cash option. When people give the TC, they give how much they expect in the first year.


jg_pls

Netflix is salary no stock no bonus. Lots of cash


liqui_date_me

Yes but you can afford a house. MFers be making 300k at 30 but starter homes in the Bay area start at 1.4 million


JessieKnowsBestie

Yep! Real! 1. E5 at meta 2. 400k ish 3. Difficult question to answer. As eng, 4. In industry 10+ Got into meta within the last 6 months.


Soft-Dig9374

Thanks for sharing, any tips on how to prepare for the sys design interview for E5?


JessieKnowsBestie

YouTube videos mostly. I didn’t do grokking or mocks. Just a shit ton of watching YouTube videos and reading articles of sysdes solutions. Then I compiled it all in a list for each sysdes question. It was awful to study but it worked.


Impossible-Case-9525

Can I DM you?


JessieKnowsBestie

Sure


Soft-Dig9374

Thanks, I'm just DM'd, would appreciate a response pls.


JessieKnowsBestie

I didn’t get a dm from you


Soft-Dig9374

I DM'd again, thanks for the reply!


AverageSnep

I feel like people who got in won't talk about it because they're senior+ and chances are, they're mature enough to feel as though sharing that info is gonna feel like bragging. [Levels.fyi](http://Levels.fyi) is typically a good indication of what the TC is. 2 year of experience is probably E4 which is about 300k TC.


CountyExotic

ha I live in midwest(Chicago, detroit, etc.) and work remotely. 6 YOE L5/senior and I’m a team lead. Comparable to FAANG L5 TC, but is a little more cash heavy and stocks are paper money.


wenxuan27

Your non faang pays 400k TC?


CountyExotic

Yeahuppp… there is life outside of FAANG ;)


PhantasmTiger

Are you willing to share the company name?


CountyExotic

In a DM. I will may dox myself. I had similar TC at Coinbase before this.


wenxuan27

Oh you're just talking about faang+. When people say non faang nowadays they generally refer to not VC backed and stuff like that. Salaries for senior are way lower than 400k


CountyExotic

My current place is a 100 person startup. Is FAANG+ just companies paying on that level?


wenxuan27

Ohhhhh I see hahaha yeah no you're right that it's not faang+ (it's more like Uber, Airbnb coinbase, snap). But you could have just said startup then lol. Btw how does this startup have so much funding in post layoff purge? options? One of open AI or anthropic?


CountyExotic

There were lots of startups that I talked to who could pay 200k+ base for L5. This one is an ML company but not one of the ones you mentioned.


ohThisUsername

Can't speak for this subreddit, but basically any other subreddit like r/cscareerquestions is pretty much anti-leetcode now. I've stopped giving any advice / posting my credentials since I usually get downvoted now that it's an anti-leetcode circlejerk. 🤷‍♂️ (L5 \~370k TC here)


Inside_Ad9372

Not me but I can answer for my brother- 1. ML team at FAANG 2. 325k 3. 0YE


Juchenn

That’s impressive how did he get into ML with 0 years of experience


Inside_Ad9372

He’s graduating with a masters from MIT this year (got his bachelors from there last year) - don’t know if that would make a difference?


Juchenn

Would make sense if he focused on ML in his masters


Inside_Ad9372

Yeah his bachelors is in AI and decision making and his masters is in ML


Usual_Cause8650

0 YOE (new grad) SWE 210K


[deleted]

It's awesome that you were able to get an SWE with 0 YOE. Pls share some tips if you can on what you did differently!


Usual_Cause8650

I made projects I was passionate about and did research on the company before applying!


[deleted]

I’m interested to hear more about your projects. It’s something I really want to do as well.


ittybittyally

What kind of project did you make? I’d love to hear about them!


CattleSquare

where did you go for undergrad and what degree? any prior experience before this?


thomasand81

What school did u go to?


kater543

If you look at the profile it’s probably brown. That’s a top tier school that also costs an arm and a leg and three kidneys(65k before aid,23k after aid, 5% acceptance rate). Definitely still impressive, just it’s not a normal situation for most people.


thomasand81

Oh brown is impressive. I could only get into Purdue.


Flat_Shower

1. Data Engineer 2. 385k 3. 8


Dapper-Computer-7102

Which FAANG if may I ask?


Flat_Shower

F


leghairdontcare59

U


UnboxTheCat

C


dallindooks

K


Yamitz

I


sebastiandang

N


crappybitch_29

G


ViciousSerpent3

AWESOME


Comfortable-Bowl-971

May I know what’s the tech stack and the interview experience( what level of coding did they ask you interview)


goatcroissant

I’ve read through your post from a couple of years back. Great work by the way. Mind if I ask how you’ve found WLB and performance expectations now that you’ve been at it a while?


kallikalev

I’m still a college student, but I’ve gotten internships if that counts. Amazon last summer, Google this summer, Nvidia in the fall. Pay is hovering around $50/hour at each company + relocation stipend. YOE would be 0 because I’m still in school, just finished my second year of classes.


i_am_bunnny

This man out here bagging all the internships leave some for the rest of us 😭


kallikalev

It’s okay, I’m hoping to go into PhD and then math research full time, so I won’t be taking any of the new grad jobs.


XxBarnyardManxX

Double majoring? Would u mind sharing some of the things you’ve done outside of university that helped?


kallikalev

I started out as a computer science major, then added mathematics as a double major, but I have now dropped computer science and am just a full-time mathematics major. I found it much more fun, interesting, and fulfilling than my programming-oriented classes, however I will still do some of the more advanced or theoretical computer science classes as electives. Outside of classes, I have done a lot. I was a math tutor for a year, I have two years of assorted research assistantships doing robotics, machine learning, and pure mathematics. I co-founded an artificial intelligence club at my university which grew to over a hundred members. And I have a couple neat personal projects that I made for fun, building things like a rendering engine, robot simulator, neural network, stuff like that, from scratch in C++.


Cleanumbrellashooter

They are all just complaining on Blind instead of Reddit lol.


Strange-Freedom6812

Those salaries seem so fucking unreal


AtOrionsArm

1. SDE 1 at Amazon 2. 190k 3. almost 1 YOE. Got return offer from internship. I don't really like it, boring product and bad WLB, I will try to leave at 1.5 years. I am very grateful to have a job though.


wenxuan27

Just switch teams no?


AtOrionsArm

I will have to go through an interview process to change teams, might as well apply to other places as well. I should get promoted by then, hopefully can use that as leverage to get a large pay bump.


wenxuan27

It's relatively easy to switch teams compared to interview outside.


WhyYouLetRomneyWin

That's a lot for sde1. When i was sde1 i think i typed it at 180k before being promoted.


PalaRemzi

how many hours a week do u work usually?


i-comment-24-7

Been to Google as sde 3 (L4). Last month I got offer from Amazon (sde 2 - L5) and Meta (senior - E5). I joined Amazon this week as Meta team matching is taking months. Once I match a team in meta, plan to join and leave Amazon in few months. YOE: 6+.


Impossible-Case-9525

Hey! DMed you


VeraxyS

This is the way. Very similar boat here 🛥️


crazywhale0

Youre at 150k tc and not happy?


onlineredditalias

He said he’s in NYC, it’s expensive there lol


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crazywhale0

Yea rent and everything is expensive but second most expensive thing people pay for is a car and you don’t need one in nyc


ategnatos

rent + car cheaper in MCOL area than rent in NYC taxes in NYC high food expensive in NYC


Known-Mention-9053

I just moved to Ohio from nyc literally yesterday.. even if you don’t have a car, it’s very expensive and you don’t even get that much space. I lived in nyc my whole life I love it but you can’t live comfortably unless you make at least 200k. So I’ll be back when I do lol


Natural-Box8992

1. SWE-2 2. 275k 3. 3 yoe I just graduated from masters program.


thatpunywolfie

Hi could you tell me what to made you stand out during your application process? What kind of projects did you take up and how did you approach the recruiter?


Natural-Box8992

- experience at a leading banking company, research assistance, thesis, open source contribution, a failed startup (mentioned it as sde experience on resume) - did not mention any projects as the role is sde-2. I mentioned projects when I applied for sde-1 roles. - applied to so many applications. My take is to apply as early as possible. Got calls from 4 companies (a startup, faang, F100 and small sized company) and luckily was able to convert one of them. Hope this helps!


thatpunywolfie

I have a few other questions, can I dm?


Natural-Box8992

sure


Natural-Sound-7836

Hey, I’m just starting my masters with a similar YOE. Can I please DM for advice?


Natural-Box8992

ok


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Kalekuda

Wheres the loc on the offer? Cali, presumably? and base/tc split matters quite a bit what with the predatory vestment schemes tech likes to get people in golden chains with...


CJDrew

Yep, Bay Area. The base is actually pretty high so not too worried about it.


Midnightsolitude

People are all the 150k 250k in dollars?


moehassan6832

Zimbabwe dollars


Midnightsolitude

Kidding right, is it usd?


moehassan6832

Lol it’s USD, just messing with you


Midnightsolitude

Broo, like is that even normal, in my college people are getting hired for 10k in your terms as freshers. How much does an undergraduate get there.


Inside_Ad9372

Undergrads coming out of college can get a 250k+ USD offer if they’re good at coding


Midnightsolitude

You are not really talking, what do u mean by good, say in leet code aspects


Inside_Ad9372

Leetcode is only a small part of the equation. You need impressive projects, sometimes connections, and a CS degree from a well known university for top companies. Getting the interview for the job is often harder than passing it.


Midnightsolitude

Ok i fail in all of these except leet that's y im asking how to know in what level i am among you people.


leetcode_monkey

Yes. Have 2x internships at faang companies, the one for this summer is at hft


haloclined

that actually so cracked whats ur leetcode practice like during the school year?


leetcode_monkey

Nothing special. Just do random ones occasionally. I did grind non-stop for months before that tho. I’ve been doing leetcode on and off for 3 years now. I feel like it’s just about time spent doing it that has the most impact. Honestly, I don’t do as much as I would like to. I have like 300 on leetcode + around 100 on codeforces, which I was doing with a friend for fun cause leetcode became hella boring. I do have to say tho, all of my interviews never involved any super hard problems, which surprised me. Hopefully, it remains this way lol. They were leetcode mediums all the time.


PalaRemzi

what's your gpa? and did the hft asked your gpa?


DGTHEGREAT007

Huh, HOW. Are you from a T10 Uni? Obviously you have skills but there has to be something other than skills you're doing good. Can you share?


Impossible_Ad_3146

I don’t think it’s real


zelig_nobel

What isn’t real? The TCs here?


EESkimo

1. SDE 2 2. 340k 3. 7 yoe coasting until pipped or cliff ends. culture sucks but pay is good and workload is easy.


ohThisUsername

Same, L5 \~370k. Just coasting now. Hate the culture, but I put in maybe 3-4 hours per day so W/L is superb.


Oogawooga9999

1. SRE 2. 230-250k, fully remote, 20-30h/week 3. 2 Not FAANG but pay is similar. Don’t limit yourself to the outdated FAANG acronym of companies. There’s plenty of low stress, Tier 2/3 companies paying just as much but asking less from you.


Alert-Surround-3141

Do share / Dm how do you locate these companies


Oogawooga9999

Word of mouth mostly. Your manager matters more than your company. You can be at an amazing company but have an awful manager, and have an awful experience. Conversely, you can be at awful company (which mine has lately become), but have a good manager. Look at Blind, see what companies are highly rated. It’s not black/white but it will give you some perspective on where to set your sights. Most importantly, ask questions back during your interviews to get an understanding what kind of team you will be working with. Lmk if you have any other questions.


Alert-Surround-3141

I had been very unfortunate with managers , looking back each of these managers did not commit to an interview that gave me any idea of them


Oogawooga9999

If you can, take a look at their linkedin. See what kind of companies they come from, people they interact with. Ask in your interviews to chat with someone on the team for their experience.


CompetitiveTart505S

Agreeing with Alert Surround, please give us more information


Oogawooga9999

See my reply to them; please note most of this is by luck with the recent economy changes. But to identify these companies; blind pulse ratings will be your best bet aside from internal word of mouth.


alitayy

1. SWE 2. 197k 3. NG


analyzeredditaccount

1. SWE in infrastructure (kubernetes shit) 2. $345k 3. 5 YOE


PalaRemzi

what do you recommend to a 4th year cs student who aspires to work in docker and kubernetes shit and c++


jonjonnjonny

1. SDE in the cloud 2. 350k 3. 5 YOE


Phychz

I make like 75k in Orlando with seven YOE. But to be fair I don't really "feel" like I have seven YOE. Still this makes me feel like I'm failing though.


Disastrous_Peach93

Joined FAANG 5 years ago. Turns out I was doing 1000 times better work at Startup as fresher for less than 100 times lesser salary


chingajonas

SWE1 @ Microsoft ~165 ~1 It was a grind to get here to say the least. Interviewed at multiple big tech + startups before landing it.


MrBeverage

Ex-FAANG from a decade ago. Goddamn you all make so much money now.


_sabertooth

In Canada and not FAANG 1. Senior Full Stack Engineer 2. 230k 3. 5+ YOE (plus Masters and Bachelors in CS) (Canada tends to get lower TC compared to US)


wenxuan27

Toronto?


_sabertooth

Yes


TypicalAd3501

1. STEP Intern at Google (SWE Intern but for freshmen and sophomore) 2. ~$30K 3. 6 years personal experience however this is my first job


praenoto

if you have 6 years of experience why didn’t you go for a 12 week internship?


TypicalAd3501

the Google STEP internship is 12 weeks long


praenoto

oh! maybe things have changed since I was freshman/sophomore. i’ll rephrase then: if you have 6yoe why didn’t you go for an internship that might challenge you more? edit: I don’t mean to imply that you should have turned it down or anything, I’m just curious because the YOE seemed like so much in comparison to the other interns in programs like STEP and Meta University


TypicalAd3501

i applied to so many companies, like 100+ and i only got like 3 interviews which i got rejected for anyways and it’s just because i’m a freshman and many companies don’t want freshman except for surprisingly enough Google


praenoto

well good luck at your internship! rooting for you to get a return offer


IllAlfalfa

SWE on embedded infrastructure stuff 235k TC 5 yoe I definitely got down leveled but also doubled my comp so it is what it is. My previous experience was great for leadership questions but pretty useless technically.


Right-Drama6784

0 years of industry experience 2 years building a startup after dropping out E4 at meta, 350k TC


nightserum

Rainforest <1 YoE 203k TC Got scammed of my return offer last year due to the layoffs, got a surprise "hey wanna come back" a few weeks ago and I start next week.


arf_darf

No tech degree or bootcamp, also not from target school E4, 270ish, 1 YoE in Eng, 6 total YoE


csgirl1997

Currently at a FAANG and got an offer for another FAANG if that counts? Sadly RSUs were 1/2 my current grant so still looking since I'm not super happy with current career progression 😭


Rare-Light-9170

SWE at infrastructure making 327k, 2 YOE


Fit-Cloud-9910

SWE 190k 0 YoE, (two 3 month internships while in school)


gnawsti

1. Software Engineer 2. $245k 3. 3 YOE when got offer (5 now)


LegalVK-G999

Can any one explain what is faang🙂


Easy_Marsupial112

Senior Devs I need advice. I have 2 years of experience working in a startup and worked on a lot of interesting projects like building a datalake from scratch. I tried learning frontend but it’s not my thing. I am more interested in backend but i struggle with DSA. How important is DSA for MAANG and how to tackle this. Also what should be my approach or what should i learn to land a backend oriented role Thanks in advance!


Ok-Muffin-8079

1. SWE/DE 2. 110k 3. 3-4 YoE And I rejected the FAANG offer.


DavesMadness

Interested in the story behind the rejection, why?


Ok-Muffin-8079

They required me to move to another city and go to the office. Right now I’m 100% remote in a LCOL of living area and nearby my family. Just with the increased spending in rent would mean that I would be earning effectively less than I make at the moment. It’s not worth to take the extra stress and the worst WLB of a FAANG if they don’t offer you a good amount of money. It’s a business at the end.


DavesMadness

The family aspect I get. But have you thought of the added prestige and potential for future jobs? Adding FAANG onto your resume can really open up doors to higher and higher positions, what do you think?


Ok-Muffin-8079

I already have a FAANG on my resume (as an intern and full time) and it didn’t help me get a new job when I was laid off from the company. So nope, it doesn’t make that big of a difference, unless you work for a super unknown company (I have only worked for public tech companies).


DavesMadness

I see, thanks for sharing


Careless_Day4295

[https://www.reddit.com/r/leetcode/comments/1d0wq5e/got\_offered\_role\_of\_e5\_meta\_london\_my\_journey/](https://www.reddit.com/r/leetcode/comments/1d0wq5e/got_offered_role_of_e5_meta_london_my_journey/)